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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Feel a bit bad posting my experience here but this is it anyway.

    I had it done privately in <modsnip> about six years ago and cost €600 so you guys are getting good value.

    I knew we had hit a snag on the op when I could feel him shaking while he was pulling at something and asked was there a problem and he said he was having trouble finding the vas on my right hand side.Its a tribute to his local anaesthetic that I did not have to much pain in proportion to his struggles but we got throughit and went back to a local house for a few hours and drove back to Tipp then and had a few pints in the local,no probs.

    About a year later started getting flashing pains in my side,some that would double you over.Went to GP and he gave me anti-biotics and pain killers and pain went away but has returned every couple of months since.
    Have done batteries of tests in hospital incl an endoscopy(up through the eye under general anaestheic), which revealed nothing until the doctors have finally admitted that it is related to my vasectomy which I had been saying all along.
    Have had pain now for the past week and and I seem to be able to dull it with Anadin extra but when the flashing pain is not there I can still have that dull pain in my right testicle and I am waiting for an appointment with a specialist to see where we go from here and the Urologist that I was seeing has said that there may be some type of freezing treatment.

    Reading up on this on the net(which I know doctors love;))it seems to be quite a common problem that there is no statistics kept on.
    But I suppose it could be said that my op was successful at what was set out to be done.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    The plan after baby no. 2 (in a yr or 2) is for me to get the shnip!!!

    Some silly Qs

    Most important - what is the likelyhood of it affecting my excellent performance?
    I know about the mental side of it but i cant see myself creating my own problem. Im worried about irreversible physical issues.

    Has anyone had any issues that they are willing to tell?

    I dont know if i could live the rest of my life with problems down below


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Try searching this forum for vasectomy, there is a big thread here with loads of info, posters experience etc.

    I'm on mobile so can't link to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Mod

    Threads merged.
    Hope you get all the info you need here OP :)



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    Try searching this forum for vasectomy, there is a big thread here with loads of info, posters experience etc.

    I'm on mobile so can't link to it.


    Just read the whole thread and nothing on my main question

    Either no one has had any issue with performance or no one wants to talk


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭barone


    has had no impact on me since ive had it done, other than the 7 minutes it took,things are the very same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭whoami1


    I had it done at the end of October, so I'm 2/3 of the way through the 18 weeks before testing.

    I'm hoping for a fully negative result first time out, so I don't have to submit a second sample.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭NobodyImportant


    Looking into doing this very soon. Seems like good reviews from Blanch / Clane area. Will look into them further.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭papamike


    Had mine done in Clane last Thursday. We have three kids and needed to do something more permanent on that front.

    Got an appointment within a couple of weeks of contacting and all very professional - read some people had counselling before hand but I'd my jocks around my ankles when he asked how many kids did I have!!

    The procedure itself was not too bad, not the most pleasant of experiences, more anxious anticipating what was going to happen really although I did lift my knee as the first injection went in - reflex reaction I suppose but he did say not to do it again bearing in mind where he was working:)

    Could feel a bit of a pinch on one side - maybe the local anaesthetic didn't work as well there but no pain at all the other side - just some pulling and tugging. All done in less than 10 minutes.

    Post Op: I drove myself home and took up residence on the couch for the rest of the day. Few neurofen to kill the pain which does hit later on.

    No real problems walking about but still have some discomfort down there which hopefully will ease off over next few days. Wearing tight brief type jocks helps a lot - get a size too small, don't want them swinging about the place. Take photos cos you'll never look as big again;)

    One thing I haven't read much about here was the bruising after - not to be too graphic but black avocado would be a very apt description. Any one else have that?

    Need to use some form of contraceptive until sperm test at 20 weeks. You can tell the wife that you need about 60 goes to really flush out the pipes;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭jeepers101


    papamike wrote: »

    black avocado would be a very apt description. Any one else have that?

    Rings a bell alright :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    jeepers101 wrote: »
    Rings a bell alright :p
    Didn't even look!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭NobodyImportant


    @ papamike, presure you had the micro one? Another place reckons that the older method has better results later on (i.e less long term pain etc).


