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Aer Lingus is worst airline

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    It's still a service. So I would imagine you'd at least expect good customer service. Also, if you use your iPhone for the entire trip, you must not be flying very far. Anybody notice how Aer Lingus now hustle the sh!t out of passengers. There's announcements and offers all throughout the flights, at least on trans Atlantic

    My longest flight was 5h 30mins, I used my iPhone the two hours beforehand in the airport, on the flight and even the 1hr 30 minute drive to my destination after the flight, not that we were discussing battery life on iPhones. The customer service was good on most flights, had my ups and downs on several airlines but it really doesn't bother me, we all have our bad days in work, we are only human


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    It's still a service. So I would imagine you'd at least expect good customer service. Also, if you use your iPhone for the entire trip, you must not be flying very far. Anybody notice how Aer Lingus now hustle the sh!t out of passengers. There's announcements and offers all throughout the flights, at least on trans Atlantic

    What kind of announcements? I have flown several times to America with them and the only one I can think of is the Unicef charity envelope which you can fill with all all currencies and they collect it at the end of the flight. The other one is Sky Shopping which is duty free and 99% of people ignore that anyway. Apart from that, nothing..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    [-0-] wrote: »
    Aer Lingus are actually my favourite airline. I fly with them every time I'm going to America. Loads of room, great service, great food. Most importantly, the planes are really well looked after. You can barely feel the plane take off and land.

    I'm curious, seems like you've inside knowledge of airlines that do not maintain their aircraft up to standards, do you mind saying who it is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    You got a gift of a flight up to 500 euro and you can't figure how to spend it? And you're calling your friends stupid for getting it for you?

    Life really isn't fair.

    Really though, the Aer Lingus vouchers are the most retarded vouchers I've ever seen.

    http://www.aerlingus.com/i18n/en/htmlPopups/voucher_terms_and_conditions.html
    Vouchers can only be redeemed against bookings in the currency of issue.

    So make sure you buy it in the currency of the airport the person will be departing from, otherwise they cannot use it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    solerina wrote: »
    I currently hate Aer Lingus too...recently got a gift voucher (from well meaning, but ultimately stupid friends)....its for 500 euro and is in my name. However I rarely (if ever) fly aerlingus...as they don't tend to fly where I want to go, or if they do they are way more expensive than the alternatives. So now I am stuck trying to figure out how to use this voucher which expires in 10 months (oh yes, 1 year validity...another reason to hate them)..and your name must be on the ticket, my sister did spend enough on flights last week and we tried to use the voucher but as my name wasn't on the booking....no joy !!! Disaster..their voucher system needs to be more user friendly

    Ehhh....am I hallucinating? Did I really just read that? :eek:


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Everly Puny Numskull


    Yeah if I got a 500 euro flight voucher
    I tell ya
    be sorted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    To be honest, have always received very good service from the aer lingus staff, my only issues have been on return legs with non- air lingus staff manning their desks and doing a poor job of it, with massive queues and confusion aplenty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Yeah if I got a 500 euro flight voucher
    I tell ya
    be sorted

    He's not ungreatful with the voucher, its with the terms and conditions, if you live in the UK and buy a voucher from Aer Lingus its in Sterling, you are only allowed to book a flight from the UK or NI in sterling with them, you can't book from LHR to DUB and then DUB to JFK for example, it has to be all in one return flight. They also wont let you use the voucher for someone else, it has to be flights in the name of the voucher, very silly rules to be honest.




  • billie1b wrote: »
    He's not ungreatful with the voucher, its with the terms and conditions, if you live in the UK and buy a voucher from Aer Lingus its in Sterling, you are only allowed to book a flight from the UK or NI in sterling with them, you can't book from LHR to DUB and then DUB to JFK for example, it has to be all in one return flight. They also wont let you use the voucher for someone else, it has to be flights in the name of the voucher, very silly rules to be honest.

    The voucher isn't in sterling though. The complaint is that Aer Lingus don't fly where s/he wants to go (they fly to loads of destinations!) and s/he can't think of anywhere to go in the next 10 months. Rules are a bit restrictive alright, but it's hardly a sh1te present. I'd be delighted with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    I've always flown Aer Lingus and always found them excellent but something happened on a flight back from Spain back in June that disgusted me.

    Our seats were aisle seats; my partner's was (for example) BC and my seat was the aisle seat directly across from him (say BD). So our seats were both aisle seats and we were beside each other, separated by the aisle.

