Western Rail Corridor (all disused sections)

05-09-2017 2:41am

I wouldn't worry, that'd bridge will see a million bikes before it sees a single train

westtip · 05-09-2017 11:34am

McAlban wrote: »

70k is a large amount of money to a lot of people, but in the grand scheme of things for infrastructure of all types, it's not a lot of money.

When are you going to accept that the WRT is about as alive as the WRC? Constant propaganda pieces from Sligo Greenway Co-Op or WOT aren't going to change that, It's why other projects are getting funded by councils and yours is not.

Constant propaganda - what an interesting comment. Actually, I prefer to use the phrase media management. One well known Mayo cllr said on the national airwaves several years ago "the Western Rail Corridor is not up for debate" he was referring to the choice of greenway or railway, he has been proven so wrong in terms of what is up for debate. I admit it is frustrating the greenway, despite huge popular support, has not yet got funded whilst other projects have, but it has nothing to do with media management of the debate on this subject, far from it. It is down to the near obsession now that West on Track have with stopping the greenway from happening, because they know it will be a success and they also know the railway is never going to happen. In any event, we are not seeking to get funded by councils, they have no money, it is government funding we are seeking, and believe me, it will be achieved.

schemingbohemia · 05-09-2017 12:26pm

Would the 70k not cover the design of a bridge that could be either a railway bridge or a greenway bridge? If both it's hardly a waste.

eastwest · 05-09-2017 12:26pm

westtip wrote: »

Constant propaganda - what an interesting comment. Actually, I prefer to use the phrase media management. One well known Mayo cllr said on the national airwaves several years ago "the Western Rail Corridor is not up for debate" he was referring to the choice of greenway or railway, he has been proven so wrong in terms of what is up for debate. I admit it is frustrating the greenway, despite huge popular support, has not yet got funded whilst other projects have, but it has nothing to do with media management of the debate on this subject, far from it. It is down to the near obsession now that West on Track have with stopping the greenway from happening, because they know it will be a success and they also know the railway is never going to happen. In any event, we are not seeking to get funded by councils, they have no money, it is government funding we are seeking, and believe me, it will be achieved.

It is interesting that although WOT has conceded that north of Claremorris is not a runner, judging by their deal in the formation of government, they still continue to block the greenway through Mayo, and indeed they still oppose it in Sligo despite it being a done deal in that county.
So you're right; the pro-rail lobby has long morphed into an anti greenway lobby.
Governments love this kind of division, it gives them an excuse to do nothing and invest nothing in the region.

eastwest · 05-09-2017 12:34pm

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Would the 70k not cover the design of a bridge that could be either a railway bridge or a greenway bridge? If both it's hardly a waste.

When the greenway is being built they are very unlikely to build a heavy rail bridge to carry it. Most likely is a lightweight footbridge that will.have to be separately designed, so I'm afraid this 70k really is money down the drain.
If an employee of the council did this they'd be in trouble, but these politicians seem immune.

sonnyblack · 06-09-2017 8:57am

eastwest wrote: »

When the greenway is being built they are very unlikely to build a heavy rail bridge to carry it. Most likely is a lightweight footbridge that will.have to be separately designed, so I'm afraid this 70k really is money down the drain.
If an employee of the council did this they'd be in trouble, but these politicians seem immune.

But if you turn that on its head. The Greenway supporters claim that they want to use the line as a greenway for walking and cycling to preserve the line for use as a railway at some stage down the line if it ever came to pass. It's unlikely to happen but why not build a bridge now that is dual purpose and can work for both uses.

Muckyboots · 06-09-2017 9:49am

sonnyblack wrote: »

But if you turn that on its head. The Greenway supporters claim that they want to use the line as a greenway for walking and cycling to preserve the line for use as a railway at some stage down the line if it ever came to pass. It's unlikely to happen but why not build a bridge now that is dual purpose and can work for both uses.

Correct- it makes it difficult to maintain the "protect the alignment" argument when you get animated over a small beans spend, albeit in a face saving exercise. If people are running around looking for facts and figures to rub into other peoples faces it just becomes personal and petty.

eastwest · 06-09-2017 11:09am

sonnyblack wrote: »

But if you turn that on its head. The Greenway supporters claim that they want to use the line as a greenway for walking and cycling to preserve the line for use as a railway at some stage down the line if it ever came to pass. It's unlikely to happen but why not build a bridge now that is dual purpose and can work for both uses.

That's the issue; this bridge isn't going to be built. So why spend (waste) 70k on designing a bridge that won't be built?
Nobody in their right mind will spend a couple of million euros on a bridge to carry a greenway, when a simple prefabbed footbridge will do the job.
The problem is with designing a bridge before any project, railway or greenway, has been defined and approved. That is where the abuse of public funds has taken place.

rebel456 · 06-09-2017 1:42pm

eastwest wrote: »

That's the issue; this bridge isn't going to be built. So why spend (waste) 70k on designing a bridge that won't be built?
Nobody in their right mind will spend a couple of million euros on a bridge to carry a greenway, when a simple prefabbed footbridge will do the job.
The problem is with designing a bridge before any project, railway or greenway, has been defined and approved. That is where the abuse of public funds has taken place.

70k is the cost of a Dáil vote. Will give the WOT folks a nice shiney graphic to show off I guess.

Just think of what 70k would do if invested in the Greenway...

McAlban · 06-09-2017 1:50pm

rebel456 wrote: »

70k is the cost of a Dáil vote. Will give the WOT folks a nice shiney graphic to show off I guess.

Just think of what 70k would do if invested in the Greenway...

About 1,200 Tonnes of Gravel.

Or about 500m of Surface.

rebel456 · 06-09-2017 1:58pm

McAlban wrote: »

About 1,200 Tonnes of Gravel.

