Lack of new routes at Cork airport

AugustusMinimus · 29-08-2014 12:03pm

Andip wrote: »

daa dont have any involvement in Shannon so why would that concern them ?

Government influence presumably. What's your take on the reason why Cork Airport hasn't yet been granted full independence and yet Shannon has ?

Rhys Essien · 29-08-2014 12:09pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Coveney is the highest ranking politician from Cork and he looks next to useless.

The DAA aren't going to hand over control of Cork Airport as it might hurt Shannon. The whole situation is an absolute mess.

Another way to look at it is if the DAA give Cork airport too much control then Cork airport becomes a threat to Dublin Airport's passenger numbers.How could they pay back the €600m for T2.

Just heard on the radio now that the Cork Chamber of Commerce are now calling for the Cork-Dublin route to be restarted.It would be good for connecting flights from Dublin they said.Unbelievable.:rolleyes:

AugustusMinimus · 29-08-2014 12:35pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Another way to look at it is if the DAA give Cork airport too much control then Cork airport becomes a threat to Dublin Airport's passenger numbers.How could they pay back the €600m for T2.

Just heard on the radio now that the Cork Chamber of Commerce are now calling for the Cork-Dublin route to be restarted.It would be good for connecting flights from Dublin they said.Unbelievable.:rolleyes:

On that basis, what was the point in giving Shannon independence ? I can't believe that none of the multinationals aren't kicking up a stink about all this.

Rhys Essien · 29-08-2014 12:42pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

On that basis, what was the point in giving Shannon independence ? I can't believe that none of the multinationals aren't kicking up a stink about all this.

They are.Read back a few posts/pages on this thread.

What the Chamber are saying today is get the Cork-Dublin route back and we can fly anywhere from there.Shur let the tumbleweed blow around Cork airport.Bunch of Clowns.

cgcsb · 29-08-2014 1:46pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Im well aware of that but you know what I mean.eg Would it not be handier for Kerry people to fly out of Cork rather than Dublin.

not really, Aer Lingus Regional connect Kerry to Dublin for ongoing flights all over Europe and North America

CB19Kevo · 29-08-2014 3:18pm

DAA Should be forced to split Cork airport from its management.
There is a lot going for the airport so we should not be in this situation.
- Only minutes from city centre.
- Serving a county of over 500,000
- Large multinationals operating near by.
- A large modern terminal.

AugustusMinimus · 29-08-2014 4:03pm

CB19Kevo wrote: »

DAA Should be forced to split Cork airport from its management.
There is a lot going for the airport so we should not be in this situation.
- Only minutes from city centre.
- Serving a county of over 500,000
- Large multinationals operating near by.
- A large modern terminal.

The airport itself could easily be supporting transatlantic flights too. I'm amazed it hasn't happened already considering the multinational presence in Cork.

shnaek · 29-08-2014 6:55pm

Only in Ireland does this sort of crap happen.

Farce #1 politicians divert people to an airport with a lower population for no apparent reason other than politics.

Farce #2 our main airports aren't served by rail, despite spending hundreds of millions on terminals.

Farce #3 if Cork Chamber of Commerce think the solution is a link to Dublin, why not link to London where there are even more flights and it's the same distance away? Or Schiphol for that matter? In fact, why not move the businesses to Dublin... oh wait....

lisasimpson · 29-08-2014 6:59pm

I wish the Dublin cork flight was still there for the all Ireland with this threatened rail strike

KCAccidental · 29-08-2014 7:55pm

shnaek wrote: »

Only in Ireland does this sort of crap happen.

Farce #1 politicians divert people to an airport with a lower population for no apparent reason other than politics.

Farce #2 our main airports aren't served by rail, despite spending hundreds of millions on terminals.

Farce #3 if Cork Chamber of Commerce think the solution is a link to Dublin, why not link to London where there are even more flights and it's the same distance away? Or Schiphol for that matter? In fact, why not move the businesses to Dublin... oh wait....

well to be fair we are already linked to London and Amsterdam, but I agree with your other points.

I think the Cork-Dublin flight is a short sighted solution to a long term problem, sadly.

kub · 30-08-2014 9:03am

This Cork / Dublin flight will hardly ever be reinstated considering all these regulations regarding being at the airport 2 hours before your flight and not been able to bring your chosen beverage onto the plane.

In that 2 hours you could have left home in Cork and be on the M7 by Naas,or even further, then the flexibility of having your own transport in Dublin. There is no time saving whatsoever unless of course you are getting a connecting flight at Dublin.

