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Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »Being sponsored by Denis O'Brien is a huge help id imagine.
Why should Peter have so many invites you asked? Well he shouldn't but he does for this year at least. That well will run dry anyway, he's no John Daly
Category 20 this year would have got him into less than a handful of events. Even if he doesn't win his card back this year he will have done enough for Category 17 next year which is what Kevin Phelan is currently in.
I was wondering who sponsored him!
Probably fair enough criticism that he seems to get more than his fair share of invites for this year, but it can't last.
I'll admit that my support for him is mainly based on sentimentality.0 -
I was wondering who sponsored him!
Probably fair enough criticism that he seems to get more than his fair share of invites for this year, but it can't last.
I'll admit that my support for him is mainly based on sentimentality.
Well it's PGA Catalunya but we know who the proprietor is 0 -
Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »Being sponsored by Denis O'Brien is a huge help id imagine.
Why should Peter have so many invites you asked? Well he shouldn't but he does for this year at least. That well will run dry anyway, he's no John Daly
Category 20 this year would have got him into less than a handful of events. Even if he doesn't win his card back this year he will have done enough for Category 17 next year which is what Kevin Phelan is currently in.
He's being rewarded (a little excessively imo) for his efforts on the Players Committee and maybe for just being an all round decent guy (involved with Special Olympics golf too).
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/golf/peter-lawrie-makes-most-of-ogrady-invitation-332226.html
Dinny isn't a bad person to know but I think it's a bit much to give him credit for the amount of starts.0 -
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Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »Well it's PGA Catalunya but we know who the proprietor is
The more I find out the less I like these invites.0 -
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FixdePitchmark wrote: »Don't know about "earned" , just questioning it.
I follow many sports and there is little or no room for sentimentality.
Maybe this is a good thing, as let us be honest, golf is different in almost every way.
But - I was thinking , how do guys who are trying out say for 10 years, almost there, feel about these invites ? There is no one waving flags for them.
Is Euro Tour so weak, it has to make up invites of yesteryear.
Maybe I'm being too harsh - but that is the victory and defeat of sport.
Peter lost his card , he lost his card in one of the most bizarre and honest ways - "this strange coke thing".
But, you lose your card you lose your card. Is that not the way most sport and golf is supposed to be ?
I think you're the sentimental one
The lad in your example has successfully failed to prove his ability for ten year. Someone like Lawrie has proven his ability to be able to compete for an extended period and a loss of card is a blip, or not, but he's much more likely to add some quality to a field.0 -
I think you're the sentimental one
The lad in your example has successfully failed to prove his ability for ten year. Someone like Lawrie has proven his ability to be able to compete for an extended period and a loss of card is a blip, or not, but he's much more likely to add some quality to a field.
Maybe - but I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
I think , you shouldn't be in a professional sporting event unless you qualify.
I guess not that important what I think - as he has the "friends".0 -
FixdePitchmark wrote: »Maybe - but I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
I think , you shouldn't be in a professional sporting event unless you qualify.
I guess not that important what I think - as he has the "friends".
I would agree that it would be ideal that everyone got a fair chance. But it's far from an ideal world.
As long as you have people in sport you'll have friends, preferences etc.... The lad from the wrong province in Rugby, the wrong parish in GAA, the lad that won't dope in cycling, the golfer who has putt in a fair bit of work behind the scenes assisting others and "earning" friends. 0 -
I would agree that it would be ideal that everyone got a fair chance. But it's far from an ideal world.
As long as you have people in sport you'll have friends, preferences etc.... The lad from the wrong province in Rugby, the wrong parish in GAA, the lad that won't dope in cycling, the golfer who has putt in a fair bit of work behind the scenes assisting others and "earning" friends.
Fine - it doesn't make it right.
At top level, if a guy is not good enough , he is found out.
BTW - you don't need last word , there was a guy on here like that once.0 -
FixdePitchmark wrote: »Fine - it doesn't make it right.
At top level, if a guy is not good enough , he is found out.
BTW - you don't need last word , there was a guy on here like that once.
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Yip, it's actually 6m in career earnings vs Murphy's 2m.
I don't think the (packing it in) point is too far away but at the same time he hasn't exactly disgraced himself this year. He has given himself plenty of chances (with good Thursdays & Fridays) and shown enough form to give a little hope... and show me a golfer who doesn't grab onto that little bit of hope.
