SoccerManager.com (#3) The Boards.ie World

GT_TDI_150 · 04-02-2014 10:10pm #1

The #2 thread is only a few posts from collapsing under its own weight so

Here's a shiney new thread!

Gameworld detail:

**UPDATE Novermber 2013**
We are still accepting players into the game world.you can PM me if you need any help in getting started.

We have created a Soccermanager.com league world for the Boards.ie members only. It only launched on 24th of March 2013 and new members are always welcome.
If you would like a team in it, then register on the site and then search for game world ID:174426 to view free clubs. If you want a club then click "Apply" and post in here your user name and which club you applied for and ill accept you into the world ASAP.Or else just PM me with your email and ill offer you a job

As alot of the big clubs are already managed players who join now will start with a small team and try too amass as much manager points as possible as down the road when teams become free we refer too manager points and the manager with the most points who wants the job is awarded it.it is easyier too get points with small teams then big teams as this explains

The success that you achieve with your club is rewarded in the form of Manager Points. They are awarded for wins, draws, league titles, cup titles and you get additional points for winning or drawing against a team that is stronger than your own. For each respective feat you are awarded the following based on our manager point scoring system:

Win: 3 pts
Draw: 1 pts
Lose: 0 pts
Win against stronger team: 5 pts
Draw against stronger team: 2 pts
League Title: 10 pts
Cup Title: 10 pts

The Manager Points that you are awarded will be accumulated during your time as manager of the club. This information will also be recorded and displayed within your Profile and Club History. If you manage to accumulate enough points then you feature within the Best Managers list.

Please note that if you move to another club due to either accepting a job offer or resigning then your Manager Points will not transfer with you. However, they will still be displayed within your Profile alongside the respective club you accumulated them with.

KERSPLAT! · 04-02-2014 10:18pm

Maldjd23 · 04-02-2014 10:21pm

So how about max squad sizes??

phobia2011 · 04-02-2014 10:23pm

A must, SMFP and all that!:D

phobia2011 · 04-02-2014 10:24pm

got my arse handed to me!
well done genoa!

willing to part with wilfred bony- P/E only, he was my ace card

start of a new era and all that!

Tinie · 04-02-2014 10:25pm

Maldjd23 wrote: »

So how about max squad sizes??

I vote in favour of this. It would make the game so much more fair and realistic. Its ridiculous when theres a few teams with 200+ players just being hoarded up like and with teams outside of Div 1 struggling to get decent players at a fair price.

Some of us have FAR too much time on their hands to spend all day bidding on players from externals than others, so its impossible to find the time, for me anyway, to go searching through the database for externals of a decent rating that haven't been hoovered up already.

A 60 player cap or whatever for next season where people had to purge all their "unwanted" players, by any means, even if it means selling them at FACE VALUE!!! (:eek::eek::eek::eek: SHOCK AND HORROR!) to get down to that cap would be good but alas this post is probably pointless as nothing will change.

Rayne Wooney · 04-02-2014 10:29pm

you won't get all 70 of whatever managers to comply, most I've never even seen posting on boards

I think it will inevitably be what turns people off this game,bigger clubs are hoovering up all the talent anyway and have no need to sell at all ( did the Madrid manager say he has 100+m in the bank in the other thread)

If it could be done I would be in favour but I don't think it can be

Tinie · 04-02-2014 10:31pm

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

you won't get all 70 of whatever managers to comply, most I've never even seen posting on boards

I think it will inevitably be what turns people off this game,bigger clubs are hoovering up all the talent anyway and have no need to sell at all ( did the Madrid manager say he has 100+m in the bank in the other thread)

If it could be done I would be in favour but I don't think it can be

It will be the death of the gameworld, where it will be eventually need to be reset and restarted, or either only the top teams with the usual regulars will remain. 80% of players on the transfer list are up for P/ex, but how can a small team with a tiny bank balance comply with that when they cant really afford to be giving away any of their decent players anyways?

