Kildare GAA General Discussion Thread

Lemlin · 25-07-2012 8:58am

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

How lemlin
Because I said in general Kildare people are not moaning apart from few here and a couple of mongos on KFM??

What my debating skills entail has no significance here I suggest you high tail it back to the Cavan thread.

We will never see eye to eye as you use google to drag up facts and tbh I find it boring sitting at a computer trying to argue with your Internet search engine!!!!

A discussion forum is basically a place for the debating of points so if you feel that your "debating skills" have "no significance" then IMO you are hugely mistaken.

You said that Kildare fans in general are not moaning or claiming a conspiracy theory about the ground change. In your next post, you then stated that you were sick of listening to people on KFM giving out about the location.

Now, do you understand that's a contradiction or do you want me to draw a diagram?

As for the rest of your earlier posts:

1. Kildare debt is a national discussion point. It's been discussed by people from Derry (Joe Brolly), Mayo (Kevin McStay) and Kerry (Pat Spillane). As well as plenty of other counties so I will continue to discuss it.

2. You have already contradicted this point yourself with your reference to KFM.

3. No-one is spilling poision. I was expressing an opinion.

4. Yes, still in the championship but, for a team that ye lads were calling the 4th best for the All Ireland at the start of the championship, have ye performed to your expectations? Given that the manager has now had 5 years at the helm?

5. I'm glad for you that you love travelling. However, it would appear that other Kildare fans do not given the level of moaning about the location which you have referred to yourself.

6. What grievances? I am expressing an opinion. We're back to this problem that, if anyone raises even a slightly negative opinion about KIldare, they're on a witch hunt. That said, some fans want to move the game further away to Clones so I guess some do love travelling.

7. Why Johnston was dropped by Cavan has already been discussed on numerous occasions. I'm not going to go over the point yet AGAIN. Interesting you brought it in though as I didn't mention Johnston in my post.

Dcully · 25-07-2012 11:18am

Id just like to know why is Lemlin obsessed with hatred for Kildare?
Im a member of this forum for many years and in all my time ive never seen such bitterness and what apprears to be genuine hatred directed at a team/personality or whatever on a consistent basis.

Whats the craic man?
Why so much hate?
There are countless posts from you having a go at Kildare at every opportunity.
Come on you can tell us,we are here to help

Were you attacked by a flock of sheep on the Curragh or something and forever hold a grudge for Kildare folks?

Seriously though your posts in general once not about Kildare are decent but once Kildare comes into the frame you go ape **** on us

largepants · 25-07-2012 1:18pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Here we go again, a slightly negative opinion is given and someone has an obsession and hatred. I used to have the same levelled at me about Dublin.

The opinion I give is my honest opinion of Kildare. They are hugely hyped by the media for a number of reasons IMO:

1. The former darlings of the media, Dublin, have actually won something so the media have moved on from them.
2. McGeeney is constanly creating stories for the media with his downright arrogance against the GAA. At this stage, its at proposterous levels.
3. The large population in Kildare.
4. The hard training and dedication they give has become almost legend like in the media.

I also think its true to say that neutral support for them is waning. Alot of it was lost through the Johnston debacle and it now continues with matters such as questioning venues and the constant whingeing about how hard done by the team are by McGeeney.

If others are like me, they're also probably sick of hearing myths about how this team must be the fittest on the planet and Kieran McGeeney practically eats small animals for strength he craves success that much.

I've also pointed out on a numerous of occasions that they are by no means the fourth best team in Ireland IMO and won't be until they beat a top side. Is that incorrect? Would you agree with lads on here saying Kildare are the 4th best team in Ireland? I wouldn't. They're in a group of teams after Kerry, Cork, Dublin and Donegal for me, alongside Mayo, Tyrone and it could be even argued Down or Meath. Yet, when I point this out, I'm accused of being baised and a hatred.

What would you say I have said that is overly negative? I'd be interested in seeing some of your examples.

My opinion probably comes across worse though because I find myself disagreeing with the points made by the likes of Dark Knight and Diego Maradona, which are often easily proved wrong. Then another Kildare poster, Mightysticks, tried to tell me on another thread that he had watched Gearoid McKiernan play online and on TV on numerous occasions yet, at the time, McKiernan had only played in two matches that were televised. Perhaps if some of the posters from the county based their items more on fact than fiction then I wouldn't constantly find myself having to wade through the tripe spouted to point out the actual fact of the matter in question e.g. the choice of ground argument directly above.

I'd like to respond to your post above if I may.

