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Tall People Flying !
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05-07-2008 4:46pm#1
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I didn't know you did have to pay extra?
Let me explain, I do not fit in an economy seat, my feet do not touch the ground as my knees are stuck somewhere near the table, and if the guy/girl tries to move their seat back during the fight I am screwed ! and before anyone suggests putting my legs out in the aisle, this is assuming I can get an aisle seat and its not practical or comfortable, not to mention safe for others or the trolley cant get past. on long haul flight my chances of DVT are increased as my legs are squashed from the start... so please
take this as read..
Now the only way out is to pre-book an emergency seat..
Our national carrier charges 30 euros for this service for a round trip to say London !0 -
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Look at it this way OP. While you have to pay for leg room on flights, short people may have to fork out for step-ladders to reach things that are high up - you don't. Short people have to ask for help with reaching high things in supermarkets - you don't. If there's a really big puddle, you can step over it - they can't. If you're at a gig or club, you have an infinitely better chance of being able to see and/or find your friends if/when you get separated. I realise that only one of these things is of monetary value, but take some comfort in the others!!
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Look at it this way OP. While you have to pay for leg room on flights, short people may have to fork out for step-ladders to reach things that are high up - you don't. Short people have to ask for help with reaching high things in supermarkets - you don't. If there's a really big puddle, you can step over it - they can't. If you're at a gig or club, you have an infinitely better chance of being able to see and/or find your friends if/when you get separated. I realise that only one of these things is of monetary value, but take some comfort in the others!!
Brilliant LOL but there are flaws, the finding a friend at a gig only works if they are tall or have a rather unique bald spot on their head !
and for all the other items mentioned you dont get charged 30 euros 0 -
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Do they go to LA ? JFK in NY ? :P
Yep, I can see how this is going to go !!!:D:confused:;):rolleyes:0 -
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If you didnt have the option of pre-booking the emergency exit then you wouldn't be able to be sure you could get it so you should be glad you can pre-book it - even though it is expensive.A friend of a friends sister-in-law mothers brother.. OK its me
Why do tall people, I mean really tall people 6ft 6in have to pay for leg room on flights ? its genetic ! I cant help it !0 -
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If you didn't have the option of pre-booking the emergency exit then you wouldn't be able to be sure you could get it so you should be glad you can pre-book it - even though it is expensive.
I am so glad that I pay an additional 30 euros each time
You clearly are not tall and if you are you clearly don't travel a lot
Regarding the "fat" people. Personally I believe if its medical or genetic, (don't know a lot about been overweight" but if its a medical situation as opposed to "who ate all the pies" then why should they pay for an additional seat ? could be simply sorted with a letter from your doctor ! I suppose.. either way, I dont need a doctors note I am just tall ! the human race is getting taller, I am simply ahead of my time !
Next we will be charging for wheelchairs.... O, we did do that didn't we LOL until someone stood up (figuratively) and complained !
Regarding the long haul you are in fact correct.. the seat configuration gives you some additional leg room.. not a lot but its bearable just...
I am simply saying that its descrimination !
If I was blind my dog would be allowed ! 0 -
Im only about 6' 1" but I travel at least twice a month on an aeroplane.I am so glad that I pay an additional 30 euros each time
You clearly are not tall and if you are you clearly don't travel a lot
Which do you prefer - the ryanair way of every man for himself or the aerlingus way of giving an option of pre-booking a seat well in advance of the flight at a cost? or what do you suggest the airlines do?
I am not trying to justify their charge but its really the same difference when it comes down to it. You are always going to have problems being either much taller than average or much smaller than average (the average being about 5' 7/8")0 -
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Axer,
I am at a loss here. maybe you could clear up a few points, you said above you are not justifying the airlines position.. but you go on to say basically I should accept it ? may I ask you a simple direct question.
Do you in fact agree with the charge or not ?
and at 6ft 1in do you fit comfortably into a domestic seat ?
as for the charges they are in fact relatively new...
I refer back to the times when wheelchair charges were introduced..
you also mention the measuring of people.. at my height its obvious even to a blind person (my voice is heard form above) that I am quite tall. so no need to think for one minute that I am going to fit in a standard seat..
so, I get charged for been genetically tall.. Lets be fair and charge the blind people for their dogs.. you are not suggesting that is right ?
I travel a lot myself.. I'm a travel photographer among other things.
