Ireland v Scotland -Aviva Stadium - Saturday 10th March 5pm

GerM · 10-03-2012 1:44pm

sting60 wrote: »

Ireland will get killed at the lineout.Scotland have won 33/33 on their own throw and Ireland have the worst[no stats].Its going to be very close as I believe we cannot put two games of high quality together under this management.Scotland with 9pts at 11/10 is hugh.

Maybe we'll consider keeping the ball in hand and not put the ball to touch. We're comfortably the better side with the ball and have our dander up after the last couple of games. 10 points is a fair enough spread. I fancy us to cover it.

Fishooks12 · 10-03-2012 1:46pm

GerM wrote: »

Maybe we'll consider keeping the ball in hand and not put the ball to touch. We're comfortably the better side with the ball and have our dander up after the last couple of games. 10 points is a fair enough spread. I fancy us to cover it.

So do I, as much as the Scots have improved they're still far from the finished article.

shuffol · 10-03-2012 1:58pm

GerM wrote: »

Maybe we'll consider keeping the ball in hand and not put the ball to touch. We're comfortably the better side with the ball and have our dander up after the last couple of games. 10 points is a fair enough spread. I fancy us to cover it.

I think Scotland have looked the best side of the championship so far as regards keeping hold of the ball, they've made the most line breaks too despite playing strong defences in Wales, England and France.

Fishooks12 · 10-03-2012 2:01pm

shuffol wrote: »

I think Scotland have looked the best side of the championship so far as regards keeping hold of the ball, they've made the most line breaks too despite playing strong defences in Wales, England and France.

England and France are very suspect defensively, don't think we'll afford them the same space if we defend like last week

totallegend · 10-03-2012 2:08pm

danthefan wrote: »

Which makes it even more ridiculous that said poster seems to think they're too good for the thread.

Well what he actually said was he needed "to leave the thread to crap" so maybe he's just been in the jacks for the last hour...

naughto · 10-03-2012 2:09pm

or lineouts have being rubbish this year i dont no if its best or what the hell is going on,if we mess up our lineouts like we did in the last few games then i see scotland getting a lot of the ball.

in saying that i still think we are two strong for them and we will beat them.
hopefully the french game last week woul'nt have taking to much out of them.

JRant · 10-03-2012 2:20pm

JustinDee wrote: »

JRant wrote: »

The weather should be perfect for good rugby today, so there'll be no excuses. We need to start making the offloads stick. I reckon it's going to be a quite open game.

Have just been at pitch. There's a swirler blowing in through Northwest tunnel and North end. Temps mild and pitch looking great.

Great day for ground hurling as they say! Cheers for that, it always seems to have a swirler blowing in there. Thankfully we have Kearney at FB, what a pair of hands hes got.

JRant · 10-03-2012 2:25pm

Who's gonna take the oppositions restarts with SOB out? Don't think he gets enough credt for this part of his game.

sting60 · 10-03-2012 2:28pm

Some very good points[dont keep kicking to touch,no brainer]but will Kidney insist on it ??Scotland keep the ball well but dont score trys,wind swirling ,we are not guaranteed to turn up.Likelihood low scoring game ,Scotland with 9pts is hugh.

Cpt_Blackbeard · 10-03-2012 2:35pm

JRant wrote: »

Who's gonna take the oppositions restarts with SOB out? Don't think he gets enough credt for this part of his game.

Heaslip? It is the No.8's job to take them anyway.

HappyBalance · 10-03-2012 2:37pm

Why does Kidney have O'Gara in the squad? He has maybe 1-2 yrs max left in him. If he is only going to play 10 mins per match at most surely we should be trying a new guy for this position for WC 2015.

mfceiling · 10-03-2012 2:39pm

JRant wrote: »

Who's gonna take the oppositions restarts with SOB out? Don't think he gets enough credt for this part of his game.

Has to be heaslip...then he can run the entire length of the pitch while handing off every Scottish player to score under the posts because sexton would be very incapable of kicking said conversion from anywhere else...at least that is what should happen because that's what happens in a rugby match....or is it...

Fishooks12 · 10-03-2012 2:40pm

HappyBalance wrote: »

Why does Kidney have O'Gara in the squad? He has maybe 1-2 yrs max left in him. If he is only going to play 10 mins per match at most surely we should be trying a new guy for this position for WC 2015.

Because O Gara is still one of the best 10's in the NH

Plus Madigan isn't ready yet

HappyBalance · 10-03-2012 2:44pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Because O Gara is still one of the best 10's in the NH

Plus Madigan isn't ready yet

I agree but he is not really contributing to the team in any meaningful way. It would have been better if Madigan had come on for say the last 20 mins against Italy. ROG won't be around for WC 2015 and we have nothing to play for in the last 2 games.