By your own admission you wrote that Kildare were overhyped by the media. Why then do you insist on having a cut at Kildare GAA and it fans? Should it not be the media where you should be focussing your mudslinging?

I'm not getting this McGeeney creating stories crack at all? What stories has he created?

I'm not sure why the neutral support is waning stuff should unduly worry anyone in Kildare. If you were openminded enough you would have noticed that McGeeneys Kildare have been the focus of a lot of ridicule throughout his reign from fans of certain countys'. The terms gym monkeys, linear Leinster Champions and best second half team in Ireland have followed his team around for several years now and I know where it's coming from. This Kildare team have got knocked back in the media, in Dublin, in Meath and on the pitch and keep coming back for more. I'm at a loss to explain why some Dublin and Meath people feel the need to constantly dig and dig at this team. I'm not necessarily talking about Dublin and Meath people on boards either.

As a Kildare fan I'm entitled to believe in my team. I'm entitled to hope that we'll beat Dublin, Cork, Kerry or Donegal. If I don't have hope I've nothing.

What I don't need is the constant bitching and sneering from other successful and not so successful countys'. Like every other team in the country we're only going to try and win a trophy of two every year. No doubt I'll be accused of being paranoid but since McGeeneys has taken over this team been ridiculed and vilified for one reason of the other throughout his reign.

Its tiresome and old and boring at this stage. Sometimes one would think is this what the GAA is all about? Its becoming similar to the EPL. However its heartening to see what the Kerry fans did down in Killarney last weekends.

People should move on. All McGeeney is doing is trying to make Kildare competitive again. Considering where we were before 2008 I'd like to think he has somewhat succeeded. From the gym monkeys to the Fermanagh game to Benny Coulters 'goal' to the SJ saga- there has been some reason for people to have a go at him every year. I can't fathom why Dublin and Meath people should feel so threatened when Kildare are not even a super power of GAA.

Thatnastyboy · 25-07-2012 1:18pm

So basically you hate Kildare then, much shorter to write than the spiel above

StupidLikeAFox · 25-07-2012 1:22pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Would you agree with lads on here saying Kildare are the 4th best team in Ireland? I wouldn't.

I can safely say I haven't seen this mentioned by any Kildare poster or otherwise in a long time. Before the championship, we were potentially a top four team, we are definitely not at the races this year though.

I think Kildare are seeing the negative effects of raising their profile over the past number of years. Every small action or comment gets a ridiculous amout of attention. I can understand the flak over the SJ affair as it fairly unique, but a simple request to change venue which was denied. It was a fair opinion to have, and these requests go in the whole time, the only people dwelling on it seem to be those going on about Kildare being whingers

As for Sligo, I hope we can for once begin to get some consistency in midfield. I wouldnt be looking forward to the next round though, the way we are playing now if we came across any sort of a decent team we would be wiped out

DARK-KNIGHT · 25-07-2012 2:14pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Here we go again, a slightly negative opinion is given and someone has an obsession and hatred. I used to have the same levelled at me about Dublin.

The opinion I give is my honest opinion of Kildare. They are hugely hyped by the media for a number of reasons IMO:

1. The former darlings of the media, Dublin, have actually won something so the media have moved on from them.
2. McGeeney is constanly creating stories for the media with his downright arrogance against the GAA. At this stage, its at proposterous levels.
3. The large population in Kildare.
4. The hard training and dedication they give has become almost legend like in the media.

I also think its true to say that neutral support for them is waning. Alot of it was lost through the Johnston debacle and it now continues with matters such as questioning venues and the constant whingeing about how hard done by the team are by McGeeney.

If others are like me, they're also probably sick of hearing myths about how this team must be the fittest on the planet and Kieran McGeeney practically eats small animals for strength he craves success that much.

I've also pointed out on a numerous of occasions that they are by no means the fourth best team in Ireland IMO and won't be until they beat a top side. Is that incorrect? Would you agree with lads on here saying Kildare are the 4th best team in Ireland? I wouldn't. They're in a group of teams after Kerry, Cork, Dublin and Donegal for me, alongside Mayo, Tyrone and it could be even argued Down or Meath. Yet, when I point this out, I'm accused of being baised and a hatred.

What would you say I have said that is overly negative? I'd be interested in seeing some of your examples.

