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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    The only thing I noticed was it increased the Downstream SNR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Ok, what would be a good replacement for this crap modem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    NAT does not cause lag.

    Youve something else going on, doubt its the modem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭mass_debater


    ED E wrote: »
    NAT does not cause lag.

    Youve something else going on, doubt its the modem.

    The NAT issue on the Xbox is most definitely the modem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    The NAT issue on the Xbox is most definitely the modem

    True, but it wont cause lag, only a failure to connect when some games change host/match.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    ED E wrote: »
    True, but it wont cause lag, only a failure to connect when some games change host/match.

    That is happening a lot recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    I have always been a fan of Linksys and had numerous products in the past which I have always found to be very good.

    Looking at this Linksys XAC1900 but it seems very expensive at €230 in PC World.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭mass_debater


    kleefarr wrote: »
    I have always been a fan of Linksys and had numerous products in the past which I have always found to be very good.

    Looking at this Linksys XAC1900 but it seems very expensive at €230 in PC World.

    No point having allegiance to them. Linksys were a great brand until Cisco bought them and started using cheap components, then Cisco sold the Linksys division to Belkin who are notorious for being crap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Who would you suggest then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭mass_debater


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Who would you suggest then?

    Archer c7/8 or 9 are highly recommended here on boards, lots of threads about them. You'll have no problems with support. I prefer Mikrotik, but they are much harder to configure


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  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭sean_b97


    is that vodafone? had a terrible experience with them a few years back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Archer c7/8 or 9 are highly recommended here on boards, lots of threads about them. You'll have no problems with support. I prefer Mikrotik, but they are much harder to configure

    Thanks, will look into those.

    Ah, is that just a router or a modem?
    sean_b97 wrote: »
    is that vodafone? had a terrible experience with them a few years back

    Yep, it certainly is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Ok, I assume if my current modem uses phone line into adsl socket this same should work with this.

    TP-Link Archer D9 AC1900


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭mass_debater


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Ok, I assume if my current modem uses phone line into adsl socket this same should work with this.

    TP-Link Archer D9 AC1900

    Doubtful, it needs to support vectoring, don't think that does unless someone with the full specs proves me wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Ok, this seems to be able to handle the vdsl, but then it's only 100mbs max. Was hoping to upgrade for the future if there is any chance of getting more than 100mbs here.

    http://uk.tp-link.com/products/details/cat-15_TD-W9980.html

    Ah ha....

    http://uk.tp-link.com/products/details/cat-15_Archer-VR900.html

    Could be just the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Ok,new modem arrived this morning.

    TP-Link AC1900 VDSL2 Modem Router Archer VR900

    Getting all the lights solid but no internet connection, so I suspect it's a setting somewhere. Vodafone are no use as they won't even give out the settings for anything other than their own modem.

    This is what I have so far..

    LAN
    491a6ad5-81e9-4591-805d-ab4cf4d9cebb_zpskuwij1wt.jpg~original

    DSL
    DSL%20settings_zpsx7vckw5t.jpg~original

    WAN
    WAN_zpszhvquics.jpg~original

    Any suggestions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭Vico1612


    Shouldn't VLAN tag be 10 ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Perfect. Thanks.
    I see a difference already but will monitor over the next few days. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Just goes to show how poor the Vodafone modem is...

    Line%20stats_zpseh37zuov.jpg~original


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    How much was that router and were you getting similar attainables on the Vodafone router?

    Wonder will VF bump you up so?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Not sure why you think its so much better?

    HG:
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 40956
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 10239
    Downstream SNR (dB) 15.2
    Upstream SNR (dB) 19.4

    Archer:
    40956 with 13.6 WORSE
    10239 with 20.1 Marginally better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    How much was that router and were you getting similar attainables on the Vodafone router?

    Wonder will VF bump you up so?

    The stats shown are the same line stats as the HG. However, pages are loading quicker and more smoothly so a marked difference has been noted.
    It was not cheap.

    Just got a speed test from Vodafone and they said around 70mbs which is 20 more than they quoted before.

    Will have a go on it and see what happens.
    ED E wrote: »
    Not sure why you think its so much better?

    HG:
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 40956
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 10239
    Downstream SNR (dB) 15.2
    Upstream SNR (dB) 19.4

    Archer:
    40956 with 13.6 WORSE
    10239 with 20.1 Marginally better

    Same line profile but definitely smoother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Ahh ok. What you're probably seeing is the effect of a nice and fast CPU/FW/NAT designed for high throughput, not the last gen junk in the 658c.

    658
    CPU1: Broadcom BCM63168 (400 MHz, 2 cores)
    659 (F2000)
    400MHz dual core processor
    Archer
    Processor 1 GHz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Added bonus, no NAT error on xbox. Son will be delighted. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Ok, they have upped it to..

    Just over 67mbs down.

    DSL
    Line Status:
    DSL Modulation Type:
    Annex Type:
    Upstream Downstream
    Current Rate(kbps) 20479 67192
    Max Rate(kbps) 30928 74394
    SNR Margin(dB) 10.2 5.9
    Line Attenuation(dB) 0 22.3
    Errors(pkts) 0 0

    0 Errors but that SNR Down looks a bit nasty. Will see how it goes and may be drop it back to 50/20.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Current..

