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Fibre up 24 hrs

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    #92
    kleefarr
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    ED E wrote: »
    Exactly. The smaller RJ11 will fit into a larger RJ45 (but not vice versa).

    Right. I'll try that tomorrow when I get a chance.


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    #93
    mass_debater
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    kleefarr wrote: »
    Ok, I took off the cover on the junction box upstairs.
    Connected modem to it via the RJ45 and the RED WAN socket on the modem.
    Connected laptop to modem via Ethernet.
    Plugged power in and switched on.

    [IMG]hxxp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/KBL007/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20150511_001_zpsflv8zmir.jpg[/IMG]

    No internet!

    Is there a setting I have to change on the modem?

    Use a phone cable


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    #94
    yuloni
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    #95
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    yuloni wrote: »
    Lads aside, surely the master socket / NTU wouldn't be in an upstairs bedroom? Could it be a case the NTU is fed from the back of another plug elsewhere. I think it's important the OP finds and tests the plug where the drop enters

    It can be anywhere, depends on how the electrician ran the cables. For a Vodafone customer KN will no longer give the option to move it like they do with Eircom as Vodafone will not pay for an in-house install or cover the price of a data port extension.


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    #96
    yuloni
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    #97
    kleefarr
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    Ok, wired up and running...

    Up 44 seconds.

    line%20stats%2012-5-15_zpsp9roxkre.jpg


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    #98
    kleefarr
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    yuloni wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Sorted and yes, this is where the modem is plugged into as there is no power socket next to the main junction box at front door.


    WOW look at that DSNR!!


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    #99
    ED E
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    That'll get you back to 50_20. Or leave it as is for what should be a super stable line.


    So what this means if:
    A. Direct to the main pair (what youve just done) gives great rates like that screenshot
    B. Through the regular faceplate you get poor rates (data corruption)

    Then something within the internals of the house is f'cking your sync, or the NTU itself is dud. Doesn't look like he's fed an alarm back off the rear of the NTU, if he had we'd see the wires hanging through to the faceplate in the pic you posted, so the alarm is GSM I'd say. That leaves that phone fax combo. Could well be your culprit.


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    #100
    kleefarr
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    Am on wireless now and DSNR is still 16.6.

    To be honest, I think it might be a little more simple than that.

    There is no alarm and that phone/fax has not been plugged in for years.

    The modem was always plugged into that socket but via an extension, the only thing that is different is I have taken out the extension and used a NEW RJ11 cable.

    Now it's my thought that even though the extension would cause some speed loss to the PC in another bedroom it should not affect overall quality of the line stats.

    Looks like I will have to install a wireless PCI card in the bedroom PC.

    30 Minutes up..

    Downstream CRC 0
    Upstream CRC 0
    Downstream FEC 3941
    Upstream FEC 0


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    #101
    ED E
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    Oh, either you never mentioned that or I missed it.

    Phone cable can be terrible for your DSL signal(ADSL or VDSL), its often not twisted or poorly twisted and may not even be copper. Fine for voice, terrible for data. If you wanna maximize rates you could even get 6" of Cat5, RJ11 terminate it and mount the modem above the NTU, but thats likely overkill. Basically the less cable involved the better, and maximize quality where you can.


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    #102
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    Omg, 9 pages and your only telling us about the extension cable now. I'm afraid you've created your own problems.


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    #103
    kleefarr
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    To be honest, I never mentioned it as I thought it would be a huge contributing factor. Now I know differently.

    Will go wireless on the PC in other bedroom. I have a card lying around and that PC is not used that much really anyway.
    I will also leave the modem as is for 6 hrs. Then I'll plug the phone and connect all the other wireless stuff up and see were we are.


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    #104
    kleefarr
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    But that is also something that I don't think was causing the problem, because when the extension cable was taken out of the equation before and the modem was plugged straight into the main socket at front door, things did not change.

    So I can therefore conclude that it must have been the original RJ11 cable.
    I will set it back up the way it was before in 6 hrs but using the new RJ11 cable and see what the results are.


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    #105
    Nonoperational
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    Always thought this sounded like a non line related issue. Can't believe it got an engineer to come out and still the most basic things not checked.


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    #106
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    Nonoperational wrote: »
    Always thought this sounded like a non line related issue. Can't believe it got an engineer to come out and still the most basic things not checked.

    The engineer did his job, he contracts off Eircom and is only concerned with the ntu after removing the front, remember its self install on Vodafone, they post the modem to the customer for self installation, refuse to pay for the in-house


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    #107
    yuloni
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    #108
    kleefarr
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    Experiencing some lag now....