My opinion probably comes across worse though because I find myself disagreeing with the points made by the likes of Dark Knight and Diego Maradona, which are often easily proved wrong. Then another Kildare poster, Mightysticks, tried to tell me on another thread that he had watched Gearoid McKiernan play online and on TV on numerous occasions yet, at the time, McKiernan had only played in two matches that were televised. Perhaps if some of the posters from the county based their items more on fact than fiction then I wouldn't constantly find myself having to wade through the tripe spouted to point out the actual fact of the matter in question e.g. the choice of ground argument directly above.

What points were proved wrong now? You dislike me because I won't listen to your jealousy and dribble here!!!

You have serious issues re Kildare lemlin you know you do!!

You had same grievances to dublin for two or three seasons there and when Dublin deservedly won the AI you chose to turn all your bitterness towards Kildare and there fans and in particular geezer!! And when Johnston put his request through Is when your anti Kildare crap reached an all time high!! It's actually sad I feel sorry for you tbh. Why don't you involve yourself more with Cavan instead of trolling the Kildare forum?

As for you commenting on anyone's debating skills etc how dare you lord it above anyone here I don't reply in detail for reasons
1 have no access to a keyboard just iPhone

2 have young family who I care for during daytime so can't take time out to have a moronic debate on this forum

3 I work in evenings so I get about 45 minutes to myself a day do you think I'm going to spend that arguing with a Cavan man about Kildare football??

You are the most hateful poster I have met tbh between you belittling an excellent Dublin side who eventually shut you up by winning Sam btw well done Dublin I commend you for that

!!! And you then draw attention on Kildare like ffs cop on will you? Anyone can sit in an office googling gaa facts lemlin and make themselves appear knowledgable but let's face it that's what you are doing!!! You wouldn't reply to my post last night till you googled away in work would you??

We are all adults here lemlin I suggest you start acting like one and give up this bitterness towards Kildare and formerly the dubs til they shut you up!!!!

You go on like the problem with Cavan football is fans not supporting I think I remembered you saying that!! IMO you have a superiority complex now cop on please it's getting old lemlin

Would you like it if Dublin fans or Kildare fans came into Cavan thread trolling? Think about that one I can't believe this trolling from you has gotten this far

I have serious issues with you now your a cyber bully between having a go at Diego although last few posts were out of line or any Kildare fans you trying to upset people!!!

Try doing something worthwhile with your life like some work while your actually in work!!?? Unemployment isn't fun save yourself the embarrassment and do some work while you still have a job!!

Felexicon · 25-07-2012 2:22pm

Jesus christ lads, talk about throwing the toys out of the pram.
Lemlin is perfectly entitled to his opinion of Kildare and while I don't agree with all of his points, I know from previous threads that he will be willing to put forward an informed arguement for his feelings.
As for crying about Meath people hating Kildare GAA, it's because Kildare are relevant to the championship now. In years past, as harsh as it is to say you just weren't good enough to worry about.

@ColHol: If you want to see posters claiming Kildare are a top 4 team just look at the first few pages of the Championship 2012 thread.

largepants · 25-07-2012 2:31pm

Felexicon wrote: »

Jesus christ lads, talk about throwing the toys out of the pram.
Lemlin is perfectly entitled to his opinion of Kildare and while I don't agree with all of his points, I know from previous threads that he will be willing to put forward an informed arguement for his feelings.
As for crying about Meath people hating Kildare GAA, it's because Kildare are relevant to the championship now. In years past, as harsh as it is to say you just weren't good enough to worry about.

@ColHol: If you want to see posters claiming Kildare are a top 4 team just look at the first few pages of the Championship 2012 thread.

This is exactly what I mean. I simply wrote it down and now its being its being twisted by you to say I was 'crying'. I mean seriously wtf?

Felexicon · 25-07-2012 2:36pm

largepants wrote: »

This is exactly what I mean. I simply wrote it down and now its being its being twisted by you to say I was 'crying'. I mean seriously wtf?

Eh do you need an ambulance for the level 5 knicker twist you're having there.
It's just a turn of phrase pal, didn't mean anything by it

largepants · 25-07-2012 2:44pm

Felexicon wrote: »

Eh do you need an ambulance for the level 5 knicker twist you're having there.
It's just a turn of phrase pal, didn't mean anything by it

So I'm not entitled to my opinion as well as Lemlin then? Or is my opinion just a knickers twist?

Felexicon · 25-07-2012 2:46pm

largepants wrote: »

So I'm not entitled to my opinion as well as Lemlin then? Or is my opinion just a knickers twist?

Of course you're entitled to your opinion. To say you are crying is just a phrase I use when someone is giving out about something. If it offended you I'm sorry

solarith · 25-07-2012 2:49pm

Came into thread for a look, and off I go. Jesus.

