At what age did you become a Right Wing Nutter ?

Rabidlamb · 06-03-2012 10:25am #1

I had a good run as a young hippy liberal.
Save the whales, no US troops through Shannon, feed the world, reliable healthcare for all, no to Sellafield & all that.
Since I've been married, bought a house & had kids I've become much more conservative.
Liberal issues now do nothing for me, I see welfare state spongers as the lowest rung of society, if you can't afford that expensive operation will you just hurry up & die quickly, I don't care where my energy comes from as long as it's cheap, blow up half the middle-east if it keeps petrol below €2 a litre, I can't wait to shot a burglar.
It's getting worse the older I get & I'm only 39, what am I going to be like when I'm 70.
There's a chance I could vote FF again in my lifetime.

At what age did you flip to the darkside ?.

Guill · 06-03-2012 10:27am

I'm somewhere in the transition.

I think its when you realise that you just want to be left alone to enjoy life.

stovelid · 06-03-2012 10:30am

Rabidlamb wrote: »

I had a good run as a young hippy liberal.
Save the whales, no US troops through Shannon, feed the world, reliable healthcare for all, no to Sellafield & all that.
Since I've been married, bought a house & had kids I've become much more conservative.
Liberal issues now do nothing for me, I see welfare state spongers as the lowest rung of society, if you can't afford that expensive operation will you just hurry up & die quickly, I don't care where my energy comes from as long as it's cheap, blow up half the middle-east if it keeps petrol below €2 a litre, I can't wait to shot a burglar.
It's getting worse the older I get & I'm only 39, what am I going to be like when I'm 70.
There's a chance I could vote FF again in my lifetime.

At what age did you flip to the darkside ?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVVOY3_j5OE

jimthemental · 06-03-2012 10:38am

Saw carefree hipster type people my first day in UL, joined both FG and FF immediately. That being said I would be more centrally minded and consider everyone to be a shower of bastards getting in my way.

mikemac1 · 06-03-2012 10:39am

When I moved to Galway

The place is overrun with hippies :P

Rabidlamb · 06-03-2012 10:47am

jimthemental wrote: »

Saw carefree hipster type people my first day in UL, joined both FG and FF immediately. That being said I would be more centrally minded and consider everyone to be a shower of bastards getting in my way.

Could be a UL connection as I went there aswell.
In one big lecture some girl got up hysterical that US bombers were landing in Shannon & wanted us all to mobilize ourselves & block the runway.
As her friends led her away she screamed that we had Iraqi babies blood on our hands.
Fine by me as long as I didn't have to stand on a cold runway in November.

El Weirdo · 06-03-2012 10:51am

I never became one. Why would I want to become a cunt?

NinjaK · 06-03-2012 10:52am

Rabidlamb wrote: »

I had a good run as a young hippy liberal.
Save the whales, no US troops through Shannon, feed the world, reliable healthcare for all, no to Sellafield & all that.
Since I've been married, bought a house & had kids I've become much more conservative.
Liberal issues now do nothing for me, I see welfare state spongers as the lowest rung of society, if you can't afford that expensive operation will you just hurry up & die quickly, I don't care where my energy comes from as long as it's cheap, blow up half the middle-east if it keeps petrol below €2 a litre, I can't wait to shot a burglar.
It's getting worse the older I get & I'm only 39, what am I going to be like when I'm 70.
There's a chance I could vote FF again in my lifetime.

At what age did you flip to the darkside ?.

no US troops through Shannon - since when was this a liberal left wing view? I would consider myself right wing and I dont want foreign troops on my soil. Espically since we have so many of them already (the North).
I would imagine many right wing people in many countries would think the same.
reliable healthcare for all - thats not right wing or left wing, that just common sense. If you cant provide your people with reliable health care then your a failure at leading your people.
if you can't afford that expensive operation will you just hurry up & die quickly - sad pathetic statement
I can't wait to shot a burglar. - im sure you mean shoot, I would guess you would hide under the bed. You come across as the type that screams at the sight of a spider.

smash · 06-03-2012 10:54am

Rabidlamb wrote: »

I had a good run as a young hippy liberal.
Save the whales, no US troops through Shannon, feed the world, reliable healthcare for all, no to Sellafield & all that.

