IEC Visa Refusal

beano345 · 07-02-2011 10:46pm

C@non wrote: »

Has any one sent the forms off and never heard back?? mine has been sent over 2 weeks ago now, and i never received a email or anything..

Wondering if they actually have it or not by now!! anyone in the same boat?

id get in touch with them if i was you! 2 weeks is a bit long! did you not even get a receipt of application e-mail??

C@non · 08-02-2011 9:33am

No, I didn't get anything at all and it's been 5 days since I emailed the embassy. I'm afraid that if incense it twice they might cancel it or something

beano345 · 08-02-2011 11:58am

C@non wrote: »

No, I didn't get anything at all and it's been 5 days since I emailed the embassy. I'm afraid that if incense it twice they might cancel it or something

did you get a tracking number from an post for your application?? if you did you can check on there site to see where it is?maybe even try ringing them! best of luck with it!

cookies221 · 08-02-2011 1:32pm

So the Canada IEC work visa programme is completely sold out on USIT and they are no longer accepting people onto the waiting list. Should I give up on my Canadian dream and try applying for Australia instead?

triona10 · 08-02-2011 2:12pm

cookies221 wrote: »

So the Canada IEC work visa programme is completely sold out on USIT and they are no longer accepting people onto the waiting list. Should I give up on my Canadian dream and try applying for Australia instead?

Hi you can apply directly to IEC

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/ireland-irlande/experience_canada_experience/index.aspx?lang=eng

cookies221 · 08-02-2011 2:28pm

I'm an idiot...I just noticed another thread about applying directly to IEC. Thanks Triona.

C@non · 08-02-2011 4:13pm

I think as well go4less.ie has them too

lillieme · 09-02-2011 5:51pm

Hi can someone please help me, I got an email confirmation tellin me I was successful in the first application phase and that my form was forwarded to London and to wait for confirmation from London. Now I just recieved a mail from the Embassey in Paris again sayin my application was refused cos items missing etc.. even tho I got mail to say was accepted?? WHATS GOING ON??? sO FRUSTRATED................:mad:

gustafo · 09-02-2011 5:57pm

lillieme wrote: »

Hi can someone please help me, I got an email confirmation tellin me I was successful in the first application phase and that my form was forwarded to London and to wait for confirmation from London. Now I just recieved a mail from the Embassey in Paris again sayin my application was refused cos items missing etc.. even tho I got mail to say was accepted?? WHATS GOING ON??? sO FRUSTRATED................:mad:

Maybe they did a security check and found out you are a murderer haha only joking, it's a new on here alright kinda strange, oz and nz are so easy for getting a whv canada seem way over the top for god sake it's only a visa for a year not for life.

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 5:57pm

lillieme wrote: »

Hi can someone please help me, I got an email confirmation tellin me I was successful in the first application phase and that my form was forwarded to London and to wait for confirmation from London. Now I just recieved a mail from the Embassey in Paris again sayin my application was refused cos items missing etc.. even tho I got mail to say was accepted?? WHATS GOING ON??? sO FRUSTRATED................:mad:

will they send your application back to you??? ..

DazzlerIE · 09-02-2011 5:59pm

lillieme wrote: »

Hi can someone please help me, I got an email confirmation tellin me I was successful in the first application phase and that my form was forwarded to London and to wait for confirmation from London. Now I just recieved a mail from the Embassey in Paris again sayin my application was refused cos items missing etc.. even tho I got mail to say was accepted?? WHATS GOING ON??? sO FRUSTRATED................:mad:

Yikes, that's a nightmare

this whole process needs to be streamlined, it's a joke as is

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 6:22pm

lilleme did you have documents missing? and signed in all of eight places in cluding the second 3[page iec application form.. Original police certificate . medical examination i thought that they go through this like send out form for us to get signed. or maby if you have information incorrect thye wil refuse.

oh idk.. idk.. not looking forward to their email.

Demo2011 · 09-02-2011 10:09pm

Jimmmy McNulty wrote: »

Hey, my application arrived on Monday and I got rejected on Tuesday. I sent them a scanned version of a new police cert I got in Jan.. I think I should have sent the original now. Did you send the original version?

Jimmmy, did you ever get the file back ? What was the upshot of it all if you do not mind me asking ?

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 10:25pm

lillieme wrote: »

Hi can someone please help me, I got an email confirmation tellin me I was successful in the first application phase and that my form was forwarded to London and to wait for confirmation from London. Now I just recieved a mail from the Embassey in Paris again sayin my application was refused cos items missing etc.. even tho I got mail to say was accepted?? WHATS GOING ON??? sO FRUSTRATED................:mad:

can i ask you.. what you want to work at over there? ... or if you are at college or that. jw would type of job or experience effect it.. and or all the document error checks..