Dcully · 25-07-2012 2:51pm

Felexicon wrote: »

Jesus christ lads, talk about throwing the toys out of the pram.
Lemlin is perfectly entitled to his opinion of Kildare and while I don't agree with all of his points, I know from previous threads that he will be willing to put forward an informed arguement for his feelings.
As for crying about Meath people hating Kildare GAA, it's because Kildare are relevant to the championship now. In years past, as harsh as it is to say you just weren't good enough to worry about.

@ColHol: If you want to see posters claiming Kildare are a top 4 team just look at the first few pages of the Championship 2012 thread.

There is expressing opinion and being obesssive and trolling.
FFS i have opinions on many things, if there are threads on here about them i might have a say or i might not, i dont spam the same old opinion over and over again.
We know his feelings on Kildare, jaysus many of us Kildare fans agree we are overhyped, its not our fault.
But to spam the same old lines time and time again suggests he is either a troll or has a genuine hatred for Kildare.

Please dont even attempt to say he is just expressing an opinion,its turned into a bloody crusade at this stage - hell of a difference.

beertons · 25-07-2012 3:00pm

Think it's time to unsub from here too.

largepants · 25-07-2012 3:16pm

Felexicon wrote: »

Of course you're entitled to your opinion. To say you are crying is just a phrase I use when someone is giving out about something. If it offended you I'm sorry

You didn't offend me at all. I'm made of sterner stuff than that.

Lemlin · 25-07-2012 3:19pm

largepants wrote: »

I'd like to respond to your post above if I may.

By your own admission you wrote that Kildare were overhyped by the media. Why then do you insist on having a cut at Kildare GAA and it fans? Should it not be the media where you should be focussing your mudslinging?

I'm not getting this McGeeney creating stories crack at all? What stories has he created?

I'm not sure why the neutral support is waning stuff should unduly worry anyone in Kildare. If you were openminded enough you would have noticed that McGeeneys Kildare have been the focus of a lot of ridicule throughout his reign from fans of certain countys'. The terms gym monkeys, linear Leinster Champions and best second half team in Ireland have followed his team around for several years now and I know where it's coming from. This Kildare team have got knocked back in the media, in Dublin, in Meath and on the pitch and keep coming back for more. I'm at a loss to explain why some Dublin and Meath people feel the need to constantly dig and dig at this team. I'm not necessarily talking about Dublin and Meath people on boards either.

As a Kildare fan I'm entitled to believe in my team. I'm entitled to hope that we'll beat Dublin, Cork, Kerry or Donegal. If I don't have hope I've nothing.

What I don't need is the constant bitching and sneering from other successful and not so successful countys'. Like every other team in the country we're only going to try and win a trophy of two every year. No doubt I'll be accused of being paranoid but since McGeeneys has taken over this team been ridiculed and vilified for one reason of the other throughout his reign.

Its tiresome and old and boring at this stage. Sometimes one would think is this what the GAA is all about? Its becoming similar to the EPL. However its heartening to see what the Kerry fans did down in Killarney last weekends.

People should move on. All McGeeney is doing is trying to make Kildare competitive again. Considering where we were before 2008 I'd like to think he has somewhat succeeded. From the gym monkeys to the Fermanagh game to Benny Coulters 'goal' to the SJ saga- there has been some reason for people to have a go at him every year. I can't fathom why Dublin and Meath people should feel so threatened when Kildare are not even a super power of GAA.

And I would like to respond also.

To be honest I think Kildare and McGeeney add to the type. The media didn't create the whole Johnston furore. Its not the media that disagreed with the location of their qualifier the last two weeks in a row. It was the Kildare County Board and I'd believe McGeeney had a hand in it. It's also not the media who give the ridiculous Roy Keane-style post and pre match interviews that McGeeney gives.

McGeeney has created plenty of stories by acting exactly as I've said above. After the Cavan game, for example, he had a go at an Irish Times journalist for attempting to ask him about the atmosphere of the Cavan supporters. Is there any need for that? I don't think so. He could have just answered the question rather than be arrogant and launch into expletives. Last year he roared at a group of journalists to go and write what they wanted, that they wouldn't be "using him" for their stores.

I'm a Cavan supporter and I'm entitled to believe in my team. That doesn't mean though that I'd come on and label them the 4th best team in Ireland as was discussed by the Kildare supporters on here in the Championship thread. Even after the loss to Meath, who are by no means a top team at this stage, you had supporters on here stating that Kildare would be back for Sam. You may label that hope, but I'd see it as arrogance. If the team I'd support had just lost, I'd be talking down their chances, not adding to the hype.