What a waste of your youth!

fenris · 06-03-2012 10:55am

I was very mellow until my daughter was born, now I want to shoot on sight!

06-03-2012 10:55am

From 16 to 23 I was well right, now I've gone so far left I think I'm coming back around again.

Teyla Emmagan · 06-03-2012 10:59am

Probably started changing to the dark side in my late twenties. Now I believe in bigger prisons, more stringent social welfare and paid fees for university. And I used to be very hippy dippy. Now I'm a right wing capitalist. I think when you get older you realise all these liberal aspirations are a money pit. And once it's your tax money you get fussy about where it's being spent.

I'm all for personal freedom and following your dream etc, don't get me wrong. As long as you can afford it yourself

Wouldn't agree with you about not caring where my energy comes from though OP. I do still have some sense of responsibility about what we're doing with this planet.

summerskin · 06-03-2012 11:01am

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Probably started changing to the dark side in my late twenties. Now I believe in bigger prisons, more stringent social welfare and paid fees for university. And I used to be very hippy dippy. Now I'm a right wing capitalist. I think when you get older you realise all these liberal aspirations are a money pit. And once it's your tax money you get fussy about where it's being spent.

I'm all for personal freedom and following your dream etc, don't get me wrong. As long as you can afford it yourself

Wouldn't agree with you about not caring where my energy comes from though OP. I do still have some sense of responsibility about what we're doing with this planet.

Sounds just like me, except for the last paragraph, i am with the OP on that one. Burn ALL the fossil fuels!!!! The cheaper the better.

El Horseboxo · 06-03-2012 11:02am

Funny how you get more right-wing as you get older!

Ted was right ya know.

Rabidlamb · 06-03-2012 11:04am

NinjaK wrote: »

no US troops through Shannon - since when was this a liberal left wing view? I would consider myself right wing and I dont want foreign troops on my soil. Espically since we have so many of them already (the North).
I would imagine many right wing people in many countries would think the same.
reliable healthcare for all - thats not right wing or left wing, that just common sense. If you cant provide your people with reliable health care then your a failure at leading your people.
if you can't afford that expensive operation will you just hurry up & die quickly - sad pathetic statement
I can't wait to shot a burglar. - im sure you mean shoot, I would guess you would hide under the bed. You come across as the type that screams at the sight of a spider.

You sound like a angry Shinner, lets just say we don't represent the same demographic.

Nothingbetter2d · 06-03-2012 11:07am

Rabidlamb wrote: »

I had a good run as a young hippy liberal.
Save the whales, no US troops through Shannon, feed the world, reliable healthcare for all, no to Sellafield & all that.
Since I've been married, bought a house & had kids I've become much more conservative.
Liberal issues now do nothing for me, I see welfare state spongers as the lowest rung of society, if you can't afford that expensive operation will you just hurry up & die quickly, I don't care where my energy comes from as long as it's cheap, blow up half the middle-east if it keeps petrol below €2 a litre, I can't wait to shot a burglar.
It's getting worse the older I get & I'm only 39, what am I going to be like when I'm 70.
There's a chance I could vote FF again in my lifetime.

At what age did you flip to the darkside ?.

why on earth would ya want to be a right winger? mid field is the place to be :P

Chairman Meow · 06-03-2012 11:08am

It happens to everyone as they get older. Middle age is when your broad mind and narrow waist exchange places.

Sergeant · 06-03-2012 11:10am

It was a cold, dark, and windy evening in October 1995. I had contracted a nasty viral infection and was off school for a week. We had recently ‘got the Sky in’ and I was flicking through the channels when I discovered a show called ‘Free to Choose: A Personal Statement’ starring Milton Friedman. I watched 5 of the episodes over the coming days and realised the dude was talking quite a bit of sense, and that I agreed with him.

As I grew up I then realised that as long as many on the left conveniently put all ‘right-wingers’ into the ‘religious nut-job, bomb the towelheads, keep the weed illegal, 7 litre car’ category that they would never achieve anything only fringe of society status. A failure to understand your opponent is the surest means of failure.

GombeanMan · 06-03-2012 11:29am

I've been Right Wing since my wee years:) Liberalism in it's current form never appealed to me.

