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  • #752
    JCX BXC
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
    Aer Lingus flight to Lanzarote diverted to Shannon after medical emergency (Journal)

    AN AER LINGUS flight from Dublin to Lanzarote was forced to turn back over the Celtic Sea this afternoon after a medical emergency on board.

    A passenger became ill about 20 minutes into the flight, and after consulting with Medilink (medical advisors on the ground), Aer Lingus decided to divert the aircraft back to Shannon, with 157 passengers and six crew on board.

    Here is a flight radar image of EI778 taking off again.


  • #753
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    I see Transaero has made a planning application (14587) for permission to use an existing aircraft hangar (former Aer Lingus hangar) for the break up of end-of-life aircraft for recycling.

    See previous posts 430, 435.
    Parting Out

    Currently approximately 450 commercial aircraft are “parted out” or recycled (dismantled for reusable spare parts) worldwide each year 13 , a number which is likely to rise as older types are withdrawn from service due to sustained high fuel prices.

    Aircraft recycling is an environmentally friendly, and increasingly lucrative, business. Approximately 80% of an Airbus A320 can be reused in the marketplace, due to the ongoing popularity of the aircraft along with its modern design.

    The longevity of the A320 family suggests a profitable ongoing business opportunity for parting out older aircraft of this type.

    The sector’s trade body, the Aircraft Fleet Recycling Association, is targeting 90% recyclability of Airbus A320s by 2016.

    More cost-effective parting-out can raise the residual value of older aircraft (as their sale value for parting out will grow), thus contributing to taking older aircraft (usually available at relatively low lease rates) out of the worldwide fleet.

    This will be of benefit to airlines and lessors alike.

    The need to carefully document the provenance of aircraft spare parts, as well as the requirement to comply with increasingly strict waste disposal regulations, makes the business a specialist one, but with strong growth and employment prospects.

    Parting out companies are becoming more sophisticated due to tighter regulations but most such firms are still relatively small in scale.

    There is an opportunity to build a larger-scale facility, potentially in partnership with a major fleet owner (such as a lessor) or one or more major OEMs, all of whom are becoming increasingly involved in this area.

    Through stakeholder discussions, the Task Force has been able to confirm the market opportunities that exist in this sector.


  • #754
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row




    Shannon Airport - Irish Travel Industry Roadshow

    Declan Power of Shannon Airport speaks with TravelMedia.ie in Cork at the Irish Travel Industry Road Show, October 2014.

    Shannon Airport were in Cork to meet travel agents, tour operators and other suppliers and members of the Irish travel industry.

    *************************************************************

    Good to see that they are selling / promoting the North American routes from Shannon to the Irish market.


  • #755
    Brennans Row
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    The Limerick Post reveal some interesting transatlantic passenger statistics (%) for August and September. It seems the marketing of the Wild Atlantic Way has been positive for Shannon.

    • August saw a +9% increase in transatlantic passengers numbers
    • September saw a +11% increase in transatlantic passengers numbers

    The latest Red C research at Shannon show that Kerry is the county benefiting the most from increased transatlantic passenger numbers at Shannon, with 39% of transatlantic passengers interviewed in the survey this year having holidayed in The Kingdom, up from 31% in the same survey last year.

    Clare continues to be the county most visited by transatlantic passengers at Shannon, with 52% of respondents stating that they spent time in the Banner County, up from 46% in the same period last year.

    Galway also performed well, with 34% of respondents saying they visited the county, again up (from 29%) on last year.

    Cork, likewise, benefited from the growth with 25% of those interviewed confirming they spent time there, up from 22% from the corresponding period last year.

    The research also indicated a growing trend of transatlantic passengers through Shannon visiting Dublin, with 29% reporting that they spent time in the capital compared to 17% last year.

    Said Mr Pakey, “The Red C research has given us some interesting indicators. Transatlantic passengers spend more than any others, not least as they typically stay longer, so it is great to see all the key tourism counties serviced by Shannon benefiting.”


