So... the PSP...

Andy!! · 19-04-2012 7:31pm #1

I used to have a naughty PSP but then ironically a very naughty person lifted it when I was burgled

I am now looking to get myself another one. I would go for a PSP Go but of course no removable battery, no custom firmware! I was looking at a PSP Street but I was talking to a guy in gamestop today and he said that it didn't feature WiFi or remote play. Now, because I am a good boy most of the time and only use naughty PSP's for ancient game emulation, I do have a lot of games bought off the PSN. I thought the PSP street lacked a UMD drive so that wouldn't affect me, but apparently not.

So, am I better off going with a Slim&Brite? Can the PSP 3000's have CFW put on them? Does the PSP feature a Brite screen? Could I transfer my PSN games to a street via a USB cable? Still not sure I could do without the wifi, I find I use that to validate the game licences (especially the free ones that you get on PS+ that need to be validated every so often).

The only reason I would go with a street to be honest is because I hate gross fingerprints (glossy casing, worst part about this generation of gaming!) but I guess I could go with a white S&L...

Thoughts? How many people are still using their PSP's these days? I played around with a Vita recently and found it fun, but the screen is surprisingly low res, and it ain't got enough games yet...

chin_grin · 19-04-2012 7:41pm

Still have my fat psp and it's as daycent as the day it came out. Also what in the high hell is a "naughty psp"? :pac:

Andy!! · 19-04-2012 7:47pm

One with custom firmware :P Have to be careful on here with what we can and cannot say, even if we genuinely have no intention of ripping off SONY or other games companies :P Hard to know what you can say on here sometimes.

bluestripe93 · 19-04-2012 7:48pm

Andy!! wrote: »

I would go for a PSP Go but of course no removable battery, no custom firmware!

PSP Go can have CFW, I've got it on my one but it's a temporary one and has to be re enabled each time it has been fully turned off, it stays in CFW if its turned off by leaving it in sleep mode though and stays in OFW until you re enable it, Its good for having all the games and stuff on the internal memory so no UMD's to anything to carry round too,

Andy!! · 19-04-2012 7:54pm

bluestripe93 wrote: »

PSP Go can have CFW, I've got it on my one but it's a temporary one and has to be re enabled each time it has been fully turned off

Yeah I was aware of that but I'm looking for full, perma-custom firmware

cherryghost · 19-04-2012 7:56pm

Andy!! wrote: »

Yeah I was aware of that but I'm looking for full, perma-custom firmware

Easy peasy! You do know there's a console modding forum?

SteelyDanJalapeno · 19-04-2012 7:58pm

Cant you buy a 2nd hand original PSP in Gamestop?

Mindkiller · 19-04-2012 8:15pm

Every PSP can have CFW put on it. Even E1000. But only 1000/2000/3000 can get 'permanent' cfw, the kind that stays on when you shut it down. LCFW is still a fairly painless process though. You no longer have to rely on awkward glitches with .tiff images or any of that crap.

thorbarry · 19-04-2012 8:40pm

i bought a second hand 1000 series for €40 on adverts and put custom firmware on it. Now all i do is play mario and zelda on it

Andy!! · 20-04-2012 4:10pm

Walked town today looking for a new slim&lite with no luck, would go for a street but will have to look into its CFW abilities still, not to mention the fact that I want to put games I've bought on PSN on it

Andy!! · 21-04-2012 10:00pm

Still no luck finding a new one, and today I saw my SECOND second hand PSP that had scratches all over the screen that wasn't advertised as such on adverts

Some people will try to get away with anything. Will keep searching

Mindkiller · 21-04-2012 10:57pm

Actually, I was wrong. You can install permanent cfw on any psp if the FW is 6.20 (which is what I'm rocking atm). And even if it isn't, you can downgrade just as easily as launching an app on your PSP. Just don't downgrade beyond factory firmware, or something.

btw, what's the battery thing about in the first post? Pandora's battery? You don't need those anymore.

Andy!! · 21-04-2012 11:56pm

Mindkiller wrote: »

Actually, I was wrong. You can install permanent cfw on any psp if the FW is 6.20 (which is what I'm rocking atm). And even if it isn't, you can downgrade just as easily as launching an app on your PSP. Just don't downgrade beyond factory firmware, or something.

btw, what's the battery thing about in the first post? Pandora's battery? You don't need those anymore.

Hmm, so I could do it on a street? Why are Pandora batteries not required anymore? Do streets have a brite screen I wonder? What firmware will most new streets carry out of the box typically? Will I be able to put a full proper cfw on it?

