electric showers

mickbookle · 25-05-2011 4:00pm

Fitted a T90xr last year and have only used it a few times, so don't think the problem is lime. The pressure is very low on it (you'd spit harder!), the Triton replaced a Gainsborough which had no pressure problems. Any ideas?
Thanks

The Shower Doctors · 27-05-2011 1:23pm

mickbookle wrote: »

Fitted a T90xr last year and have only used it a few times, so don't think the problem is lime. The pressure is very low on it (you'd spit harder!), the Triton replaced a Gainsborough which had no pressure problems. Any ideas?
Thanks

Check the filter at the inlet.It might be blocked.
cheers
Steve

MugMugs · 16-08-2011 8:14pm

Well folks. Currently have a t90xr in my en suite. I rent out a room in the house and the bathroom has a mix shower fed from the bath. Was thinking of putting another t90xr in but was looking at this thread and am a bit worried about that now. Why do I have to install an isolater for the showers if I put in a second electric? How expensive a job is it? I am dubious about a power shower as 6 to 7 months of the year its not cold enough to justify putting the heating on so there is rarely hot water during the summer and spring months.

Joey the lips · 17-08-2011 8:19pm

MugMugs wrote: »

Well folks. Currently have a t90xr in my en suite. I rent out a room in the house and the bathroom has a mix shower fed from the bath. Was thinking of putting another t90xr in but was looking at this thread and am a bit worried about that now. Why do I have to install an isolater for the showers if I put in a second electric? How expensive a job is it? I am dubious about a power shower as 6 to 7 months of the year its not cold enough to justify putting the heating on so there is rarely hot water during the summer and spring months.

You need to put an isolator or priority switch because the 2 elecric showers if on together draw too much current. If your mains pressure is strong enough another option my be an electric shower. ie t80.

glicster · 29-09-2011 8:17pm

hope someones still reading this thread???

ive got an elite2 and its starting to make a funny sound when running and the water aint getting so hot.
its about 5yrs old.

i would describe the normal sound as a low pitched whirring but now i would describe it as a high pitched whirring.
i clean the filter and shower head regulary.

inside the unit it looks like black powder everywhere from what i presume would be the brushes??
could this be my problem,worn brushes?
thanks in advance

The Shower Doctors · 30-09-2011 9:53am

Hi there
I would suspect the bearings in the pump from what you have described.You are correct in assuming the black powder is from the brushes in the motor, however these are not available seperately as a spare part.
Cheers
Steve

glicster wrote: »

hope someones still reading this thread???

ive got an elite2 and its starting to make a funny sound when running and the water aint getting so hot.
its about 5yrs old.

i would describe the normal sound as a low pitched whirring but now i would describe it as a high pitched whirring.
i clean the filter and shower head regulary.

inside the unit it looks like black powder everywhere from what i presume would be the brushes??
could this be my problem,worn brushes?
thanks in advance

glicster · 30-09-2011 4:59pm

thanks for the reply Steve but ive a couple of more q's if you dont mind,

if the bearings were gone would this explane the drop in temperature(luke warm now),and the pressure is fine unless i turn it to max when it drops right off
and suppose if they are gone its a new pump right?

so what would be the better option cost wise,have someone to come look and repair or a whole new unit?
thanks
Shane

Joey the lips · 30-09-2011 8:14pm

For my money i am betting on the motor brushes. If it is them you may pick up some from an electrical providers but as said they are not generally a spare.

If it is the bearings in the pump or to be honest anything pump related it would be cheaper to replace the whole shower.

