North Korea Wins!!!

expectationlost · 18-12-2014 6:16am

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

Netflix might end up buying the rights, would be a win win for both parties.

and then they hack netflix

Shenshen · 18-12-2014 9:20am

My name is URL wrote: »

I'm still not convinced that this isn't all just a marketing ploy.

And I'm not convinced that North Korea are responsible for the Sony hack either. Seems a lot more like an inside job.

This sums up my suspicions about the whole thing nicely.

They're not going to release it to cinemas, but from what I hear will release it for download and on DVD.
This whole episode about the hacks and the embarassing emails has made sure that this film is the most talked about film this year, when from the previews I would have filed it under "Another Team America one, probably not all that funny anyway".

If I was cynically inclined, I would propose that the whole North Korea hack was actually done by Sony themselves, as a publicity stunt for the film.
If so, it's sheere brilliance and certainly has worked. Kudos to whoever thought that one up.

Staplor · 18-12-2014 9:29am

Now they can make a film about a movie that nobody could see because of ......... terrorism. Queue many shots of the American Flag and Freedom Fries. 'Merica *uck yeah

OU812 · 18-12-2014 9:31am

If they were clever & wanted to strike back, they'd cut their losses & release it as a free download. Would be viewed by far more people then

NoMore MrNiceGuy · 18-12-2014 9:32am

My name is URL wrote: »

Well I mean an inside job would be equally malicious.

The amount of data that was compromised is huge. It would have taken weeks or months to do it remotely and the chances of it going undetected would very very low.

Firstly that's not true. Computers are fast. Text data is small.

Secondly clearly embarrassing stuff was released.

Thirdly what kind of publicity stunt would endup in promoting a movie which then isn't released?

Theres paranoia and theres paranoia.

The Hill Billy · 18-12-2014 9:33am

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Sony will now not release its new film 'The interview' about assassination of Jim Jong Un.

Sony fears more hacking and a backlash.

Pity looked like a good film!

The documentary version will be much better & more satisfying.

NoMore MrNiceGuy · 18-12-2014 9:35am

Shenshen wrote: »

This sums up my suspicions about the whole thing nicely.

They're not going to release it to cinemas, but from what I hear will release it for download and on DVD.
This whole episode about the hacks and the embarassing emails has made sure that this film is the most talked about film this year, when from the previews I would have filed it under "Another Team America one, probably not all that funny anyway".

If I was cynically inclined, I would propose that the whole North Korea hack was actually done by Sony themselves, as a publicity stunt for the film.
If so, it's sheere brilliance and certainly has worked. Kudos to whoever thought that one up.

Ack don't be utterly stupid. Marketing departments around the world are not going to start releasing private embarrassing emails of their executives and everybody's SSNs for publicity to sell a product which isn't then going to sell in its major market.

Why do people think North korea wouldn't do this?

Shenshen · 18-12-2014 9:52am

NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote: »

Ack don't be utterly stupid. Marketing departments around the world are not going to start releasing private embarrassing emails of their executives and everybody's SSNs for publicity to sell a product which isn't then going to sell in its major market.

Why do people think North korea wouldn't do this?

Because it's way too subtle for North Korea.

North Korea doesn't try and embarass people it doesn't like, it would try and destroy them. Releasing a few emails about untalented actors doesn't even get close.

I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that I'm convinced it was Sony's marketing department, but I would have doubts either way.

conorhal · 18-12-2014 9:53am

myshirt wrote: »

Did it?

A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

I might agree with you if the serving leader in question wasn't a mass murdering sociopath. Your comment is a bit like complaining loudly that Mighty Mouse would regularly beat up Hitler in american cartoons during the war.

Allyall · 18-12-2014 9:55am

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

Netflix might end up buying the rights, would be a win win for both parties.

I can only imagine the trouble that would cause for them.

NoMore MrNiceGuy · 18-12-2014 9:56am

Shenshen wrote: »

Because it's way too subtle for North Korea.

North Korea doesn't try and embarass people it doesn't like, it would try and destroy them. Releasing a few emails about untalented actors doesn't even get close.

I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that I'm convinced it was Sony's marketing department, but I would have doubts either way.

North Korea is not "subtle".

Releasing internal documents is illegal and a firable offence. Releasing SSN numbers is also a huge issue. No marketing dept is going to suggest that internal emails be released, many critical of talent, along with scripts and personal information of executives and others to promote a movie. That's quite frankly crazy talk.

A dictatorship getting involved in cyberwar is not fantastical.

Shenshen · 18-12-2014 9:58am

myshirt wrote: »

Did it?

A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

Would you have had the same objections to "The Great Dictator", then?

Shenshen · 18-12-2014 10:00am

NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote: »

North Korea is not "subtle".

Releasing internal documents is illegal and a firable offence. Releasing SSN numbers is also a huge issue. No marketing dept is going to suggest that internal emails be released, many critical of talent, along with scripts and personal information of executives and others to promote a movie. That's quite frankly crazy talk.

A dictatorship getting involved in cyberwar is not fantastical.

