BBS with French

Gael23

Im really thinking about doing this course next year, just thought I'd ask you guys a few things.
When I look at courses, similar courses to this seem to be nearly everywhere so whats so good about this one? Im from Waterford so wit is an obvious choice.
Can you spend time studying/working abroad, maybe on Coop or something?

Delta Kilo

Business eh? The best thing is that if you did business subjects for the LC, you will not even have to go to college for the first year and still pass everything!

If your from Waterford then I would recommend not going to WIT. Simply because it is a great experience moving away from home...trust me when you get used to the college thing, the further away you are from home, the better! Plus, I know loads of people from Waterford here in UL.

You will have to do an 8 month coop placement in 3rd year. You get paid for this, this is one of the things that makes business at UL stand out! You can also spend a semester abroad on an erasmus programme.

DJCR

Hey

I just graduated from this course. Reasons to come here include:

EPAS Accreditation - World renound showing the quality of the course.
New Business Building - Only opened last year, facilities there are second to none.
New Language Learning Building - Again only opened last year so facilities there are second to none as well.
New Business course (Its constantly updated) - So you are going to learn the most current info which is attractive to employers.
Opportunity to do Erasmus - DEFINATELY DO THIS!! It is funded by the EU and you French comes back amazing!!
Co-op :- The Co-Op office will find you a Paid job for 8 months so you can put all the knowledge you have gained over 2 and half years in action!! + They will find you a job abroad in a French speaking country if you wish to do it abroad (I did and had a great time..... I worked in Paris for 8 months). This is paid as well + you get funding from Europe!!!

So theres a few reasons as to why to do it in UL!!!

Any other questions just post them up.

Bonne Chance

Gael23

Delta Kilo- Im only doing Business Studies for the leaving cert. The whole college thing like you said is what I like about UL and im sure after a BULBS or two I'll know loads of people!

DJCR- Great post, Im coming around to the erasmus idea, I used to think it would be too much time away from college but its the best way of learning the french. Are you living on campus? I hesr palsseys great for 1st years but im not sure should I go somewhere nicer like dromroe.

thomond2006

Hi ryanf1. I'm 1st year BBS with French.

There's 5 modules on the course, 4 business related and 1 for French.

To manage the french, you do need a strong command of the language i.e. be comfortable at LC Higher Level French standard. The French lectures are given in French so this is essential.
Also, you will have to give a presentation on a topic in French, so having experience of public speaking helps a lot.

Microeconomics EC4101 - This is pretty difficult (imo), a lot of graphs that are sometimes hard to follow, a good grounding in maths is needed here. Interesting module though.

Principles of Management MG4031 - A whole load of common knowledge bollixs. Don't like it at all. Also our lecturer acts like a school teacher. :mad:

Priniciples of Accounting AC4001 - This is pretty interesting, we have a fantastic lecturer for this (I can't speak highly enough of him), just don't be late for his lectures. (You'll know what I mean when you're doing the course, trust me!)
You have to do a case study for this module (a full set of books).

Business Information Management MI4007 - This subject revolves how businesses use information and IT. A pretty interesting module where you learn about the impact of Social Networking Sites and the internet on the business world. The lecturer has a good sense of humour too!

Oh yeah, I'm definitely doing co-op in France, it will work wonders for your French.

AS DJCR said, the course is very up to date and the facilities are superb.

Just remember, this is my very biased opinion, you should get feedback from as many BBS students as you can. There are other users on boards that are doing this course, I'll ask them to give you feedback as well.

Daragh101

hi im thinking of the bbs with no language. just wondering do you have to stay in ireland for the work experiance thing?..or do you have the option to go to another english speaking country?

Gael23

I think you do have the option to go abroad even if you dont have a language.

1huge1

thomond2006 wrote: »

Hi ryanf1. I'm 1st year BBS with French.

There's 5 modules on the course, 4 business related and 1 for French.

To manage the french, you do need a strong command of the language i.e. be comfortable at LC Higher Level French standard. The French lectures are given in French so this is essential.
Also, you will have to give a presentation on a topic in French, so having experience of public speaking helps a lot.

Microeconomics EC4101 - This is pretty difficult (imo), a lot of graphs that are sometimes hard to follow, a good grounding in maths is needed here. Interesting module though.