The Shower Doctors · 03-10-2011 11:48am

glicster wrote: »

thanks for the reply Steve but ive a couple of more q's if you dont mind,

if the bearings were gone would this explane the drop in temperature(luke warm now),and the pressure is fine unless i turn it to max when it drops right off
and suppose if they are gone its a new pump right?

so what would be the better option cost wise,have someone to come look and repair or a whole new unit?
thanks
Shane

Hi again
Motor bearings will have nothing to do with the temperature.This is purely to do with the noise of the unit. If the brushes were going in the motor and the pump was not turning full speed, this could have an effect on the temperature. If however ther is just a restriction in the line or the hose or the head this also could give the same symtoms.
I would suggest you get someone to look at the shower.
You certainly could save yourself half the cost of a replacement unit.
Regards
Steve

ruthiepie · 17-10-2011 12:05pm

Hi Guys, hoping someone can give me some bit of advice.... I have a Triton T80xr in my ensuite and about a week ago it stopped heating the water. Had someone out to look at it and he changed the stat and the element.
Went home that night and straight away could see, it is heating but the temperature is boiling and even though im turning down the temp on the front, its still boiling. Turned it onto the coldest settings and that one just gives cold water so im getting either boiling or cold water. Before I get back someone back out, any ideas on it so.
Also dont know if this is connected but the power switch when its on the light is obviously on and when its off there is no light. Now when I turn it off its still lighting... Dunno if its connected but said id say it just in case! So any help would be great, so i can get back onto your man and know what im talking about.

Thanks all

The Shower Doctors · 17-10-2011 12:57pm

Hi there
The T80 is a Mains fed shower, ie. fed from the same supply as your cold water tap at the kitchen sink. If the shower is too hot there is not enough water flowing through it.
In this instance i would suspect poor water pressure at the shower.When you are turning the temperature up you are actually reducing the water going through the shower, but if there is insufficent pressure to force the water through the shower in the first place it is going to be hot at any setting. There also may be a blockage somewhere which would give the same symthom but in these instances it is usually pressure.
Please note without actually looking at the shower we can only guess the most likely cause of the problem.
Cheers
Steve

Joey the lips · 17-10-2011 1:10pm

ruthiepie wrote: »

Hi Guys, hoping someone can give me some bit of advice.... I have a Triton T80xr in my ensuite and about a week ago it stopped heating the water. Had someone out to look at it and he changed the stat and the element.
Went home that night and straight away could see, it is heating but the temperature is boiling and even though im turning down the temp on the front, its still boiling. Turned it onto the coldest settings and that one just gives cold water so im getting either boiling or cold water. Before I get back someone back out, any ideas on it so.
Also dont know if this is connected but the power switch when its on the light is obviously on and when its off there is no light. Now when I turn it off its still lighting... Dunno if its connected but said id say it just in case! So any help would be great, so i can get back onto your man and know what im talking about.

Thanks all

Can you take a picture of the shower and the switch that now stays on.

ruthiepie · 17-10-2011 1:56pm

Joey the lips wrote: »

Can you take a picture of the shower and the switch that now stays on.

At work at the moment so best i can do is get pic from internet...

hope that upload works??? anyway when its the orange light obviously is on but when i turn it off its still lighting... not as bright if that makes any sense but still lighting... I'm just wondering would something have been done when he was putting in the parts and all this is connected?

The Shower Doctors wrote: »

Hi there
The T80 is a Mains fed shower, ie. fed from the same supply as your cold water tap at the kitchen sink. If the shower is too hot there is not enough water flowing through it.
In this instance i would suspect poor water pressure at the shower.When you are turning the temperature up you are actually reducing the water going through the shower, but if there is insufficent pressure to force the water through the shower in the first place it is going to be hot at any setting. There also may be a blockage somewhere which would give the same symthom but in these instances it is usually pressure.
Please note without actually looking at the shower we can only guess the most likely cause of the problem.
Cheers
Steve

Thanks, is there anyway to check to shower to see if its low pressure? shower has a low pressure light on it but thats not coming on??

Thanks again for all the info, im pretty clueless when it comes to showers and I know I will have to prob get someone out again but at least if I know what I'm talking about thats half the battle!

Joey the lips · 17-10-2011 3:24pm

Your switch problem has no bearing on your shower but i suggest you ask over in the electrical forum why the light is still on.

This should not be the case.

meercat · 19-10-2011 7:59pm

Joey the lips wrote: »

Your switch problem has no bearing on your shower but i suggest you ask over in the electrical forum why the light is still on.

