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2010 Cooking Club Week 48: Pulled Pork

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭sofireland


    Cooked this today. Delicious
    Didnt have coriander so used coriander powder.
    Served on brioche rolls with coleslaw.


  • Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭niallam


    I've always been a big BBQ person but yesterday i tried my first ever "Pork Butt" or shoulder as we call it :)

    I started off with a full 7kg pork shoulder.
    My rub consisted of coarse salt, black pepper, paprika, cumin, cayenne pepper, mustard powder, brown sugar & white sugar
    My injection, apple juice, apple cider vinegar, water, white sugar, salt & Worcester sauce

    I deboned the shoulder, took all the fat off and applied my rub on 1 side, 40 mins i wiped off the excess and applied to the other side.
    I rolled it up very loosely but to keep an even thickness throughout.
    Added my injection throughout and wrapped in cling film.

    First i lined my smoker with tinfoil and 2 drip trays.

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    I was using hickory wood chunks and apple wood chips, some soaked and some not so as to get as long between adding more wood as i could.

    I also had a foil tray over the charcoal with apple cider vinegar and water. The pic of this is more for just showing and was fresh chips put on.

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    Opened for the first time after 2 hours

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    I kept the temp in the smoker at about 250f for 6 hours, was very hard to control the temp but managed. I used a meat probe with 1m cable on the rack to tell inside temp.
    Adding wood every 30 mins, used about 2kg hickory chunks and 1kg apple.

    After 6 hours of rotating every hour and spraying with apple juice it was ready for the next step.

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    Wrapped it in foil and sat in a tray. Inserted the probe inside now and temp was at 154f, injected it again which brought temp to 150f. Covered it and fresh charcoal (cleaned out full heat box at this point) for the next 3 hours. Monitored the temp to make sure it wasn't climbing too fast and my target internal temp was 190-200f.
    2 hours 45 mins later it reached temp.

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    Left to rest for 45 mins.

    Pulled it all, sprayed again with apple juice a few times and added the injection juice from the tray from the last stage.

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    Got perfect smoke ring for my first attempt, served it with a red onion marmalade :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    That is awesome. I have smoker envy :D
    But next time, leave the bone in. You get more flavour and a test to see if it's done (the bone pulls out cleanly with almost zero effort). And you don't have to do all the deboning work :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Tom75


    Hi,
    Do we have a separate thread for smoking meat, and smokers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy




  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Tom75


    Thank You!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭Moody_mona


    Have my pork in the rub. It makes for good summer weather food, with baps and salads and the likes :)

    I always just pick up a leg joint in Tesco to do this, but I got a very disappointing piece of meat there today. It wasn't one whole piece when you unrolled it and took off the string; it had sections hanging off and barely attached. If you're buying this prepacked, make sure to have a good look to see that it's a whole piece you're getting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    That's a bit disappointing, but on the other hand, this is a poor people meal, and you're going to be shredding the meat anyway so it'll turn out fine.

    If you want to go all upmarket on it ( :D ) go to the butchers and ask for some pork shoulder (apparently we call it gigot in Ireland, not butt, and noone I've asked has a clue where that name comes from either, because it's the french word for lamb legs).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭Moody_mona


    I'm not worried about the taste or appearance, because I know it's still going to be lovely, it was still just a bit annoying! Our butchers has been closed the past few weeks, so I may need to start venturing. The leg joint was 1.3kg and I know that'll fit fine in my little slow cooker (the tiny cheap one from Argos). Would I be able to get a piece of shoulder the same size and rough shape, so it would fit in? Would the shoulder not have a bone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    I've a piece of shoulder on the bone wrapped in the rub in the fridge as we speak. Tenner for 2kgs on the bone. He offered to debone it for me but I left it in for the extra flavour when it comes time to cook it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Yeah, if I could fit the whole shoulder in the slow cooker I'd be laughing but it's too small so I generally just get it deboned and then I can fit about a kilo in the cooker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭dibkins


    So, tried this over the weekend. Delicious, but i think i'll change up a few things before next time.

