BBS with French

Gael23 · 16-10-2009 7:22pm #1

Im really thinking about doing this course next year, just thought I'd ask you guys a few things.
When I look at courses, similar courses to this seem to be nearly everywhere so whats so good about this one? Im from Waterford so wit is an obvious choice.
Can you spend time studying/working abroad, maybe on Coop or something?

Delta Kilo · 16-10-2009 7:45pm

Business eh? The best thing is that if you did business subjects for the LC, you will not even have to go to college for the first year and still pass everything!

If your from Waterford then I would recommend not going to WIT. Simply because it is a great experience moving away from home...trust me when you get used to the college thing, the further away you are from home, the better! Plus, I know loads of people from Waterford here in UL.

You will have to do an 8 month coop placement in 3rd year. You get paid for this, this is one of the things that makes business at UL stand out! You can also spend a semester abroad on an erasmus programme.

DJCR · 17-10-2009 1:56pm

Hey

I just graduated from this course. Reasons to come here include:

EPAS Accreditation - World renound showing the quality of the course.
New Business Building - Only opened last year, facilities there are second to none.
New Language Learning Building - Again only opened last year so facilities there are second to none as well.
New Business course (Its constantly updated) - So you are going to learn the most current info which is attractive to employers.
Opportunity to do Erasmus - DEFINATELY DO THIS!! It is funded by the EU and you French comes back amazing!!
Co-op :- The Co-Op office will find you a Paid job for 8 months so you can put all the knowledge you have gained over 2 and half years in action!! + They will find you a job abroad in a French speaking country if you wish to do it abroad (I did and had a great time..... I worked in Paris for 8 months). This is paid as well + you get funding from Europe!!!

So theres a few reasons as to why to do it in UL!!!

Any other questions just post them up.

Bonne Chance

Gael23 · 18-10-2009 10:09am

Delta Kilo- Im only doing Business Studies for the leaving cert. The whole college thing like you said is what I like about UL and im sure after a BULBS or two I'll know loads of people!

DJCR- Great post, Im coming around to the erasmus idea, I used to think it would be too much time away from college but its the best way of learning the french. Are you living on campus? I hesr palsseys great for 1st years but im not sure should I go somewhere nicer like dromroe.

thomond2006 · 18-10-2009 10:27am

Hi ryanf1. I'm 1st year BBS with French.

There's 5 modules on the course, 4 business related and 1 for French.

To manage the french, you do need a strong command of the language i.e. be comfortable at LC Higher Level French standard. The French lectures are given in French so this is essential.
Also, you will have to give a presentation on a topic in French, so having experience of public speaking helps a lot.

Microeconomics EC4101 - This is pretty difficult (imo), a lot of graphs that are sometimes hard to follow, a good grounding in maths is needed here. Interesting module though.

Principles of Management MG4031 - A whole load of common knowledge bollixs. Don't like it at all. Also our lecturer acts like a school teacher. :mad:

Priniciples of Accounting AC4001 - This is pretty interesting, we have a fantastic lecturer for this (I can't speak highly enough of him), just don't be late for his lectures. (You'll know what I mean when you're doing the course, trust me!)
You have to do a case study for this module (a full set of books).

Business Information Management MI4007 - This subject revolves how businesses use information and IT. A pretty interesting module where you learn about the impact of Social Networking Sites and the internet on the business world. The lecturer has a good sense of humour too!

Oh yeah, I'm definitely doing co-op in France, it will work wonders for your French.

AS DJCR said, the course is very up to date and the facilities are superb.

Just remember, this is my very biased opinion, you should get feedback from as many BBS students as you can. There are other users on boards that are doing this course, I'll ask them to give you feedback as well.

Daragh101 · 18-10-2009 2:47pm

hi im thinking of the bbs with no language. just wondering do you have to stay in ireland for the work experiance thing?..or do you have the option to go to another english speaking country?

Gael23 · 18-10-2009 3:35pm

I think you do have the option to go abroad even if you dont have a language.

1huge1 · 19-10-2009 4:38pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Hi ryanf1. I'm 1st year BBS with French.

There's 5 modules on the course, 4 business related and 1 for French.

To manage the french, you do need a strong command of the language i.e. be comfortable at LC Higher Level French standard. The French lectures are given in French so this is essential.
Also, you will have to give a presentation on a topic in French, so having experience of public speaking helps a lot.