Of course DAA would like this route reinstated as they would take US bound passengers from Shannon.

Red Nissan · 30-08-2014 10:04am

kub wrote: »

Of course DAA would like this route reinstated as they would take US bound passengers from Shannon.

Somewhat valid points, I think it's 3/4hr now for boarding [at least it is for some Ryanair flights].

A regional service should be just that, a literal hop on, hop off [mindful of the plane of course

] and the possibility of taking from so over packed trains, must have some potential ????

Speed used be the reason I flew Dublin to Cork in the last century but speed advantage, as you say, is not there anymore.

kub · 30-08-2014 12:07pm

KCAccidental wrote: »

They took most of the Ryanair flights and routes that were introduced in 2011/12.

makes depressing reading.

Thanks for posting that but I have to query are those Shannon figures including all the diverted flights which landed there instead of Cork & Dublin during the stormy winter weather that year. The long runway at Shannon namely runway 24 was about the only runway in this island that planes could land on during those high winds.
Also quite a few UK flights were also diverted there because of snow storms if I remember correctly.
But if it makes them happy to claim incorrect figures let them off, it is their own credibility which they are damaging.

Fabio · 30-08-2014 3:39pm

For economical Cork to US flights the runway would need to be longer. It can take large aircraft but only with reduced fuel or cargo or passenger loads. The less full the plane, the more expensive it is to run of course. United Airlines were rumoured to be looking into it but again the runway needs to be longer.

What Cork needs is more European routes. I'd love to see TA routes to the US and Canada but the runway just won't hold that. In that sense I would see no big problem with connecting flights to Dublin. Think of it this way - Cork loses out on US visitors because it is not easy to get to Cork unless you're flying to London from where you can get to Cork easily. Imagine being a US tourist and booking your flight and you can see that you can fly to Cork, albeit through Dublin. It makes your trip a whole lot easier. It also ensures more people will go through Cork, albeit for flights which then leave from Dublin. Apparently the demand isn't there though. How could it be made? There must be some way...

I love how quiet and easy to get through Cork is and as long as there are connections to London and Schiphol you can reach the world from Cork. Ideally though you want the rest of the world to find it easier to get to Cork. With the present arrangements that won't happen.

Rhys Essien · 30-08-2014 7:49pm

Airport management are meeting 15 airlines in Chicago next month.Possibility of a transatlantic route starting up.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysis/declining-cork-airport-needs-new-direction-284203.html

KCAccidental · 30-08-2014 8:11pm

Fabio wrote: »

For economical Cork to US flights the runway would need to be longer. It can take large aircraft but only with reduced fuel or cargo or passenger loads. The less full the plane, the more expensive it is to run of course. United Airlines were rumoured to be looking into it but again the runway needs to be longer.

What Cork needs is more European routes. I'd love to see TA routes to the US and Canada but the runway just won't hold that. In that sense I would see no big problem with connecting flights to Dublin. Think of it this way - Cork loses out on US visitors because it is not easy to get to Cork unless you're flying to London from where you can get to Cork easily. Imagine being a US tourist and booking your flight and you can see that you can fly to Cork, albeit through Dublin. It makes your trip a whole lot easier. It also ensures more people will go through Cork, albeit for flights which then leave from Dublin. Apparently the demand isn't there though. How could it be made? There must be some way...

I love how quiet and easy to get through Cork is and as long as there are connections to London and Schiphol you can reach the world from Cork. Ideally though you want the rest of the world to find it easier to get to Cork. With the present arrangements that won't happen.

Not strictly true in regards to transatlantic routes. It's true the widebodies like 767, 777, A330 aren't able to take off fully laden, but on marginal routes (which Cork would be) Airlines are using 757s which are can operate fully from Cork. Aer Lingus, Delta and United all use them on transatlantic routes from Ireland.

kub · 30-08-2014 11:57pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Airport management are meeting 15 airlines in Chicago next month.Possibility of a transatlantic route starting up.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/analysis/declining-cork-airport-needs-new-direction-284203.html

'Meeting with airliners THAT COULD start a transatlantic service', that is not saying much.

I had to laugh at Michael Martins' comments, the poor man has a bad memory, his government got that terminal built with a promise that the debt would not affect Cork airport.

lisasimpson · 09-09-2014 12:18pm

according to the evening echo Cork Dublin route could be returning in April operated by stobart

razorblunt · 09-09-2014 12:30pm

I don't know if I've said it on this thread or not, but Cork needs to follow the lead of Edinburgh Airport, which is growing at an alarming rate, last 18 months has seen flights to Philadelphia, Toronto, Chicago, Newark, Middle East.