  • #756
    zulutango
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
    The Limerick Post reveal some interesting transatlantic passenger statistics (%) for August and September. It seems the marketing of the Wild Atlantic Way has been positive for Shannon.

    • August saw a +9% increase in transatlantic passengers numbers
    • September saw a +11% increase in transatlantic passengers numbers
    The latest Red C research at Shannon show that Kerry is the county benefiting the most from increased transatlantic passenger numbers at Shannon, with 39% of transatlantic passengers interviewed in the survey this year having holidayed in The Kingdom, up from 31% in the same survey last year.

    Clare continues to be the county most visited by transatlantic passengers at Shannon, with 52% of respondents stating that they spent time in the Banner County, up from 46% in the same period last year.

    Galway also performed well, with 34% of respondents saying they visited the county, again up (from 29%) on last year.

    Cork, likewise, benefited from the growth with 25% of those interviewed confirming they spent time there, up from 22% from the corresponding period last year.

    The research also indicated a growing trend of transatlantic passengers through Shannon visiting Dublin, with 29% reporting that they spent time in the capital compared to 17% last year.

    Said Mr Pakey, “The Red C research has given us some interesting indicators. Transatlantic passengers spend more than any others, not least as they typically stay longer, so it is great to see all the key tourism counties serviced by Shannon benefiting.”

    Limerick doesn't feature at all, even though Shannon is on Limerick's doortstep?


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  • #757
    Jamie2k9
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    zulutango wrote: »
    Limerick doesn't feature at all, even though Shannon is on Limerick's doortstep?

    With respect to Limerick people, why would somebody come to visit? Whats there?


  • #758
    JCX BXC
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    With respect to Limerick people, why would somebody come to visit? Whats there?

    King Johns castle I think is the only reason to visit. Maybe the crescent for a bit of shopping. One of the few decent shopping places in munster.

    Possibly thomond park, but that wouldn't be much of a destination.


  • #759
    Cookiemunster
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    King Johns castle I think is the only reason to visit. Maybe the crescent for a bit of shopping. One of the few decent shopping places in munster.

    Possibly thomond park, but that wouldn't be much of a destination.

    Fixed your error. You're forgiven this one time ;)


  • #760
    JCX BXC
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    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Fixed your error. You're forgiven this one time ;)

    Oops sorry. Thanks


  • #761
    zulutango
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    With respect to Limerick people, why would somebody come to visit? Whats there?

    I would say that it's Ireland's nicest city, steeped in history and culture. It isn't marketed particularly well though.

    Some unrivalled attractions would be:

    King John's Castle
    St. Mary's Cathedral
    The Hunt Museum
    The Riverside Walk (probably the most picturesque in the country)

    There's some great night life and cultural options too.


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  • #762
    lockman
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    With respect to Limerick people, why would somebody come to visit? Whats there?

    http://limerickcityofculture.ie/


  • #763
    Silentcorner
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    It is important to point out that Clare performs fairly poorly as well as Limerick in the overnight category. Even tho a lot of people visit Clare, they are bused in and bused out just as quick.

    Compare the amount of hotels in Killarney with the amount of hotels in Ennis, two towns approx the same size, both on the edge of some of the nicest scenery on this island. I think Killarney has 40 hotels compared to 5 in Ennis? And I have no problem saying that I think Ennis (as a town centre) is just a bit prettier than Killarney, I cannot fathom why there aren't more tourists in Ennis.

    The entire mid west region is completely undersold, the sooner we wake up to that the sooner something can be done about it.

    As for Limerick, it is a complete mystery how a town that is so filled with history and culture not to mention an 800 yr old Castle and Cathedral and 4 museums performs so poorly. Well...it's not a mystery.


  • #764
    Mr. G
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    Folks, Can we please keep this relevant to Shannon Airport. Thanks
    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Fixed your error. You're forgiven this one time

    There's no need to comment on others' spelling.