    Nom Nom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Sparks wrote: »
    Yeah, if I could fit the whole shoulder in the slow cooker I'd be laughing but it's too small so I generally just get it deboned and then I can fit about a kilo in the cooker.

    you should keep an eye out for one of the bigger slow cookers in argos. i picked up a 6.5L one for less than €15 a few years ago and its had loads of use and still going strong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Aye. Aldi regularly do a 6.5l one for €22. It will pay for itself within a year (uses a lot less electricity than an oven)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    I got a 6.5lt one in Argos a few weeks ago for €25.99c. Still waiting to do the pulled pork in it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    yeah, you can get the full "bone in" shoulder into the big 6.5L ones, I've done several now at this point and they fit perfectly. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    I actually have a 6L model, but it was too big for the flat so I gave it away; and our baking assistant's arrival meant that all my new counter space was taken up by sterilising steamers and the like for ages so I'm only getting back the room I'd use for this stuff now. And my magimix has dibs on the first available chunk of countertop. But soon... real soon....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    unkel wrote: »
    Aye. Aldi regularly do a 6.5l one for €22.

    They must read here :D

    Aldi have the 6.5l slow cooker on for €19.99 from next Thursday.

    Linky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    And they have a spice grinder going for €15 as well (yeah, it says coffee grinder but those blade grinders don't do so well grinding coffee beans, they're way better at grinding spices).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Sparks wrote: »
    And they have a spice grinder going for €15 as well (yeah, it says coffee grinder but those blade grinders don't do so well grinding coffee beans, they're way better at grinding spices).

    I would imagine it's easier grinding coffee beans rather than spices.

    I have a similar grinder that I use for grinding both, and the coffee beans always grind easily enough, if not easier than the spices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Except that the coffee beans aren't actually grinding. Take some, stick them under a microscope - you get large chunks and fines. You want all the same size of chunk so that the coffee doesn't overextract and taste bleuch (that's the technical term :D )

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Sparks wrote: »
    Except that the coffee beans aren't actually grinding. Take some, stick them under a microscope - you get large chunks and fines. You want all the same size of chunk so that the coffee doesn't overextract and taste bleuch (that's the technical term :D )

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    Yeah I'm aware that those type of "grinders" actually chop rather than grind and that the handle type burred steel on steel grinders are better for coffee beans, but I was responding to your comment about "grinding spices".


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Neither Dunnes nor Tesco in my part of Limerick had pork this evening! Loads of deals on hams and bacon. Would it be a total disaster to try this recipe with cured meat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    An File wrote: »
    Neither Dunnes nor Tesco in my part of Limerick had pork this evening!

    Are there no butchers in your part of Limerick? :)


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    unkel wrote: »
    Are there no butchers in your part of Limerick? :)

    None that open on a Sunday! :( I'll pick up a piece in town tomorrow if the local supermarkets haven't had deliveries. I'd just prefer to have it ready to eat tomorrow. :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    An File wrote: »
    I'd just prefer to have it ready to eat tomorrow. :P

    You need more patience than that!

    Day 1: rub + fridge
    Day 2: cook
    Day 3: eat :D

    But seriously go to a butcher and ask for the shoulder with the bone in. It's cheap and it will do your pulled pork in the slow cooker justice!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    And don't try it with a ham or bacon joint :D The results would be... interesting!
    (You can make pulled ham, but not with this recipe. You could try this one if you want...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,916 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    unkel wrote: »
    You need more patience than that!

    Day 1: rub + fridge
    Day 2: cook
    Day 3: eat :D

    You can totally combine days 2 and 3 if you get the pork on early enough, I've done it loads of times.

    Haven't made this in aaaages, I think it's due a revisit. Not this weekend, though, cause I'm in the Chilli con Carnivale in Bernard Shaw on Saturday so will be thoroughly cooked out by then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    You can totally combine days 2 and 3 if you get the pork on early enough

    Of course you can. I like mine to cook for 20 hours on low though :)

    BTW Lidl now also have a (medium size) slow cooker on for just €18.99 next week I think...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Used up the last of the Pulled Pork by putting it on a pizza with some jalapenos. Had planned to actually make the pizza but due to time restraints I just bought a Margherita pizza in M&S.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    I got the Aldi slow cooker last week and this is the first thing I'm cooking in it.

    It's the 6.5l cooker, and my piece of meat is about 2 kilo, bone in, seems to fit perfectly.

    Couple of questions, I've just done the spice rub, when would be a good time to stick it on to cook? In the morning (I'll be up at 6 or 7 with the baby), or tomorrow evening, for eating Sunday?

    Anyway, with it being a bigger cooker and bigger piece of meat, do I need to increase the liquid?

    Finally, the big Tesco near me didn't have molasses, will treacle do?

    I'm looking forward to this a lot.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    I think treacle might be too sweet Baldy. Is there a health food shop nearby? They would have molasses.

    I did the rub evening 1, then evening 2 put it in the cooker before bedtime and we ate it day 3. But if you are up at 7am then bung it in then and have dinner at the usual time maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    hmm, I might leave it to marinade in the rub all day tomorrow, as I think there are already dinner plans for tomorrow, it will also give me a chance to get the blackstrap.