Fabio · 09-09-2014 1:31pm

Edinburgh...have you any articles on that actually, be an interesting read?

Fabio · 09-09-2014 1:36pm

KCAccidental wrote: »

Not strictly true in regards to transatlantic routes. It's true the widebodies like 767, 777, A330 aren't able to take off fully laden, but on marginal routes (which Cork would be) Airlines are using 757s which are can operate fully from Cork. Aer Lingus, Delta and United all use them on transatlantic routes from Ireland.

I stand corrected, 757s could easily do TA services at MTOW alright.

Rhys Essien · 09-09-2014 3:29pm

lisasimpson wrote: »

according to the evening echo Cork Dublin route could be returning in April operated by stobart

This could be the death of the airport.Shur we'll cancel the few routes that are left and get all connecting flights from Dublin.

razorblunt · 10-09-2014 8:42am

Fabio wrote: »

Edinburgh...have you any articles on that actually, be an interesting read?

Don't really have anything to hand, but this site looks like it has a collection of news stories:

http://www.airportwatch.org.uk/?page_id=5422

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-27780263

Looks like they're launching a daily flight to Abu Dhabi in 2015!

cgcsb · 10-09-2014 1:12pm

What is the function of a Dublin to Cork route? is it subsidised? Surely in line with environmental protection the state instead focus on a radical improvement of the Dublin-Cork railway line which can deliver journey times faster than flying, centre to centre.

moyners · 10-09-2014 1:31pm

That's fine if Dublin is your destination. I have to fly quite a bit for work, often to regional cities, and being able to connect with flights would be incredibly handy rather than long waits for connecting flights in Amsterdam/Frankfurt/Heathrow. I think most business fliers would be the same. I would take a flight connecting in Dublin over having to get the train/bus or drive to Dublin airport any day. But that's just my personal opinion, I would be delighted if they brought back the connection to Dublin.

As to the argument it will stop development of direct routes, I'm not sure if that'd be the case because there probably isn't the demand to fill a direct flight to many places other than capital cities and the like.

KCAccidental · 10-09-2014 1:36pm

cgcsb wrote: »

What is the function of a Dublin to Cork route? is it subsidised? Surely in line with environmental protection the state instead focus on a radical improvement of the Dublin-Cork railway line which can deliver journey times faster than flying, centre to centre.

Mainly to funnel through connecting passengers for transatlantic ops from Dublin.

AugustusMinimus · 02-10-2014 8:58am

So, after becoming independent of the DAA, Shannon Airport has won European Airport of the year.

And what is going to happen in Cork. Absolutely ****ing nothing. Will still get ruled from Dublin and we'll continue to lose flights. What a ****ing mess.

kub · 02-10-2014 10:27pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

So, after becoming independent of the DAA, Shannon Airport has won European Airport of the year.

And what is going to happen in Cork. Absolutely ****ing nothing. Will still get ruled from Dublin and we'll continue to lose flights. What a ****ing mess.

Ah the DAA are great, they are now planning a service from Cork to Dublin so that everyone as a previous poster mentioned can just fly to Dublin and transfer up there. Great business idea by DAA.
I suppose at that rate they might only need to open the airport a few times a day whenever the Dublin flight operates, a bit like back in the 1960's.

Rhys Essien · 03-10-2014 5:28pm

I always thought that the 3 main airports in Ireland should have been Dublin,Cork and Knock.The distance between Dublin-Knock and Dublin-Cork is almost the same,it almost forms the perfect triangle on the map.Knock would accomodate the west/north west of Ireland far better that what Shannon does.Imagine having to travel to Shannon or Dublin from the north of Donegal.

Having 2 main airports in Munster that are 77 miles apart makes no sense,with the airport in the area with the greater population now dying a death.What were the government who let this happen thinking,when opening Shannon.

Passenger numbers for 2013 is also a joke,Dublin-20.2m,Cork-2.2m and Shannon-1.4m

Having Dublin 9 and 14 times respectively,busier than 2nd and 3rd cant be a good thing in the long run.Its also kind of ironic that the airport which is the gateway to the nicest part of the country,the south/south west region,is left to turn into a ghost town.