This should not be the case.

agree
think you may have a faulty isolating switch
no harm to get it replaced
make sure connections are really tight

iain2008 · 06-12-2011 9:58pm

I have a mira vie shower and its either roasting hot or freezing cold. Does anyone know whats wrong with it or do i need a new shower?

Joey the lips · 07-12-2011 1:18pm

iain2008 wrote: »

I have a mira vie shower and its either roasting hot or freezing cold. Does anyone know whats wrong with it or do i need a new shower?

Its a mains fed shower so it points to a problem with your mains pressure. You will need to get a plumber to confirm this and if so you will need to change it to take a single impeller pump to boost the shower.

captainsparo · 08-12-2011 5:13pm

Hi guys, iv a triton shower and looks like the pump is gone. I have a 2nd hand shower to replace it with, would it be advisable to replace the pump or should i replace the shower? Really just interested in knowing is it an easier job to replace the pump as iv changed a shower before and dont like messing with the plumbing connections.

Joey the lips · 08-12-2011 5:29pm

captainsparo wrote: »

Hi guys, iv a triton shower and looks like the pump is gone. I have a 2nd hand shower to replace it with, would it be advisable to replace the pump or should i replace the shower? Really just interested in knowing is it an easier job to replace the pump as iv changed a shower before and dont like messing with the plumbing connections.

Changing a pump i would be more concerned with the electrical aspects. If the pump is there it is worth replacing by someone qualified. Outside that...Get a new shower.

robjones1981 · 03-01-2012 4:06am

Hi Guys - got a new shower and water pump installed less than a year ago - all had been fine until a day or two ago

The pump now cuts out after 20 seconds or so after the shower is turned on

The pump is still working fine for everything else - all taps in apartment, washing machine, toilet etc - its only for the shower that it cuts out

I removed the shower head and tried the shower - the water is clearly not coming out as it should be or was when it was installed first - even before the pump cuts out

This kind of suggests the problem is the shower as opposed to the pump does it?

Its Dublin city so do not think limescale is an issue

Any suggestions on what the problem is?

Joey the lips · 03-01-2012 6:31pm

robjones1981 wrote: »

Hi Guys - got a new shower and water pump installed less than a year ago - all had been fine until a day or two ago

The pump now cuts out after 20 seconds or so after the shower is turned on

The pump is still working fine for everything else - all taps in apartment, washing machine, toilet etc - its only for the shower that it cuts out

I removed the shower head and tried the shower - the water is clearly not coming out as it should be or was when it was installed first - even before the pump cuts out

This kind of suggests the problem is the shower as opposed to the pump does it?

Its Dublin city so do not think limescale is an issue

Any suggestions on what the problem is?

Is your shower an electric shower? If not your on the wrong thread and will need to start another.( Dont say well the pump is electric)

afro man · 15-01-2012 10:41pm

hi guys looking for some help have a mira elite st shower and the clamp bracket for holding shower head in broken .. anybody know were i can get a replacement

Sparkpea · 15-01-2012 10:47pm

afro man wrote: »

hi guys looking for some help have a mira elite st shower and the clamp bracket for holding shower head in broken .. anybody know were i can get a replacement

eBay is your best bet

Joey the lips · 16-01-2012 6:58pm

afro man wrote: »

hi guys looking for some help have a mira elite st shower and the clamp bracket for holding shower head in broken .. anybody know were i can get a replacement

Ring mt agencies. they are the agents for the showers. They will tell you the best place to buy parts.

afro man · 16-01-2012 11:34pm

Joey the lips wrote: »

Ring mt agencies. they are the agents for the showers. They will tell you the best place to buy parts.

cheers Joey .. just sent them off an e-mail

Joey the lips · 17-01-2012 7:15pm

afro man wrote: »

cheers Joey .. just sent them off an e-mail

Sorry i am loosing it. Its not mt agencies its actually modern plant on the naas road. Again my apologies.

afro man · 18-01-2012 11:59pm

Joey the lips wrote: »

Sorry i am loosing it. Its not mt agencies its actually modern plant on the naas road. Again my apologies.

thanks for your help but i think i have found a supplier in limerick area heat merchants will call into them at weekend.

