Originally Posted by elvis99
Why such opposition to Occupy? But when it comes to those who lead us they still get away with murder, its like we complain about those who seek change.
And i'm not referring to Fianna fail or Fine Gael uniquely i'm talking about all our political leaders. Our health minister purchases €300 coffee machines with taxpayers money, Sinn fein claiming expenses for enough ink cartridges to print 3.2million sheets of A4 paper, they are robbing taxpayers blind but yet we give out about those on social welfare being scabs.
And thats what they want the middle class giving out about the lower classes.
In my experience they don't want people thinking about the situation, just doing what they want you to do. Try to talk to them having actual figures and sources and they just get sullen or argumentative - because you aren't buying their line - and god help you if you have an opinion on anything that doesn't match theirs.
A lot of the things they promote are of dubious legality (the freeman rubbish) or morality (refusing to pay your own legally accrued debts, the jailing of people who haven't been found guilty breaking laws & trial by media).
From a practical side some of the things they have suggested - unilateral wage cuts for people they don't like. Allowing wage contracts to be broken for anyone creates a precedent that puts everyones wage contract in jeopardy - which i.m.o. is the real reason why CPA is so contentious for the likes of siptu who have public & private sector members.
They come out with facts (e.g. shell to sea) that are misunderstood/ misleading at best and just plain wrong at worst. Then claim that they didn't bring it up at all.
Their responses to inquiries about transparency of their "organisation" e.g. funding membership etc, are hypocritical at best - if they want to decry organizations such as banks or political parties for being not transparent enough they have to lead by example.
All in all they come across as a a parent telling a child "Do what I say not want I do
" or when asked why you should/shouldn't do something "Because I said so
" (god help all parents when kids figure out that one means they don't have a good reason).
Thanks we have enough legitimate political parties that aren't camping in an area not designated for camping (that has to be illegal) already doing the same.