AugustusMinimus · 03-10-2014 6:01pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

I always thought that the 3 main airports in Ireland should have been Dublin,Cork and Knock.The distance between Dublin-Knock and Dublin-Cork is almost the same,it almost forms the perfect triangle on the map.Knock would accomodate the west/north west of Ireland far better that what Shannon does.Imagine having to travel to Shannon or Dublin from the north of Donegal.

Having 2 main airports in Munster that are 77 miles apart makes no sense,with the airport in the area with the greater population now dying a death.What were the government who let this happen thinking,when opening Shannon.

Passenger numbers for 2013 is also a joke,Dublin-20.2m,Cork-2.2m and Shannon-1.4m

Having Dublin 9 and 14 times respectively,busier than 2nd and 3rd cant be a good thing in the long run.Its also kind of ironic that the airport which is the gateway to the nicest part of the country,the south/south west region,is left to turn into a ghost town.

Shannon opened before Cork and was built where it was built for a reason. In times before very large planes, smaller planes used to land in Shannon to refuel as Shannon is one of the last airports in Europe before America.

the beer revolu · 03-10-2014 7:03pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Shannon opened before Cork and was built where it was built for a reason. In times before very large planes, smaller planes used to land in Shannon to refuel as Shannon is one of the last airports in Europe before America.

It was also a legacy of the flying boats landing in the Shannon estuary and unloading in Foynes. But Foynes lost out when the land based airport moved upstream to where Shannon airport is now leaving Foynes a shadow of its cosmopolitan past.

54kroc · 03-10-2014 7:21pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

It was also a legacy of the flying boats landing in the Shannon estuary and unloading in Foynes. But Foynes lost out when the land based airport moved upstream to where Shannon airport is now leaving Foynes a shadow of its cosmopolitan past.

Flying boats, I'd loved to have seen them.
Personally I'd be quite happy to see the return of the Cork Dublin flight.

kub · 03-10-2014 9:17pm

54kroc wrote: »

Flying boats, I'd loved to have seen them.
Personally I'd be quite happy to see the return of the Cork Dublin flight.

Is that for just flying between both cities or are you connecting with flights in Dublin?

Cherry_Cola · 05-10-2014 10:02am

I see the Ryanair flight to East Midlands is gone now too. Is that a seasonal thing or permanent?

Also, Aer Lingus taking over the Newcastle flights is a joke, way more expensive than Jet2 ever were.

I'll be flying out of Dublin a lot more now.

corkonion · 06-10-2014 1:12pm

The problem with anyone starting a Cork/Dublin route, is that Ryanair will probably, once again, come in behind them with the same route until such time as they close them down and then cease their own flights. They have done this many times in Cork to other airlines like aer arann and whizz air, where they duplicate the same routes at a lower cost until they squeeze them out, then they move their own operations to shannon where costs are lower or simply cut them completely. Even on short haul holiday destinations ryanair only fly to destinations that were already covered by air lingus.

razorblunt · 07-10-2014 1:14pm

Cherry_Cola wrote: »

I see the Ryanair flight to East Midlands is gone now too. Is that a seasonal thing or permanent?

Also, Aer Lingus taking over the Newcastle flights is a joke, way more expensive than Jet2 ever were.

I'll be flying out of Dublin a lot more now.

You sure that's Aer Lingus and not Stobart Air?

.red. · 07-10-2014 4:56pm

razorblunt wrote: »

You sure that's Aer Lingus and not Stobart Air?

Its an aer lingus route being flown by aer lingus regional and operated by stobart air!

Balmed Out · 08-10-2014 9:12am

http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/10/07/ryanair-announce-cork-airport-summer-schedule/

Ryanair announced its summer schedule. I dont notice anything new though.

The 18 routes Ryanair will operate from Cork next summer are:

Alicante 2 x weekly
Bordeaux 2 x weekly
Carcassonne 2 x weekly
Faro 4 x weekly
Fuerteventura 1 x weekly
Gdansk 2 x weekly
Girona 2 x weekly
Gran Canaria 1 x weekly
Lanzarote 3 x weekly
Liverpool 5 x weekly
London Gatwick 1 x daily
London Stansted 3 x daily
Malaga 4 x weekly
Milan 2 x weekly
Palma 2 x weekly
Pisa 2 x weekly
Tenerife 1 x weekly
Wroclaw 3 x weekly

Pitcairn · 08-10-2014 9:14am

Balmed Out wrote: »

http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/10/07/ryanair-announce-cork-airport-summer-schedule/

Ryanair announced its summer schedule. I dont notice anything new though.

