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  • #2052
    The Dark Knight
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭The Dark Knight


    One thing that annoys me:
    Why are Setanta Sticking with the "Setanta Ireland" and "Setanta Sports 1" branding. This is a legacy from the now defunct Setanta UK operation.
    Surely it makes more sense to Label them:

    Option 1: "Setanta Sports" and "Premier Sports"
    This would solve the whole DOG misalignment with the channel name (due to Setanta 1 and Premier sharing the same feed)

    Option 2: "Setanta Sports 1" and Setanta Sports 2"
    Doesn't solve the DOG issue, but makes more sense than the current set-up.

    Maybe it's just me that gets frustrated by this....?


  • #2053
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,805 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    I've wondered that myself. It is very messy how they are doing it at the moment and so easy to clean up.


  • #2054
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Back in 2013 Setanta actually announced that they were rebranding Setanta Sports 1 as Premier Sports and were days away from doing so when all mention of it was pulled. What changed? They announced a new carriage deal with UPC which released them from their commitment to show half of their Premier League fixtures on Setanta Ireland. They want Setanta branding on the channel for the Premier League fixtures. I agree, it's a stupid situation and the way Setanta 1 is branded is mad (Setanta branding during Ireland-only programmes, Premier Sports the rest of the time). Note that the cable version is slightly different in that it has a Setanta DOG 100% of the time (but still gets Premier Sports idents and promos).


  • #2055
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Should also be noted that the channel that launched on sky is called "Setanta HD" and not "Setanta Sports 1 HD"... I wonder could we see some stuff from Setanta Ireland being broadcast on the HD channel although this would mean the "this programme is not available" on premier sports in the UK.


  • #2056
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    I wouldn't read too much into that - Setanta Ireland HD on UPC is just labeled "Setanta HD" (and indeed that is what its DOG reads!). Someday Setanta Ireland HD will launch on Sky. Maybe. Perhaps.


  • #2057
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    It's a real pity that it isn't a standalone channel apart from Premier Sport, it would have gave us an extra HD match on Champions League nights... Apparently most of the red button CL feeds will be SD on satellite like sky sports as all HD will be exclusive to BT Vision in the UK.


  • #2058
    mikeym
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Setanta HD is on Sky Ch460.

    The next live football on Premier/Setanta HD is Birkirkara V West Ham in the Europa League.


  • #2059
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,305 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    mikeym wrote: »
    Setanta HD is on Sky Ch460.

    The next live football on Premier/Setanta HD is Birkirkara V West Ham in the Europa League.
    Its on 424 for me but I have the HD sub with Sky so the SD and HD versions are going to have different numbers


  • #2060
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,805 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    irishfeen wrote: »
    I wonder could we see some stuff from Setanta Ireland being broadcast on the HD channel

    No. That would piss off Premier Sports subscribers no end.


  • #2061
    irishdeej
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭irishdeej


    lertsnim wrote: »
    No. That would piss off Premier Sports subscribers no end.

    With regards to the Saturday 3pm matches, will they be in full HD?


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  • #2062
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    irishdeej wrote: »
    With regards to the Saturday 3pm matches, will they be in full HD?
    I would imagine so, there should be no reason why they wouldn't!


  • #2063
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    number of HD channels corrected to 5 now. Also €1 "introductory offer" for the first month.


  • #2064
    ftakeith
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    irishfeen wrote: »
    It's a real pity that it isn't a standalone channel apart from Premier Sport, it would have gave us an extra HD match on Champions League nights... Apparently most of the red button CL feeds will be SD on satellite like sky sports as all HD will be exclusive to BT Vision in the UK.

    red button feeds were in SD on sky also

    the setanta pack is the half price of sky sports if you take the annual package

    I will happily renew for another year from september 1st

    of course I am on the half price sky sports for 6 months offer

    if you are only into soccer only you get SS1/SS5 only through the 'SS1 only package' through sky


  • #2065
    batistuta9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    icdg wrote: »
    number of HD channels corrected to 5 now. Also €1 "introductory offer" for the first month.

    There'll be no premier league on the HD channel, right?