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 10:34pm

Demo2011 wrote: »

Jimmmy, did you ever get the file back ? What was the upshot of it all if you do not mind me asking ?

yeah originals are required.. copies not alloud. even doh they didnt mention it anywhere. send a new kit one off to them sure.. you have everything else and original police cert. so you can send it off asap.. alsong with ... all the minor errors, middle names, N/A , signed and dated on all forms plus second iec 3[page. correct information etc.. etc.

lillieme · 09-02-2011 10:37pm

No im a qualified primary school teacher I have a post grad and undergrad so im well qualified. my application was filled out prop or else wouldn of been sent to London for final Phase im sickened cos dunno what could be

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 10:47pm

lillieme wrote: »

No im a qualified primary school teacher I have a post grad and undergrad so im well qualified. my application was filled out prop or else wouldn of been sent to London for final Phase im sickened cos dunno what could be

hmm... yeah thats strange... did they say you were missing items.. yeah i have yet to folllow up on this phase myself.. not sure what they look for for this part. :cool:

eamog1888 · 09-02-2011 10:49pm

lillieme wrote: »

No im a qualified primary school teacher I have a post grad and undergrad so im well qualified. my application was filled out prop or else wouldn of been sent to London for final Phase im sickened cos dunno what could be

thats a load of bollix m8....i got the 1st phase acceptance on monday and its on route to london for final check...i honestly thought that once u got past 1st u were a cert to get the visa...who's to say that someone in the frenchies office didnt mislay a page or something along those lines....im sicken for ya...hope i dont get that mail:cool:

lillieme · 09-02-2011 10:50pm

said I was missing itiems but I dont believe I was as if I was I couldn of got passed phase 1???Said they will dend it out to me in post so guess Ill find out then.. so annoyed. Dunno shoud I get my money back now or what will I do

lillieme · 09-02-2011 10:54pm

Hope you dont get that mail its not nice when your dead set on going.... was so excited!!Let me know if you get word back you have got the second round acceptance.. would it have anythin to do with not having medical cert included?

eamog1888 · 09-02-2011 10:54pm

lillieme wrote: »

said I was missing itiems but I dont believe I was as if I was I couldn of got passed phase 1???Said they will dend it out to me in post so guess Ill find out then.. so annoyed. Dunno shoud I get my money back now or what will I do

mail come from paris or london

lillieme · 09-02-2011 10:57pm

Came from Paris, this is why im more confused, cos thought I passed Paris part and my form was ment to be in London for final Phase???

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 11:04pm

lillieme wrote: »

said I was missing itiems but I dont believe I was as if I was I couldn of got passed phase 1???Said they will dend it out to me in post so guess Ill find out then.. so annoyed. Dunno shoud I get my money back now or what will I do

yeah... i doubt it was missing pages as it would have gotten back to the embassy in france and theyd know that all the pages were there. maby it could be certain information. id say they will tell you what to do when they post you it back. and or send you an email regarding your reimbursement. says on the kit. if you dont hear from them in few days or more.. to email them.

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 11:09pm

lillieme wrote: »

Came from Paris, this is why im more confused, cos thought I passed Paris part and my form was ment to be in London for final Phase???

did oyu have your application form in to them and accepted from last week ? if so it would have gotten to uk up to this time. and you sure that is says second phase refused?

lillieme · 09-02-2011 11:13pm

no got a mail last week to say I passed the first phase and that my application had been forwarded to London for second Phase. Then get mail today from PARIS not London to tell me my application was refused?Didn say anything about which phase, just sent me form to reclaim my money

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 11:17pm

there was no medical form in the kit doh.. or anything stating about it..

lillieme · 09-02-2011 11:20pm

yeah I know but if you wnt to work with kids you have to apply for one tho im sure thats only after your get accepted. I dunno feel so disheartened now

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 11:25pm

lillieme wrote: »

yeah I know but if you wnt to work with kids you have to apply for one tho im sure thats only after your get accepted. I dunno feel so disheartened now

ok.. but is that not up to them to tell you that you need the medical test done.. i mean i think they need to send you out their formated guidlines and medical examination rules first . i would imagine as i dont see anything anywhere inthe kit for people under those job cetegories of healthcare/working with kids to get a medical cert. I think thats a separte part.. im under that category i hope i dont get refusal..

lillieme · 09-02-2011 11:28pm

where it asked do you intend to work in health or education I ticked yes?

GGirl2010 · 09-02-2011 11:35pm

lillieme wrote: »

where it asked do you intend to work in health or education I ticked yes?

yeah.. after it i put what type of work.. i cant remember if it said ,if yes state what job or not.. but idk im sure that wasnt the problem.

Jimmmy McNulty · 10-02-2011 1:03am

Demo2011 wrote: »

Jimmmy, did you ever get the file back ? What was the upshot of it all if you do not mind me asking ?