    So anyway, we boarded the plane and there was a woman with no legs sitting in my partner's seat. There was an empty seat beside her in the middle, and her husband was sitting in the window seat.

    Of course, my partner said nothing to her and he was sidling in to sit in the middle seat. He's a big fella but he wasn't going to object to the woman needing the aisle seat and he didn't mind sitting in the middle.

    As he was sitting down, a steward said to him "Can I see your ticket, sir?" and he handed it over. The steward said to the woman "Sorry madam, you're actually sitting in this gents' seat, could you move into the middle seat?"
    My partner said "No, no it's OK, I'll sit here, it's fine."

    The steward said "No, sir, everyone must sit in their assigned seat."
    The woman said "My husband and I actually paid for the extra-leg room seats right in front of these seats but there are people sitting in those, so we're sitting here."

    The steward proceeded to shake his head and said "Look, we're running behind now, you have to move into your seat now."

    The husband piped up "My wife, as you can see, is disabled. There are people in sitting in the seats we PAID for and you won't move them for some reason, so we're sitting here. This man", he gestured to my partner, "doesn't mind sitting in the middle, he's said so. I have to physically lift my wife into a seat and I am not doing it here and now in front of everyone. Give her some dignity."

    To cut a long story short, the steward wasn't having any of it and he argued loudly with the husband in front of everyone.

    The poor man was close to tears and the wife was so embarrassed.
    My partner was told he had to sit in his seat so he did, after the husband lifted his wife.

    The husband threatened to sue Aer Lingus and the steward said "Do that, sir, but maybe after we land, eh?"
    Everyone in earshot was disgusted.

    The people in front, the ones sitting in that woman's seat, ignored the whole conversation too, which was awful.

    The steward came round an hour later with complimentary drinks for the woman and her husband but I'll tell you what, the way they treated that woman and her husband was absolutely dispicable and if they could treat a disabled woman like that, it makes me wonder where the buck stops.

    Sorry for the length of this story, but just wanted to share my experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭branie


    fussyonion wrote: »
    I've always flown Aer Lingus and always found them excellent but something happened on a flight back from Spain back in June that disgusted me.

    Our seats were aisle seats; my partner's was (for example) BC and my seat was the aisle seat directly across from him (say BD). So our seats were both aisle seats and we were beside each other, separated by the aisle.

    So anyway, we boarded the plane and there was a woman with no legs sitting in my partner's seat. There was an empty seat beside her in the middle, and her husband was sitting in the window seat.

    Of course, my partner said nothing to her and he was sidling in to sit in the middle seat. He's a big fella but he wasn't going to object to the woman needing the aisle seat and he didn't mind sitting in the middle.

    As he was sitting down, a steward said to him "Can I see your ticket, sir?" and he handed it over. The steward said to the woman "Sorry madam, you're actually sitting in this gents' seat, could you move into the middle seat?"
    My partner said "No, no it's OK, I'll sit here, it's fine."

    The steward said "No, sir, everyone must sit in their assigned seat."
    The woman said "My husband and I actually paid for the extra-leg room seats right in front of these seats but there are people sitting in those, so we're sitting here."

    The steward proceeded to shake his head and said "Look, we're running behind now, you have to move into your seat now."

    The husband piped up "My wife, as you can see, is disabled. There are people in sitting in the seats we PAID for and you won't move them for some reason, so we're sitting here. This man", he gestured to my partner, "doesn't mind sitting in the middle, he's said so. I have to physically lift my wife into a seat and I am not doing it here and now in front of everyone. Give her some dignity."

    To cut a long story short, the steward wasn't having any of it and he argued loudly with the husband in front of everyone.

    The poor man was close to tears and the wife was so embarrassed.
    My partner was told he had to sit in his seat so he did, after the husband lifted his wife.

    The husband threatened to sue Aer Lingus and the steward said "Do that, sir, but maybe after we land, eh?"
    Everyone in earshot was disgusted.

    The people in front, the ones sitting in that woman's seat, ignored the whole conversation too, which was awful.

    The steward came round an hour later with complimentary drinks for the woman and her husband but I'll tell you what, the way they treated that woman and her husband was absolutely dispicable and if they could treat a disabled woman like that, it makes me wonder where the buck stops.

    Sorry for the length of this story, but just wanted to share my experience.