So I hate Kildare because I pointed out that Clones was a ridiculous location for a KIldare/Sligo game and I then pointed out that Kildare are losing alot of neutral support IMO? You mightn't agree with what I say but debate it as you have. I've no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is my opinions being labelled hate and a crusade because they aren't what Kildare posters want to hear. This forum is for discussion and I'm open to discussion on these topics as you have done.

Felexicon · 25-07-2012 3:24pm

largepants wrote: »

You didn't offend me at all. I'm made of sterner stuff than that.

Cool good to know.

Back on topic I think Kildare will have far too much for Sligo on Saturday.
This Kildare team are a serious outfit and you don't become a bad team overnight. They were poor against Meath, probably didn't take Limerick seriously enough but showed the gulf in class in extra time. They are slowly gaining momentum and another improvement in Saturdays game would leave them fearing none of the provincial champions.
Kildare will be a tough task for any of the 4 out of Dublin,Cork,Mayo and Donegal. They'll be ready having played week in week out while the others have got an extended break. With the obvious fitness work and squad use I just don't see Kildare losing because of fatigue

rebel girl 15 · 25-07-2012 3:27pm

Last night, I asked for posters not to continue personal vendettas against each other, it is dragging the whole thread off topic. Dark Knight and Lemlin are both banned for a week because of continued sniping at each other that has spanned across a number of threads - all posters need to be aware of the charter and the strict enforcement of it for not only July, but the rest of championship. It is not fair on the rest of the posters and lurkers here that threads are completely dragged off topic mainly because of two posters.

Felexicon · 25-07-2012 3:30pm

Dcully wrote: »

There is expressing opinion and being obesssive and trolling.
FFS i have opinions on many things, if there are threads on here about them i might have a say or i might not, i dont spam the same old opinion over and over again.
We know his feelings on Kildare, jaysus many of us Kildare fans agree we are overhyped, its not our fault.
But to spam the same old lines time and time again suggests he is either a troll or has a genuine hatred for Kildare.

Please dont even attempt to say he is just expressing an opinion,its turned into a bloody crusade at this stage - hell of a difference.

Maybe you're right. It's probably a lot easier for me to take a step back as I'm not from Kildare.
Anyway the right decision has been made and he has a week to cool his jets.

razor425 · 25-07-2012 3:35pm

Felexicon wrote: »

Cool good to know.

Back on topic I think Kildare will have far too much for Sligo on Saturday.
This Kildare team are a serious outfit and you don't become a bad team overnight. They were poor against Meath, probably didn't take Limerick seriously enough but showed the gulf in class in extra time. They are slowly gaining momentum and another improvement in Saturdays game would leave them fearing none of the provincial champions.
Kildare will be a tough task for any of the 4 out of Dublin,Cork,Mayo and Donegal. They'll be ready having played week in week out while the others have got an extended break. With the obvious fitness work and squad use I just don't see Kildare losing because of fatigue

I personally can see Kildare struggling badly against Sligo and I feel it is a hurdle they may not overcome. With regard to being a tough game for any of the 4 provincial winners I can only really see you having a decent chance against Mayo and possibly Dublin if they continue playing like they have the last 2 games. I feel Donegal and Cork would beat Kildare fairly comfortably at this stage. Having said that after Kerry, Kildare are probably the 2nd or 3rd best team left in the qualifiers.

Dcully · 25-07-2012 3:39pm

After the poor showings overall against Meath and Limerick im worried about Sligo.
We could either kick on and get by Sligo convincingly or struggle and maybe lose.
We are so unpredictable this year.

Lago · 25-07-2012 4:34pm

Dcully wrote: »

After the poor showings overall against Meath and Limerick im worried about Sligo.
We could either kick on and get by Sligo convincingly or struggle and maybe lose.
We are so unpredictable this year.

I think we're very predictable actually. We play worse then expected against everyone. Possibly because Kildare are over-hyped. We're a Quarter-Final team, nothing more

Sunnyisland · 25-07-2012 5:07pm

One would have to fancy Kildare coming off the back off two wins rather than Sligo who were pretty poor in the connacht final.Having said that given that Sligo play the sort of game Kildare seem to struggle against , A few weeks regroup and with Kildare only seven days after being taken to extra time Sligo just might surprise them.