NinjaK · 06-03-2012 11:31am

Rabidlamb wrote: »

You sound like a angry Shinner, lets just say we don't represent the same demographic.

I would rather sound like an 'angry shinner' then a complete f'ing idiot.

brimal · 06-03-2012 11:32am

NinjaK wrote: »

I would rather sound like an 'angry shinner' then a complete f'ing idiot.

Wow, you completely missed the light-hearted nature of this thread. :rolleyes:

cyrusdvirus · 06-03-2012 11:39am

NinjaK wrote: »

I would rather sound like an 'angry shinner' then a complete f'ing idiot.

once you are aware that angry shinners ARE complete f'ing idiots that's all good then.

For me, i've probably always been a little bit more to the right of centre. Not that i can't see that some lefty policies are good ideas, but more often than not i would disagree with most left-ist statements.

dvpower · 06-03-2012 11:41am

NinjaK wrote: »

I would rather sound like an 'angry shinner' then a complete f'ing idiot.

Yeah, but don't be greedy - settle on one or the other.

BraziliaNZ · 06-03-2012 11:42am

I don't know, I used to be more right wing, but when you look around a city like London, where I am now, with the bankers and other leeches getting their massive bonuses, you can see that wealth is not evenly distibuted at all, and the middle classes are getting squeezed, the poor get less, while the rich get richer, from what I can see.
So I believe in higher taxes on the rich, I don't care if they worked hard to get there, I think people don't really need these obscene amounts of cash, it should be put to better use in the community. I don't think incarceration works much either, rehabilitation of young offenders is really the only way, not locking them up and throwing away the key. My family has been victim of a sickening murder by youths, but even with that I don't believe people are born plain evil, it's down to bad parenting and environment most of the time.
So I seem to be getting more socialist as I get older, I should live in Sweden. Hug a hoodie, etc.

kincsem · 06-03-2012 11:48am

Rabidlamb wrote: »

At what age did you become a right-wing nutter?

At 19 when I started working, and had to pay for things.

Crooked Jack · 06-03-2012 11:49am

NinjaK wrote: »

no US troops through Shannon - since when was this a liberal left wing view? I would consider myself right wing and I dont want foreign troops on my soil. Espically since we have so many of them already (the North).
I would imagine many right wing people in many countries would think the same.
reliable healthcare for all - thats not right wing or left wing, that just common sense. If you cant provide your people with reliable health care then your a failure at leading your people.
if you can't afford that expensive operation will you just hurry up & die quickly - sad pathetic statement
I can't wait to shot a burglar. - im sure you mean shoot, I would guess you would hide under the bed. You come across as the type that screams at the sight of a spider.

I'm quite glad I read this. i would be pretty left wing but it's good to see that there is common ground and that left and right arent diametrically opposed on every point.
I think the only way to get things done in politics is for people on both sides to accept that not all right wingers are rural, bible-bashing war mongers, not all left wingers are ditsy, over-idealistic hippies and not all centres are spineless, fence-sitting cowards.
Wether we find it easy to accept or not the people on the opposite side of the spectrum from us arent evil or misguided stereotypes, they are there because they genuinely believe that's what's right

charlietheminxx · 06-03-2012 11:54am

What's wrong with having a bit of balance and not being either extreme? Although.... I am only 24

I really doubt I could ever become right wing though.

Crooked Jack · 06-03-2012 11:55am

gatecrash wrote: »

once you are aware that angry shinners ARE complete f'ing idiots that's all good then.

For me, i've probably always been a little bit more to the right of centre. Not that i can't see that some lefty policies are good ideas, but more often than not i would disagree with most left-ist statements.

I am gettin so ****ing bored of this. I've only been on boards properly a few weeks at this stage but it seems to be a rule that no matter what the thread is it must inevitably descend into Shinner bashing.
What is it you're so afraid of?

Dudess · 06-03-2012 11:55am

I'm definitely a tad less idealistic since I turned 30. Still fairly pinko though - and glad of it.

It seems it's the fashion now for kids to be all right-wing and no-nonsense and OTT capitalist. Just as clueless and out of touch with reality as the hippy ones they're so proud to not be, bless 'em.