    You'd expect that sort of attitude from Ryanair staff before Michael O'Leary's promise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    branie wrote: »
    You'd expect that sort of attitude from Ryanair staff before Michael O'Leary's promise.

    Ridiculous comment!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 rodie1990


    Flew Aer Lingus plenty of times, they're grand. Except when you miss a connecting flight and have to stand at their desk in LHR for 7 hours straight before being put on a later flight. Not cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,344 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    I don't think AerLingus is that bad, I've flown with them a lot and they aren't bad they offer a better service despite delays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,003 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    What's the secret in getting from T2 To T1 for a smoke?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    What's the secret in getting from T2 To T1 for a smoke?

    You need to head towards the gates that start at 400. You can get to them from the Slaney Bar in T2.
    Walk down, following the signs for gates marked 400 and keep walking..you'll notice it all looks very deserted with an escalator that only goes one way-down.

    Keep walking, stay left and eventually you will be in T1, on the main shopping street.
    Keep going until you see the bar upstairs on the mezzanine level. You can smoke in the bar's beer garden.

    It took me fifteen mins to walk it and I thought I was lost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,003 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    fussyonion wrote: »
    You need to head towards the gates that start at 400. You can get to them from the Slaney Bar in T2.
    Walk down, following the signs for gates marked 400 and keep walking..you'll notice it all looks very deserted with an escalator that only goes one way-down.

    Keep walking, stay left and eventually you will be in T1, on the main shopping street.
    Keep going until you see the bar upstairs on the mezzanine level. You can smoke in the bar's beer garden.

    It took me fifteen mins to walk it and I thought I was lost.

    Thanks for that.

    So there are NO signs indicating access from T1 to T2? That must be to keep people in T2 and spending there!

    It's not easy is it? But if I have time next time I'm in T2 I'll definitely have a go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,003 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    BTW Aer Lingus is fine. I always use them where possible, loved that I could hike my handbag/laptop bag along with the hand luggage wheelie.

    That was verboten on Ryanair, although I see that we can now add a wine bag..., but no handbag or laptop bag...doh!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭[-0-]


    billie1b wrote: »
    I'm curious, seems like you've inside knowledge of airlines that do not maintain their aircraft up to standards, do you mind saying who it is?

    You jumped to that conclusion all by your self.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    This post has been deleted.

    Edit: removed comment as smoking already covered, I see...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Certainly not the worst, but definetly an over rated airline as far as Dublin to Europe flights are concerned. Find them no better than ryanair. In fact their lax enforcement of hand luggage size is a big turnoff. When people are let on with huge hand luggage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭branie


    Certainly not the worst, but definetly an over rated airline as far as Dublin to Europe flights are concerned. Find them no better than ryanair. In fact their lax enforcement of hand luggage size is a big turnoff. When people are let on with huge hand luggage.

    The fines for oversize hand luggage at Ryanair was one of the reasons why the airline was so unpopular until recently


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 969 ✭✭✭JacquesDeLad


    First world problems.

    The fake leather is fraying in some of the older 737s and I swear some of the cabin crew are wearing JOOP these days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭jjbrien


    Just got off a Aer Lingus flight from Chicago yesterday from our experince of flying long haul which is supposed to be Aer Lingus best product. Having flown united, British Airways, Air Transit and Amercian. Id have to rank them behind them. They are a little better than US Airways. The other airlines come around with water and juice once an hour Aer Lingus dont. The seats are less padded than the other airlines and their in flight entertainment system you almost have to punch to get it to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    branie wrote: »
    The fines for oversize hand luggage at Ryanair was one of the reasons why the airline was so unpopular until recently

    80 million pax would disagree with you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Certainly not the worst, but definetly an over rated airline as far as Dublin to Europe flights are concerned. Find them no better than ryanair. In fact their lax enforcement of hand luggage size is a big turnoff. When people are let on with huge hand luggage.

    That is annoying when you go to the trouble of getting the right size hand luggage. And the people with oversized take ages to carry it through the plane and find storage in the lockers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Re Ryan air
    You pay your money, get on the plane and arrive at your destination. How is that a con?

    You pay money Then add any number of ' additional charges'
    You get on the plane to sit on some of the most shocking worn seats I have ever experienced on any airline
    You arrive at your destination that ' may be' somewhere near a country/place/city where you wish to go to but then have to fork out more money to get to using another form of transport ...