Microeconomics EC4101 - This is pretty difficult (imo), a lot of graphs that are sometimes hard to follow, a good grounding in maths is needed here. Interesting module though.

Principles of Management MG4031 - A whole load of common knowledge bollixs. Don't like it at all. Also our lecturer acts like a school teacher. :mad:

Priniciples of Accounting AC4001 - This is pretty interesting, we have a fantastic lecturer for this (I can't speak highly enough of him), just don't be late for his lectures. (You'll know what I mean when you're doing the course, trust me!)
You have to do a case study for this module (a full set of books).

Business Information Management MI4007 - This subject revolves how businesses use information and IT. A pretty interesting module where you learn about the impact of Social Networking Sites and the internet on the business world. The lecturer has a good sense of humour too!

Oh yeah, I'm definitely doing co-op in France, it will work wonders for your French.

AS DJCR said, the course is very up to date and the facilities are superb.

Just remember, this is my very biased opinion, you should get feedback from as many BBS students as you can. There are other users on boards that are doing this course, I'll ask them to give you feedback as well.

Ha you forgot communications or are they not doing that this year,

Im a second year business and german student so its basically the same course.

I'm on erasmus at the moment in Austria so erasmus alone is enough a reason to do the course though you can do it even if your only doing business.

Daragh101 · 19-10-2009 4:53pm

1huge1 wrote: »

Ha you forgot communications or are they not doing that this year,

Im a second year business and german student so its basically the same course.

I'm on erasmus at the moment in Austria so erasmus alone is enough a reason to do the course though you can do it even if your only doing business.

what is erasmus

Treetirty · 19-10-2009 5:09pm

Daragh101 wrote: »

what is erasmus

Erasmus is when you spend a semester abroad, some courses have them but not all.

thomond2006 · 19-10-2009 7:34pm

1huge1 wrote: »

Ha you forgot communications or are they not doing that this year,

Im a second year business and german student so its basically the same course.

I'm on erasmus at the moment in Austria so erasmus alone is enough a reason to do the course though you can do it even if your only doing business.

No communications this year.

BBS with no language do a communications module instead of a language module.

Gael23 · 19-10-2009 8:17pm

What about the hours?
I presume you do a maths module too?

thomond2006 · 19-10-2009 10:04pm

There is no maths module

Each "business" module is 3 hours: 2 one hour lectures a and one hour tutorial per module. = 12 hours

The French module is 4 hours: 1 one hour lecture and two tutorials: 1 one hour and 1 two hours.

We also have to go to a one hour BIM lab (a joke imo :rolleyes:), you gain marks for attendances to these.

Total: 12 + 4 + 1 = 17 hours

In reality though, each one hour session is actually 40-50 minutes and you will get a lot of breaks between classes for lunch, hanging around etc.

Daragh101 · 20-10-2009 12:16am

thomond2006 wrote: »

There is no maths module

Each "business" module is 3 hours: 2 one hour lectures a and one hour tutorial per module. = 12 hours

The French module is 4 hours: 1 one hour lecture and two tutorials: 1 one hour and 1 two hours.

We also have to go to a one hour BIM lab (a joke imo :rolleyes:), you gain marks for attendances to these.

Total: 12 + 4 + 1 = 17 hours

In reality though, each one hour session is actually 40-50 minutes and you will get a lot of breaks between classes for lunch, hanging around etc.

tutorial?

Treetirty · 20-10-2009 12:19am

Daragh101 wrote: »

tutorial?

Tutorials are small groups of like 15-20 where you ask your tutors to explain anything you didn't really follow in lectures.

thomond2006 · 20-10-2009 7:51am

Treetirty wrote: »

Tutorials are small groups of like 15-20 where you ask your tutors to explain anything you didn't really follow in lectures.

However nobody does that.

Tutorials are really mini lectures where topics covered in lectures are revised, but in French other material is covered.

Polar Ice · 20-10-2009 9:53pm

1huge1 wrote: »

Ha you forgot communications or are they not doing that this year

In order to harmonise the number of credits awarded for the Business and Business + Language courses there were a few modifications made to the language courses. Both courses now do the same number of modules, this meant dropping communications along with 2 other modules I believe from the new business language courses.