    Connection Status
    Help
    DSL synchronization status Up
    DSL up time 08:05:39

    Line Status
    Help
    Line standard VDSL2
    Channel type
    None
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 40956
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 10239
    Downstream SNR (dB) 15.6
    Upstream SNR (dB) 19.1
    Downstream line attenuation (dB) 14.6
    Upstream line attenuation (dB) 5.4
    Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.9
    Upstream output power (dBmV) 4
    Downstream CRC 21
    Upstream CRC 0
    Downstream FEC 56960
    Upstream FEC 2789


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    #109
    kleefarr
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    yuloni wrote:
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    May be I should move it to the main entrance point tomorrow morning and see what difference there is. It was there prior to the last engineer calling out with the same poor results as posted earlier in the thread. May be Vodafone have changed something?

    PS. I will post final readings before going to bed and then tomorrow move to main socket at front door for tests again.


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    #110
    yuloni
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    #111
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    kleefarr wrote: »
    May be I should move it to the main entrance point tomorrow morning and see what difference there is. It was there prior to the last engineer calling out with the same poor results as posted earlier in the thread. May be Vodafone have changed something?

    PS. I will post final readings before going to bed and then tomorrow move to main socket at front door for tests again.

    It may not work in the hall if the engineer redirected the main pair and back fed the socket in the hall


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    #112
    lucernarian
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    yuloni wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    To further clarify part of that: when someone has an eFibre (A.K.A. VDSL) install, there is only supposed to be one socket used for the VDSL modem and the modem can't be used with any other sockets unless you'd like e.g. an 80% speed penalty.


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    #113
    yuloni
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    #114
    kleefarr
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    Plugged the phone back into the same socket in the bedroom after replacing the cover. Wife was missing it.

    Connection Status
    Help
    DSL synchronization status Up
    DSL up time 01:04:21

    Line Status
    Help
    Line standard VDSL2
    Channel type
    None
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 40956
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 10239
    Downstream SNR (dB) 16.3
    Upstream SNR (dB) 19.6
    Downstream line attenuation (dB) 14.6
    Upstream line attenuation (dB) 5.4
    Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.8
    Upstream output power (dBmV) 4.3
    Downstream CRC 6073
    Upstream CRC 0
    Downstream FEC 82348
    Upstream FEC 3700


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    #115
    kleefarr
    Registered Users Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    This is the set up at the front door where line comes in. It's a mess really.

    Phone%20socket%20downstairs_zpssuyct9fn.jpg~original


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    #116
    mass_debater
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    kleefarr wrote: »
    This is the set up at the front door where line comes in. It's a mess really.

    [IMG]hxxtp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/KBL007/Phone%20socket%20downstairs_zpssuyct9fn.jpg~original[/IMG]

    It most likely bypasses that socket to the new ntu and a back feed returns to that socket on another pair. Check and see are there jelly crimps in behind that old ntu, they should be used to join the main pair to a pair going upstairs


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    #117
    kleefarr
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    Bedtime stats...

    DSL synchronization status Up
    DSL up time 05:39:27

    Line standard VDSL2

    Channel type
    None
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 40956
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 10239
    Downstream SNR (dB) 15.4
    Upstream SNR (dB) 19.7
    Downstream line attenuation (dB) 14.6
    Upstream line attenuation (dB) 5.4
    Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.8
    Upstream output power (dBmV) 4.3
    Downstream CRC 6087
    Upstream CRC 0
    Downstream FEC 120666
    Upstream FEC 3776


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    #118
    kleefarr
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    Morning..

    Line stats this morning...

    DSL synchronization status Up
    DSL up time 13:58:11

    Line Status
    Help
    Line standard VDSL2
    Channel type
    None
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 40956
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 10239
    Downstream SNR (dB) 15.5
    Upstream SNR (dB) 19.5
    Downstream line attenuation (dB) 14.6
    Upstream line attenuation (dB) 5.4
    Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.8
    Upstream output power (dBmV) 4.3
    Downstream CRC 6099
    Upstream CRC 0
    Downstream FEC 185301
    Upstream FEC 4148

    This is the main socket at front door... red circles Jelly Crimps?....

    main%20phone%20socket%20front%20door._zpsvncjcnzu.jpg~original


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    #119
    mass_debater
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    Looks like your main pair is redirected upstairs and that socket in the hall is back fed and is where the rest of your sockets connect. You can only use the socket upstairs for the modem, the master socket.


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    #120
    kleefarr
    Registered Users Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Yep, I think your are right.
    I just checked that socket and there is no dial tone so must be bypassed.

    Have plugged everything into main NTU upstairs again.

    DSL synchronization status Up
    DSL up time 00:06:07

    Line Status
    Help
    Line standard VDSL2
    Channel type
    None
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 40956
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 10239
    Downstream SNR (dB) 16.6
    Upstream SNR (dB) 19.4
    Downstream line attenuation (dB) 14.7
    Upstream line attenuation (dB) 5.4
    Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.8
    Upstream output power (dBmV) 4.2
    Downstream CRC 0
    Upstream CRC 0
    Downstream FEC 0
    Upstream FEC 0

    Will keep an eye on it over the next few days.


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    #121
    yuloni
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