Anti-Islamic hate crimes up 50%. Who fuels the hate?

Further backround material for anyone that may be interested.


The Dirty Dozen
Who's who among America's leading Islamophobes FAIR,

Aubrey Chernick and the nexus of Islamophobia mondoweiss.net

Why is the Donors Capital Fund funding Islamophobia? Daily Kos

The Connection Between Zionism & Organized Islamophobia – The Facts Loonwatch

Fear, Inc. The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America Center For American Progress

Center for Security Policy right web

Moskowitz, Irving Right Web

The Moskowitz Gallery of Militant Extremists StopMoskowitz

Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation Right Wing Watch

chooochooo wrote: »

It might just possibly be because Islam is a failed religion and a scourge on this planet.
There is not one Islamic country in the world that is not a fiasco and a shambles.
Even the super rich oil states are a social hell of exploitation and tyranny.
Saudi Arabia for example qualifies as possibly the most depraved unjust and demented regime ever to set up on earth.
It's a country where women are executed for being raped and young girls sold by their fathers to cement business deals. All in the name of Islamic morality while the same moral police keep foreign child sex slaves - according to their logic acceptable as the children are not muslims.
Other than oil rich oligarchies every single Islamic country is a poverty and corrupt nonsense of a society and many of them permanently teeter on the brink of disintegration.
Both the joke country Pakistan and it mouth foaming Ayatollah controlled neighbour Iran seriously threaten to turn the planet into a nuclear holocaust.
The sooner this bigoted dogma of an ideology is consigned to the dustbin of history the better for the welfare and progress of humanity.
Amen.

What you are doing is exactly what the hate peddlers are doing. Hysterics, exaggerations, half-truths, ignorance or lies and only focusing on the most ultra conservative aspects of Islam and presenting it as the whole. You also present these social problems as if they are exclusive to Islam, lying by omission. Child brides exist everywhere there is extreme poverty. Women getting executed for being raped is false. And Saudi Arabia is the most depraved and demented regime in history? Really? Worse than say the Mongols or the Aztecs who believed that all life came from the gods when they spilled their blood and their society revolves around spilling human blood in human sacrifice? More the depraved than that? Iran is threatening a nuclear holocaust when they don't even have nuclear weapons? The same NPT signatories Iran who are being threatened daily by an illegally nuclear weaponised non-Muslim state, non NPT signatories Israel?

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

I don't understand how they're making money from Islamophobia?

Well it's simple. Rich donors with an anti-Islam agenda give money foundations to push their agenda.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

I don't think terror attacks, suicide bombings and direct threats to the west by extremists helps Islams image either.

Perhaps if you could seperate "Extemists" and "Islam" and it might help.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Also, the majority of religious hate crimes in the US are against Jews

Nope. Anti-black hate crimes.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Black isn't a religion.

My mistake read your post wrong.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Are these same people funding every hate crime in America?

A stupid question, not worth answering to be fair.

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Well they need to do a better job then. They need to be on the tv 24/7 explaining why the interpretations being adopted in these countries do not represent the true teachings of Islam. If you have the extremists having free reign with no rebuttal from the moderates what are westerners to believe. Some will believe because the moderates do not object that they must agree. Ignorance is dangerous.

But the moderates very much do disagree. Repeatedly.
http://kurzman.unc.edu/islamic-statements-against-terrorism/
www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1670291,00.html
www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1670291,00.html
http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/muslim_voices_against_extremism_and_terrorism_a_few_quotes/0012273

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Yes it does. There's a larger minority within Islam that approves of terrorism and violence though.

Source?

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

As you said, anti-black crimes are the largest group of hate crimes in America. Anti-Jewish hate crimes are the largest religious hate crimes. Are people making big money off these too? And who are they?

Are you asking me is there money to be made through anti-semitism and anti-black racism? Yes, I would suppose that there is. Who are they? I would suspect they a Neo-Nazi type leaders and authors. It's irrelevant though.

What is your point anyway? Are you trying todefend people who fund anti-Islam groups who pump out anti-Islamic propoganda which has shown to be a motivation for hate crimes?

studiorat wrote: »

Keep telling yourself that...

http://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?id=191202&cid=2 .

Please try to pay attention. We were discussing Saudi Arabia. This is the actions of a Islamic terrorist organisation and no more representative of Islam than the KKK, David Koresh or Jim Jones are of the "West".

studiorat wrote: »

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/child-of+-13-stoned-to-death-in-somalia-20081031 .

This is tribal justice, not Sharia law.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Where else do you see people rioting, bombing, murdering and burning down embassies over a few cartoons?

Not a source is it? But OK, we can try and with run with that. Please give an educated guess on how many total rioters/bombers/murderers there was and then tell me what this number is as a percentage of 1.25 Billion.

And then please explain why this minscule fraction of a fraction of less than 1% is in your own words "a large minority".

a few cartoons

Why do you belittle something that is so sacred to Muslims? Instead why don't you try to understand why they find it so deeply offensive?