Principles of Management MG4031 - A whole load of common knowledge bollixs. Don't like it at all. Also our lecturer acts like a school teacher. :mad:

Priniciples of Accounting AC4001 - This is pretty interesting, we have a fantastic lecturer for this (I can't speak highly enough of him), just don't be late for his lectures. (You'll know what I mean when you're doing the course, trust me!)
You have to do a case study for this module (a full set of books).

Business Information Management MI4007 - This subject revolves how businesses use information and IT. A pretty interesting module where you learn about the impact of Social Networking Sites and the internet on the business world. The lecturer has a good sense of humour too!

Oh yeah, I'm definitely doing co-op in France, it will work wonders for your French.

AS DJCR said, the course is very up to date and the facilities are superb.

Just remember, this is my very biased opinion, you should get feedback from as many BBS students as you can. There are other users on boards that are doing this course, I'll ask them to give you feedback as well.

Ha you forgot communications or are they not doing that this year,

Im a second year business and german student so its basically the same course.

I'm on erasmus at the moment in Austria so erasmus alone is enough a reason to do the course though you can do it even if your only doing business.

Daragh101

1huge1 wrote: »

Ha you forgot communications or are they not doing that this year,

Im a second year business and german student so its basically the same course.

I'm on erasmus at the moment in Austria so erasmus alone is enough a reason to do the course though you can do it even if your only doing business.

what is erasmus

Treetirty

Daragh101 wrote: »

what is erasmus

Erasmus is when you spend a semester abroad, some courses have them but not all.

thomond2006

1huge1 wrote: »

Ha you forgot communications or are they not doing that this year,

Im a second year business and german student so its basically the same course.

I'm on erasmus at the moment in Austria so erasmus alone is enough a reason to do the course though you can do it even if your only doing business.

No communications this year.

BBS with no language do a communications module instead of a language module.

Gael23

What about the hours?
I presume you do a maths module too?

thomond2006

There is no maths module

Each "business" module is 3 hours: 2 one hour lectures a and one hour tutorial per module. = 12 hours

The French module is 4 hours: 1 one hour lecture and two tutorials: 1 one hour and 1 two hours.

We also have to go to a one hour BIM lab (a joke imo :rolleyes:), you gain marks for attendances to these.

Total: 12 + 4 + 1 = 17 hours

In reality though, each one hour session is actually 40-50 minutes and you will get a lot of breaks between classes for lunch, hanging around etc.

Daragh101

thomond2006 wrote: »

There is no maths module

Each "business" module is 3 hours: 2 one hour lectures a and one hour tutorial per module. = 12 hours

The French module is 4 hours: 1 one hour lecture and two tutorials: 1 one hour and 1 two hours.

We also have to go to a one hour BIM lab (a joke imo :rolleyes:), you gain marks for attendances to these.

Total: 12 + 4 + 1 = 17 hours

In reality though, each one hour session is actually 40-50 minutes and you will get a lot of breaks between classes for lunch, hanging around etc.

tutorial?

Treetirty

Daragh101 wrote: »

tutorial?

Tutorials are small groups of like 15-20 where you ask your tutors to explain anything you didn't really follow in lectures.

thomond2006

Treetirty wrote: »

Tutorials are small groups of like 15-20 where you ask your tutors to explain anything you didn't really follow in lectures.

However nobody does that.

Tutorials are really mini lectures where topics covered in lectures are revised, but in French other material is covered.

Polar Ice

1huge1 wrote: »

Ha you forgot communications or are they not doing that this year

In order to harmonise the number of credits awarded for the Business and Business + Language courses there were a few modifications made to the language courses. Both courses now do the same number of modules, this meant dropping communications along with 2 other modules I believe from the new business language courses.

Gael23

Does that make a big diffrence? I thought both were the same/

Polar Ice

ryanf1 wrote: »

Does that make a big diffrence? I thought both were the same/

I just went checking there and the difference is: (I could be wrong about all of this so if you really want to be sure contact the course director - John Garvey http://johnfgarvey.com/about/)

Semester 1: Communications vs Language
Semester 2: Business Mathematics 1 vs Language
Semester 3: Business Mathematics 2 vs Language
Semester 4: Entrepreneurship and Innovation & Employment Relations 1 vs Language + Entrepreneurship and Innovation OR Employment Relations 1

After your 4th semester the language replaces the minor option slot

DJCR

That looks something like the differences Polar Ice.

It really depends on what you want to do ..... honestly Communications is no loss as everything you do in that you do in French.

Business Maths..... I'm doing a Masters now in Business and I still haven't come across it since I did it (Stats is all that comes up)!!!