To Alcohol · 25-07-2012 5:29pm

Was only in the last 10 mins or so and extra time when Kildare really broke Limerick down. It's not because Limerick were tiring it's because Kildare got their finger out and changed their gameplan. The long ball in to O'Connor is far too easy to defend against. Limerick were able to play a man just in front of him and any long ball won meant he was quickly swallowed up. Sligo are surely basing their game plan on exactly the same tactic from Kildare again and that's also what they did to Mayo.

Run at them from deep, players overlapping, good diagonal balls and you'll draw them out and only then pop off the pass to the player coming from deep. We absolutely destroyed Limerick when we played like this. We do the same against Sligo and I'd be confident of beating them.

Vinnie222 · 25-07-2012 5:40pm

Kildare are over hyped Limerick were out in their feet with 10 mins to go (extra time the week before probably cost them as well as missing a few players ) so think Sligo will edge a poor contest

largepants · 25-07-2012 6:32pm

Felexicon wrote: »

Cool good to know.

Back on topic I think Kildare will have far too much for Sligo on Saturday.
This Kildare team are a serious outfit and you don't become a bad team overnight. They were poor against Meath, probably didn't take Limerick seriously enough but showed the gulf in class in extra time. They are slowly gaining momentum and another improvement in Saturdays game would leave them fearing none of the provincial champions.
Kildare will be a tough task for any of the 4 out of Dublin,Cork,Mayo and Donegal. They'll be ready having played week in week out while the others have got an extended break. With the obvious fitness work and squad use I just don't see Kildare losing because of fatigue

Ok here we go again. I'm not going to agree with you.:)

This Kildare team were a serious outfit but some for reason or another we're looking very flat this year. Despite our success in Breffni it was obvious to me that there still was something missing. We scored 3-20 but people seem to forget Cavan kicked 15/16 wides. The Kildare of last year wouldn't have given any team that many chances. That statistic was glossed over because of SJ scoring a point.

I had serious reservations on Kildare going into last week and there is nothing I've seen in the Limerick game to ease my worries. We had no ideas how to break down the Limerick defensive system. Yes we pulled away in et but Limerick were out on their feet by then and that probably made us look decent.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong but I'll be bringing a spare of underwear with me this weekend as well. It'll be another war of attrition and its going to be mighty tight.

grenache · 25-07-2012 6:45pm

Laois will surely look at Limerick's tactics against you guys, and setup their defence in a similar system. Limerick played no.10 Padraig Browne as a sweeper in front of their half back line, and it was very effective in stopping Kildare's runners - until that injury time Bolton point that is!

I would still expect you to beat Laois. But would worry when you come up against the likes of Donegal, Cork or Kerry. It's a little even more worrying when you consider Limerick were missing probably their two best players in John Galvin and Stephen Lavin. You need more diagonal ball to go into Doyle and Smyth. I feel there is an over-reliance on hitting O'Connor with high ball. Stephen Lucey had him in his pocket for much of Saturday night.

I really hope Kildare progress to the semis at least. I've yet to see a better more passionate group of fans in the championship. A1 in terms of support.

Felexicon · 25-07-2012 6:50pm

I think Kildare are far more physical than this Sligo team and over 70 minutes that will tell. Also the only option Sligo had in the Connaught final off the bench was a very old looking Eammon O'Hara.
The only thing that Sligo can hope to do is get off to a blistering start and have the ball in the net in the first 15 mins.
I think Kildare are a classic case of simply beating what's on front of them. When they face tougher opposition in Croke Park they'll raise thier game.

Jesus I'm starting to sound like I want Kildare to win.

Felexicon · 25-07-2012 6:52pm

grenache wrote: »

SLIGO will surely look at Limerick's tactics against you guys, and setup their defence in a similar system. Limerick played no.10 Padraig Browne as a sweeper in front of their half back line, and it was very effective in stopping Kildare's runners - until that injury time Bolton point that is!

I would still expect you to beat SLIGO. But would worry when you come up against the likes of Donegal, Cork or Kerry. It's a little even more worrying when you consider Limerick were missing probably their two best players in John Galvin and Stephen Lavin. You need more diagonal ball to go into Doyle and Smyth. I feel there is an over-reliance on hitting O'Connor with high ball. Stephen Lucey had him in his pocket for much of Saturday night.

I really hope Kildare progress to the semis at least. I've yet to see a better more passionate group of fans in the championship. A1 in terms of support.