Scraping by a card would be considered a huge success imo. He has hinted/said in interviews that the game (power, distance) has almost passed him out. So it's all relative, he's not searching for some return to form that will magically change things, he's looking to play very good golf that will just about keep him at that level.
He has only been a half decent weekend or two away from securing that card. So, if he misses out on a card this year, I think he could easily justify giving it another year at least. (I can't see the same level of invites being extended and that wouldn't be fair on others imo.)
I can only imagine it's quite hard to even consider throwing in the towel when the prospect of 4 good days could possibly add another half million or so to the bank account. I would say it would be daft to even consider packing it in just yet, even if he was only looking at 10 or so starts next year. (Assuming he doesn't earn a card this year)
early post
You are now saying invites wouldn't be fair on others if it was next year. You can't have it every way.
My position is - it is a joke. Not good for the sport , or for Peter himself to be honest.
It is the top level of our sport - should be no invites at all, just because you know someone.
Surprised you would defend it PARlance - can see why they can't win All Irelands out west now.0 -
FixdePitchmark wrote: »early post
You are now saying invites wouldn't be fair on others if it was next year. You can't have it every way.
My position is - it is a joke. Not good for the sport , or for Peter himself to be honest.
It is the top level of our sport - should be no invites at all, just because you know someone.
Surprised you would defend it PARlance - can see why they can't win All Irelands out west now.
It's only a page back but I'll quote it for you Fix, see last sentence.
uote="PARlance;96103561"]I think he has earned his invites for this year, 20 odd years a pro and work done on the players committee etc. I wouldn't begrudge him this year at all. There is a mechanism outside of invites that allow "the next best/in line" to get starts (however I would say from my limited knowledge that invites seem to eat into this more than they should).
But I also think that a year is enough at the current level of invites. Another year of the same would be.... a bit Irish.[/quote]
I've never said it's fair, sport isn't fair, life isn't fair.
Off topic, but since you brought it up. It's a bit rich for a Dub to talk about parity or fairness in sport and then bring GAA into the equation. A county that has taken the national stadium over and somehow considers it their home, a county with double the population of Connaught let alone any of it's counties. A county that in reality has completely underperformed given it's population.
Maybe us guys in the West don't have the same notions about some idealistic world because we know only too well that things are rarely fair. Maybe that's why we (and the rest of the country) had a smile when we took over "your" hill, watched you throw the toys out of the pram, and then handed you a nice beating
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It's only a page back but I'll quote it for you Fix, see last sentence.
uote="PARlance;96103561"]I think he has earned his invites for this year, 20 odd years a pro and work done on the players committee etc. I wouldn't begrudge him this year at all. There is a mechanism outside of invites that allow "the next best/in line" to get starts (however I would say from my limited knowledge that invites seem to eat into this more than they should).
But I also think that a year is enough at the current level of invites. Another year of the same would be.... a bit Irish.
I've never said it's fair, sport isn't fair, life isn't fair.
Off topic, but since you brought it up. It's a bit rich for a Dub to talk about parity or fairness in sport and then bring GAA into the equation. A county that has taken the national stadium over and somehow considers it their home, a county with double the population of Connaught let alone any of it's counties. A county that in reality has completely underperformed given it's population.
Maybe us guys in the West don't have the same notions about some idealistic world because we know only too well that things are rarely fair. Maybe that's why we (and the rest of the country) had a smile when we took over "your" hill, watched you throw the toys out of the pram, and then handed you a nice beating[/quote]
......Let the kitten have its milk fix 😜0 -
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Only a bit of needle Dealerz... and you Dubs seem to like them
So that is fine - you are basically saying it is wrong. I'm happy with that acknowledgment.
Whilst nothing is perfect in life. Sport does provide the chance for anyone to take on anyone. It is a basic ideal of sport.
It is why you have people from different races and backgrounds (whilest rare, even from the west) competing at The World Cup , The Olympics etc.
In the majority of sports - it is in fact a meritocracy. Look at Kerry in football, Kilkeny in Hurling, very small populations.
Anyway - end of the road. It is totally wrong - not sport in my eyes.
Did someone mention Denis O'Brien - it gets worse.
Nothing against Peter - In fact , I'm a big fan of the Tricolour up there. But I can't let unfairness in sport go.
It just shouldn't be part of the sport (IMO thankfully). 0
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