  • #765
    JCX BXC
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    Anyone know why EI134 (BOS-SNN) is cancelled. It has been noted as cancelled since before todays flight to Boston took off. So if its cancelled how does the aircraft get back to Shannon?


  • #766
    Jamie2k9
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Anyone know why EI134 (BOS-SNN) is cancelled. It has been noted as cancelled since before todays flight to Boston took off. So if its cancelled how does the aircraft get back to Shannon?

    Most likely crew being out of hours. A/c will position empty to SNN for tomorrows flight.


  • #767
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    GE buys Irish helicopter-leasing firm for €1.4bn (Irish Examiner)

    Dublin-based helicopter-leasing firm Milestone Aviation Group is to be acquired by the sector’s biggest player, GE Capital Aviation Services, for nearly $1.8bn (€1.4bn).

    Helicopter finance is one of the fastest-growing areas of the aviation sector. The move will diversify the GECAS — General Electric’s aircraft-leasing subsidiary, which also has a base in Shannon — business model beyond leasing of commercial jets and put its capital “to work at good returns”, according to chairman and chief executive Keith Sherin.


  • #768
    Brennans Row
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    The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for September.

    The overall total UK figures are up +5.26% as against the same month from last year.

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  • #769
    highlydebased
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    Aer Lingus Malaga on sale now for next summer 2pw from May 17 next. Faro also 3pw.


  • #770
    Brennans Row
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    United Airlines (UA986) on route from Paris to Chicago diverted to Shannon today.

    14937143513_af4f1c74c4_c.jpg

    UAL 986 taxies for departure during a diversion on the Paris Charles De Gaulle to Chicago O'Hare route.

    Image and text by Trevor Mulkerrins


  • #771
    Brennans Row
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    Aerial photos of Shannon Airport 1947/48 (Britain from Above)

    XAW009598.jpg


    XAW019419.jpg


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  • #772
    Growler!!!
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    An addition to the above



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  • #773
    highlydebased
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    A runway for every mood!! :D

    I wonder what ones are shown in the images above- 07/25 and 13/31 I'm guessing at least?


  • #774
    Brennans Row
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    I think these are the old closed runway Details:

    04/22 1970 m × 60 m
    13/31 1720 m × 45 m
    18/36 1713 m × 45 m
    08/26 1465 m × 45 m

    The present runway is:

    06/24 3199 m × 45 m


  • #775
    JCX BXC
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    Aer Lingus' Service to Lanzarote seems to be extended by two weeks talking it into April.

    What I also noticed about the service to Lanzarote is that it uses the same A319 that is on the SNN-LHR route. This means only 1 flight can be operated by the A319 on the saturday that the Lanzarote route. So another 1 is operated by an A320. There is no third flight.


  • #776
    highlydebased
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Aer Lingus' Service to Lanzarote seems to be extended by two weeks talking it into April.

    What I also noticed about the service to Lanzarote is that it uses the same A319 that is on the SNN-LHR route. This means only 1 flight can be operated by the A319 on the saturday that the Lanzarote route. So another 1 is operated by an A320. There is no third flight.

    Beats me why they won't run ACE for the summer.

    EI385/7 is operated by DUB A320 on a W rotation.


  • #777
    Jamie2k9
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    Beats me why they won't run ACE for the summer.

    They had it released for summer 2015 but removed it a few weeks ago.


  • #778
    JCX BXC
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    They had it released for summer 2015 but removed it a few weeks ago.

    They had?
    Did they remove it when they noted ryanairs twice weekly in the summer?

    Or maybe they are waiting until they make an official route announcement?


  • #779
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,756 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    They had?
    Did they remove it when they noted ryanairs twice weekly in the summer?

    Not sure why it removed it but the winter service is very dependent on agents block buying seats for package holidays.

    It could be something like DUB base is very busy in summers especially on Saturdays and they want to keep the third daily LHR on Saturdays but they don't have the capacity at DUB to cover the service if ACE operated.