Gael23 · 21-10-2009 8:33pm

Does that make a big diffrence? I thought both were the same/

Polar Ice · 22-10-2009 1:11pm

ryanf1 wrote: »

Does that make a big diffrence? I thought both were the same/

I just went checking there and the difference is: (I could be wrong about all of this so if you really want to be sure contact the course director - John Garvey http://johnfgarvey.com/about/)

Semester 1: Communications vs Language
Semester 2: Business Mathematics 1 vs Language
Semester 3: Business Mathematics 2 vs Language
Semester 4: Entrepreneurship and Innovation & Employment Relations 1 vs Language + Entrepreneurship and Innovation OR Employment Relations 1

After your 4th semester the language replaces the minor option slot

DJCR · 22-10-2009 1:36pm

That looks something like the differences Polar Ice.

It really depends on what you want to do ..... honestly Communications is no loss as everything you do in that you do in French.

Business Maths..... I'm doing a Masters now in Business and I still haven't come across it since I did it (Stats is all that comes up)!!!

Although, from a jobs point of view I am 100% sure that the language is the better option !!!!
(Unless you want to be an accountant or something)!!!

1huge1 · 22-10-2009 4:56pm

Ha and one of the reasons I went on erasmus was to get away from business maths 2... Guess I would missed it anyway

Mallox · 30-10-2009 2:40pm

1huge1 wrote: »

Ha and one of the reasons I went on erasmus was to get away from business maths 2... Guess I would missed it anyway

hey just a quick question .. if your studying a language with business then is your only oppurtunity to go abroad in 3rd year for the co-op???

1huge1 · 30-10-2009 6:50pm

Mallox wrote: »

hey just a quick question .. if your studying a language with business then is your only oppurtunity to go abroad in 3rd year for the co-op???

No not at all, you can go whenever.

I'm on erasmus (abroad) now and im only on my 1st semester of 2nd year.
I intend to go abroad for my co-op (2nd semester of 3rd year) also

Mallox · 30-10-2009 9:12pm

cool i mite do that actually .. id love to like

:D

Gael23 · 30-10-2009 9:19pm

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
1huge1- is that not alot of time away from UL? thats almost 1 full year away.

1huge1 · 31-10-2009 3:56pm

ryanf1 wrote: »

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
1huge1- is that not alot of time away from UL? thats almost 1 full year away.

It doesn't matter at all sure, I'm doing the same course right now that I would be doing at home,
I'd still be away for co-op anyway I really don't see how its a problem.

Mallox · 02-11-2009 1:26am

1huge1 wrote: »

It doesn't matter at all sure, I'm doing the same course right now that I would be doing at home,
I'd still be away for co-op anyway I really don't see how its a problem.

ya it would be a huge huge with your language i would imagine. who exactly do i speak to about going on erasmus may i ask??

Mallox · 02-11-2009 1:32am

ryanf1 wrote: »

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
quote]
Im gettin on great .I love the french part. I have an oral presentation to do in 3 weeks which im really scared of doing but ill manage somehow. on The business side then i dont like accounting but everyone is different. I love economics (the lecturer for it is great shes gas) and management and Business information systems are alright.
Cant wait to go abroad though

Ps make sure you like french if you want to do this course. already theres been 3 or 4 people who have dropped the french and are doing just plain business because they didnt even like french

DJCR · 02-11-2009 6:38pm

Mallox wrote: »

ryanf1 wrote: »

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
quote]
Im gettin on great .I love the french part. I have an oral presentation to do in 3 weeks which im really scared of doing but ill manage somehow. on The business side then i dont like accounting but everyone is different. I love economics (the lecturer for it is great shes gas) and management and Business information systems are alright.
Cant wait to go abroad though

Ps make sure you like french if you want to do this course. already theres been 3 or 4 people who have dropped the french and are doing just plain business because they didnt even like french

If you want a hand send me a PM!!!! I miss doing French - but I lived there for a year so I should be able to help!!

Mallox · 03-11-2009 10:44am

DJCR wrote: »

Mallox wrote: »

If you want a hand send me a PM!!!! I miss doing French - but I lived there for a year so I should be able to help!!

thanks I mite just take you up on that sometime.

Swizz · 03-11-2009 7:51pm

1huge1 wrote: »

No not at all, you can go whenever.

I'm on erasmus (abroad) now and im only on my 1st semester of 2nd year.
I intend to go abroad for my co-op (2nd semester of 3rd year) also

Can you go to the States?

Mallox wrote: »

ryanf1 wrote: »

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
quote]
Im gettin on great .I love the french part. I have an oral presentation to do in 3 weeks which im really scared of doing but ill manage somehow.

Youve to do it by yourself?!

BBS with French

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