  • #2066
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    There'll be no premier league on the HD channel, right?
    Yes they will! .. All Premier League games on BT and Setanta will now be available in HD. BT Sport 1 HD and Setanta HD (3pm's)


  • #2067
    batistuta9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Yes they will! .. All Premier League games on BT and Setanta will now be available in HD. BT Sport 1 HD and Setanta HD (3pm's)

    Should have mentioned it's the 3pms & setanta highlights I'm asking about.

    Is the PL not always on set.Ireland?


  • #2068
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    Should have mentioned it's the 3pms & setanta highlights I'm asking about.

    Is the PL not always on set.Ireland?
    No 3pm games almost always on Setanta Sports 1 .. Highlights on Setanta Ireland so they won't be in HD on sky at least.


  • #2069
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    25euro pm for HD option now.is this a new thing as I have not seen it before.

    25 euro per month is saucy enough .
    I'm on the 99 euro deal for 12 months until December but there is no way I am paying full whack when that expires.
    Then again I havent paid full whack in years but I suspect the reduced price monthly offers will be harder to get now .


  • #2070
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    irishfeen wrote: »
    No 3pm games almost always on Setanta Sports 1 .. Highlights on Setanta Ireland so they won't be in HD on sky at least.

    Always MOTD on BBC One HD if that's a problem. There's very little live sport on Setanta Ireland now that isn't available somewhere else.


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  • #2071
    Tugboats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Got offered 12 months for 155 quid. Think I will keep paying 9.99 for as long as possible instead


  • #2072
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Seems a deal has yet to be done with UPC for BT Sport Europe. Slightly worrying, though worth noting that Setanta and UPC only did a deal for BT Sport originally the night before it launched (and ESPN was I think a week or two after it launched).


  • #2073
    Joo0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭Joo0


    icdg wrote: »
    Seems a deal has yet to be done with UPC for BT Sport Europe. Slightly worrying, though worth noting that Setanta and UPC only did a deal for BT Sport originally the night before it launched (and ESPN was I think a week or two after it launched).

    I'm sure they will agree a deal soon. After the close connection between Setanta and UPC in the past I wouldn't have expected it to take this long. I can see a price increase for the setanta pack on UPC coming up very soon!


  • #2074
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    icdg wrote: »
    Seems a deal has yet to be done with UPC for BT Sport Europe. Slightly worrying, though worth noting that Setanta and UPC only did a deal for BT Sport originally the night before it launched (and ESPN was I think a week or two after it launched).

    As far as I know, BT Sport Europe is not yet on the Sky ROI EPG, it's just on the UK one


  • #2075
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    mackersdublin wrote: »
    As far as I know, BT Sport Europe is not yet on the Sky ROI EPG, it's just on the UK one
    They are currently playing promos on loop on BT Sport Europe across the UK with British phone numbers given out ... It will appear when the channel goes live, no point in broadcasting it here with British phone details.


  • #2076
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Setanta have already confirmed it will be on the Irish EPG from Saturday.


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  • #2077
    mikeym
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    icdg wrote: »
    Seems a deal has yet to be done with UPC for BT Sport Europe. Slightly worrying, though worth noting that Setanta and UPC only did a deal for BT Sport originally the night before it launched (and ESPN was I think a week or two after it launched).

    From what Setanta are saying on their Facebook page, the ball seems to be in UPC's court.


  • #2078
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    BT getting ready for the Champions League! - BT confirming that all 7 extra channels will be in SD only on sky :(

    11.082 H SR 22000 FEC 5/6 DVB-S QPSK
    BT Sport Extra 1

    11.344 H SR 27500 FEC 2/3 DVB-S QPSK
    53220: BT Sport Extra 2
    53230: BT Sport Extra 3
    53240: BT Sport Extra 4
    53250: BT Sport Extra 5
    53260: BT Sport Extra 6


  • #2079
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,533 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    An interesting article here about BT Sport UHD service with people's older 4K TV sets.

    http://www.whathifi.com/news/bt-ultra-hd-wont-support-older-4k-tvs-and-amps


  • #2080
    Brian017
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭Brian017


    Will CL games be on BTS1&2 too as well as this new channels?