I ended up applying 3 times for this! I was eventually accepted today due to sending the original police cert it would seem.. I haven't even received my first rejected application back yet which was over 2 weeks ago! I just kept sending off applications until they eventually accepted me!

It's a mess of a process but glad to have made "some" progress but still a long way to go!

tenchi-fan · 10-02-2011 1:03am

lillieme wrote: »

no got a mail last week to say I passed the first phase and that my application had been forwarded to London for second Phase. Then get mail today from PARIS not London to tell me my application was refused?Didn say anything about which phase, just sent me form to reclaim my money

I think Paris are doing all the admin work, and London are just okay'ing it and issuing the actual letters of introduction.

Either Paris messed up and approved your application even though you weren't eligible or didn't give all required information, or London were unhappy with information contained in your application and decided to reject it.

At least with usit, any outstanding requirements are advised to usit and they keep your file open. I hate to say it, but since usit reduced their prices the direct route now seems like a lot of hassle.

C@non · 10-02-2011 3:20pm

Don't ask for your money back with usit, remember with usit even if it's rejected the visa is still reserved for you so you will get it sooner or later. But directly if you cancel with usit and do it your self
Is first come first serve and if you get rejected again you space might not be there anymore!

I have any payment after waiting for over 2 weeks, it on the way to London so please god it all works out! Any one at this stage yet?

lazenbee · 10-02-2011 8:31pm

Hi there - I just got declined this morning and have no idea why . they say you should wait until you receive the letter explaining why you were declined before re-applying - does everyone wait or did you just reapply in the mean time and see what happened?

So disappointing - Jimmy McNulty what did you do ?:mad:

eamog1888 · 10-02-2011 8:41pm

sorry to hear that...at what stage did you get refused

....did it pass the 1st phase?

lillieme · 10-02-2011 8:47pm

yup passed phase one

eamog1888 · 10-02-2011 9:02pm

lillieme wrote: »

yup passed phase one

i passed phase 1 and it was sent to london on Mon for final phase in the visa section.....i aint heard anything yet...fingers crossed:cool:

Demo2011 · 10-02-2011 9:04pm

lillieme wrote: »

yup passed phase one

When did you get the confirmation of phase 1 email ?

lillieme · 10-02-2011 9:08pm

last week..

Demo2011 · 10-02-2011 9:10pm

lillieme wrote: »

last week..

Can you remember which day ?

C@non · 11-02-2011 1:07am

As far as i can see from all the applications.. it seems you only get refused if you have not filled out some parts, sent copies of forms or missed a few forms..
I dont think they are allowed to fill out or tick parts that you havent done..

Has anyone gotten refused after it arrived in london?

For anyone who has sent payment.. the bank told me that there is no charge for IBAN transfers with in europe, we only have to pay a charge if its outside of europe.. did anyone in ireland pay charges for sending money? or just the 110 euro?

Demo2011 · 11-02-2011 1:14am

C@non wrote: »

As far as i can see from all the applications.. it seems you only get refused if you have not filled out some parts, sent copies of forms or missed a few forms..
I dont think they are allowed to fill out or tick parts that you havent done..

Has anyone gotten refused after it arrived in london?

For anyone who has sent payment.. the bank told me that there is no charge for IBAN transfers with in europe, we only have to pay a charge if its outside of europe.. did anyone in ireland pay charges for sending money? or just the 110 euro?

I believe that Lillieme recieved a refusal on Wednesday after being accepted into phase 2 - quite worrying as apparently it was because of incomplete file / info (which I thought would have been picked up in Paris )

C@non · 11-02-2011 1:22am

Thats not good news at all. And it is very worrying!

It looks like to me that the paris embassy is full of young people nearly like a young team of people who are training up in this field!

But its very unfair that because of their inexperience a few people end up arriving near the last phase to be declined because they missed one or 2 things!

Whats the purpose of leaving contact information, if they cant even call you and ask you for the missing information?!

colin29 · 11-02-2011 2:42am

C@non wrote: »

Thats not good news at all. And it is very worrying!

It looks like to me that the paris embassy is full of young people nearly like a young team of people who are training up in this field!

But its very unfair that because of their inexperience a few people end up arriving near the last phase to be declined because they missed one or 2 things!

Whats the purpose of leaving contact information, if they cant even call you and ask you for the missing information?!

Are you being serious or is this a joke, how do you know that the embassy is staffed by young people, which has nothing to do with anything by the way, people are being refused because of their own mistakes, nobody to blame but themselves, just remember, the immigration officers working at these embassies are not just dealing with IEC visas for Irish people, they deal with a variety of visa applications from a whole bunch of countries, these people don't have time to be calling you to tell you that you missed out on some information.