Thanks for the heads up Mindkiller.

wilser · 22-04-2012 11:32am

Andy!! wrote: »

Still no luck finding a new one, and today I saw my SECOND second hand PSP that had scratches all over the screen that wasn't advertised as such on adverts Some people will try to get away with anything. Will keep searching

Xtravision have a new psp in the square tallght for €80

Mindkiller · 22-04-2012 11:36am

Pandora batteries are not required anymore because installing CFW is simply a case of running an app on your PSP as if it were just a game. Installing CFW is about as elementary nowadays as installing OFW. What you want to look up is 6.20 pro-b10.

I think a 'street' (that's an E1000 I'm guessing) should be ok so long as it's 6.20. But I've no idea what FW it would have out of the box. You might be safer looking up pre-owned pspgos (can you still get those?). They have 16GB on board storage which is cool, but they can't use the pro-duo memory sticks the other models use. So it actually costs more to upgrade storage. Whereas with basic models you can get two micro sds and a pro duo adapter for next to nothing.

Streets don't have a brite screen, but they do have the improved refresh rate of the 3000 screen. So no annoying ghosting effects like you'd get on 1000 and 2000. The 'brite' screen on 3000s isn't all good anyway. Some games look a little oversaturated and 2d games can have visible scanlines. Some actually say that E1000 has the best screen as a result. It doesn't have wifi though, but I can't think of a time when I needed wifi. The PSP downloads really slowly (1Mb per sec I think). I just stick with mediago.

CFW psps work with mediago as well, for what it's worth. You might have to mess around with seplugins or something. I can't really remember what it was I did but I've no problem copying my PSN bought games over.

Andy!! · 22-04-2012 12:55pm

Bloody hell great post mindkiller! So you can get full proper CFW even on the go now? Should have waited then before getting rid of mine.

not sure I was crazy about the size and lack of umd though. Interesting about the street screen being better.

I might pop out to tallaght and see if they have PSPs too, thanks poster.

Are those dual micro sd adaptors you see on eBay any good? I wouldn't have thought so but mindkiller stated otherwise. What's the maximum size Id get away with putting in?

What's the difference between micro sd and micro sd HC? Will both types work?

Andy!! · 23-04-2012 10:24pm

Anyone? Gonna pick up card in the next day or two.

chrislad · 23-04-2012 11:27pm

All microSD cards bigger than 4gb are HC - stands for high capacity. You are different classes of cards (2, 4, 6 and 10) - the higher, the better in terms of read/write speed.

Mr E · 23-04-2012 11:30pm

This thread seems to be more about console modding than games, so off with you to the console modding forum.

Andy!! · 24-04-2012 12:13am

Nope, it's about the PSP in general, we've now moved on to what kind of storage the PSP accepts. So move it back please.

Mr E · 24-04-2012 8:06am

13 out of 21 posts were CFW/console modding related (including the majority of your OP), so I don't think so.

The guys in here are very knowledgeable, so you're in good hands.

Myrddin · 24-04-2012 8:58am

I've used those dual micro sd to pro duo adapters before, never had a problem with one.

cherryghost · 24-04-2012 11:37am

I have a 16GB, 32GB and 64GB microsd card. On the 64GB card I can get game launcher errors, so my guess is 32GB is the PSPs limit. Maybe more, who knows. If I had the dual one like Enternow I could test 48GB

Myrddin · 24-04-2012 12:09pm

cherryghost wrote: »

I have a 16GB, 32GB and 64GB microsd card. On the 64GB card I can get game launcher errors, so my guess is 32GB is the PSPs limit. Maybe more, who knows. If I had the dual one like Enternow I could test 48GB

Yeah I've heard before that anything over 32GB can be hit or miss. Best stick to x2 32GB OP. The one I got was a cheap as chips adapter from DX, never caused any problemos

Ross_Mahon · 24-04-2012 5:39pm

EnterNow wrote: »

I've used those dual micro sd to pro duo adapters before, never had a problem with one.

Where can buy these adapters and cheap micro SD?

Mindkiller · 24-04-2012 6:14pm

Amazon.co.uk or .com. Play.com have them too but I'm not sure if they ship them here.

The 16GB cards seem to have gotten a lot cheaper recently. The adapters are dirt cheap. The read speeds are slightly slower than 'normal' pro-duo cards but all that means is it takes a few seconds longer for the PSP to boot. Everything else is okily-dokily

Andy!! · 24-04-2012 7:22pm

What about video? I'm currently looking at getting 2 32GB 4 channel micro SD's and a suitable adaptor.