Tox56 · 10-03-2012 2:48pm

HappyBalance wrote: »

I agree but he is not really contributing to the team in any meaningful way. It would have been better if Madigan had come on for say the last 20 mins against Italy. ROG won't be around for WC 2015 and we have nothing to play for in the last 2 games.

Madigan is way, way too raw to put into an international. He doesn't have anywhere near enough of a complete game, although he does have bucketloads of potential.

Also, playing 80 minutes in the Leinster game the week of the Italy game was certainly more important and beneficial for his developement.

yimrsg · 10-03-2012 2:51pm

HappyBalance wrote: »

I agree but he is not really contributing to the team in any meaningful way. It would have been better if Madigan had come on for say the last 20 mins against Italy. ROG won't be around for WC 2015 and we have nothing to play for in the last 2 games.

ROG is the perfect man to bring on in for a tight finish, jettisoning all his accumulated experience for a guy who most Leinster fans are reluctant to start in the HC with 2015 in mind is pointless. It's even more baffling when you consider the IRB ranking for the 2015 WC is based on performances this season which is what we're playing for in the last 2 games. ROG like all players in the squad currently, have a (small) deciding factor for 2015.

HappyBalance · 10-03-2012 2:54pm

yimrsg wrote: »

ROG is the perfect man to bring on in for a tight finish, jettisoning all his accumulated experience for a guy who most Leinster fans are reluctant to start in the HC with 2015 in mind is pointless. It's even more baffling when you consider the IRB ranking for the 2015 WC is based on performances this season which is what we're playing for in the last 2 games. ROG like all players in the squad currently, have a (small) deciding factor for 2015.

Fair Point. Would like to see ROG get more game time for IRE but yes you are correct.

mannequinhands · 10-03-2012 2:55pm

any streams

HappyBalance · 10-03-2012 2:58pm

mannequinhands wrote: »

any streams

on rte player

joshrogan · 10-03-2012 3:02pm

Very well done introduction to the show.

sting60 · 10-03-2012 3:34pm

HappyBalance wrote: »

Why does Kidney have O'Gara in the squad? He has maybe 1-2 yrs max left in him. If he is only going to play 10 mins per match at most surely we should be trying a new guy for this position for WC 2015.

Jazus ,spot on.Have made this point on 5 live recently.

bleg · 10-03-2012 4:04pm

HappyBalance wrote: »

I agree but he is not really contributing to the team in any meaningful way.

Didn't know you were part of the squad.

sting60 · 10-03-2012 4:15pm

Happy Balance is correct it is no reflection on ROG but we have to look in a forward direction.It is a hugh problem with Kidney.Keep ROG in the background to help the kids.

bleg · 10-03-2012 4:17pm

sting60 wrote: »

Happy Balance is correct it is no reflection on ROG but we have to look in a forward direction.It is a hugh problem with Kidney.Keep ROG in the background to help the kids.

Nah he's completely wrong. We need to have the 2nd best out half in the country on the bench. Imagine Sexton gets injured in minute 1 and Madigan/Keatley has to come on.

Podge_irl · 10-03-2012 4:20pm

bleg wrote: »

Nah he's completely wrong. We need to have the 2nd best out half in the country on the bench. Imagine Sexton gets injured in minute 1 and Madigan/Keatley has to come on.

I agree. None of the other options would fill me with much confidence in that scenario.

They should stop pointlessy bringing him on and shifting Sexton to centre though.

sting60 · 10-03-2012 4:24pm

bleg wrote: »

Nah he's completely wrong. We need to have the 2nd best out half in the country on the bench. Imagine Sexton gets injured in minute 1 and Madigan/Keatley has to come on.

What are we playing for ,you are totally wrong.So what if we dont win ,so f...ing what.

bleg · 10-03-2012 4:27pm

sting60 wrote: »

What are we playing for ,you are totally wrong.So what if we dont win ,so f...ing what.

Well the 6 nations is the major revenue generating exercise for the IRFU. If revenues fall say goodbye to quality imports and attractive pay packets keeping our best players here.

Also if we lose we shift a huge amount of IRB ranking points seeing as we're at home and Scotland are ranked so far below us.

I'd prefer to beat the Scots today than blood a player that may or may not make it at international level. The contrary view is crazy in my opinion.

yimrsg · 10-03-2012 4:31pm

No point focusing of developing players in 2012 for 2015 when we've lost POC and BOD and we need as much experience in there as possible, the guys coming in need a safety net in case they have a mare. Keatley and Madigan have been barely tested at HC level and posters want them to sub ahead of ROG who hasn't done nothing wrong to warrant his exclusion from the matchday squad.

Lose to Scotland (by 10 or 15?) and our 2nd seed ranking for 2015 is at stake.

sting60 · 10-03-2012 4:33pm

bleg wrote: »

Well the 6 nations is the major revenue generating exercise for the IRFU. If revenues fall say goodbye to quality imports and attractive pay packets keeping our best players here.