The 18 routes Ryanair will operate from Cork next summer are:

Alicante 2 x weekly
Bordeaux 2 x weekly
Carcassonne 2 x weekly
Faro 4 x weekly
Fuerteventura 1 x weekly
Gdansk 2 x weekly
Girona 2 x weekly
Gran Canaria 1 x weekly
Lanzarote 3 x weekly
Liverpool 5 x weekly
London Gatwick 1 x daily
London Stansted 3 x daily
Malaga 4 x weekly
Milan 2 x weekly
Palma 2 x weekly
Pisa 2 x weekly
Tenerife 1 x weekly
Wroclaw 3 x weekly

Yea that's a reduced list from 2014. They have dropped East Midlands.

At the end of the month they are also moving Cork - Vilnius to Shannon.

corkonion · 08-10-2014 12:09pm

There was a good interview on local radio with one of Ryanair's executives yesterday, he explained that as second cities go, Cork is the most expensive second city in europe for Ryanair to operate from, with identical charges to Dublin airport, He said it costs them on average €25 in airport charges for every individual passenger that they deliver to Cork. He also gave the impression that in his opinion Cork would certainly continue to decline on an ongoing basis with its current structure.

ComeraghBlue · 08-10-2014 12:27pm

They also dropped Reus.

If this theme continues I can see Shannon overtaking Cork as Ireland's second biggest airport. Action is needed. The situation is getting worse every year

Pitcairn · 08-10-2014 12:50pm

Yea Shannon is set to overtake Cork again next year and the second busiest airport.
Ryanair said they'd bring extra flights to Shannon if it was made independent and had lower charges. They have been true to their word.
They have already moved two Polish flights from Cork to Shannon and will also move the Lithuanian flight.
Their marketing guy said Cork will continue to decline while it is tied to the DAA charging the same landing fees as Dublin.

http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/10/08/ryanair-cork/

08-10-2014 4:19pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

I always thought that the 3 main airports in Ireland should have been Dublin,Cork and Knock.The distance between Dublin-Knock and Dublin-Cork is almost the same,it almost forms the perfect triangle on the map.Knock would accomodate the west/north west of Ireland far better that what Shannon does.Imagine having to travel to Shannon or Dublin from the north of Donegal.

Having 2 main airports in Munster that are 77 miles apart makes no sense,with the airport in the area with the greater population now dying a death.What were the government who let this happen thinking,when opening Shannon.

Passenger numbers for 2013 is also a joke,Dublin-20.2m,Cork-2.2m and Shannon-1.4m

Having Dublin 9 and 14 times respectively,busier than 2nd and 3rd cant be a good thing in the long run.Its also kind of ironic that the airport which is the gateway to the nicest part of the country,the south/south west region,is left to turn into a ghost town.

The sweetheart deal that Shannon got of €300 million screwed over both Knock and Cork. Shannon without debt can now undercharge to scab passengers off Cork and Knock.

http://www.irelandwestairport.com/utility/news_archive_details.aspx?id=308

http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/ireland-west-airport-knock-future-827907-Mar2013/

It is stated government policy to keep Shannon open at the expense of Knock. Following that i expect they also encourage movements of routes from Cork to Shannon to justify the massive bailout they were given.

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/leaked-report-forecasts-3000-new-jobs-at-shannon-within-five-years-28941979.html

Politicians here did raise concerns and threatened to take the government to the european courts. What did surprise me was the lack of response from cork, its looked like many turned a blind eye to what was happening before there eyes. The lack of support for Cork airport by Cork people really surprised me.
http://www.clare.fm/news/mcsharry-refuses-request-withdraw-shannon-airport-complaint

The decline in Cork is a direct response to the deal given to shannon by Nonnan and Leo. Cork will decline further when the M20 is finished as Shannon will have cheaper flights due to there bailout.

To respond to your post yes Cork, Knock and Dublin are in the right position. Take the road from Cork to Letterkenny Cork, Shannon and Kerry airports are all in the first quarter distance of that route. With an existing massive Shannon lobby in government and 100's of millions already pumped in to Shannon just to keep it open they will not change their mind to easily.

They will do whatever it takes to keep Shannon open and thats very bad news for the future of Cork airport and its surroundings.

lostinsuperfunk · 08-10-2014 5:16pm

Bordeaux and Carcassonne were 3x weekly last summer and I think there may have been flights to La Rochelle too.

who_me · 08-10-2014 5:42pm

corkonion wrote: »

There was a good interview on local radio with one of Ryanair's executives yesterday, he explained that as second cities go, Cork is the most expensive second city in europe for Ryanair to operate from, with identical charges to Dublin airport, He said it costs them on average €25 in airport charges for every individual passenger that they deliver to Cork. He also gave the impression that in his opinion Cork would certainly continue to decline on an ongoing basis with its current structure.