FYP!!!!:D

grenache · 25-07-2012 6:54pm

Felexicon wrote: »

grenache wrote: »

SLIGO will surely look at Limerick's tactics against you guys, and setup their defence in a similar system. Limerick played no.10 Padraig Browne as a sweeper in front of their half back line, and it was very effective in stopping Kildare's runners - until that injury time Bolton point that is!

I would still expect you to beat SLIGO. But would worry when you come up against the likes of Donegal, Cork or Kerry. It's a little even more worrying when you consider Limerick were missing probably their two best players in John Galvin and Stephen Lavin. You need more diagonal ball to go into Doyle and Smyth. I feel there is an over-reliance on hitting O'Connor with high ball. Stephen Lucey had him in his pocket for much of Saturday night.

I really hope Kildare progress to the semis at least. I've yet to see a better more passionate group of fans in the championship. A1 in terms of support.

FYP!!!!:D

Sorry my bad! Got ye confused with Meath there for a moment. You'll still beat Sligo. And should do so comfortably too.

Best of luck to ye.

Felexicon · 25-07-2012 6:56pm

grenache wrote: »

Sorry my bad! Got ye confused with Meath there for a moment. You'll still beat Sligo. And should do so comfortably too.

Best of luck to ye.

Eh.......Are you fúking with me right now

CHECK MY LOCATION

Diego Maradona · 25-07-2012 9:06pm

Back on topic!!

My team for Saturday:

1)Connolly.
2)P Kelly
3)Foley
4)Lyons
5)McGrillen
6)Bolton
7)E Doyle
8)R Kelly
9)P O'Neill
10)E O'Flaherty
11)Conway
12)Kavanagh
13)JD
14)TOC
15)Johnston

That would leave a decent bench of, Smith, Callaghan (even if only 70%), White, McLoughlin and Earley.

Also good result for the U21 hurlers tonight.

Leinster U21 'A' Hurling Final
Wednesday 25th July 2012
Kildare 2-14 Meath 1-16 Result

lilywhites28 · 26-07-2012 1:20am

Grenache nice of you to say so about the kildare support. We mighten have any major silverware of yet and the same one liners are throwing at us year on year out but your right we do have remarkable support. They follow the team and get behind them no questions asked. You only have to look at the cavan game. That was an away game after a meath loss. 11,000 turned up. An army of white also rolled into portlaoise on saturday last. They are very passionate about their football and their team especially this team under mcgeeney. I hope one day the kildare supporters will get their day in the sun.

Dcully · 26-07-2012 10:42am

lilywhites28 wrote: »

Grenache nice of you to say so about the kildare support. We mighten have any major silverware of yet and the same one liners are throwing at us year on year out but your right we do have remarkable support. They follow the team and get behind them no questions asked. You only have to look at the cavan game. That was an away game after a meath loss. 11,000 turned up. An army of white also rolled into portlaoise on saturday last. They are very passionate about their football and their team especially this team under mcgeeney. I hope one day the kildare supporters will get their day in the sun.

The fans on Saturday night were very definitely the extra man, the support when the team needed it was superb, fantastic atmosphere.
Whenever we are playing in Portlaoise my wife usually travels too but to visit her good friend who lives near the stadium, its also a handy parking spot for me

But they were saying they have never heard such a loud crowd as Saturday nights.

Long Term Louth · 26-07-2012 6:52pm

This thread is not the same without The Dark Knight!!!

Sunnyisland · 26-07-2012 7:38pm

Long Term Louth wrote: »

This thread is not the same without The Dark Knight!!!

Or lemlin

:D

lilywhites28 · 26-07-2012 8:15pm

Dcully we always travel in numbers but lets hope that many wont be to put off by the 6:30 start and get behind them in Roscommon to. The kildare supporters have been tremendous so far in the qualifier campaign. Lets do all we can to help the lads saturday evening. They are 70 mins away from a quarter final spot. They will raise their game. They are going to have to. Play to our full potential and we put ourselves in a good position. Play like we did first half v limerick and well...lets not go there. Any news on the team? Have they been named? Team selection will be interesting although expect changes to the one that is named. Midfield pairing? Foley to stay put or not that is the question...?