  • #780
    JCX BXC
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Not sure why it removed it but the winter service is very dependent on agents block buying seats for package holidays.

    Surely they would have an even stronger trade doing that in the summer?


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  • #781
    Brennans Row
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    Irish lambs sold for ritual slaughter (Sunday Times)

    Almost 1,700 lambs were flown from Ireland to Singapore earlier this month where they were slaughtered during an Islamic religious festival using methods banned within the European Union.

    The animals were flown 11,000km from Shannon airport to Singapore on October 2 by Atlas Air, a carrier which specialises in transporting high-value animals around the world. One lamb died during the transportation.

    On arrival in Singapore, the lambs were transported to 13 mosques where they were killed during the Korban festival, also known as the festival of sacrifice. It commemorates the prophet Ibrahim’s obedience to God, with some meat from the slaughter dispensed to poor families and neighbours. The event also involved the ritual killing of goats, cows and camels.

    I don't see this livestock trade to Singapore lasting if the animals are not slaughtered in abattoirs. (Previous post)


  • #782
    Sicky
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Sicky


    Thought some of you might find this interesting?

    (Sorry can't post link).

    BBC Radio 4 - Archive on 4, Atlantic Crossing


  • #783
    JCX BXC
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    There is an extensive fuel spill on the M18 from junction 14 barefield all the way to limerick so if anyone is going to Shannon, there may be a few delays. For anyone coming from Limerick the R445 is closed.


  • #784
    Brennans Row
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    Ryanair Supports 67% of Traffic Growth at Irish Airports after Government Scrapping of Travel Tax Stimulates Tourism Boom (Ryanair)

    Looking at the tables below, Shannon’s April to September numbers are quite good.

    I hope that full year forecast will be on target.

    326164.png


  • #785
    Brennans Row
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    Transaero Engineering has a number of vacancies advertised in this week's Limerick Post. :)

    This is good news for its future in Shannon, considering the uncertainties arising from the Ukraine crisis.


  • #786
    JCX BXC
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    Just heard the roar of an Atlas Air 747 go over my house, any idea where it's heading?


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  • #787
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    The Breeders’ Cup takes place in California next weekend and I presume that Aiden O’Brien & Co. are competing again this year.

    Just watched the 2013 race video again, his horse Magician truly won a sensational victory.

    Image and text by Donal Morrissey.

    Dubai Air Wing 747-412F Reg: A6-GGP operating as "DUB8" to Los Angeles on a horse charter.

    15625246325_666d052115_c.jpg


  • #788
    Brennans Row
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    Clare hoteliers on Las Vegas promotion (Clare Herald)

    Thirty-one tourism enterprises from around Ireland, including Dromoland Castle and Trump International Doonbeg, travelled to Las Vegas to join Tourism Ireland for this year’s IMEX America.

    Now in its fourth year, IMEX (International Meetings and Events Exhibition) America is an important event targeting decision-makers in the lucrative MICE (meetings, incentive, conferences and events) industry.

    Almost 3,000 buyers from North America, and elsewhere around the world, attended the three-day show – which provided valuable business and networking opportunities for the participating Irish tourism operators.

    Business tourism is the most lucrative form of tourism, with visitors travelling here for business purposes spending about 2.5 times more than the average visitor.


  • #789
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    I thought with the clocks going back, it heralds the end of the Summer 2014 Flight Schedule at Shannon. :confused:

    Therefore I was surprised to see four flights to Manchester today i.e. three Aer Lingus Regional and one Ryanair.

    06:45 EI3600 Manchester (MAN) Aer Lingus AT72
    10:50 EI3606 Manchester (MAN) Aer Lingus AT42
    19:15 EI3608 Manchester (MAN) Aer Lingus AT42
    21:15 FR4777 Manchester (MAN) Ryanair B738

    When will Shannon upload their Summer 2015 Flight Schedule?


  • #790
    Jim Martin
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    Sicky wrote: »
    Thought some of you might find this interesting?