Also if we lose we shift a huge amount of IRB ranking points seeing as we're at home and Scotland are ranked so far below us.

I'd prefer to beat the Scots today than blood a player that may or may not make it at international level. The contrary view is crazy in my opinion.

I know all that but my point is ,give the young lads a chance no matter what position.We kept the same old guard to win when Kidney took over yet France and Wales were building for the world cup.Where did we finish and alot of threads here were wondering how we did not progress.

Deano7788 · 10-03-2012 4:52pm

sting60 wrote: »

I know all that but my point is ,give the young lads a chance no matter what position.We kept the same old guard to win when Kidney took over yet France and Wales were building for the world cup.Where did we finish and alot of threads here were wondering how we did not progress.

First of all, I wouldn't exactly say Wales were building for the World Cup the 6 Nations after the 2007 one. They won the Grand Slam that year. Of the team that faced Ireland in the World Cup ,Lydiate, Warburton, Faletau, Priestland, Davies and North only emerged in the previous two seasons (or in Priestland's case, the World Cup warm up games really), and while Charteris was around longer, he had only recently broken into the team.

Secondly, there is a time and a place for experimentation, and a game that could potentially cost a lot of ranking points when the rankings at the end of the year determine the seedings for the next world cup, while missing our 2 main leaders and primary ball carrier, is certainly not it.

Leinster7 · 10-03-2012 5:10pm

Wales are rubbish and will win the GS. If we had a coach we would walk this 6n. Quite a poor advert for NH rugby this competition so far.

.ak · 10-03-2012 5:10pm

sting60 wrote: »

I know all that but my point is ,give the young lads a chance no matter what position.We kept the same old guard to win when Kidney took over yet France and Wales were building for the world cup.Where did we finish and alot of threads here were wondering how we did not progress.

There's no mystery why we have not progressed. Coaching staff and lack of a gameplan that's distinct in this era of rugby. Nothing to do with what players are picked to be honest. We have an embarassment of riches in half-backs tbh.

ongarite · 10-03-2012 5:28pm

Newstalk mentioned there are some injury concerns among the starting 15.

Benny Cake · 10-03-2012 5:30pm

ongarite wrote: »

Newstalk mentioned there are some injury concerns among the starting 15.

Earls, Ferris & Best (and 1 or 2 more I think) all sat out sessions during the week.

Grimebox · 10-03-2012 5:30pm

Does anyone know full name of the cover song of "With or without you" that just played on RTE2?

MickySticks · 10-03-2012 5:35pm

I expect us to beat the Scots by 15-20 points today with another couple of tries from T.Bowe

Deano7788 · 10-03-2012 5:37pm

De Luca's out with Evans coming in

Niall09 · 10-03-2012 5:37pm

Grimebox wrote: »

Does anyone know full name of the cover song of "With or without you" that just played on RTE2?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4vj-QAldGw&hd=1

Fishooks12 · 10-03-2012 5:41pm

De Luca out. Massive blow for Scotland, whole backline will be disrupted now

Tox56 · 10-03-2012 5:41pm

BBC saying Bowe could be moving to the centre when he goes to Ulster, and Wood was encouraging it, is this new information or have I missed something?

Why do we keep moving players out of position, not least one of our best players? It's as if there are no up-and-coming centres in Ireland at the moment.

duckysauce · 10-03-2012 5:42pm

Leinster7 wrote: »

Wales are rubbish and will win the GS. If we had a coach we would walk this 6n. Quite a poor advert for NH rugby this competition so far.

are you going to the pub for the match ?

Benny Cake · 10-03-2012 5:49pm

Ireland by 7... Hope POM has a stormer!

d-gal · 10-03-2012 5:51pm

Ryan looks like he is gonna murder someone..that's what limerick does to ya!

Mr.Crinklewood · 10-03-2012 5:54pm

Ireland 12-19 Scotland.

Spudmonkey · 10-03-2012 5:55pm

d-gal wrote: »

Ryan looks like he is gonna murder someone..that's what limerick does to ya!

? Ryans from Cork but it was funny all the same.... :rolleyes:

Smile from Gray meeting our little wizard.

dougieruggie · 10-03-2012 5:55pm

Donal Lenihan is at it again.

cork exile in london · 10-03-2012 5:55pm

bod looks like i just returning from night club on the beeb

MickySticks · 10-03-2012 5:56pm

Love the Scottish anthem.

cork exile in london · 10-03-2012 5:56pm

Spudmonkey wrote: »

? Ryans from Cork but it was funny all the same.... :rolleyes:

Smile from Gray meeting our little wizard.

tipperary actually and love the little wizard comment

god he strange little creature.

cork exile in london · 10-03-2012 5:58pm

good rendition of anthem from most of our boys for change.

Ireland v Scotland -Aviva Stadium - Saturday 10th March 5pm

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