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭papamike


    @NobodyImportant not sure what you mean by micro but I had two very small incisions that didn't require a stitch. I had read up about the 'no scalpel' technique in other places which I presume you mean is the newer method but this guy uses the incision method. Location was just handier for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭whoami1


    I had bruising as well, but the pain on the day was easily handled for me by a couple of Panadol. The bruising was a bit mad, but it fades quickly enough. The discomfort was mild for a couple of weeks afterwards, although slicing my finger open about 4 days after the procedure did distract me for a while!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Make sure as well to milk for all its worth the lying on the couch bit after the procedure.:D:D:D I found it was more uncomfortable that painfull and a few Nurafen took away the edge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 Whitehorse


    Thanks for all the info lads.Anyone have experience of clinics in the West (Galway/Sligo). Number 4 is on the way so need to get sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭SIRREX


    Whitehorse wrote: »
    Thanks for all the info lads.Anyone have experience of clinics in the West (Galway/Sligo). Number 4 is on the way so need to get sorted.
    Most hospitals will not carry out a vasectomy while your partner is pregnant, usually insisting you wait 6 months after


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Zipppy


    Anyone use vasectomyireland.ie? listed as Molesworth clinic but that's a dental clinic? Anyone?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Lads how bad is the pain really?

    Im getting done on Friday and the oul nerves are starting to kick in.

    For camparisons how bad would it be compared to getting say tattooed / pierced as these are probably the best references I have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Not as bad as going to the dentist in my opinion.
    Not painful just uncomfortable.
    Stock up on Nurafen or Solpadine and youll be grand:)
    Take it easy for the weekend, put your feet up and milk it for
    all its worth .....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭SIRREX


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Lads how bad is the pain really?

    Im getting done on Friday and the oul nerves are starting to kick in.

    For camparisons how bad would it be compared to getting say tattooed / pierced as these are probably the best references I have.

    If you ever got a hard kick in the Family jewels the pain is similar to the dull ache you have about 45 minutes after that!!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Thanks lads-Ill post back on my "experience" on Friday.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Thanks lads-Ill post back on my "experience" on Friday.
    Best wishes for it


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    All done.

    Pain wise--felt absolutely nothing bar one injection of local anaesthetic.That was a little bit sore.

    Compared to a few hours tattoo sitting this is a doddle.

    Loaded on neurofen plus at the minute (best excuse ever when they ask why you want some instead of the 20 usual questions you get)

    All in all anyone with any worries--just go for it.An easy 20 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    All done.

    Pain wise--felt absolutely nothing bar one injection of local anaesthetic.That was a little bit sore.

    Compared to a few hours tattoo sitting this is a doddle.

    Loaded on neurofen plus at the minute (best excuse ever when they ask why you want some instead of the 20 usual questions you get)

    All in all anyone with any worries--just go for it.An easy 20 minutes.

    Well done. Worst part over as far as I'm concerned. Now feet up for the rest of the weekend at least. Try and milk Monday as well if you can.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭adonai


    Hi guys,

    Im planning to do one in the near future.

    Looking for a decent clinic in Dublin area. Now, I've found these and prepared a little summary.


    vasectomyireland dot ie -€450, this includes the semen samples. If you have a valid medical card, then the cost is €350. they do open-ended vas which is good, because I'm afraid of the 'congestion' side-eff. Want to avoid that at all cost and open ended vas has lower side-eff. percentage.

    ifpa dot ie Sexual-Health-Services Vasectomy-Clinic Looks pro. Maybe too pro hehe
    Initial vasectomy consultation €100
    Vasectomy procedure €350
    Two semen tests €40 (payable to the Rotunda Hospital)
    Free aftercare and follow-up care (if necessary)
    so this is 500 Euro.


    vasectomy-ireland dot com €395 low cost but the website looks freaky hehe... anyone been there?

    vasectomyplus dot ie site looks okay. €400.00 + €20 per semen sample [usually x2] and you will pay the hospital directly.
    The cost includes all your after care visits if needed and emergency cover if you have a problem after the surgery.


    vasectomy dot ie open-ended. €500. Morehampton This is a total fee, which covers the operation and all post operative management, including all semen analysis. It also covers any additional semen analysis or follow-up. You can choose between no needle/with needle op which is a good sign.

    basically you need to set up budget for 500E and u'll be fine.

    I'd went an extensive read and from one point there is no connection between lower testosterone/libido after the op, and also higher prostate cancer might be true but this is v low percentage- still u can die more commonly for a stomach cancer...

    other side is quite a lot of men reporting chronic pain post op, I understand that this must be higher than stated '1-5%' because if you are ok then its more likely that you would not post about it but when something goes wrong then of course you will rant about it.

    And the number of people reporting issues is pretty high - even here I've saw some... so this might mean side effects are quite common and vas is a nice business with nice cash flow [500 euro for a minor op is a nice one] OR a LOT of men are doing this...


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    adonai wrote: »
    If you have a valid medical card, then the cost is €350. they do open-ended vas which is good, because I'm afraid of the 'congestion' side-eff. Want to avoid that at all cost and open ended vas has lower side-eff. percentage.



    .