    While no HD on the BTS Extra channels is a disappointment, Sky's 'Match Choice' service wasn't in HD either so it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise. If some games were on BTS 1&2 as well as Europe at least we wouldn't be getting less games in HD


  • #2081
    sigmundv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭sigmundv


    irishfeen wrote:
    BT getting ready for the Champions League! - BT confirming that all 7 extra channels will be in SD only on sky


    Just be happy you get it on satellite. It was always going to be like this, and it's no downgrade from Sky. If HD picture is important to you, get yourself a middle eastern provider.


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  • #2082
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    AFAIK there will be games on the linear channels too, including Setanta Ireland and Setanta Sports 1. There's also meant to be a Redzone style live goals service on one of the linear BT channels.


  • #2083
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    Hi lads not sure if this is the right place to put this query, if not apologies. I have the Setanta pack with my current tv provider, Sky, I'm switching tv provider to UPC, what steps will I have to take in order to switch get my Setanta pack onto my UPC connection? Also are there any differences between the Setanta pack as it is on Sky and as it is on UPC?


  • #2084
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    You can't "move" your subscription per se, you have to cancel with Setanta directly. When you are subscribing to UPC you can then request them to add the Setanta pack. There are a few differences:

    - On UPC, Setanta Ireland is included in your basic subscription (and Setanta Ireland HD if you have either Horizon or the "old" HD pack - as a new subscriber I think you have to take a Horizon pack).
    - The subscription price is cheaper (for the moment) - it only covers 4 channels instead of 6.
    - There is no red button/ BT Sport Extra.
    - There is, for the moment, no BT Sport Europe.

    An option available to you, if you're keeping your dish and box (and I recommend you at least keep the dish - there are many free to air satellite channels not available on UPC) is to continue to subscribe to Setanta via satellite instead of via UPC. It's more expensive, but you won't miss anything because it's on BT Sport Europe or BT Sport Extra, and you'll still get Setanta Ireland HD on your UPC Horizon package.


  • #2085
    mikeym
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Bt Sport Europe now on the Sky Epg Ch414 & Ch433.

    FTV at the moment.


  • #2086
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    So in all probability we will have two Champions League matches in HD on sky during the group stages as its almost certain the same game will be on the Irish channels as BT... I wonder will there be a game on Setanta Sports 1 HD (this would leave viewers in the UK blank)

    On a given game night we will have -

    TV3 HD/RTÉ2 HD
    BT Sport 2 HD
    BT Sport Europe HD
    Setanta Sports 1 HD ??
    Setanta Sports Ireland (SD)
    BT Sport Extra 1,2,3,4,5,6 (SD)


  • #2087
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    irishfeen wrote: »
    i wonder will there be a game on Setanta Sports 1 HD (this would leave viewers in the UK blank)

    There has been in previous seasons during the group stages, so obviously it's not too much of a concern.


  • #2088
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    icdg wrote: »
    There has been in previous seasons during the group stages, so obviously it's not too much of a concern.
    I hope you are right!... it would be great to have one more game3 in HD as BT Sport Extra HD is not available to us.


  • #2089
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Just looking at Setanta/BT on the sky EPG - simply put its an awful mess - with the HD pack....

    413 - BT Sport 1
    414 - BT Sport Europe
    415 - At The Races
    417 - BT Sport 2
    418 - MUTV
    419 - Extreme Sports
    421 - Chelsea TV HD
    422 - Chelsea TV
    423 - Setanta Ireland
    424 - Setanta Sports 1
    426 - BT Sport ESPN
    427 - BT Sport 1 HD
    433 - BT Sport Eur HD
    457 - BT Sport 2 HD
    458 - BT Sport ESPN HD
    460 - Setanta HD


  • #2090
    ftakeith
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Just looking at Setanta/BT on the sky EPG - simply put its an awful mess - with the HD pack....

