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Next year IVs

Panserborn

Howye

Just wondering who (if anyone!) is thinking of shooting compound next year? Been shooting with one for a couple of months now and considering giving it a whirl in competition for a season.

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doogle deegan

Harry Lyster probly will be. He has been shooting it for a few years now and is going to one of the colleges next year (dit?)

Panserborn

Cool, the more we get to turn to the dark side the more interesting it becomes!

While on the subject (well, kinda..........), I've noticed these days that when I draw the compound it creaks a bit. It used to always creak a bit for the first 2 draws but now the creaking is lasting longer. I assume its the cams needing oiling but the manual specifically states to use only Hoyt lubrication oil on it - not easy to find! Is this just a marketing ploy (ie, can I use regular stuff) or should I really go the extra mile and dig on the www for Hoyt stuff?

doogle deegan

Panserborn wrote:

states to use only Hoyt lubrication oil on it - not easy to find! Is this just a marketing ploy (ie, can I use regular stuff) or should I really go the extra mile and dig on the www for Hoyt stuff?

My guessing is that it is probably a marketing ploy and that a bit of silicon spay or other lube will do the job.

doogle deegan

''How often should I lubricate my wheels/cams?
A light, spot lubrication of the axles where they pass through the wheel/cam should be done on a regular basis (1,500-2,000 shots). In adverse hunting conditions where dirt, dust, and moisture are encountered, lubrication may be done on a daily basis. Hoyt recommends that you use a silicone or Teflon based lubrication or any other quality grease available at your local Hoyt Pro Shop. It is not recommended that you use "penetrating oils" such as WD-40, EZ #7, Fast Break, etc.

Note: Cam & 1/2 System bows feature sealed stainless steel ball bearings which do not require lubrication.''

This is from Hoyts website

Panserborn

Cool, thanks for the info. Regular stuff should be fine then.

Renegade_Archer

Last time I heard a compound that creaked when you drew it was a CarboFast TenStar that was developing a crack in the middle :eek:

Panserborn

Eep!

On the limbs? Going to have to check that!

baggins

quick ewan, a chance to badmouth carbofast, go go go!!!!

Scráib

If I can ever make it to a club that can show me how to maintain my compound I'll be shooting it next year hopefully:)

The arrow points what way again?

doogle deegan

I have been coaxed to the dark side so i will be shooting compound next year in IVs. I have just been offered a place in UL.

Renegade_Archer

Congrats on a fine choice of university

Apart from my odd dabbling UL has not had a compound shooter before, so you will be a welcome addition - email archery@skynet.ie with any questions about the club.

Ewan

Panserborn

doogle deegan wrote:

I have been coaxed to the dark side so i will be shooting compound next year in IVs.

The dark side grows stronger! Lets see how many more we can lure in ............

Aryzel

remember only 1 compound score can be counted in your team score at an IV. Unless ye want to change the rules, if ye do, try to do it before the season starts.

And remember the reason to limit compounds to just 1, is to prevent the league turning into a Compound league instead of recurve. As a team of 5 compounds will beat 5 recuves, given the same skill of archers. And compounds do be expensive for a college club to kit their members in.

Panserborn

Aryzel wrote:

And remember the reason to limit compounds to just 1, is to prevent the league turning into a Compound league instead of recurve. As a team of 5 compounds will beat 5 recuves, given the same skill of archers. And compounds do be expensive for a college club to kit their members in.

Agreed, only one compound score should be used for the team score per college. However, we might want to rethink the "award scores" (400, 450, 500, 550 etc) for compound. 550 for a recurve is a monumental score to get. For a compound, its a great score but very achieveable on a good day - not as monumental as getting it with recurve.

How would people feel about up'ing the compound scores by 20 points or so? As in, 420, 470, 520 and 570?

Just an idea .............

toxof

Actually its easier to get really high scores with a recurve. This is because of the inner ten rule.

The irish record for compound is only 572 while recurve is 589.

You will be lucky to see any one this year getting a 570 or even a 550 on compound.

Aryzel

I'd say leave the awards as they are, at least until it becomes and issue, atm there are very few compound archers.

Noel, the record might be higher on recurve but you forgot to account for the proportion of archers that do recuve 'vs' compound.

A better way to describe it, would be that if you had two teams, one that always used compounds, and one with recurves, over long enough time period to remove bias in terms of individual skill or training, the compounds will produce higher average scores than recurves. (If compounds gave absolutely no advantage they wouldn't exist)

baggins

Ah, good old nerdy bickering.
Just to muddy the waters a bit further, will there be beginner's compounds?
Probably purely an academic question, but it may arise

Renegade_Archer

Anyone who needs a 60cm face with a compound probably shouldn't be in college in the first place....

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