Waterford V Limerick

[hunter164]

What's the story with the Waterford forwards not wanting to pass to the man in a better position? They seem very greedy and waste the ball with pointless shots and hitting the ball to areas where there isn't a Waterford player.

[blackbelt]

Haven't had time to read through this thread and no sure if it was mentioned but did anybody else think Mullanes shouting and punching the air wa a bit OTT.You'd swear it was the Munster Final with a free in front of goal in the last minute to put them ahead and win the game.

Some Limerick players were also guilty of this in the second half.

[CyberDave]

Originally Posted by hunter164

What's the story with the Waterford forwards not wanting to pass to the man in a better position? They seem very greedy and waste the ball with pointless shots and hitting the ball to areas where there isn't a Waterford player.

Exactly. Duignans rant on the Sunday game about Mullane and Kelly getting over excited was funny.

[Daysha]

Originally Posted by grenache

In a way i kind of agree with Duignan, Mullane doesn't win any supporters with his ''air punches'' and general playing to the gallery, and like he said, doing it when he's won a free not having hit a ball in the second half just looks silly. It doesn't give a positive image of the man and doesn't endear him to the wider audience or the referee. On the flip side, Mullane has a right to do it, and it really shouldn't be of any concern to the RTE pundits.

I don't really mind him not liking his animated style of play, I just take issue with the pathetic comparison he made to the Limerick guy who did close to the same thing when he won a free. Apparantly this fella was just lifting his players, while Mullane was playing for the gallerys and just wanted all the attention to himself.

That proves to me that either a) Duignan hasn't bothered watching Waterford matches the last 3-4 years, where Mullane has been the single most influential player in speaking to the players, lifting the players, and helping the players when they're down, or b) he is looking for any old excuse to have another go at Mullane. Either way, it just makes him look very petty and sad.

Originally Posted by hunter164

What's the story with the Waterford forwards not wanting to pass to the man in a better position? They seem very greedy and waste the ball with pointless shots and hitting the ball to areas where there isn't a Waterford player.

Not all of them are like that, but Eoin McGrath in particular is guilty of this. He's a handy player with good speed and can be very tricky to mark, but he's got a very poor hurling brain. Let him go back to the days of an impact sub where he can wreak havoc on tiring defenders, because we just can't afford to make so many crucial errors of judgement next weekend.

[CyberDave]

Originally Posted by Daysha

That proves to me that either a) Duignan hasn't bothered watching Waterford matches the last 3-4 years, where Mullane has been the single most influential player in speaking to the players, lifting the players, and helping the players when they're down, or b) he is looking for any old excuse to have another go at Mullane. Either way, it just makes him look very petty and sad.

Duignan isn't the first pundit to have a go at the Waterford players showboating to the crowd. I remember it being discussed before on the Sunday game. It might have been Daly who was on about it. Duignan, isn't wrong about the Waterford players playing to the gallery. They do it more than other GAA teams.

His comparison with the Limerick player pumping up his teammates wasn't a very good one alright.

[JHMEG]

I thought that Davy Fitz made a couple of simple mistakes today which probably cost Waterford the game. First was taking off Ken McGrath. Justin McCarthy seemed to know that if Ken isn't in the game, move him around and he will eventually come good. When he's in the game he tends to dominate in his area. (I think I'd still tend to start him in the half back line tho)

Taking off Eoin McGrath was a mistake. I didn't think he was having a bad game, and when himself, Kelly and Mullane gel they are very potent. Tho again, I have to admit, I preferred JMC's way of playing him as an impact sub.

[sparkydee]

Originally Posted by CyberDave

Duignan isn't the first pundit to have a go at the Waterford players showboating to the crowd. I remember it being discussed before on the Sunday game. It might have been Daly who was on about it. Duignan, isn't wrong about the Waterford players playing to the gallery. They do it more than other GAA teams.

His comparison with the Limerick player pumping up his teammates wasn't a very good one alright.

No it wasn't a great comparison and i think a lot of it today was caused by frustration on mullane and kelly's side. Plus you'd think davy fitz had slated the panel rather than acknowledging that the deise had a bad day at the office and that the panel would rightly criticise the game.

[Daysha]

Originally Posted by sparkydee

you'd think davy fitz had slated the panel rather than acknowledging that the deise had a bad day at the office and that the panel would rightly criticise the game.

I'll admit, that part confused me too.

[bricky10]

Originally Posted by CyberDave

Duignan isn't the first pundit to have a go at the Waterford players showboating to the crowd. I remember it being discussed before on the Sunday game. It might have been Daly who was on about it. Duignan, isn't wrong about the Waterford players playing to the gallery. They do it more than other GAA teams.
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I insist you watch a Dublin watch. Especially Dublin V Loais a few Leinster finals ago! The camera might not catch all them, but they do it WAY more than Waterford do!

[daftdave]

i felt waterford were lucky in the end and could have very easily lost the game..... when the rain came i thought the game might open up a bit more but it actually made the game worse (if thats possible).

has a time and venue been announced for the replay ??

[daftdave]

Originally Posted by daftdave

i felt waterford were lucky in the end and could have very easily lost the game..... when the rain came i thought the game might open up a bit more but it actually made the game worse (if thats possible).

has a time and venue been announced for the replay ??

davy fitz post game interview for anyone that missed it


http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/champion...,2562306,0,209

[Mossy Monk]

Originally Posted by Daysha

Michael Duignan is a hypocritical mess of a pundit

He made himself sound very foolish with his analysis last night. He is useless.

Originally Posted by daftdave

has a time and venue been announced for the replay ??

Thurles next Saturday. Time hasn't been announced yet.

[John The Bad]

I can see both sides to the Mullane Duignan chatter. I can understand why Mullane reacted the way he did; that was a hugely important free to win as far as this game was concerned. But at the same time, Duignan does make an interesting point that it can all be a bit silly. Didn't the other man on the panel agree with him?

As for Davy Fitz's interview; he was talking the same all-these-feckers-are-out-to-get-me paranoid nonsense on Radio 1 that morning. It's typical GAA misplaced indignation -- "there were those who said it couldn't be done!"

[Aidric]

Limerick should have won that game by a point yesterday, David Breen had a free shot and just struck a weak effort low in to the keeper in the last minute. Saying that a draw was probably the right result.
As for the Mullane rant, it was probably a bit of an effort by the RTE panel to stimulate some debate after what was a poor game with little highlights. The best part about the Mullane fist pumping was when Geary gave him a slap across the chest with the hurl.

[soccymonster]

Originally Posted by Aidric

The best part about the Mullane fist pumping was when Geary gave him a slap across the chest with the hurl.

i was watching the sunday game highlights myself last night with my dad and they showed john mullane punching the air (or beating it more like) in the highlights of the match, before the analysis. I said to my dad 'wtf is he trying to do. He looks like some muppet trying to dance' and amazingly dont the analysists show it as well! I didnt see this at the match, maybe because i was shouting at the ref for giving a free or something to the opposition at a critical time (who doesnt?). But when i saw this on tv i was just like what the hell?! Punching the air is one thing but like turning physo is another. There will probably be people who will debate this with me but this is just my view. Oh and quoting a post up there, brian geary patting mullane with the hurley telling him to calm down was priceless Haha.