Jimmmy McNulty · 11-02-2011 4:05am

colin29 wrote: »

Are you being serious or is this a joke, how do you know that the embassy is staffed by young people, which has nothing to do with anything by the way, people are being refused because of their own mistakes, nobody to blame but themselves, just remember, the immigration officers working at these embassies are not just dealing with IEC visas for Irish people, they deal with a variety of visa applications from a whole bunch of countries, these people don't have time to be calling you to tell you that you missed out on some information.

Colin,

You aren't exactly correct in making these people out to be trained professionals either! I have seen loads of contradictions in who has been accepted and who has been refused!

My application arrived yesterday morning and I was accepted yesterday evening. This would suggest to me that they probably do have some time to at least let the applicant know why they were refused. A scanned copy of the refused application would be helpful for example.. I had to wait 2.5 weeks to receive my first refused application!

Jimmy

Jimmmy McNulty · 11-02-2011 4:16am

lazenbee wrote: »

Hi there - I just got declined this morning and have no idea why . they say you should wait until you receive the letter explaining why you were declined before re-applying - does everyone wait or did you just reapply in the mean time and see what happened?

So disappointing - Jimmy McNulty what did you do ?:mad:

Hey,

I know the feeling! I was refused twice.. It's really hard to take! I just kept applying as it takes them too long to send it back. My address is in Canada which takes ages! I received my first application today, 2.5 weeks after it was refused! Luckily I was accepted yesterday.

If you tell me in detail what exactly you did on your first application I might be able to point out to you what you did wrong.. I have seen a few rejected applications and plenty of accepted ones now so I think I have a fair idea.

Jimmy

GGirl2010 · 11-02-2011 12:14pm

C@non wrote: »

As far as i can see from all the applications.. it seems you only get refused if you have not filled out some parts, sent copies of forms or missed a few forms..
I dont think they are allowed to fill out or tick parts that you havent done..

Has anyone gotten refused after it arrived in london?

For anyone who has sent payment.. the bank told me that there is no charge for IBAN transfers with in europe, we only have to pay a charge if its outside of europe.. did anyone in ireland pay charges for sending money? or just the 110 euro?

Well this part for errors, missing forms, copied forms, should only be dealth with in the first phase!!! the only form that is to be original is the application forms itself and the police cert! all the rest are copies. (photocopied, not scanned ) is best . for the second phase idk what they look for, im just worried that paris is not doing it right while sending it off to uk.

FreeAnd.. · 11-02-2011 2:48pm

C@non wrote: »

As far as i can see from all the applications.. it seems you only get refused if you have not filled out some parts, sent copies of forms or missed a few forms..
I dont think they are allowed to fill out or tick parts that you havent done..

Has anyone gotten refused after it arrived in london?

For anyone who has sent payment.. the bank told me that there is no charge for IBAN transfers with in europe, we only have to pay a charge if its outside of europe.. did anyone in ireland pay charges for sending money? or just the 110 euro?

just paid the 110e with aib...no idea why other people are paying more...paid the money and scanned the receipt same day...did not wait until payment had cleared...got email saying it was sent to the uk the day after that...

C@non · 11-02-2011 3:11pm

Well i know that they are young new people because i phoned the french embassy and talked to the person at reception, they said there is a specific section of young people who are looking after the IEC section.. as before it was all done by the UK office.

So one can only imagine that its a new team of people as this was never done before by paris.
But also yes the french office should have it all checked paperwork and cert wise.. and i figure that the uk office will only refuse it, if there is something seriously wrong.. maybe some history dealings with them in the past etc..

Jimmmy McNulty, im wondering when you received a refusal email, did you resend it over and over again with the same reference number etc..???

I clicked on my download certificate link again to review things and it comes up saying you have already downloaded this..

i think they might of copped on that people might be resending the same form a few times.. but if it worked all the better!!

What notes did come back when they refused the first application jimmy?

GGirl2010 · 11-02-2011 3:40pm

C@non wrote: »

Well i know that they are young new people because i phoned the french embassy and talked to the person at reception, they said there is a specific section of young people who are looking after the IEC section.. as before it was all done by the UK office.

So one can only imagine that its a new team of people as this was never done before by paris.
But also yes the french office should have it all checked paperwork and cert wise.. and i figure that the uk office will only refuse it, if there is something seriously wrong.. maybe some history dealings with them in the past etc..

Jimmmy McNulty, im wondering when you received a refusal email, did you resend it over and over again with the same reference number etc..???

I clicked on my download certificate link again to review things and it comes up saying you have already downloaded this..

i think they might of copped on that people might be resending the same form a few times.. but if it worked all the better!!

What notes did come back when they refused the first application jimmy?

No you just reapply!!! as in get a new application kit, with a new download certificate... your not alloud to resend with same download certificate, plus you need the police certificate so you cant send until you have the original police cert. so you have to wait.

IEC Visa Refusal

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