Teyla Emmagan · 06-03-2012 12:01pm

Crooked Jack wrote: »

I am gettin so ****ing bored of this. I've only been on boards properly a few weeks at this stage but it seems to be a rule that no matter what the thread is it must inevitably descend into Shinner bashing.
What is it you're so afraid of?

The Shinners??!?

hooradiation · 06-03-2012 12:03pm

I haven't and I have no intention of ever doing so.

inb4 someone regurgitates that Churchill quote and thinks they're clever for doing so.

GombeanMan · 06-03-2012 12:05pm

hooradiation wrote: »

I haven't and I have no intention of ever doing so.

inb4 someone regurgitates that Churchill quote and thinks they're clever for doing so.

Ayn Rand is better.

Crooked Jack · 06-03-2012 12:05pm

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

The Shinners??!?

zzzzzzzzzzz............

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-03-2012 12:06pm

Moving to Berlin probbaly didn't do anything for and right-wing tendencies. If I ever decide to hate my fellow man with a passion, I'll let you know.

hooradiation · 06-03-2012 12:07pm

GombeanMan wrote: »

Ayn Rand is better.

I agree that Rands work is not to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force.

mike65 · 06-03-2012 12:10pm

I was never a socialist or a right wingnut but remain a liberal based in the traditional late 19th century sense of that word - enough government to offer functional support but not so much as to crush/impede. The free market over the state controlled/owned and so on. Do as you please behind your own doors while harming no one.

Randy Anders · 06-03-2012 12:15pm

Take each issue on it's merits. Don't like to box myself off as lefty or righty

BraziliaNZ · 06-03-2012 12:25pm

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Moving to Berlin probbaly didn't do anything for and right-wing tendencies. If I ever decide to hate my fellow man with a passion, I'll let you know.

You missed that party by 70 years

bnt · 06-03-2012 12:26pm

In my early 40s, hasn't happened yet. I do have some opinions that "normal" people would find harsh, but they're not easily classified as "left" or "right" e.g. I think all religions are delusions, and that this planet needs to have fewer, better people on it. I have no idea how those sit on the conventional political axes.

Besides, I know the difference between (a) having an opinion about something, (b) believing I have all the answers, and (c) thinking the world needs to do as I say.

44leto · 06-03-2012 12:31pm

I relate to the OP, it was great been a leftist liberal when I had nothing, then it was all about taking stuff of people who had already worked hard for it. All they had to do was give me some of it for free and if I took it, I was the product of a broken society, so I would be forgiven.

But then I copped the fuk on and gathered some worldly goods and dropped the free ride attitude. Now I am a fascist in the strictest national socialist sense and I wish the PDs were still about.

cloptrop · 06-03-2012 12:35pm

kincsem wrote: »

At 19 when I started working, and had to pay for things.

Yes I think the left to right wing shift directly corellates to whether or not you are currently in employment.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-03-2012 12:36pm

44leto wrote: »

I relate to the OP, it was great been a leftist liberal when I had nothing, then it was all about taking stuff of people who had already worked hard for it. All they had to do was give me some of it for free and if I took it, I was the product of a broken society, so I would be forgiven.

I think you misunderstand the meaning of the word "liberal"!!:D

Born to Die · 06-03-2012 12:39pm

I have found that as I get older my tolerance for everything is pretty much the same as it always has been.

My views are simple, I hate everything to begin with, though that changes in time, like this morning I have had porridge, hated it before, love it now.
Is porridge a food for people that are developing right wing nutter tendencies?
If so then I am there.

KeithAFC · 06-03-2012 12:39pm

Rabidlamb wrote: »

I had a good run as a young hippy liberal.
Save the whales, no US troops through Shannon, feed the world, reliable healthcare for all, no to Sellafield & all that.
Since I've been married, bought a house & had kids I've become much more conservative.
Liberal issues now do nothing for me, I see welfare state spongers as the lowest rung of society, if you can't afford that expensive operation will you just hurry up & die quickly, I don't care where my energy comes from as long as it's cheap, blow up half the middle-east if it keeps petrol below €2 a litre, I can't wait to shot a burglar.
It's getting worse the older I get & I'm only 39, what am I going to be like when I'm 70.
There's a chance I could vote FF again in my lifetime.