    My big issue with RA is that they have caused a race to the bottom ... that unfortunately other airlines have had to copy to stay in the market

    Note to Aer Lingus - stop copying RA cattle class model and trying to beat them at this - it's a wrong move ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    gozunda wrote: »
    Re Ryan air



    You pay money Then add any number of ' additional charges'
    You get on the plane to sit on some of the most shocking worn seats I have ever experienced on any airline
    You arrive at your destination that ' may be' somewhere near a country/place/city where you wish to go to but then have to fork out more money to get to using another form of transport ...

    My big issue with RA is that they have caused a race to the bottom for standards in safety and comfort that unfortunately other airlines have had to copy to stay in the market

    Note to Aer Lingus - stop copying RA cattle class model and trying to beat them at this - it's a wrong move ...

    Here we go again with a totally uneducated comment, Ryanair have a 100% safety record, you can't beat the facts, the pilots are trained to the same standards as any other Irish airline, the whole arriving in the middle of nowhere is a myth and it has the newest fleet of aircraft in Europe that are well maintained


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    billie1b wrote: »
    Here we go again with a totally uneducated comment, Ryanair have a 100% safety record, you can't beat the facts, the pilots are trained to the same standards as any other Irish airline, the whole arriving in the middle of nowhere is a myth and it has the newest fleet of aircraft in Europe that are well maintained

    Yes Micheal :D
    As to arriving in the middle if nowhere and then paying for additional transport
    This is from from (their) own website
    - an example.

    "Paris-Beauvais Airport Shuttle
    "Beauvais Airport is located approximately 85 Km from the centre of Paris. There is no rail service from the airport but there is a bus service. Journey time is approximately 1 hour 15 mins. Cost is €15.00.

    http://www.ryanair.com/ie/flights-to-paris-beauvais/


    Uneducated do I need a PhD to experience these things?? Do note these are personal experience of all of the above. .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    gozunda wrote: »
    Yes Micheal :D

    Uneducated?? Do note these are personal experience of all of the above. The recent outing by a senior RA pilot and near misses due to minimum fuel has left no doubt in my mind of what the truth on this is.

    Tell us what happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    gozunda wrote: »
    Yes Micheal :D

    Uneducated?? Do note these are personal experience of all of the above. The recent outing by a senior RA pilot and near misses due to minimum fuel has left no doubt in my mind of what the truth on RA race to the bottom.

    What near misses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    gozunda wrote: »
    Yes Micheal :D

    Note: personal experience of all of the above. The recent outing by a senior RA pilot and neAr misses due to minimum fuel has left no doubt in my mind of what the truth on this is.

    Yet again your believing a rag journalism programme that make their money on gutter programmes that rarely portray the truth. What about the 11 other airlines that declared emegencies that night in Spain including an Aer Lingus one, I suppose it wasn't ATC fault because they gave the Spanish airlines priority landing over everyone else and the lack of comminication with them. What about the Aer Lingus flight that declared a fuel emergency the other night over Dublin after only holding for 30 minutes? The Aer Lingus A330 that engine failed on take-off in LAX and then a few weeks later the same thing happened again, the fire in the Aer Lingus aircraft cabin on the ramp of Dublin airport caus the staff left the oven on. It was proven that all 3 FR planes had sufficient fuel but dont let them facts get in your way of a good story for yourself


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    billie1b wrote: »
    Here we go again with a totally uneducated comment, Ryanair have a 100% safety record, you can't beat the facts, the pilots are trained to the same standards as any other Irish airline, the whole arriving in the middle of nowhere is a myth and it has the newest fleet of aircraft in Europe that are well maintained

    Some airports in fairness are a bit out of the way and when you factor in bus/train costs and the inconvenience of it, sometimes Ryanair isn't the best option. But people should know all this before they make a booking.

    I flipping HATE the colour scheme, decor and overall look of Ryanair planes. I know that doesn't matter so long as they are safe and fit for purpose, but they look so tacky and cheap, it really doesn't help with the impression people have of them (or maybe it does, maybe they want to be seen as cheap). And the uniforms of the flight attendants are really awful too- I know it's not exactly the most glamorous job in the world but the women in particular must feel like $hite wearing those disgusting things.

    I find the staff so much nicer and so much more efficient with Aer Lingus and I just prefer the general overall experience with them. But if Ryanair gets me there cheaply, safely and on time, I'm happy to go with them. It is what it is with Ryanair, you know what you're getting. I just definitely prefer to fly Aer Lingus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    Meangadh wrote: »
    Some airports in fairness are a bit out of the way and when you factor in bus/train costs and the inconvenience of it, sometimes Ryanair isn't the best option. But people should know all this before they make a booking.