RebelButtMunch · 23-01-2012 12:41pm

Hi

I've moved into a new/old house and the Galaxy G2000 has packed in. Grinding, humming noise and black water leaking from it. The problem is that the tiling in the shower is around the unit. So I see my options as

1. Replace with same model, no extra tiling/plumbing/wiring needed. For the summer I'd fit a timer on the immersion. But is the model good?
2. Replace with triton pumped electric shower I'd need probably tiling/electric/plumbing work done.

#1 is easier and cheaper.
#2 probably better in the long term, but Im not ready now for a bathroom re-generation project.

Any thoughts?

Joey the lips · 23-01-2012 1:21pm

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

Hi

I've moved into a new/old house and the Galaxy G2000 has packed in. Grinding, humming noise and black water leaking from it. The problem is that the tiling in the shower is around the unit. So I see my options as

1. Replace with same model, no extra tiling/plumbing/wiring needed. For the summer I'd fit a timer on the immersion. But is the model good?
2. Replace with triton pumped electric shower I'd need probably tiling/electric/plumbing work done.

#1 is easier and cheaper.
#2 probably better in the long term, but Im not ready now for a bathroom re-generation project.

Any thoughts?

The new galaxy might have a different template then the old.

At the end of the day do what your happy with but a third option would be to mount a sheet of the plastic tile wall onto the tiles then mount the shower on that. Or just try match the tiles. The shower is grand so It all depends on you.

sparkfireman · 23-01-2012 1:51pm

afro man wrote: »

hi guys looking for some help have a mira elite st shower and the clamp bracket for holding shower head in broken .. anybody know were i can get a replacement

Most plumbing suppliers that sell showers carry spare parts. Or can get parts fair quick for you

RebelButtMunch · 23-01-2012 3:56pm

Joey the lips wrote: »

The new galaxy might have a different template then the old.

At the end of the day do what your happy with but a third option would be to mount a sheet of the plastic tile wall onto the tiles then mount the shower on that. Or just try match the tiles. The shower is grand so It all depends on you.

Spot on, the new models have a different template. I found a place in cork that has the Galaxy1000 that seems to have the same template. I just need to figure out what the specs of the old galaxy 1000 are compared with my current galaxy2000

Joey the lips · 23-01-2012 9:20pm

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

Spot on, the new models have a different template. I found a place in cork that has the Galaxy1000 that seems to have the same template. I just need to figure out what the specs of the old galaxy 1000 are compared with my current galaxy2000

http://www.galaxy-showers.com/electric-showers.html

You might need to ring them. I cant tell from looking at it the difference and its been a while since i handled one.

Big Nelly · 30-01-2012 8:54pm

Hi Guys

I guess we post all questions about showers on here?

Anyway please delete it wrong.

Have a Triton T90xr, put it in around 4-5 years ago. Never really worked right after about 3 years but kept running it. ANyway at the moment you have to turn it right up to max to get any sort of hot water out of it and then pressure is crap. So first question is it worth trying to fix?

Second question I was looking on Triton website and it mentions the T90Z and you can direct replace the T90xr. Is this correct?

Also am I better off going for the higher kW version? the 9.5kW? from what I can remember before I was told to go with higher kW as it is better on power?

Last one, can't find a lot of places stocking the T90Z, any idea's where to buy and who has best price? Thanks guys!!

Joey the lips · 30-01-2012 9:14pm

Big Nelly wrote: »

Hi Guys

I guess we post all questions about showers on here?

Anyway please delete it wrong.

Have a Triton T90xr, put it in around 4-5 years ago. Never really worked right after about 3 years but kept running it. ANyway at the moment you have to turn it right up to max to get any sort of hot water out of it and then pressure is crap. So first question is it worth trying to fix?

Second question I was looking on Triton website and it mentions the T90Z and you can direct replace the T90xr. Is this correct?

Also am I better off going for the higher kW version? the 9.5kW? from what I can remember before I was told to go with higher kW as it is better on power?