Not directed at your good self, and I have mentioned it before here on boards. But I often come across many people who simply argue the opposite to whatever the way a discussion is going.. To me I am discriminated for something I cant help. I am tall.. why cant we go after the blind folks as well its only fair after all. :rolleyes:
If we accept it then we deserve it..0 -
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Well, if you want/have to fly with aerlingus then you have to accept it. The only way that it will change however is if it more hassle than it is worth to them.Axer,
I am at a loss here. maybe you could clear up a few points, you said above you are not justifying the airlines position.. but you go on to say basically I should accept it ?
No in one way, yes in another.may I ask you a simple direct question.
Do you in fact agree with the charge or not ?
No, because I think it is a bit money grabbing exercise to charge for those seats considering aerlingus are still not that cheap of an airline and thus are not passing on the savings to their customers. I could understand ryanair doing it since you could buy a flight from them and pay the extra charges for the emergency exit seat and still come out cheaper than aerlingus.
Yes, because they are firstly looking at supply vs demand and see that there is a demand there (and obviously low supply) and also because it is the only way of making sure you get that seat if you really need it since before this you could pick your seat online or at the airport thus the seats with extra leg room would be gone very quickly if you didnt have to pay for them
I usually fly with Ryanair (30") but 2 days ago I flew with aerlingus (32"). I fit into both fine however it would be great to be able to stretch my legs but you get what you pay for thus I accept that. I also took a citylink bus to dublin airport. That journey was longer than the flight I took and had less legroom from what I could tell thus it doesnt bother me too much about the leg room in the aeroplane.and at 6ft 1in do you fit comfortably into a domestic seat ?
So where is the line between when a person should get a seat with extra leg room or not? 6' 1", 6' 2", 6' 3"...?you also mention the measuring of people.. at my height its obvious even to a blind person (my voice is heard form above) that I am quite tall. so no need to think for one minute that I am going to fit in a standard seat..
I don't think you are getting charged for being genetically tall. I think airlines have looked at the average size of a human and the amount of seats they can fit in and settled on a leg room distance as a result i.e. what customers would accept. 32 inches is a very common size.so, I get charged for been genetically tall.. Lets be fair and charge the blind people for their dogs.. you are not suggesting that is right ?
Can you actually fit into a normall airlingus 32" seat?
I am not arguing just for the sake of arguing but from a business point of view I see why they are charging. Also since it is the only way you are going to guarantee to get that seat since otherwise it would more than likely be booked straight away since very few are willing to pay the extra bit. Also there is no point giving out about something without giving a viable alternative method - that is why I ask the questions.Not directed at your good self, and I have mentioned it before here on boards. But I often come across many people who simply argue the opposite to whatever the way a discussion is going.. To me I am discriminated for something I cant help. I am tall.. why cant we go after the blind folks as well its only fair after all. :rolleyes:
I think being blind is somehow a little more inconvenient than being tall.
It is going to be a hard fought battle since most accept it because they are not as tall as you.If we accept it then we deserve it..0 -
which we are not in.
What about those checking in online or via the computers they have set up?
The length of legs is not the only reason why someone would need extra leg room. Conditions whereby someone is prone to blood clots; conditions such as arthritis whereby the person might need to stretch their legs to help with the pain; conditions that make it hard for the person to get in and out of their seat. Im sure there are more even deserving conditions that I don't know about.
I can see this is truly going nowhere, so I will leave you with this..
You cant sit in an emergency seat unless you are medically sound..
try any of the above and you will be instantly excluded from one at an emergency door.
Cheers for your thoughts folks.. I am in fact going to try to get some advice regarding the legality of this. should be interesting..0 -
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Can't believe this took 48 mins to come up
only took a few seconds for me, i'd check your connection if i were you
not particular tall my self, but will still try and get the emergancey seats my self, or if flying aer lingus, will select them on the self check in, just purely from a comfort point of view0 -
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The emergency exit seats are not the only seats with extra leg room.You cant sit in an emergency seat unless you are medically sound..
try any of the above and you will be instantly excluded from one at an emergency door.
What could be illegal about it?Cheers for your thoughts folks.. I am in fact going to try to get some advice regarding the legality of this. should be interesting..
There is no point giving out unless you have viable alternative ideas as to how it should work. You never answered at what height should people be offered the seats with extra leg room in your opinion?0 -
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What if there was a plane-load of people going to a tall people's convention. Who gets the seats then? Picture the carnage.
In all seriousness though, i do think there is an issue here. Not sure of a viable way to solve it though.Brilliant LOL but there are flaws, the finding a friend at a gig only works if they are tall or have a rather unique bald spot on their head !
and for all the other items mentioned you dont get charged 30 euros
Hey, a good sturdy step-ladder for those hard to reach kitchen cupboards can be upwards of €30! As can heel lifts or those shoes that make you look taller.0
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