At what age did you flip to the darkside ?.

You mean left wing? The political wing which has ruined the traditional values in society, the liberal goody thinking which has destroyed cultural identity in many cities across the world. You have just seen the light.

cyrusdvirus · 06-03-2012 12:42pm

Crooked Jack wrote: »

I am gettin so ****ing bored of this. I've only been on boards properly a few weeks at this stage but it seems to be a rule that no matter what the thread is it must inevitably descend into Shinner bashing.
What is it you're so afraid of?

[Serious answer]

I suppose it depends on what other forums you visit while here, and how often they get derailed. I spend a bit of time over on the military forum, probably cos i never got tired of reading those commando comics when i was a kid.

The habit over there is that you can't post ANYTHING even remotely complimentary to the UK or the Crown forces without someone coming along and dragging the thread into the 800YOOP mess, and extolling the 'virtues' of a bunch of thugs running around the place calling themselves Óglaigh na hÉireann, thus insulting any man or woman who wore and wears the uniform of the PDF and RDF with pride.

There's also the very real fact that in most cases my own personal beliefs are at pretty much the opposite end of the scale to SF.

I'd have a certain degree of respect for Martin McGuinness, as he has quite openly admitted that he was a member of the IRA.

I can't abide Gerry Adams, as even though the dogs on the street know he was part of the IRA, Adams will still refuse to admit it

[/Serious Answer]

Foghladh · 06-03-2012 12:43pm

I think I was always a little conservative but then I shared a house with 3 unrepentant hippys and I tipped over the edge.

I always felt it was my civic duty to basically disagree with everything they said and I gradually morphed into the role I was playing.

It was tremendous fun.

Crooked Jack · 06-03-2012 12:45pm

cloptrop wrote: »

Yes I think the left to right wing shift directly corellates to whether or not you are currently in employment.

Only once in my life have i ever been unemployed and that only lasted a few weeks.
My employment status has never changed my view of what is right and wrong.
The distribution of wealth in this country is grossly unfair and wrong. I have felt that way whether I've had money in my pocket or not.

Logical Fallacy · 06-03-2012 12:50pm

I've said it before and i'll say it again, anyone who instantly identifies themselves as either left or right wing without giving due consideration to the issue at hand is a total spastic.

hooradiation wrote: »

I agree that Rands work is not to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force.

I completely disagree with that. Rand is the perfect cautionary tale for blind belief in a system (Objectivism) which would later be thrown away in later life. In her later years Rand was being supported by the government she had earlier wished to see dissolved via a system she wished to see abolished (welfare).

rosser44 · 06-03-2012 12:51pm

I think its less about left wing vs right wing and more about being an idealist when you are young and have no experience of how the world works, and as life teaches the true nature of human beings you become more of a realist.
I would be a big believer in personal freedom but at the same time think that allowing people with 50+ criminal convictions to be granted suspended sentences for crimes against working members of society ( theft of property, assault etc) to be a complete travesty. these type of people are not "poor victims of circumstance", they are criminals who have no place in society.

Eric Cartman · 06-03-2012 12:57pm

At 22 op , i have to say yor behind the times , with hipsters and the internet , those damn pinkos have new ways to spread their filth among each other, i think you need to get a bit more right wing , its the foreigners and travellers causing the problems too

BraziliaNZ · 06-03-2012 12:58pm

rosser44 wrote: »

I would be a big believer in personal freedom but at the same time think that allowing people with 50+ criminal convictions to be granted suspended sentences for crimes against working members of society ( theft of property, assault etc) to be a complete travesty. these type of people are not "poor victims of circumstance", they are criminals who have no place in society.

But what if someone was abused in their childhood, beaten, made to feel worthless, surrounded by anger and frustration and poverty? Brought up to hate everyone else. I think it's immoral and unfair to lock them up and throw away the key. I mean people from good homes and backgrounds need to understand that we would have been completely different under different circumstances. I think we have a higher rate of ASBO behaviour in Ireland/UK because of the way youths are treated by the powers that be, we should be looking at the way they deal with out of control youths in Germany/Sweden etc.

At what age did you become a Right Wing Nutter ?

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