Last one, can't find a lot of places stocking the T90Z, any idea's where to buy and who has best price? Thanks guys!!

Just clean out its internal filter. Its the likly problem.

Yes its correct on the version. Just newer models.

I would not go to a higher killowatt especially without consulting an electrician and tbh it does not make much of a difference.

Your best place for a T90 at the moment is woodies however they only do 8.5kw

paddy147 · 30-01-2012 9:54pm

Hi,can I ask what would be a good replacement for a Triton T90XR shower.My T90xr is fairly noisy and it is bugging me.

Im Looking for a quieter running shower,and also one that is effiecent,as in water usage friendly (looming water rates).

Thanks.:)

Big Nelly · 30-01-2012 10:22pm

Joey the lips wrote: »

Just clean out its internal filter. Its the likly problem.

Yes its correct on the version. Just newer models.

I would not go to a higher killowatt especially without consulting an electrician and tbh it does not make much of a difference.

Your best place for a T90 at the moment is woodies however they only do 8.5kw

Cleaned out the filter, never knew about this, nothing much in filter, small bit of black material.

There is black soot inside the unit. Just on the cover inside, around where buttons are

Still have the same problem.

Is the T90xr a 8.5kW shower? I can't remember?

Joey the lips · 31-01-2012 8:59am

paddy147 wrote: »

Hi,can I ask what would be a good replacement for a Triton T90XR shower.My T90xr is fairly noisy and it is bugging me.

Im Looking for a quieter running shower,and also one that is effiecent,as in water usage friendly (looming water rates).

Thanks.:)

There is no direct replacement pumped electric shower. Thats why they are sold so much. If you want to go quiter and efficent you will need to go power shower as it does not have to heat the water so makes it more efficient.

Big Nelly wrote: »

Cleaned out the filter, never knew about this, nothing much in filter, small bit of black material.

There is black soot inside the unit. Just on the cover inside, around where buttons are

Still have the same problem.

Is the T90xr a 8.5kW shower? I can't remember?

There is always residual soot as such but i am wondering if its the brushes. There is not much can go wrong on these units. Sometimes various capacitors etc will go but generally its just the filter or the pump. If its the pump its not worth replacing.

Have you checked the motor brushes.

Big Nelly · 31-01-2012 12:57pm

Joey the lips wrote: »

There is no direct replacement pumped electric shower. Thats why they are sold so much. If you want to go quiter and efficent you will need to go power shower as it does not have to heat the water so makes it more efficient.

There is always residual soot as such but i am wondering if its the brushes. There is not much can go wrong on these units. Sometimes various capacitors etc will go but generally its just the filter or the pump. If its the pump its not worth replacing.

Have you checked the motor brushes.

No idea what the brushes are? easy way to look at them? of course pulling power to unit first

Big Nelly · 16-02-2012 10:00pm

Hi Guys

Have decided to change the shower anyway. Is there anyway I can check my current shower to see what the power range is on it? is there a whole pile of difference? is the 8.5Kw harder on electricity?

Also anyone know, as I have Triton T90xr if I want to change to T90Z, there is a deal on slimline, if I get that one will I need to make a lot of changes to install?

Big Nelly · 17-02-2012 2:01pm

Bit of a good deal

Just bought this at Athlantic

http://www.buy4now.ie/woodiesdiy/productdetail.aspx?pid=14475&loc=P&catid=5.8

wheelie_bin · 27-02-2012 12:29pm

I've just been quoted E900 for supply & fit of Triton 2000 power shower in my apartment + E180 supply and fit of bathscreen.

Does anyone know if these prices are competitive?

iLikeWaffles · 23-03-2012 9:53pm

In the past two-three years the limescale in the water has increased. You can see it in the bottom of your tank! Its clogging shower heads and causing 'hot one minute cold the next' showers. Got a brand new plastic tank few year ago. Had it a year and went to inspect it because of the shower and no joke pulled about a half pound of limescale out of the bottom.