Bizzum · 27-07-2012 12:32am

realies wrote: »

Or lemlin :D

The voice of reason. I check out this forum to read Lemlin's posts. The kildare reaction to the truth amuses me.

lilywhites28 · 27-07-2012 1:55am

Back to whats important. The qualifier match v sligo. We are still in the running. A huge performance is going to be needed. Really looking forward to it. Come on the lilywhites.

kencoo · 27-07-2012 1:46pm

Kildare are not in the top 4 teams in ireland at the moment based on previous performances in the past 6 weeks.
Nevertheless we remain in the competition and will battle on into the next round and can only take one game at a time. Ultimately, Kildare are a better team than Sligo based on statistics since January should win.
What make me nervous though is that when plan A - i.e. kick the ball to O Connor to Lay off doesnt work why do we keep trying over and over again? I thought that we could have learned something from the Donegal game last year? obviously not.
Sligo will be a similar but better set up to Limerick (who should have beaten us had they played past 60 minutes). How about O connor at Mid field instead and let Smith/Kavanagh/Fogarty/Johnston upfront? too radical?

StupidLikeAFox · 27-07-2012 4:01pm

kencoo wrote: »

How about O connor at Mid field instead and let Smith/Kavanagh/Fogarty/Johnston upfront? too radical?

I dont know how this hasnt been tried out before now. Its a good idea and might work but we should have known whether it was an option during the league instead of trying it out for the first time at the tail end of July!

ronaneire · 27-07-2012 8:06pm

Hey, anyone going to Roscommon tomorrow evening but don't have tickets. I have two free ones up for grabs. Send me a private message if interested.

Mods if not allowed please remove. Thanks.

keane2097 · 27-07-2012 9:51pm

Did a quick preview on the game if anyone's interested here:

http://www.livegaelic.com/news/sligo-vs-kildare-gaa-football-qualifier-preview-2012/

Sunnyisland · 29-07-2012 11:51am

Where are all the kildare posters, Still celebrating :-)

Whats your thoughts on the draw and will/are you up to beat Cork ?

Donkeygonads · 29-07-2012 1:38pm

As lads have said before, the Championship starts now, there are no easy games from here on in so you just gotta play who you're given. Cork is a tough draw and they are favourites for Sam .... so it'll suit us best going in as underdogs ..... Kildare have'nt reached the level supporters know they are capable of, so I hope there's a big game in them next weekend ..... getting scores on the board in our big problem, we dont have natural forwards and rely too much on a one dimensional tactic of hoofing it up to Thomas O Connor ..... what happened to the shoot on sight tactic ??? .... At least the regular games in the qualifers should be a beneifit to Kildare, Cork have'nt played in a few weeks, the clare game was a joke, and I dont think Kerry showed up in the semi .... it could be the perfect time to play them, but we need every break we can get ..... and please no dodgy decisions !!!!

Felexicon · 29-07-2012 2:07pm

Donkeygonads wrote: »

As lads have said before, the Championship starts now, there are no easy games from here on in so you just gotta play who you're given. Cork is a tough draw and they are favourites for Sam .... so it'll suit us best going in as underdogs ..... Kildare have'nt reached the level supporters know they are capable of, so I hope there's a big game in them next weekend ..... getting scores on the board in our big problem, we dont have natural forwards and rely too much on a one dimensional tactic of hoofing it up to Thomas O Connor ..... what happened to the shoot on sight tactic ??? .... At least the regular games in the qualifers should be a beneifit to Kildare, Cork have'nt played in a few weeks, the clare game was a joke, and I dont think Kerry showed up in the semi .... it could be the perfect time to play them, but we need every break we can get ..... and please no dodgy decisions !!!!

I think you have one of the most natural corner forwards in the country in Alan Smith but McGeeney seems to prefare to play him in the half forward line for some reason. I think Kildare will put it up to Cork and ask a lot of questions that Cork haven't faced this year. You will need to be on top of your game and get a couple of lucky breaks to beat them, but this Kildare team are more than capable of doing it. If the bookies give me 3/1 or more I'll have a few quid on the Lillies

Sunnyisland · 29-07-2012 2:46pm

As a fellow leinster team I would be hoping that you beat the Red rebels next week, We having seen the Cork machine in action for some weeks, hopefully they have gone red rusty as imo you will need to be right up there with them to beat them.

Diego Maradona · 29-07-2012 6:46pm

Kildare vs Cork next Sunday in Croke Park at 2pm followed by Kerry vs Donegal at 4pm. Fixture confirmed by the GAA.

qwerty93 · 29-07-2012 7:15pm

Any Idea if the hill is open for this one lads? Im not too optimistic after last years quarter final:mad:

ShamoBuc · 29-07-2012 7:19pm

Should be an interesting game, but I think we will have enough to beat Kildare by 4 points I reckon. We've not played in a while but hopefully that won't go against us too much.

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