Although, from a jobs point of view I am 100% sure that the language is the better option !!!!
(Unless you want to be an accountant or something)!!!

1huge1

Ha and one of the reasons I went on erasmus was to get away from business maths 2... Guess I would missed it anyway

Mallox

1huge1 wrote: »

Ha and one of the reasons I went on erasmus was to get away from business maths 2... Guess I would missed it anyway

hey just a quick question .. if your studying a language with business then is your only oppurtunity to go abroad in 3rd year for the co-op???

1huge1

Mallox wrote: »

hey just a quick question .. if your studying a language with business then is your only oppurtunity to go abroad in 3rd year for the co-op???

No not at all, you can go whenever.

I'm on erasmus (abroad) now and im only on my 1st semester of 2nd year.
I intend to go abroad for my co-op (2nd semester of 3rd year) also

Mallox

cool i mite do that actually .. id love to like :D

Gael23

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
1huge1- is that not alot of time away from UL? thats almost 1 full year away.

1huge1

ryanf1 wrote: »

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
1huge1- is that not alot of time away from UL? thats almost 1 full year away.

It doesn't matter at all sure, I'm doing the same course right now that I would be doing at home,
I'd still be away for co-op anyway I really don't see how its a problem.

Mallox

1huge1 wrote: »

It doesn't matter at all sure, I'm doing the same course right now that I would be doing at home,
I'd still be away for co-op anyway I really don't see how its a problem.

ya it would be a huge huge with your language i would imagine. who exactly do i speak to about going on erasmus may i ask??

Mallox

ryanf1 wrote: »

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
quote]
Im gettin on great .I love the french part. I have an oral presentation to do in 3 weeks which im really scared of doing but ill manage somehow. on The business side then i dont like accounting but everyone is different. I love economics (the lecturer for it is great shes gas) and management and Business information systems are alright.
Cant wait to go abroad though

Ps make sure you like french if you want to do this course. already theres been 3 or 4 people who have dropped the french and are doing just plain business because they didnt even like french

DJCR

Mallox wrote: »

ryanf1 wrote: »

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
quote]
Im gettin on great .I love the french part. I have an oral presentation to do in 3 weeks which im really scared of doing but ill manage somehow. on The business side then i dont like accounting but everyone is different. I love economics (the lecturer for it is great shes gas) and management and Business information systems are alright.
Cant wait to go abroad though

Ps make sure you like french if you want to do this course. already theres been 3 or 4 people who have dropped the french and are doing just plain business because they didnt even like french

If you want a hand send me a PM!!!! I miss doing French - but I lived there for a year so I should be able to help!!

Mallox

DJCR wrote: »

Mallox wrote: »

If you want a hand send me a PM!!!! I miss doing French - but I lived there for a year so I should be able to help!!

thanks I mite just take you up on that sometime.

Swizz

1huge1 wrote: »

No not at all, you can go whenever.

I'm on erasmus (abroad) now and im only on my 1st semester of 2nd year.
I intend to go abroad for my co-op (2nd semester of 3rd year) also

Can you go to the States?

Mallox wrote: »

ryanf1 wrote: »

How are you getting on with the course Mallox?
quote]
Im gettin on great .I love the french part. I have an oral presentation to do in 3 weeks which im really scared of doing but ill manage somehow.

Youve to do it by yourself?!

Swizz

BUMP

Gael23

Ps make sure you like french if you want to do this course. already theres been 3 or 4 people who have dropped the french and are doing just plain business because they didnt even like french

I had an exam on a full HL paper yesterday and I think I did ok. Wont know the result until next week.

Mallox

Swizz wrote: »

Can you go to the States?

Mallox wrote: »

Youve to do it by yourself?!

no we are all put into groups of two or three and have 2 weeks rto prepare the debate. Im starting mine this week!! :eek:

ryanf1 wrote: »

I had an exam on a full HL paper yesterday and I think I did ok. Wont know the result until next week.

really we didnt start doing exam papers till january/ february .. and if you say you did ok then you sound like your very good at french fair play

thomond2006

Mallox wrote: »

no we are all put into groups of two or three and have 2 weeks rto prepare the debate. Im starting mine this week!! :eek:

Week 12 presentation FTW!

Swizz

Mallox wrote: »

no we are all put into groups of two or three and have 2 weeks rto prepare the debate. Im starting mine this week!! :eek:

What do yeve to do it on?

1huge1

Swizz wrote: »

Can you go to the States?