It will be interesting to see how the copa del board gameworld operates with their squad cap in the next few seasons. I think it will work far better personally.

eh i dunno · 04-02-2014 10:32pm

40 players max should be more than enough. Some teams have ridiculous squads

GT_TDI_150 · 04-02-2014 10:32pm

Maldjd23 wrote: »

So how about max squad sizes??

Ah Jaysus .... already

Maldjd23 · 04-02-2014 10:36pm

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Ah Jaysus .... already

I was only messing..:D:D

That said, i would be in favour of it. I reckon 25 players per squad would do. Certainly make it more of a challenge and would share the wealth.

Tinie · 04-02-2014 10:36pm

eh i dunno wrote: »

40 players max should be more than enough. Some teams have ridiculous squads

Juve, chelsea and the worst of them all from what I can see from a quick look... dortmund are the main culprits

190 youth players for christ sake lol

12gauge dave · 04-02-2014 10:39pm

RAMOS 95

ALONSO 95

both been added to transfer market for p/x

Ramos is only 1 of 4 95 rated central defenders so is gonna take a huge offer to nab him.

Alonso is moving on at 32 but still will need a good offer

In all honesty they are two of my best players and I prob wont sell them at all but just giving people a chance to make an offer that tempts me.

eh i dunno · 04-02-2014 10:40pm

Tinie wrote: »

Juve, chelsea and the worst of them all from what I can see from a quick look... dortmund are the main culprits

190 youth players for christ sake lol

Madness...14 keepers he has :eek:

Peanut Butter Jelly · 04-02-2014 10:42pm

25 is too low for people who are in all the cups and that. 50 seems to be alright. You can have a full replacement squad and a few extras and enough youths.

Rayne Wooney · 04-02-2014 10:42pm

Can't see Mac agreeing considering he has 200 players lol

Oh and I'm thinking about selling Coentrao, 2 young 89 or over players in return. I'll keep him if I can't get that.

May do a deal for a LW or RW 92 or over, Coentrao plus cash

GT_TDI_150 · 04-02-2014 10:44pm

Lads seriously! squad caps has been discussed to death ...

They are not doing anything wrong ... ANYONE can by newly added players, as a matter of fact smaler teams have higher max prices on these players than the big teams so they should be able to snap up more than they do.

GT_TDI_150 · 04-02-2014 10:45pm

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Can't see Mac agreeing considering he has 200 players lol

Oh and I'm thinking about selling Coentrao, 2 young 89 or over players in return. I'll keep him if I can't get that.

May do a deal for a LW or RW 92 or over, Coentrao plus cash

are you on chat on SM?

Maldjd23 · 04-02-2014 10:45pm

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

25 is too low for people who are in all the cups and that. 50 seems to be alright. You can have a full replacement squad and a few extras and enough youths.

Not if you get knocked out in the 1st round like me!!:D

Rayne Wooney · 04-02-2014 10:49pm

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

are you on chat on SM?

Doesn't work on the tablet, you can mail me on it

swoody · 04-02-2014 11:14pm

this is the amount of fcuk i give about squad size

Rayne Wooney · 04-02-2014 11:19pm

3 bids for Coentrao, only one 89 player in sight, tonnes of cash

Do I need to make an illustration of the instructions I gave in the last post :pac:

12gauge dave · 04-02-2014 11:23pm

A limit would be healthy in my opinion.
How about for new players joining our league how are they suppose to build a youth team when they are all taken by youth whores.

It doesnt bother me much to be honest as I wont be playing this game in a few years time but the game has no future at all if every youth player is at 5 clubs it will be a lonely world with only 5 of ye playing

The world has enough for every mans need
But not every mans greed

swoody · 04-02-2014 11:24pm

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

3 bids for Coentrao, only one 89 player in sight, tonnes of cash

Do I need to make an illustration of the instructions I gave in the last post :pac:

draw me like you would draw a french girl........ :pac:

ctrl-alt-delete · 04-02-2014 11:30pm

Just for future reference,

Unmanaged clubs will buy players. I'm sure it was mentioned when we were discussing the issue that they would neither be able to sell nor buy.