Would you call them a "few cartoons" if they were anti-semitic holocaust cartoons?

The Jylland Posten refused to publish "a few" anti-semitic cartoons. (Danish)

Don't you find that hypocritical?

It is convenient that you have brought up that cartoons as the editor who was behind the publishing of the cartoons Flemming Rose,

So, let’s look at the guy who started this whole cartoon escapade. He’s Flemming Rose, the cultural editor of the Danish newspaper. In all of the Lexis-Nexis database of stories from the American media on the Mohammed cartoons, there is absolutely no mention of the fact that Rose is a close confederate of arch-Islamophobe Daniel Pipes. Indeed, there is almost no context at all about Rose’s newspaper. On a brief mention in the Washington Post gave a hint at a fact desperately needed to understand the situation. The Post described the affair as “a calculated insult … by a right-wing newspaper in a country where bigotry toward the minority Muslim population is a major, if frequently unacknowledged, problem.”

How bad is Pipes? He wants the utter military obliteration of the Palestinians; indeed, from the Muslim world, his racism is about as blatant as that of the Holocaust denying Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Pipes’ frequent outbursts of racism — designed to toss gasoline on the neo-cons’ lust for a wholesale conflict of cultures — earned him a Bush nomination to the U.S. Institute of Peace, a congressionally funded think tank. Rose came to America to commune with Pipes in 2004, and it was after that meeting the cartoon gambit materialized.
COUNTERPUNCH

If you had read the links in the OP Daniel Pipes' name should be familiar to you. He is one of the heavily funded anti-Islamic hate peddlers.

Daniel Pipes was cited 18 times by Anders Breivik in his manifesto. He was evidently an inspiration for the mass-murderer. Here in an internet post he shares a video of Daniel Pipes and adds:.

Daniel Pipes: Leftism and Islam. Muslims, the warriors Marxists Have Been praying for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO6RgVo8Hd8&feature=player_embedded
The following summarizes the agenda of many kulturmarxister with Islam and it explains also why the death and life to protect them. It explains thus why we, the cultural conservatives are against Islamization and the implementation of these agendas.

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5602461]No. I'm trying to see if there's any merit to your claims, and I don't think the media as a whole are actively trying to encourage Islamophobia for money or Israel.[/QUOTE]
Then please read the links in the OP. There can be little doubt, they are not "CT sites" they are academic studies.

Or if you want to take the lazy way out I suggest you read the resignation letter of Daily Star jounalist Richard Peppiat who quit because he was continually coerced into writing false Islamophobic stories.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/mar/04/daily-star-reporter-letter-full

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

I said a larger minority, not large.

Larger than what then? Everything? Do you think that Islam is uniquely violent?

And you do then agree that is not a "large minority" but a minsicule, fraction of one percent minority and therefore it is totally unjust to base any kind of general opinion on this tiny minority?

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

And from what I can see, there seems to be alot more threat from caricaturing Islam than any other religion.

Well let's get it straight, the issue is not caricaturing Islam but depicting the image of Muhammed when idoloatry is their greatest sin.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

I don't think religion should be above satire.

Agreed. However, I don't see the wit in a cartoon of Muhammed with a bomb in his Turban.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

The star journalists letter is interesting. And it is fair to say that some of the British rags are anti-Islam, as well as anti foreign in general. But if you look at other British media, like the BBC or the guardian, you don't see them pushing Islamophobia.

Ostensibly no, but on the other hand look at the incredible amount of coverage they give to Anjem Choudary, a man who's views are not representative of British Muslims at all. Or they consider "news" 5 blokes with a website across the Atlantic speaking out against the creators of South Park vs the actual positive news story of the total transformation of the infamous Finsbury Park Mosque.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Anyway, my ranting aside, if we're looking at who benefits, who do you think is benefiting at the top? The people you say are paying to have anti-Islam stuff pushed, how do they benefit, or whats their agenda?

I must make this clear. It's not me saying that they are paying to have their anti-Islam agenda pushed it has been established.

As for who benefits from Muslims being demonised in the Western world, I would be with Ed on this. I see the war on terror as a war on Muslims. It creates a situation of "us" and "them", a clash of civilisations. Also it benefits Israel's colonialist expansion and wars of aggression as it paints the false image that israel is surrounded by bloodthirsty savages and poor Israel must recieve the billions in military aid to prevent another holocaust. I don't think it can be a coincidence that the same people financing the pro Islamophobes are also financing illegal Israeli settlements on stolen Palestinian land.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Humour is a matter of taste, not saying I personally find it funny, but surely you must think the the reactions to the cartoons was a massive overreaction?

It depends what reaction you mean? The vast majority reaction of Muslims, nothing, so not relevant. Of the minority that peacefully protested, did they overreact? No. Of the minority within the minority that carried out violence? Yes.