    I flipping HATE the colour scheme, decor and overall look of Ryanair planes. I know that doesn't matter so long as they are safe and fit for purpose, but they look so tacky and cheap, it really doesn't help with the impression people have of them (or maybe it does, maybe they want to be seen as cheap). And the uniforms of the flight attendants are really awful too- I know it's not exactly the most glamorous job in the world but the women in particular must feel like $hite wearing those disgusting things.

    I find the staff so much nicer and so much more efficient with Aer Lingus and I just prefer the general overall experience with them. But if Ryanair gets me there cheaply, safely and on time, I'm happy to go with them. It is what it is with Ryanair, you know what you're getting. I just definitely prefer to fly Aer Lingus.

    Yes the colour is disgusting, especially the interior, its only a handful of destinations that are out of the way but some people prefer this as it can suit them better, just personal preference, I dont mind either airline, fly with both but it peeves me when people go on about Ryanair being unsafe when its one of the safest airlines in Europe, if not the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    I'm looking at flights from dublin to gatwick in August for myself and the family.

    Ryanair €509.90

    Aer Lingus €604.90

    Thanks Mick - there's 95 notes in my arse pocket straightaway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    mfceiling wrote: »
    I'm looking at flights from dublin to gatwick in August for myself and the family.

    Ryanair €509.90

    Aer Lingus €604.90

    Thanks Mick - there's 95 notes in my arse pocket straightaway.

    That sounds extremely expensive just going from Dublin to Gatwick, how many are in your family?? Even for 4 people that sounds a hell of a lot- are you sure you got that right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    billie1b wrote: »
    .... the whole arriving in the middle of nowhere is a myth
    billie1b wrote: »
    ....its only a handful of destinations that are out of the way but some people prefer this as it can suit them better, just personal preference, ....

    Well which is it? a myth or fact? cant have both you know. Personally I don't know of anyone who prefers to be dumped somewhere nowhere near where you want to go.

    As for personal preference similar scenario:
    John hails taxi for Galway city centre. Taximan: Na I can only drop you in Salthill. John goes finds another taxi.

    At least the Taximan doesn't fudge the issue and call it Galyway_Salthill... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    gozunda wrote: »
    Well which is it? a myth or fact? cant have both you know. Personally I don't know of anyone who prefers to be dumped somewhere nowhere near where you want to go.

    As for personal preference similar scenario:
    John hails taxi for Galway city centre. Taximan: Na I can only drop you in Salthill. John goes finds another taxi.

    At least the Taximan doesn't fudge the issue and call it Galyway_Salthill... :rolleyes:

    So after giving out about safety and other issues the only thing you can come back to is a destination issue, your gonna have to try harder, everyone knows that Paris BVA, Brussels CRL and the likes are between 45mins to an hour away from the city centre but yet the flights are still full all the time, your gonna have to come up with something better to be honest


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    That sounds extremely expensive just going from Dublin to Gatwick, how many are in your family?? Even for 4 people that sounds a hell of a lot- are you sure you got that right?

    2 adults and 3 kids...

    50.90 per person, per leg of journey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    billie1b wrote: »
    So after giving out about safety and other issues the only thing you can come back to is a destination issue, your gonna have to try harder, everyone knows that Paris BVA, Brussels CRL and the likes are between 45mins to an hour away from the city centre but yet the flights are still full all the time, your gonna have to come up with something better to be honest

    Yes and one of the main 'issues" was destinations - of which you have given the two conflicting statements detailed above. You didn't answer the question I then asked. Please do. The contents of your posts are more like PR statements from RA to be honest ;)

    Take "Paris" Beauvais" for example

    "Paris-Beauvais Airport Shuttle
    "Beauvais Airport is located approximately 85 Km from the centre of Paris. There is no rail service from the airport but there is a bus service. Journey time is approximately 1 hour 15 mins. Cost is €15.00.

    http://www.ryanair.com/ie/flights-to-paris-beauvais/

    That's 1 hour 15 minutes - "Approximately" (not 45 minutes) In total that's is €30 euro + additional metro fares to get where you are going. Making it definitely not a cheap or low fare option in my opinion. And yes I have witnessed passengers who booked and because it was labelled "Paris" thought they were actually landing in Paris....