Myrddin · 24-04-2012 7:26pm

Andy!! wrote: »

What about video?

As far as I remember, there's a folder called VIDEO that will be on the root of your memory stick. You put videos in there & they will play via the XMB then. You may have to convert some videos though if they're not compatible

Andy!! · 24-04-2012 7:36pm

EnterNow wrote: »

As far as I remember, there's a folder called VIDEO that will be on the root of your memory stick. You put videos in there & they will play via the XMB then. You may have to convert some videos though if they're not compatible

Yah. But how is the performance running off a micro sd-adaptor. :pac:

Mindkiller · 24-04-2012 9:26pm

Video should be fine but PSP is crap for supporting video formats. I'm sure there's a way to get avi playing but I really don't think it's the type of device you want to be watching stuff on tbh. You have to 'hold' the screen, ugh..

cherryghost · 24-04-2012 10:51pm

Mindkiller wrote: »

Video should be fine but PSP is crap for supporting video formats. I'm sure there's a way to get avi playing but I really don't think it's the type of device you want to be watching stuff on tbh. You have to 'hold' the screen, ugh..

There's an AVI player for the PSP (supports Xvid and Divx), and PMPlayer plays MP4, MKV and FLV files

Andy!! · 24-04-2012 11:05pm

cherryghost wrote: »

Mindkiller wrote: »

Video should be fine but PSP is crap for supporting video formats. I'm sure there's a way to get avi playing but I really don't think it's the type of device you want to be watching stuff on tbh. You have to 'hold' the screen, ugh..

There's an AVI player for the PSP (supports Xvid and Divx), and PMPlayer plays MP4, MKV and FLV files

A mkv player for the PSP? Cool to know cheers.

Myrddin · 25-04-2012 11:42am

Andy!! wrote: »

Yah. But how is the performance running off a micro sd-adaptor. :pac:

Never had any issues with the sd-adaptor as I mentioned above, videos play just fine. The read speed thing had no noticeable impact for me

Hellrazer · 25-04-2012 7:37pm

Whats the latest CFW for the Psp?

Just picked one up on adverts for 20 euros--well Im supposed to be collecting in an hour or so.

Want to put a Snes/Megadrive/Gameboy emulator on it.

Can anyone point me in the right direction.

cherryghost · 25-04-2012 7:55pm

Hellrazer wrote: »

Whats the latest CFW for the Psp?

Just picked one up on adverts for 20 euros--well Im supposed to be collecting in an hour or so.

Want to put a Snes/Megadrive/Gameboy emulator on it.

Can anyone point me in the right direction.

6.60 is the latest. There's a Patapon 2 demo exploit that opens up the PSP for custom firmware. It's very handy compared to the old chickHEN trick. 6.60 PRO-B9 or B10 is the way to go in relation to CFW.

Hellrazer · 25-04-2012 7:58pm

Cheers for that Cheeryghost.Its been a while since I modded a Psp--a long while but with prices this cheap its gonna be handy for sitting round the pool on holidays

Would you know which are the best Emulators out these days??

Andy!! · 25-04-2012 9:29pm

Yeah but you don't even need paragon right? Just install pro b 10.

Make sure you check out the PSP properly, some feckers out there trying to get rid of damaged gear! Ended up buying mine new. I would also be interested in hearing about the best emulators these days, but I think the download section on pspbrew.com is a good place too

Mindkiller · 25-04-2012 9:52pm

Yeah, I don't think you need Patapon. I installed CFW on a 2000 and 3000 recently and it was just a case of having the right OFW and running it straight off.

SNES emulation is crap. Even with the newest emulations you almost always have to have frameskip at at least 1 so it's now much fun unless you use it as a go-between (copying save files back and forth) for a more competent emulator NES, GBA, PS1 etc seem fine. Haven't tried Mega Drive. N64 isn't worth bothering with.

Mr E · 26-04-2012 12:26am

I have a mountain of games to get through on my big expensive consoles, yet I just spent the last two hours playing Vice on my PSP thanks to this thread. Cheers guys.

Andy!! · 26-04-2012 12:20pm

Mindkiller wrote: »

Yeah, I don't think you need Patapon. I installed CFW on a 2000 and 3000 recently and it was just a case of having the right OFW and running it straight off.

SNES emulation is crap. Even with the newest emulations you almost always have to have frameskip at at least 1 so it's now much fun unless you use it as a go-between (copying save files back and forth) for a more competent emulator NES, GBA, PS1 etc seem fine. Haven't tried Mega Drive. N64 isn't worth bothering with.