Just a tip for those cleaning there shower head every week. I had a couple of tap attachments lying around the kind that filter the water so it flows real nice similar to:

but plastic. Think I got them in tesco or something. Anyway there's these plastic filters in these yokes I took the thing apart and just placed the two of filter thingys (on top one another) in between the hose that you connect to the shower head and the shower head. It solves having to clean the head every week. Every time I use the shower I just unscrew the head and let the water flow for a few seconds and you'd be surprised how much limescale it stops going into the shower head!

I suppose some fine wire mesh would work as well.

seabre · 11-04-2012 12:23am

Hi All

I have a Mira "play" shower which is dripping constantly from the base of the unit - not the head. It is 4 years old.

Is it easy to fix something like this or does it sound as though its had its day?

If its simple enough I'd have a go myself but dont want to pay someone to do a quick fix if Im looking like I'll need a new shower and have to pay someone to install it anyway.

Thanks in advance for any replies/suggestions.

Joey the lips · 11-04-2012 7:41am

seabre wrote: »

Hi All

I have a Mira "play" shower which is dripping constantly from the base of the unit - not the head. It is 4 years old.

Is it easy to fix something like this or does it sound as though its had its day?

If its simple enough I'd have a go myself but dont want to pay someone to do a quick fix if Im looking like I'll need a new shower and have to pay someone to install it anyway.

Thanks in advance for any replies/suggestions.

The mira play is an electric shower meaning it requires good mains pressure. It also means it is relativly cheap. Its hard to say whats wrong with it without opening it.

However i never suggest someone that is not qualified opens a shower but knowing this isolating that power and not actually pulling any pipes will help you see where the problem is.

Its most likely a joint leaking. Then you will have to contact mira and price the part. The agents for mira in ireland are Modern Plant on the naas road

seabre · 11-04-2012 4:35pm

Thankyou Joey, I just read your comment but decided to open the shower @ lunchtime - just for a wee look and it turns out the little plastic cover for the joint where the water pipe comes into the shower was broke so... as I had isolated the power I decided to get the alan key/ star head screw driver from the local hardware take the little c joint off and super glue it! (God loves a trier)

My husband then arrived home - nearly killed me, and then proceeded to turn the power & water back on...... All very simple EXCEPT the water supply to the shower & curiously my utility room sink (in a diferent room) are both gone!

I'm sure I didnt touch anything except the two red taps in the house that I could identify as being stop cocks but the husband is going mental at me saying I must have done something else!!! Im baffled`!

Ronnie Beck · 01-05-2012 8:16pm

Our electric shower stopped working properly after the water was cut off for the day. It run very hot for about 20 seconds and the the low flow light comes on and it runs cold. Any tips or advice.

It's a mira elite st. I'm pretty sure it's fed off the tank so I cant understand why this happened.

Cheers.

Joey the lips · 02-05-2012 8:19am

Ronnie Beck wrote: »

Our electric shower stopped working properly after the water was cut off for the day. It run very hot for about 20 seconds and the the low flow light comes on and it runs cold. Any tips or advice.

It's a mira elite st. I'm pretty sure it's fed off the tank so I cant understand why this happened.

Cheers.

Yip. Its sounds like a case of grit in the filter of the shower. Let us know if you check the internal filter and this is not the case.

You will need to google this as its a bit detailed for me and the water needs to be turned off to the shower.

Ronnie Beck · 02-05-2012 7:24pm

Sound man joey. It was manky.

darkhorse · 06-05-2012 3:28pm

Hi Guys,

I did'nt expect that I would be posting to this thread so soon. You see, I had a Triton T90Z installed and my problem is, I went down to have a shower this morning and I pulled the electric cord, switched it on at the shower unit and there is hardly any water coming out and what water is coming out is not heating up at all. Has anyone of you experienced anything like this and what do you suggest I do. I only got it installed 3 weeks ago.
John

km79 · 07-05-2012 11:18am

Long story short there is a crack in the top of shower casing so I stopped using it over a year ago as it was letting in water and tripped switch .
Would it be safe to silicone over crack ? Or is there a better way ?
Also shower has come away from tiles on one side . Is it possible to get some kind of grip to refix it to tile ?
Thanks

electric showers

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