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭Midnight Shadow


    I think we all harbour some romantic idea that travel by air should be "luxurious" in some way....however the airline companies see it as "how many punters can we stuff into a metal tube, as quickly as possible....drop them to their destination...and stuff the tube again asap with more punters". Alas, the days of customer-centred air travel are all but gone for the majority of us.

    As airline companies go.. I think Aer Lingus in general try to give a good service...I have had only good experiences with them.

    Ryanair on the other hand......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭billie1b


    gozunda wrote: »
    Yes and one of the main 'issues" was destinations - of which you have given the two conflicting statements detailed above. You didn't answer the question I then asked. Please do. The contents of your posts are more like PR statements from RA to be honest ;)

    I didnt give any conflicting 'statements', you said on you get on the plane and arrive near the city, country or area blah blah blah closo to where you want to go and then have to pay for the follow on journey to the city, its true but its only true for a number of destinations that are actually further away. Saying it happens on all flights is a myth, name one Airport that you dont have to pay for travel into the city after arrival with any airline?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Ryanair are usually cheaper than Aer Lingus but not always, especially for flights booked last minute.

    For example, current live one-way Euro prices on the Dublin-Gatwick route:

    2nd Jan: 158 Ryanair, 139 Aer Lingus
    3rd Jan: 189 Ryanair, 129 Aer Lingus.
    4th Jan: 158 Ryanair, 133 Aer Lingus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭COYW


    For short haul (< 2 hours) I chose Ryanair. I am just interested in getting there as quickly as possible. The Aer Lingus (Zone) boarding system, gets on my nerves and they make no effort to make up time when they are late. For a longer flight I will generally fly with Aer Lingus, as I am not too bothered by slow boarding etc.

    Terminal wise give me T2 any day. It takes an age to get from the security, which is atrocious in Dublin airport, to your gate.

    I see Aer Lingus are advertising a new super duper sale for April flights. Looking at flights to the States here and I see no reduction in price.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    gozunda wrote: »
    Re Ryan air

    You pay money Then add any number of ' additional charges'
    You get on the plane to sit on some of the most shocking worn seats I have ever experienced on any airline
    You arrive at your destination that ' may be' somewhere near a country/place/city where you wish to go to but then have to fork out more money to get to using another form of transport ...

    My big issue with RA is that they have caused a race to the bottom for standards in safety and comfort that unfortunately other airlines have had to copy to stay in the market

    Note to Aer Lingus - stop copying RA cattle class model and trying to beat them at this - it's a wrong move ...
    I've never experienced these 'additional charges' though, apart from the one time I left my boarding pass at home when I left in a rush. It was an exorbitant charge to print a piece of paper (€40 or €60, can't remember?) but that's how they operate - give you a cheap fare but make you pay dearly for any errors you've made. What kind of charges are you referring to?

    The destinations argument is silly - if they don't fly to the city you are going to, then just don't use them!

    And I find their seating a little cramped but not particularly uncomfortable (at 5'11, standard build and 27y/o but with stiff knees). I'm not expecting luxury, I'm expecting affordability - it's the same reason I don't complain about the bus not being as comfortable as a taxi.

    I haven't flown Aer Lingus in a good five years mind, but that's because I tend to find them more expensive than the likes of Delta to the US, who offer a better experience in my opinion, and they are far more expensive than Etihad to Australia (who offer an far, far better service). On shorter flights in particular I only really look at cost - and so they're way out of the market within the EU.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭robertxxx


    Aer lingus are good it the dreadfully designed €800million T2 they fly from that's the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Gozunda you do know that London Gatwick is the same airport for Ryanair as well as the other airlines?

    You do know that Ryanair fly to a closer airport to the centre of Rome than Aer Lingus do.

    You do know that Barcelona El Prat is used by both Ryanair and Aer Lingus?

    You do know that on the majority of times and dates you will find that Ryanair will be cheaper than Aer Lingus? You do know that Ryanair have an exemplary safety record? You do know that Ryanair have the youngest aircraft fleet in Europe?

    They're not that bad you know;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    COYW wrote: »
    I see Aer Lingus are advertising a new super duper sale for April flights. Looking at flights to the States here and I see no reduction in price.
    This actually reminds me, not sure if it is still the case or not, but in 2008 it cost about €40 more to book a NYC --> Dublin flight from Ireland than it did to book it from the US (their website picked up on your location). As in, for the exact same economy ticket, on the exact same flight. That did leave me quite unimpressed.


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