    Upstream Downstream
    Current Rate(kbps) 20479 66746
    Max Rate(kbps) 30616 73913
    SNR Margin(dB) 10 6.1
    Line Attenuation(dB) 0 22.3
    Errors(pkts) 0 0

    Getting it taken down a bit to see if it improves SNR down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Ok, didn't go now any just yet as they told me that 6.1db SNR Down is fairly stable for fibre and if I went down to 50/20 they wouldn't be able to put me
    back to the 70/20. :confused:
    So decided to leave as is for now. Things ok really, just thought a higher SNR down would be better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Yes! They are putting in new phone line outside the house as I type.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Yes! They are putting in new phone line outside the house as I type.

    How'd you swing that?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Enough fault reports and theyll eventually run a new drop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    How'd you swing that?!
    ED E wrote: »
    Enough fault reports and theyll eventually run a new drop.

    Yep, asked everyone on the estate how their broadband was about a year ago and most said it could be better so I suggested they complain about it. Seems to have worked. :)

    We'll have to see what difference it makes when connected up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Yep, asked everyone on the estate how their broadband was about a year ago and most said it could be better so I suggested they complain about it. Seems to have worked. :)

    We'll have to see what difference it makes when connected up.

    Good stuff. Strength in numbers! Let us know if it makes a difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Threading the new fibre cable to new junction boxes outside...

    WP_20150820_001_zpsr709qxpp.jpg

    WP_20150820_002_zpsxfugepq3.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Threading the new fibre cable to new junction boxes outside...

    WP_20150820_001_zpsr709qxpp.jpg

    WP_20150820_002_zpsxfugepq3.jpg

    Were they threading that from the exchange to the cab or are you getting FTTH? How did it go? Any increase in attainable speed on account if the new line?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    No idea where they were threading it to.
    Don't think it's connected up yet. I went out and asked him if it would affect the internet as the boys were on the xbox.
    May be next week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    TP Link powerlines arrived this morning.
    Just did a speed test to wireless entertainment corner. 54.94 mb/s not to shabby.
    Will see what improvement over powerlines later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Ok, powerline adapters paired, plugged in according to instructions.
    Speed test 1.98mb/s. :(

    Some tweaking may be needed.

    This is what the utility gives about network..

    Powerline20Network_zpsiquktrfy.jpg

    I have also noticed that the Network ID is blank. Should I put my network ID in?
    It asks if I'm sure I want to over right all saved passwords for current devices.

    Also just noticed from that photo, there is no corresponding password for the second device.
    Will put same password in for that and see if any change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    As far as I am aware, we have not been connected to the new cable yet.
    Am awaiting confirmation from Vodafone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Vodafone know nothing about it, I discovered last week.

    However, something is happening this morning. They are digging up the hole where the new cable and box has been fitted.
    I would have thought it would have been better to have done that before putting the new equipment in. ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Serious hole!!

    WP_20150918_001_zpssvkvkb2b.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Serious hole!!

    WP_20150918_001_zpssvkvkb2b.jpg

    Mickey Mouse Digger! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Still no wiser as to what they have done apart from make the old hole bigger a put a bigger cover on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Still no wiser as to what they have done apart from make the old hole bigger a put a bigger cover on.

    Can you go and ask them next time you see them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Still no wiser as to what they have done apart from make the old hole bigger a put a bigger cover on.

    Different crews do the civils and cabling. Its probably preemptive for splitters to be dropped in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    They just came back to remove the barriers.
    Popped out to have a chat with him. He said that they had just made the hole bigger in readiness for the fibre connections to be made.
    So fibre to that location and then copper to the houses in the estate. Mine being the closest I am hoping for amazing speeds. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Cork981


    kleefarr wrote: »
    They just came back to remove the barriers.
    Popped out to have a chat with him. He said that they had just made the hole bigger in readiness for the fibre connections to be made.
    So fibre to that location and then copper to the houses in the estate. Mine being the closest I am hoping for amazing speeds. :)

    Copper to the house ? Did they say this was the set up ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭mass_debater


    Cork981 wrote: »
    Copper to the house ? Did they say this was the set up ?

    I wouldn't take too much heed to what these civils say, they've not got a clue, they just did holes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Cork981 wrote: »
    Copper to the house ? Did they say this was the set up ?

    I assume they will use the existing connection to house from there, which I assume is copper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭mass_debater


    kleefarr wrote: »
    I assume they will use the existing connection to house from there, which I assume is copper.

    Not very likely, the plan is for FTTH, VDSL and Fibre cabs are used where there's already a copper cab.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Not very likely, the plan is for FTTH, VDSL and Fibre cabs are used where there's already a copper cab.

    So in that case as well as having to wait for the connection to be made to the new 'hole', I will also then have to wait for the connection from the 'hole' to the house?

    Is this only for Eircom customers though?


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