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Make SUSI accountable

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    #2
    Fatboydim
    Registered Users Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭Fatboydim


    Letter sent.


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    AlexDublin
    Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭AlexDublin


    This is great!!!


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    #4
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Someone was asking me by PM about how to go about contacting them

    Here's a suggested letter - which I would reccomend that you add to or change or amend

    PLEASE CHANGE THIS AROUND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. TDs TAKE MORE NOTICE OF NON STANDARDISED EMAILS LETTERS
    To:

    Dear all

    I am Contacting you as members of the Oireachtas committee on education and social protection. I understand that representatives of City of Dublin VEC/Student Universal Support Ireland (SUSI) will be before the committee on Tueday 13th November

    Like many other students I have experienced many delays in the system (insert personal information about what happened between you and SUSI)

    This has caused me a great deal of stress/anxiousness etc (insert personal story)

    I would like that you as TDs/Senators do the following

    1; Make sure SUSI know how much stress (financial, personal, educational) their systems are causing
    2; Ask SUSI what plans they have to work through the back log
    3; Ask SUSI why so many students documents are being lost in the system (as reported anecdotally on boards.ie)
    3; AsK that SUSI have operational plans for improvement in this years processing of grants and also a vastly improved plan for next year

    I look forward to your response


    Yours Sincerely

    Mango salsa

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It seems but hasn't been confirmed that SUSI is not covered by the ombudsman.

    If this is true then this is a very very very serious problem.

    I would suggest people sending emails to include this in their emails and letters.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    ditzyfairy
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭ditzyfairy


    email sent, i basically wrote about my own experience and how so many people were being forced out of college because of the delays. I sent it to my local TD and stated that I was in their constituency so i better get a response


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    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    ditzyfairy wrote: »
    email sent, i basically wrote about my own experience and how so many people were being forced out of college because of the delays. I sent it to my local TD and stated that I was in their constituency so i better get a response

    The committee members need to get as many of these as possible before Tuesday. An email to your local TD is useful but it's more infulential if it goes to all of the committee members. I would suggest (but's it's up to you) forwarding the email that you sent your local TD to all of the committee members.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    ditzyfairy
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭ditzyfairy


    mango salsa wrote: »
    The committee members need to get as many of these as possible before Tuesday. An email to your local TD is useful but it's more infulential if it goes to all of the committee members. I would suggest (but's it's up to you) forwarding the email that you sent your local TD to all of the committee members.

    Ah the TD is a member of the committee, I might forward it on to the rest of them though


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    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    ditzyfairy wrote: »
    Ah the TD is a member of the committee, I might forward it on to the rest of them though

    That would be a good idea

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #10
    bluesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭bluesea


    I have send off an email to the above list of people to express my fustration with several recommendation for next year and I asked some serious questions about the operation of this year's process.


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    #11
    AL93
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭AL93


    I sent an email earlier today and i just got a reply from one of them saying that my points will be noted at the meeting :)


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    donalfo
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭donalfo


    I did send an e-mail to Ruari Quinn and just got a bog-standard auto response. Cheers Mango Salsa, I feel now that I have a chance to vent my anger and frustration and hopefully some of this mess can get sorted. It's going to be a long letter with all of the problems I (like so many others) have had and still have with this shambles. Thanks again OP.


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    Rickwellwood
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭Rickwellwood


    email sent


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    Dietsquirt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Dietsquirt


    Email sent


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    donalfo
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭donalfo


    Long e-mail sent, phew i'm wrecked now. Nice to get that rant out of my system, hopefully I get more than a auto-response.


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    AlexDublin
    Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭AlexDublin


    Strongly worded email sent. VERY long!

    Was good to get it all out. LOL


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    Deirdre5
    Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭Deirdre5


    Sent off an email yesterday and have so far received a response from my local TD saying all my points will be raised at the meeting. :) Hopefully this will be a positive step forward.


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    bluesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭bluesea


    I have heard back from one of the members who happens to be my local TD, he has promised to raise all my points and recommendations for the future.


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    rjudge1994
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭rjudge1994


    email sent :)


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    Maggie 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭Maggie 2


    e-mails sent and 3 replies received! All will raise our concerns on Tuesday. Fingers crossed!


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    #21
    Rickwellwood
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭Rickwellwood


    emails sent to all contacts and three replies - very encouraging replies also in fairness so hopefully these SUSI people now will get a proper grilling on Tuesday morning


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    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Out of interest which TDs/Senators have replied?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #23
    Fatboydim
    Registered Users Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭Fatboydim


    I have had replies from Willie O'Dea, Senator Fidelma Healy Eames, Brendan Griffin and Charlie McConalogue so far.


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    Maggie 2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭Maggie 2


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Out of interest which TDs/Senators have replied?
    Senator Fidelma Healy Eames, Brendan Griffin and Charlie McConalogue


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    #25
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Brilliant guys

    I think this is great. Anyone who hasn't done so - still time time to send an email tonight and tomorrow.

    You will also be able to watch the committee meeting live on Tuesday.

    http://www.oireachtas.ie/ViewDoc.asp?fn=/documents/livewebcast/Web-Live.htm&CatID=83&m=o

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #26
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    At the moment it is scheduled for 11:30am on Tuesday morning in Committee Room 3

    http://www.oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=22111&&CatID=60

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #27
    BrianDug
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭BrianDug


    email sent


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    #28
    Nicole.
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭Nicole.


    I've got a reply from Charlie McConalogue and Brendan Griffin which I think is great considering that I only sent the email around 5pm today.


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    #29
    bluesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭bluesea


    Charlie McConagolue has been very proactive on this issue, at least someone is trying to do something about the mess. I was astonishd to hear the figures of those applications yet to be checked.



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    #30
    GismoBaby
    Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭GismoBaby


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Out of interest which TDs/Senators have replied?

    Email sent at 9.30 last night. Charlie McConalogue replied at 10.20 - not an auto response either. Very impressed with his reply hopefully something will come of it now! No response from anyone else so far!


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    #31
    head_honcho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭head_honcho


    Email sent! thanks to mango salsa for this.


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