    (Sorry can't post link).

    BBC Radio 4 - Archive on 4, Atlantic Crossing

    Was this it?:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0414b1m


  • #791
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Date of schedule change varies and does not nessecarily fall on same day as time change.


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  • #792
    Brennans Row
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    air-transat-shannon.gif?w=750&h=464

    Air Transat will not operate it’s seasonal Toronto service from Shannon next year (Clare Herald) :(

    Shannon Airport is set to lose it’s only direct link with Canada after Air Transat confirmed that it will not operate it’s seasonal service to Toronto in 2015.

    It’s understood that Air Transat suffered an 30% drop in it’s Shannon business in 2014. An airline spokeswoman said: “Air Transat will no longer offer flights to Toronto from Shannon in 2015. These changes are the result of new orientation of our network, tied to fluctuations in demand.”

    An airport spokesman said: “We are having discussions on an ongoing basis with airports and airlines with regard to possible opportunities on our transatlantic network, including on Canadian services following Air Transat’s decision not to return with its 18 flights that operated from June to the middle of October last year.”

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    I wonder would Air Canada be interested in picking up passengers at Shannon, the Tel Aviv to Toronto flight refuelled in Shannon a number times this summer?


  • #793
    JCX BXC
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
    I wonder would Air Canada be interested in picking up passengers at Shannon, the Tel Aviv to Toronto flight refuelled in Shannon a number times this summer?

    If they were, this would mean an isreal and Canadian route. That would make a very very very welcome addition to the airport. Strong inbound and outbound markets there.


  • #794
    Brennans Row
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    Yet another charter flight heading for the Breeders Cup :cool:

    Image and text by Donal Morrissey.

    Kalitta Air 747-4H6 N741CK departing Shannon as "Connie 518" to Los Angeles on a horse charter for the Breeders Cup 2014

    15459645800_0cc5332c8e_c.jpg


  • #795
    Sicky
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Sicky


    Jim Martin wrote: »
    Was this it?:


    That's the one!
    Ballygreen, ATC, bars & restaurants in the good old days all get a mention.


  • #796
    Brennans Row
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    Summer Flights (Shannon Airport)

    The table below lists the range of direct flights available to and from Shannon for Summer 2015.

    The airport seems to have uploaded today their summer 2015 schedule, but a quick glance at the table reveals it to be nothing more than the summer schedule for 2014.

    The 2015 table is showing the withdrawn flights to Liverpool, Manchester (Aer Lingus) and Toronto. :o


  • #797
    JCX BXC
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    Brennans Row wrote: »

    The airport seems to have uploaded today their summer 2015 schedule, but a quick glance at the table reveals it to be nothing more than the summer schedule for 2014.

    The 2015 table is showing the withdrawn flights to Liverpool, Manchester (Aer Lingus) and Toronto. :o
    It seems to be the exact same as last year, it has not updated. Liverpool is Still there, no Ryanair to Manchester and so is Toronto.


    But the summer schedule is still disappointing. I was looking forward to a Amsterdam or Frankfurt route.


  • #798
    JCX BXC
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    No Manchester flight today :/


  • #799
    Growler!!!
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    No Manchester flight today :/

    The times don't really suit to be honest.

    Looks like the ATR42 has gone elsewhere:(


  • #800
    Brennans Row
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    Shannon Heritage on tourism promo visit to Canada (Clare Herald)

    Five Irish tourism companies – including Shannon Heritage – joined Tourism Ireland in Canada for a sales blitz called Connect Canada II – targeting around 60 top travel agents, as well as 20 travel and lifestyle media, based in western Canada, in the cities of Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver.

    **************************************************************

    Great, I suppose we will have to wait and see if Shannon Airport can find a replacement for Air Transat.


  • #801
    highlydebased
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    Growler!!! wrote: »

    Looks like the ATR42 has gone elsewhere:(

    Had a nice spin into SNN on it on Monday night! I'd put money on it returning for the quieter winter months though?


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