Ah ****e was looking forward to playing through a Link to the past for the first time. Did it get rereleased on the GBA? Maybe I'll try it that way. I wonder why SNES emulation is so dodgy, it's the same on my Xperia Play.

Myrddin · 26-04-2012 12:24pm

Andy!! wrote: »

Ah ****e was looking forward to playing through a Link to the past for the first time. Did it get rereleased on the GBA? Maybe I'll try it that way. I wonder why SNES emulation is so dodgy, it's the same on my Xperia Play.

It is out on the GBA, & a fine port it is too

One of my top five games of all time!

gba-legend-of-zelda-the-a-link-to-the-past-box-front.jpg

Mindkiller · 26-04-2012 12:40pm

Only thing about that port is that the audio is nowhere near as good as the SNES version. You see the same type of thing with the FF ports. For some people that may be a dealbreaker. But it's a much better option than SNES emulation on PSP imo

Myrddin · 26-04-2012 12:44pm

Mindkiller wrote: »

Only thing about that port is that the audio is nowhere near as good as the SNES version. You see the same type of thing with the FF ports. For some people that may be a dealbreaker. But it's a much better option than SNES emulation on PSP imo

Yep agreed, but it's the best handheld port of LttP there is, because handheld SNES emulation isn't great. The music in LttP is epicly good, so sound quality is gonna be a consideration.

What about using the GBA cart in a DS Lite, with a decent pair of headphones?

Andy!! · 26-04-2012 3:14pm

EnterNow wrote: »

What about using the GBA cart in a DS Lite, with a decent pair of headphones?

So hang on, is the sound not as good because of how it was compressed to get it on to the card, or was it down to GBA speakers? It won't be an issue then surely?

cherryghost · 26-04-2012 3:18pm

Mindkiller wrote: »

Yeah, I don't think you need Patapon. I installed CFW on a 2000 and 3000 recently and it was just a case of having the right OFW and running it straight off.

SNES emulation is crap. Even with the newest emulations you almost always have to have frameskip at at least 1 so it's now much fun unless you use it as a go-between (copying save files back and forth) for a more competent emulator NES, GBA, PS1 etc seem fine. Haven't tried Mega Drive. N64 isn't worth bothering with.

Been a year since I installed CFW on a PSP, the patapon exploit was very easy to do, can't imagine an easier way tbh :P

N64 emulator becomes playable if you overclock your PSP in the boot menu, which I never advise people to do in the first place.

Mega Drive emulator is fine btw.

Myrddin · 26-04-2012 3:32pm

Andy!! wrote: »

So hang on, is the sound not as good because of how it was compressed to get it on to the card, or was it down to GBA speakers? It won't be an issue then surely?

No idea, headphones will only maximise what the GBA can do. If it's to do with coding, your best bet is a SNES tbh

Andy!! · 26-04-2012 3:54pm

Ah feck.

So I bought a few 32GB micro sds, and just went on ebay to buy a dual micro sd Pro duo adaptor. Finding it impossible to find one that says it accepts 32GB cards though (16gb limit). Risked it anyway, one guy selling em for about 1.50 with free postage, and will keep looking.

Myrddin · 26-04-2012 3:58pm

Andy!! wrote: »

Ah feck.

The sound is nowhere near bad, don't let it turn you off like. The GBA version is the definitive handheld port of the game.

Mindkiller · 26-04-2012 4:04pm

It's the only handheld port as well though, isnt it?

Didn't someone else say that they got a 32GB stick working in an adapter, but it would only take the one? You mightn't be totally out of luck. Sure you could always buy two cheapo adapters and switch them around.

Actually, come to think of it I'm not sure you can do that. Something to do with how you have to format the adapter in the PSP.

Andy!! · 26-04-2012 4:06pm

EnterNow wrote: »

The sound is nowhere near bad, don't let it turn you off like. The GBA version is the definitive handheld port of the game.

I didnt mean the sound, I meant the adaptor. :pac: I'll try it anyway. Not sure why I was under the illusion that two 32GB micro sds would work in the same adaptor.

Myrddin · 26-04-2012 4:09pm

Mindkiller wrote: »

It's the only handheld port as well though, isnt it?

Yep, I made my point to include emulation though. Snes emulation on handhelds isn't perfect for some reason. The DS Snes emulator is rubbish, the PSP ones are better but can be glitchy/hit & miss. Leaving the GBA/DS Lite as the only true option to play it handheld.

I know for sure they accept x2 16GB cards, I've never tried 32GB ones though

So... the PSP...

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