    If you have a valid medical card its completely free in the morehampton clinic.
    Couldn't recommend Dr O Keefe enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭adonai


    Thats cool, I will consider this one - thanks for the info dude!


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭adonai


    from what I've read it seems that:

    the risk of getting instant side effects with open ended vas is pretty low, usually it hits 4-10 years afer the op.

    *however* if you are sensitive, and got a lot of semen or cases of testicular pain in the past you should seriously reconsider it.

    Now, what is 'a lot of semen' FFS..... how does one interpret that lol is that anything to do re age or vigorous sex life etc? Anyone got any info on this pls?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭adonai


    anyone got update on this?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    adonai wrote: »
    anyone got update on this?

    No problems here.Got the all clear in August.Everything physically feels exactly the way it was before.Actually it's better as we no longer have to worry about other forms of protection.

    But no pain bar the few days after the procedure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭adonai


    ok cheers dude, so nothing like accumulation of sperm in the scrotum etc?

    1. I was wondering whether the 'blue balls' syndrome when you don't ejaculate is in fact being caused by the ejaculate liquid or by the sperm liquid in itself (which is being added later to the mentioned ejaculate liquid).

    2. how long you needed to wait before you could resume physical excercises? (I'm doing slight weightlifting that's why I wonder)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    this thread is great , saved me writing one myself.
    Gonna book myself in shortly - I've a break around Christmas from work and sports so could be a good time.

    Only concern is the mental aspect of being less virile therefore not desiring sex as much. I've no evidence of this really I just thought of this concern myself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭adonai


    this thread is great , saved me writing one myself.
    Gonna book myself in shortly - I've a break around Christmas from work and sports so could be a good time.

    Only concern is the mental aspect of being less virile therefore not desiring sex as much. I've no evidence of this really I just thought of this concern myself.

    I don't really think this is a problem as vas don't affect levels of testosterone.. I believe it might be an 'psychological' issue for some lads who maybe believe that being able to impregnate a woman means being a 'bigger' man.. So when they no longer can do it, they feel 'less' capable and lower libido kicks in?

    ..what a nonsense :)

    idk but how many guys do you know that *really* dream about being a father? How many told you that they need to have a child because otherwise their life has no meaning to them? As for me - zero.

    This is more of a woman issue. Going even further I'd say I would never leave such important and life-changing decision to anybody else than myself. Heard waaay too many stories about 'forgotten pills', 'condoms breaking' , 'magical pregnancies' and so on...

    www. glowm.com/section_view/heading/Long-Term%20Risks%20of%20Vasectomy/item/408#15501 here's a great summary (hence to cut the space after www. ;) data is from 2008)

    the only thing that worries me is the chronic pain syndrome, if one is sensitive or produce a lot of semen or had issues of pain in the past- this all needs to be researched and I plan to check with 2 independent doctors just to be sure.

    EFFECTS ON SEXUALITY AND SEXUAL FUNCTION

    After vasectomy, male sexual and reproductive physiology remains unaffected, aside from the desired change in fertility. The nerves involved in erectile function and ejaculation are not affected, and vasectomy does not lead to impotence or other sexual difficulties. In a large cohort study,11, 12 incidence of impotence was 1.9/1000 man-years (MY) of observation in men with vasectomy and 1.7/1000 MY in men without vasectomy, a difference that was not statistically significant.

    As with female sterilization, vasectomy has sometimes been reported to have a positive effect on sexuality, possibly because the chance of unintended pregnancy has been reduced.13, 14, 15 In one large study, the number of men reporting loss of sexual interest was identical in vasectomized versus nonvasectomized men.16

    Production of seminal fluid, the major component of semen, by the accessory sex glands is unaffected by vasectomy. Thus, the client will not notice any reduction in the amount of semen ejaculated after vasectomy has been performed. Sperm production continues, even though the sperm's passage through the reproductive tract has been blocked, and sperm are broken down by macrophages in the lumen of the epididymal tubule.4, 17


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    I had it done a month ago. No loss in sexual desire. Was back cycling to work after a week (on the cautious advice of the doctor). The most annoying thing is the wait for the all clear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭ravima


    ADONI - If you have any worries or concerns, talk to your surgeon and if after the talk if you are still concerned, walk away and don't go through with it.

    Life is hard enough without worrying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭adonai


    wise words my friend, however you can choose between fear of endless pain after something will go wrong - or endless worrying that you will get somebody pregnant (or somebody will take this decision on your behalf, lol) - as I'am 100% that I don't want kids (various reasons)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Has anyone had a 12 month sample Check up.
    My wife's gynie recommended annual checks to make sure the process hadn't reversed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭dublinercheese


    Just saw this thread and decided to chime in.