    413 - BT Sport 1
    414 - BT Sport Europe
    415 - At The Races
    417 - BT Sport 2
    418 - MUTV
    419 - Extreme Sports
    421 - Chelsea TV HD
    422 - Chelsea TV
    423 - Setanta Ireland
    424 - Setanta Sports 1
    426 - BT Sport ESPN
    427 - BT Sport 1 HD
    433 - BT Sport Eur HD
    457 - BT Sport 2 HD
    458 - BT Sport ESPN HD
    460 - Setanta HD

    I have the hd setanta pack in hd

    and I have them in my sky favourites
    no mess for me


  • #2091
    batistuta9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    6 more BT fixtures out. Liverpool, Chelsea & Tottenham in twice each.
    https://sport.bt.com/sport-football/news/bt-sport-reveals-new-round-of-televised-premier-league-games-S11363995007679
    On the channel orders above, is that only if you've a sky HD sub too?
    I've only setanta & I get all the BT HD channels as the lower numbers


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  • #2092
    ftakeith
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    6 more BT fixtures out. Liverpool, Chelsea & Tottenham in twice each.
    https://sport.bt.com/sport-football/news/bt-sport-reveals-new-round-of-televised-premier-league-games-S11363995007679
    On the channel orders above, is that only if you've a sky HD sub too?
    I've only setanta & I get all the BT HD channels as the lower numbers

    sky hd sub does not appy to setanta
    you may have the full annual package like I

    I prefer the setanta sports channels to sky sports


  • #2093
    batistuta9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    ftakeith wrote: »
    sky hd sub does not appy to setanta
    you may have the full annual package like I

    I prefer the setanta sports channels to sky sports

    I have setanta only. Though with me 413 is BT sport 1 HD, etc.

    I'm asking why he's on about a mess


  • #2094
    Joo0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭Joo0


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Just looking at Setanta/BT on the sky EPG - simply put its an awful mess - with the HD pack....

    413 - BT Sport 1
    414 - BT Sport Europe
    415 - At The Races
    417 - BT Sport 2
    418 - MUTV
    419 - Extreme Sports
    421 - Chelsea TV HD
    422 - Chelsea TV
    423 - Setanta Ireland
    424 - Setanta Sports 1
    426 - BT Sport ESPN
    427 - BT Sport 1 HD
    433 - BT Sport Eur HD
    457 - BT Sport 2 HD
    458 - BT Sport ESPN HD
    460 - Setanta HD
    Really out of place. The UPC sports layout is better


  • #2095
    ftakeith
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/real-madrid/11777617/Barcelona-and-Real-Madrid-broadcast-rights-close-to-moving-to-BT-Sport-from-Sky-Sports.html

    la liga maybe coming to bt


  • #2096
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    If BT win La Liga rights sky are in trouble... It will be a clear sign they massively overpaid for Premier League rights and this would be a massive body blow... Losing Champions League & La Liga rights would be an astonishing turn of events for sky.


  • #2097
    Strawberry HillBilly
    Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭Strawberry HillBilly


    BT Europe now showing CL final highlights with a sky sports news / ticker tape style looping news.


  • #2098
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It's a very big blow if true - La Liga is a Sunday night staple in pubs up and down the country. Surely Sky would have to consider whether there is any point to keeping Sky Sports 5 going.


  • #2099
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    icdg wrote: »
    It's a very big blow if true - La Liga is a Sunday night staple in pubs up and down the country. Surely Sky would have to consider whether there is any point to keeping Sky Sports 5 going.
    You would honestly have to think SS5 (and maybe even more) would go and they will have to drop the cost of subscriptions.


  • #2100
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    irishfeen wrote: »
    You would honestly have to think SS5 (and maybe even more) would go and they will have to drop the cost of subscriptions.

    Sky hemorrhaging content would justify a price reduction.

    However, they keep throwing more billions at the premiership..... I doubt an across the board price drop will happen. (Perhaps for pubs, but not domestic).


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  • #2101
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Sky hemorrhaging content would justify a price reduction.

    However, they keep throwing more billions at the premiership..... I doubt an across the board price drop will happen. (Perhaps for pubs, but not domestic).
    It was a brilliant PL auction for BT when you think back ... They secure 40 odd games of good quality, they force sky to spend billions and billions which borders on absolute ridiculous, it has curtailed sky's ability to purchase other rights simply because they can't take more risk and BT starts hoovering up more and more quality rights from sky.

    They are obviously been run exceptionally well from the top down.


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