That's what I mean, it's too suble a move. Nevermind the illegality, when's the last time North Korea cared about that? But they could have done far more and serious damage, and didn't.

fryup · 18-12-2014 10:10am

cloud493 wrote: »

What? I'm gutted now, it looked pretty good

thought it looked crap, a blessing in disguise maybe

thank you north korea

AndyBoBandy · 18-12-2014 10:19am

Sony should do what U2 did with their new album, and forcibly put it on every device going!
Now theres a way to rile everyone up and get free publicity!

uck51js9zml2yt · 18-12-2014 10:30am

I'm amazed (maybe not) that Sony hadn't tightened up their server security.
If get hacked once is bad but to be hacked again is irresponsible. The hustlers deserves to go down the pan for that. At the very least their cyber security chiefs head should roll. (there is no inferrance to Muslim extremists in this post

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Gatling · 18-12-2014 10:31am

The reason it was pulled had nothing to do with the hacks .the film was pulled because there were threats of unleashing attacks worse than 9\11 on cinema chains whom showed it, they even went as far to threatening residents who lived near cinemas to move away for there own good,

Odd part America is now beem threatened with state sponsored terrorism that wont sit well

Xios · 18-12-2014 11:25am

There a leaked clip I saw last night, the film looks amazing.

Kim Jong Un is flying away in a helicopter. In super slow motion a tank shell hits the tank, explodes and you slowly see kim's clothes start to burn as his face skin wobbles in the blast wave before fire envelopes his face and what can only be brain matter flies out of frame. All this is set to a rather pleasant acoustic version of Katy Perry's Firework.

Custardpi · 18-12-2014 11:32am

Gatling wrote: »

The reason it was pulled had nothing to do with the hacks .the film was pulled because there were threats of unleashing attacks worse than 9\11 on cinema chains whom showed it, they even went as far to threatening residents who lived near cinemas to move away for there own good,

Odd part America is now beem threatened with state sponsored terrorism that wont sit well

But are those threats realistic? Do the NKs really have the capability to carry out terrorist acts abroad? Maybe in Asia, but in the US?

OU812 · 18-12-2014 11:39am

Imagine if there was no real movie, that they just filmed a trailer & that this is part of a mocumentary movie they're making about the events...

Gatling · 18-12-2014 11:40am

Custardpi wrote: »

But are those threats realistic? Do the NKs really have the capability to carry out terrorist acts abroad? Maybe in Asia, but in the US?

I personally wouldn't rule it out been possible but if even one act of terrorism was carried out in the name of NK id expect a massive retaliation from the US

Brendan Flowers · 18-12-2014 11:50am

fryup wrote: »

thought it looked crap, a blessing in disguise maybe

thank you north korea

And what was the name of terrorist organisation that were going to force you to watch the film?

cloud493 · 18-12-2014 11:58am

After Sony canceled the release of the North Korea assassination comedy The Interview, a Texas theater said it would swap the film with Paramount's 2004 film Team America: World Police for one free screening.

"We're just trying to make the best of an unfortunate situation," James Wallace, creative manager and programmer at the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema's Dallas/Fort Worth location, tells The Hollywood Reporter.

American flags and other patriotic items will be given out by theater employees, Wallace says.

The plot of Team America, co-written by South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone, revolves around Kim Jong Il, the father of current North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un. The posters promoting the R-rated movie in 2004 included the tagline, "Putting the 'F' Back in Freedom."

Well its pretty funny if nothing else.

Caliden · 18-12-2014 12:26pm

Andybobandy wrote: »

Sony should do what U2 did with their new album, and forcibly put it on every device going!
Now theres a way to rile everyone up and get free publicity!

I think it would be the perfect opportunity for a big company like Sony to allow people buy the movie online and watch it.

I know I definitely would if they released a 1080p version.

I think it could make them a serious amount of money if they do and could open the eyes of a few archaic executives who still think piracy hurts sales (proven that it doesn't given the leak of Fury/Annie while they are still in cinemas).

ebbsy · 18-12-2014 6:00pm

Fair play to the Koreans, they gave the Yanks a good kick square in the nether regions.

Diabhal Beag · 18-12-2014 6:08pm

I heard they've already executed Dapper laughs after he made the squinty eyes gesture.

Billy86 · 18-12-2014 6:11pm

mad muffin wrote: »

That's it. Christmas is cancelled!:mad:

Don't worry, we've still got Jingle All the Way 2!!

clevtrev · 18-12-2014 6:34pm

myshirt wrote: »

Did it?

A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

Calling him a leader is a bit much. Hes a dictator who rules with fear

fryup · 18-12-2014 7:28pm

banning any movie that stars Seth Rogen can't be all that bad

Iwasfrozen · 18-12-2014 7:34pm

Gatling wrote: »

The reason it was pulled had nothing to do with the hacks .the film was pulled because there were threats of unleashing attacks worse than 9\11 on cinema chains whom showed it, they even went as far to threatening residents who lived near cinemas to move away for there own good,

Odd part America is now beem threatened with state sponsored terrorism that wont sit well

Pfft, North Korea is going to target every Cinema in Europe, America and Asia?

The movie will be released, sony have (probably) spent a lot of money making it.

North Korea Wins!!!

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