Is this related to the €100m of debt the Cork airport board voted to take on (why????) following the re-organisation a few years back. If they're servicing that debt, perhaps they can't afford to lower the cost of the slots.

CB19Kevo · 08-10-2014 7:17pm

This is something that Cork people should be protesting about,We will end up losing jobs and investment if Cork airport keeps deteriorating.
Over 500,000 in Cork county and Cork would be handier option for most of Kerry and Waterford for routes not served in the regional airports.
Seems either people are unaware that we are loosing out or they just don't care.

AugustusMinimus · 08-10-2014 11:45pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The sweetheart deal that Shannon got of €300 million screwed over both Knock and Cork. Shannon without debt can now undercharge to scab passengers off Cork and Knock.

http://www.irelandwestairport.com/utility/news_archive_details.aspx?id=308

http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/ireland-west-airport-knock-future-827907-Mar2013/

It is stated government policy to keep Shannon open at the expense of Knock. Following that i expect they also encourage movements of routes from Cork to Shannon to justify the massive bailout they were given.

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/leaked-report-forecasts-3000-new-jobs-at-shannon-within-five-years-28941979.html

Politicians here did raise concerns and threatened to take the government to the european courts. What did surprise me was the lack of response from cork, its looked like many turned a blind eye to what was happening before there eyes. The lack of support for Cork airport by Cork people really surprised me.
http://www.clare.fm/news/mcsharry-refuses-request-withdraw-shannon-airport-complaint

The decline in Cork is a direct response to the deal given to shannon by Nonnan and Leo. Cork will decline further when the M20 is finished as Shannon will have cheaper flights due to there bailout.

To respond to your post yes Cork, Knock and Dublin are in the right position. Take the road from Cork to Letterkenny Cork, Shannon and Kerry airports are all in the first quarter distance of that route. With an existing massive Shannon lobby in government and 100's of millions already pumped in to Shannon just to keep it open they will not change their mind to easily.

They will do whatever it takes to keep Shannon open and thats very bad news for the future of Cork airport and its surroundings.

Slowly, but surely Limerick is overtaking Cork as the country's 2nd city and there is little that people in Cork seem to care about this fact.

The treatment of our airport is by far the biggest political issue in this city at present. However, the majority just want to protest about the water meters, an issue which is putting in the shade the whole airport controversy.

I remember a time when people believed an independent Cork Airport could start taking some transatlantic flights away from Shannon. Just look at it now.

This current Fine Gael government has been hugely pro-Limerick and its been to the detriment of Cork. In terms of infrastructure projects, all we've had is the 2 flyover built and we were lucky to get that.

AugustusMinimus · 08-10-2014 11:46pm

CB19Kevo wrote: »

This is something that Cork people should be protesting about,We will end up losing jobs and investment if Cork airport keeps deteriorating.
Over 500,000 in Cork county and Cork would be handier option for most of Kerry and Waterford for routes not served in the regional airports.
Seems either people are unaware that we are loosing out or they just don't care.

People seem content to keep bleating out the same "The Real Capital" nonsense. Our city council is absolutely inept and our politicians on a national level are completely failing us. Can't say the same about those from Limerick or Galway though.

fergie24 · 09-10-2014 10:34am

Cork politicians over the last 20years have been failing Cork badly. The city boundary needs to be chanced for years and the airport is dieing slowly but surely but all you will hear at the next election is fcuking water meters.

Im not sure how all the big multinational companies stay in Cork? Limerick, Clare, Galway would be a better location with more options for transatlantic flights and more European destinations.

09-10-2014 11:17pm

fergie24 wrote: »

Im not sure how all the big multinational companies stay in Cork? Limerick, Clare, Galway would be a better location with more options for transatlantic flights and more European destinations.

Knock plan on re-starting some transatlantic flights next year, you can bet when they do the people of the west north west region will support them to keep them running. They had routes last year but the airline went bust.:(

Cork has a very big population and is completely underselling itself. It should be a dominant force outside Dublin but there appears to be little interest in it for some reason from Cork people

If Cork county people alone took some pride in the airport they have on their doorsteps it would easily continue to be the 2nd biggest airport in the country.

Lack of new routes at Cork airport

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