    I had my vasectomy done when I was 23 years old (32 now). By far, it's the best decision I've ever made and would do it again immediately. I had the no-scapel (aka punch and cauterize) method (Performed in USA). It takes about 20mins and is an out-patient procedure. Take some mild pain killers if you have pain, but, in general, all it takes is a weekend and you'll probably be fine. I didn't even have any prescription pain killers prescribed.

    I've had no pain, averse sexual dysfunction or any accidental reversals. My DR. recommended I get my sperm count checked 6-8 weeks after healing and then again in 6mo and 1yr just to be sure. I did all those things and I'm still shooting' blanks. Couldn't be happier. It's definitely an added bonus on my sexual CV and I would highly recommend it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Killser


    Hi all
    Huge thanks for all the posts here - I wasnt really worried about the snip, but reading the positive comments here has been fantastic. Heading to Coole for the procedure next week and had a couple of questions for everyone;

    Shaving - everything goes, the night before, or the morning of?
    Running/Swimming - back at it after 7 days or more?

    Cheers!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Killser wrote: »
    Hi all
    Huge thanks for all the posts here - I wasnt really worried about the snip, but reading the positive comments here has been fantastic. Heading to Coole for the procedure next week and had a couple of questions for everyone;

    Shaving - everything goes, the night before, or the morning of?
    Running/Swimming - back at it after 7 days or more?

    Cheers!!


    Best of luck,

    Shaving - Just nice and tidy should do the trick. Night before I suppose
    Running / Swimming - 7 days may be ok. Ease your self back gently. The first couple of days just take it very easy. After a week you may still have slight swelling. You wll know yourself if you feel up to a run/swim.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭dublinercheese


    Glebee wrote: »
    Best of luck,

    Shaving - Just nice and tidy should do the trick. Night before I suppose
    Running / Swimming - 7 days may be ok. Ease your self back gently. The first couple of days just take it very easy. After a week you may still have slight swelling. You wll know yourself if you feel up to a run/swim.

    Shaving depends on your procedure. I only had to shave a small portion of my scrotum. I had the no scalpel method (sometimes called the punch method). Running and swimming, probably a few days unless you have a lot of swelling (depending on procedure). Ask your doctor to be sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Killser


    Thanks Gleebee, dublincheese

    Big day is Friday, will let you know how it went!


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Killser


    Thanks Gleebee, dublinercheese

    Big day is Friday, will let you know how it went!


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭adonai


    all went ok?

    did doctors ever saying about post vasectomy chronic pain syndrome ? somebody asked them about it?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Killser wrote: »
    Thanks Gleebee, dublinercheese

    Big day is Friday, will let you know how it went!

    Good luck tomorrow.Just make sure to have plenty of frozen peas and neurofen plus on hand.It's great fun going into the pharmacy and after 20 questions telling them you had a vasectomy..More than willing to hand it over then!!!

    Another great thing is depending on whos doing it is the aftercare sheet.On mine it had "frequent ejaculations " are necessary for proper aftercare.Had my wife pestered and had the excuse that it was doctors orders!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Also dont forget feet up on the couch until Monday at least, Tuesday if you can milk it.....;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Killser


    Sittin on me arse now after the job - cant get over how simple it was, and I ve virtually no pain at all. Had physio during the week and had some dry needling done, that was far more sore than anything in the snip!

    Wasn't all that bothered sittin round, difficult with a 3.5 year old and a 10-month old.

    Gotta say though, the sedation was mental fun, I don't remember a single thing about the procedure, haven't had a beer buzz like it for ages!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭ravima


    adonai wrote: »
    all went ok?

    did doctors ever saying about post vasectomy chronic pain syndrome ? somebody asked them about it?

    Adonai,

    Given your postings over the past six months, have you a SPECIFIC worry? If so, talk to your doctor. You will not get consolation and the answer you want here, as you cannot seek specific medical advice from members.

    If you have a worry about the procedure, then either talk to your doctor or forget about it.

    You seem to be infatuated with 'post vasectomy pain syndrome'. Have you met someone who has/had it, or is it a theoretical worry, or would you simply rather that you OH took all responsibility for contraception?

    if it is this, have your spoken with OH?


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭adonai


    Wise words mate, but my thinking goes like that

    -doctors doing it are often also the ones earning a lot of money from it
    -doctors not doing it (GP's and all) are often not having enough information on the subject
    -by asking people that have done it in random places, such as on forums like boards.ie I can see how many people approx. reported any kind of problems

    ofc I am happy that this seems much lower than I suspected and I will be doing my booking soon :)


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