I am pretty sure that is not true, upon going back to Genoa, 3 deals fell through, all players that play for Genoa in real life that are at externals in the game.

So i had a look at Rangers and West Brom, and they have both signed players while being unmanaged, Anelka and Rosenberg to West Brom a couple of days ago for example. As stated somewhere on SM they will try to buy the players they can that will make them as close to the real life club as they can.

So that pot of money I was trying to build up would have been wasted on wages and players, I could have avoided so much trouble :rolleyes:

ctrl-alt-delete · 04-02-2014 11:34pm

phobia2011 wrote: »

got my arse handed to me!
well done genoa!

willing to part with wilfred bony- P/E only, he was my ace card

start of a new era and all that!

The youngsters done me well, Wouldn't mind a nice cup run.

Bony still managed to get MotM.

Lord TSC · 04-02-2014 11:37pm

I am massively against squad limits, especially being brought in after 3 seasons.

I genuinely don't think it causes half the problems some people seem to think it does. There are still loads of good young players available at externals, and if people take the time, they can get into the "hoovering" of the younger talents as well. As has been said, people with 200+ players will have a harder time bidding for such players....but then a lot of the time, the players aren't even coming under bidding wars. How many of the 200+ players Juvi have even had more than 2 people interested in them at a time?

I've got a squad of over 80 right now; I can't imagine there's more than about 20 of those players who would get massive attention if I started selling. And what then, prey tell, would people do with the 50m they'd have extra sitting in the bank? Leave it to rot?

swoody · 04-02-2014 11:40pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I am massively against squad limits, especially being brought in after 3 seasons.

I genuinely don't think it causes half the problems some people seem to think it does. There are still loads of good young players available at externals, and if people take the time, they can get into the "hoovering" of the younger talents as well. As has been said, people with 200+ players will have a harder time bidding for such players....but then a lot of the time, the players aren't even coming under bidding wars. How many of the 200+ players Juvi have even had more than 2 people interested in them at a time?

I've got a squad of over 80 right now; I can't imagine there's more than about 20 of those players who would get massive attention if I started selling. And what then, prey tell, would people do with the 50m they'd have extra sitting in the bank? Leave it to rot?

*young players that is

The Governor · 04-02-2014 11:54pm

I'd be fully in support of a squad cap, 50 would be a decent limit. It could be in place for season 5 if it was agreed upon, that way teams would have plenty of time to get sorted.

Sorry lads I know some are against it but there are nearly as many in support of it.

This keeps coming up so often I dare say it's time to have a proper vote on it.

KERSPLAT! · 04-02-2014 11:56pm

The Governor wrote: »

I'd be fully in support of a squad cap, 50 would be a decent limit. It could be in place for season 5 if it was agreed upon, that way teams would have plenty of time to get sorted.

Sorry lads I know some are against it but there are nearly as many in support of it.

This keeps coming up so often I dare say it's time to have a proper vote on it.

Poll!!

Rayne Wooney · 04-02-2014 11:56pm

The people against it will just not sell their players and there isn't anything that can be done to make them

ctrl-alt-delete · 04-02-2014 11:57pm

I'd be fully supportive of a squad cap too,

But to be fair we would have to set it at the current highest squad number so as not to force anyone into selling players, i don't think new rules should have a retrospective power.

eireannBEAR · 04-02-2014 11:58pm

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Poll!!

No dude edward owns the GW and he has 200 players,how can you ask him to agree to this??

KERSPLAT! · 05-02-2014 12:02am

eireannBEAR wrote: »

No dude edward owns the GW and he has 200 players,how can you ask him to agree to this??

I really don't care either way. It was Mac that said he'd do a poll if something was up for discussion, it doesn't bother me if he does or doesn't, you're right, it's his GW to do with as he pleases

he's been very accommodating so far as we all know!!