    I've everything else, so want to do it right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    I always put it on in the morning now (since the baby has come along!). I like the idea of being able to keep an eye on it. Plus it's always ready for dinner time that way. :)

    As for the molasses, I reckon you'd be hard pushed to notice the difference if you left it out or used treacle in its place.
    I think that's one of the great things about this recipe, you don't have to be super strict with the ingredients. For me, the most important ones are the ones you use for the final sauce.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    cool, well I didn't get it on in time this morning, so overnight it is, for dinner tomorrow evening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Ended up with treacle, and it's been on "low" since 7pm, so that's about 6 hours so far - can't smell anything yet.

    I'll leave it overnight on low, then whack it up to high for a few hours if I think it needs it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    No need, just leave it on low. Enjoy your dinner tomorrow night :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Yep, it's been on low for 12 hours now, and can smell it all over the house. Wife hates it, I'm undecided on the aroma, but it's not making me retch at least.

    Think I'll leave it another hour or two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭maryfred


    Yep, it's been on low for 12 hours now, and can smell it all over the house. Wife hates it, I'm undecided on the aroma, but it's not making me retch at least.

    Think I'll leave it another hour or two.

    My fella hates the smell as well,says it's the vinegar. I've only cooked it twice because of that. Pity because he loves the taste when it's finished. )-:


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,148 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    I didn't use vinegar last time, and I thought it tasted better. More pleasant smell in the kitchen too. Tweak it to your own liking.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    got it made just in time for the match!

    two floury baps with pulled pork, homemade coleslaw and a few slices of pickle.

    nom nom


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    In a wrap with coleslaw pickles and cheese is also delicious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭maryfred


    beertons wrote: »
    I didn't use vinegar last time, and I thought it tasted better. More pleasant smell in the kitchen too. Tweak it to your own liking.

    I thought if I didn't use the vinegar the pork wouldn't be as tender,but I suppose anything cooked for 10 hrs in a slow cooker is going to be melt in the mouth anyway. Will cook it again without the vinegar.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,148 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    maryfred wrote: »
    I thought if I didn't use the vinegar the pork wouldn't be as tender,but I suppose anything cooked for 10 hrs in a slow cooker is going to be melt in the mouth anyway. Will cook it again without the vinegar.

    Double the coke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    I'm sure it's been asked before, but pork butt as a substitute for shoulder?
    It's marbled, so I was hoping might serve the same purpose.

    Re-read the OP... I'll be quiet now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭niallam


    I'm sure it's been asked before, but pork butt as a substitute for shoulder?


    The butt is just what the Americans call the shoulder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭nikpmup


    Saw this thread on the first page and was intrigued enough to follow it. I've just finished cooking/pulling/saucing, and oh my giddy aunt. I used Jack Daniels BBQ sauce, and I thought it was a shame to waste the cooking liquid so I added a couple of tablespoons of it to the sauce; the dry rub spices and the chilli gives it a nice kick. I also added a squeeze of honey to counter the acidity of the vinegar. I've promised some of it to my folks, but I suspect they'll be getting a very small portion! Gonna make some coleslaw now (Tom Kerridge's mayonaise recipe) and get some floury baps. Yum yum.

    Edited to add: Anyone in Dublin 15; the Dublin Meat Company in Coolmine do a generous sized pork shoulder for €7. I put it in the slow cooker this morning on high at 9am, then turned it to low at 12pm. By 2.30pm it was falling apart and gorgeous. If you're going to be out all day or cooking overnight I'd maybe leave it on low (or if your SC has an Auto setting, use that)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭misslt


    I have this in the slow cooker since 7 am. Hoping it will be ready around 7-8 tonight.

    I don't have the words to express how excited I am to try it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Goolay


    Have had this thread bookmarked for months and finally made this the other day. My word it was fantastic. Thanks so much for the detailed instructions.

    The dog was very happy about the whole thing
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    Used a big Pork Shoulder from JCs Supermarket (€7.99). Hoped it was going to fit in my 3.5 slow cooker but had to take the bone out to get it to fit. Felt manly at least while butchering. Needed to make a bit extra of the cooking juice on day 2 to cover the meat.

    Have seen people giving out about the smell during cooking - I loved it! Luckily so did my wife.

    We had friends over for a birthday thing and served it on baps with coleslaw, roast potatoes & homemade Mac n Cheese.

    Having the last little bit left for lunch shortly.

    Will be making again VERY soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Glad you liked it goolay!


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