Mallox wrote: »

Youve to do it by yourself?!

Erasmus is only with universities in Europe but I don't see why you would want to go to america when your studying French...

Trust me the Universities in Europe are amazing, and as stereotypical as this may sound at the end of the day the drinking age in america is 21 even if there are ways around it.

Gael23

Mallox wrote: »

really we didnt start doing exam papers till january/ february .. and if you say you did ok then you sound like your very good at french fair play

Got a B3! We started papers in 5th year.

galwayu

Lads I love the sound of this business and french but ive a problem.I am in lc and doing honours but i am s**** at french!!What do ye think???Can you do it with pass french???

DJCR

galwayu wrote: »

Lads I love the sound of this business and french but ive a problem.I am in lc and doing honours but i am s**** at french!!What do ye think???Can you do it with pass french???

No but you can do it with a C3 in Honours (as long as that hasn't changed).

When I arrived in UL I had very basic Honours French (C1)...... you will be fine.... so long as you put in a little effort when you get here.

Definately take the opportunity to do Erasmus and Co-Op if your French is a bit weak..... you will find that by the time of your exams you will be fine.

galwayu

Sound thanks for the very helpful advice.Do you mind me asking what made you do business?What business subjects did you do for the lc?What is this course really like difficulty wise and how time consuming is it??

Mallox

galwayu wrote: »

Sound thanks for the very helpful advice.Do you mind me asking what made you do business?What business subjects did you do for the lc?What is this course really like difficulty wise and how time consuming is it??

well i knew i wanted to do french but didn want to be an interpreter .. i want to work in frnace after i finish so a business degree will hopefully help me out there ... i did economics for leaving cert but you dont need sny business subjects at all because they start from the start with everyone .. Honestly i dont find it hard at all ... but i am only 1st year .. accounting is difficult but i dont do a tap for it so ive only myslef to blame like .. very little hours .. you mite have 15 - 18 hours a week max and thats if you attend everything which i dont haha oops .. i would reccomend this course alot but thats cos i love it

Gael23

Well since I last posted i've been to a good few open days and im still quite confused but UL is definately up there.
The BComm with french in UCD looked great but I find the size of the campus a bit off putting.
TCD was out pretty much straight away, not for me at all.
I went to the WIT one yesterday and the course is quite similar to the one in UL but as DJCR said its not the best. But I do find myself conidering it partly because I live about 3 miles from it. Its just so hard to decide

DJCR

ryanf1 wrote: »

But I do find myself conidering it partly because I live about 3 miles from it.

To be honest I think if I lived at home during college I would have gone off of my nut!!!

Of course these are different times with the recession and all so it may not be possible!!!

Gael23

Hey Guys, I just put this course no1 on my cao form! so see you around I guess

Mallox

ryanf1 wrote: »

Hey Guys, I just put this course no1 on my cao form! so see you around I guess

excellent.. see you next year so

DJCR

galwayu wrote: »

Sound thanks for the very helpful advice.Do you mind me asking what made you do business?What business subjects did you do for the lc?What is this course really like difficulty wise and how time consuming is it??

Sorry haven't been on for a while.

Before my degree I had done

1) French to LC
2) Business to LC
3) Accounting to JC

It was good enough, I graduated with honours but I did put in alot of work... spent a year in Paris and pretty much worked my ass off in 4th year!!

Kinda reget that I didn't work my ass off in 2nd and 3rd year as well but I still did well out of it!

The course has changed and been updated you will need to hit the ground running ie. from 2nd year!!

1st year is really good for those that didn't do the core subjects at 2nd level.

ie. you will have the opportunity to catch up on accounting and economics.. all the other stuff will be new to you!

Swizz

If I got BBS with French, and did a few weeks of french and didnt like it could I drop it?

Mallox

Swizz wrote: »

If I got BBS with French, and did a few weeks of french and didnt like it could I drop it?

Ya most do actually, we started off with something like 33 in the french class and at the end of first year we have only 22 or something. You can drop the french to do straight business.

thomond2006

Mallox wrote: »

Ya most do actually, we started off with something like 33 in the french class and at the end of first year we have only 22 or something. You can drop the french to do straight business.

The above is correct, the numbers dropped like flies during the first 3-4 weeks.

1huge1

Only if you have enough points to do business studies.
Like say BBS and french is 400 and you got 400, but uf business studies was 420 then you can't change over.

Im in BBS and german and we started with like 11 and now were down to 9 or so