As for the cap, the Copa del Boards one will be coming in soon, will be interesting to see how it goes. Very hard to regulate

I have no real opinion on it anymore to be honest

KERSPLAT! · 05-02-2014 12:03am

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

The people against it will just not sell their players and there isn't anything that can be done to make them

Yeah, pretty much. Very hard rule to enforce though they did go through the effort of scouting and signing so why should they..

I'm 50/50

GT_TDI_150 · 05-02-2014 12:05am

Lads,

SM have introduced some measures to deal with largers squads ( e.g. 50% wage for loaned out players)

It is not something that can be turned on or off so no point voting on it as it wasnt agreed when the GW was set up as it was over in the Copa. It cant be enforced.

We've voted on things that can be controlled by SM or the owner and this CAN NOT be controlled.

FCP ( squad of 68)

Tinie · 05-02-2014 12:08am

A poll is the best option as it seems to be fifty fifty decision split.

But at the end of the day its a trivial internet game so im not too bothered either way. It would make it far more fun and fair though if squads were capped though...

KERSPLAT! · 05-02-2014 12:09am

I've 51, could easily manage with 30/35. If it were to come in it'd be rough aul going on the lads with 100+! Though I'm not sure how many there are!?

The Governor · 05-02-2014 12:10am

You could always have a charter rule saying anyone breaking the limit would be refused to be dealt with transfer wise, isn't that what Copa had? It would be grand just the Copa world but there's nowhere near as many as active as this one.

GT_TDI_150 · 05-02-2014 12:11am

Tinie wrote: »

A poll is the best option as it seems to be fifty fifty decision split.

But at the end of the day its a trivial internet game so im not too bothered either way. It would make it far more fun and fair though if squads were capped though...

They arent capped in any SM controlled GW ... I dont see why this is such a big issue for people here (not aimed at Tinie btw)

GT_TDI_150 · 05-02-2014 12:11am

The Governor wrote: »

You could always have a charter rule saying anyone breaking the limit would be refused to be dealt with transfer wise, isn't that what Copa had? It would be grand just the Copa world but there's nowhere near as many as active as this one.

ANd copa had this in from day one, anyone signing up to it was aware of it

swoody · 05-02-2014 12:13am

The Governor · 05-02-2014 12:14am

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

ANd copa had this in from day one, anyone signing up to it was aware of it

Yes and if you wanted to introduce it here you needn't actually begin to try and implement it until season 5 or so, that would be practically 2 whole seasons to get in order.

GT_TDI_150 · 05-02-2014 12:16am

swoody wrote: »

Eventhough I'm probably going to by up to my ankles in water soon with all this rain and wind ... I still found time to laugh at that ... brilliant!

GT_TDI_150 · 05-02-2014 12:19am

Said it before ... ANYONE can buy ANY amount of players ... why not spend your time finding players?

Maldjd23 · 05-02-2014 12:37am

Jesus...What have i started!!!??...I was only joking!!!

The Governor · 05-02-2014 12:42am

Maldjd23 wrote: »

Jesus...What have i started!!!??...I was only joking!!!

Haha I know.

However the joke seems to have indicated it is something a lot of lads would like to vote on.

Don't think it will happen myself buts it's obvious each camp have a lot of support on this issue tbh.

Danger781 · 05-02-2014 1:03am

I leave for a few hours and come back to shed loads of spam..

Are the mods asleep?

GT_TDI_150 · 05-02-2014 1:14am

Danger781 wrote: »

I leave for a few hours and come back to shed loads of spam..

Are the mods asleep?

Sssssh, you'll wake them up!

swoody · 05-02-2014 1:40am

Danger781 wrote: »

I leave for a few hours and come back to shed loads of spam..

Are the mods asleep?

shed loads of spam you say.........

no problem.

Danger781 · 05-02-2014 1:48am

Ah lads don't be clogging this thread up as well..

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