Or about 500m of Surface.

Lay that 500m through the town of Tuam and give the locals a sample of what they can expect. Would make a nice walkway for the town in its own right, including adding some life to the old station.

JCX BXC · 06-09-2017 2:02pm

rebel456 wrote: »

Lay that 500m through the town of Tuam and give the locals a sample of what they can expect. Would make a nice walkway for the town in its own right, including adding some life to the old station.

Not that simple, you've to worry about possible carparking, gates, fencing, etc.

5rtytry56 · 06-09-2017 2:05pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Not that simple, you've to worry about possible carparking, gates, fencing, etc.

don't forget cost of renovating station buildings in health and safety cobext: foot bridges

rebel456 · 06-09-2017 2:13pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Not that simple, you've to worry about possible carparking, gates, fencing, etc.

It's town centre, no need for a carpark.

5rtytry56 wrote: »

don't forget cost of renovating station buildings in health and safety cobext: foot bridges

Close it off until it can be renovated. As it's now more publicly accessible it's an incentive for the local council to fund a renovation. I don't see anyone wanting to invest in a building that would just straddle a little used freight line... look at Navan.

eastwest · 06-09-2017 2:30pm

rebel456 wrote: »

Lay that 500m through the town of Tuam and give the locals a sample of what they can expect. Would make a nice walkway for the town in its own right, including adding some life to the old station.

70k would lay a lot more than 500m. Don't forget that the stone ballast is already in place and just needs blinding and topping.
I'll happily deliver 2km of greenway through Tuam if somebody gives me 70k.

JCX BXC · 06-09-2017 2:35pm

How about not doing a half arsed job and actually doing something proper like the Waterford Greenway? Not close this part off and this and blah.

eastwest · 06-09-2017 3:22pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

How about not doing a half arsed job and actually doing something proper like the Waterford Greenway? Not close this part off and this and blah.

That's what the people of Tuam and Athenry are trying to do, but a handful.of politicians don't want it to happen.
in Waterford they had the same problem, with nine councillors fighting against the greenway right to the end. That's the parish pump, same everywhere. The deise greenway is a done deal now though, in spite of them, and it's the best thing to happen in waterford in a generation.
Sooner or later the same thing will.happen in Galway.

westtip · 06-09-2017 3:22pm

rebel456 wrote: »

70k is the cost of a Dáil vote. Will give the WOT folks a nice shiney graphic to show off I guess.

Just think of what 70k would do if invested in the Greenway...

Or pay for the feasibility study for the greenway, something that might actually happen, not waste it on a railway standard bridge that is simply not going to happen.

McAlban · 06-09-2017 8:37pm

eastwest wrote: »

That's what some the people of Tuam and Athenry are trying to do, but a handful.of politicians representing other people in Tuam and Athenry don't want it to happen.

Fixed that for you.

eastwest wrote:

in Waterford they had the same problem, with nine councillors fighting against the greenway right to the end. That's the parish pump, same everywhere. The deise greenway is a done deal now though, in spite of them, and it's the best thing to happen in Waterford in a generation.

Too soon after Sunday Man, Too Soon.

eastwest wrote:

Sooner or later the same thing will.happen in Galway.

Yep. On the M&GWR Galway to Clifden branch and the Dublin Galway Greenway (If they ever sort it out). Not on the WRC.

eastwest · 06-09-2017 9:45pm

McAlban wrote: »

Too soon after Sunday Man, Too Soon.

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:D:D:D:D:D

eastwest · 06-09-2017 9:49pm

McAlban wrote: »

On the M&GWR Galway to Clifden branch and the Dublin Galway Greenway (If they ever sort it out). Not on the WRC.

It's the WRT now, in all but name.
Given that the first phase of the WRC is threatened with closure, and that both Varadkar and the Finance Minister have affirmed that the railway 'mistake' is not going to be repeated, I'd say we'll see Sinn Fein accepting nominations from the branches for an openly elected party leader before we see a train on that line.
I'd give it until Christmas, when like the war, it will be over.

westtip · 07-09-2017 7:17am

Any news on when the NTA public consultation report on rail will be released, I was in touch with them in July and they said probably late September (which probably means November - but lets not put a year on it!) judging by the comments from Irish Rail a couple of weeks back about line closures my guess is that Sean Canney will be trying his level best to delay its publication even longer, I can't imagine the report will be recommending opening anymore of the so called Western Rail Corridor, in fact judging by what Irish Rail said three weeks ago, Ennis/Athenry might be under threat (this won't close) but the mere suggestion of it will of course finally kill off the remaining fantasy project.

eastwest · 07-09-2017 1:02pm

westtip wrote: »

Any news on when the NTA public consultation report on rail will be released, I was in touch with them in July and they said probably late September (which probably means November - but lets not put a year on it!) judging by the comments from Irish Rail a couple of weeks back about line closures my guess is that Sean Canney will be trying his level best to delay its publication even longer, I can't imagine the report will be recommending opening anymore of the so called Western Rail Corridor, in fact judging by what Irish Rail said three weeks ago, Ennis/Athenry might be under threat (this won't close) but the mere suggestion of it will of course finally kill off the remaining fantasy project.

There's little doubt that Ennis-Athenry will be recommended for closure, along with two or three others, but that doesn't mean they'll all close. I agree, it will be the last one to face the chop, mostly because it is relatively new and in good condition and because it is just too political.
What I do expect to see is some kind of a statement to the effect that there will be no more investment in new railways, except for the Belfast-Cork route and maybe the Dublin Airport link. But will they stop short of spelling out the obvious, that any expansion of the WRC is dead in the water, or will they leave the door cracked open enough to keep the dreamers happy, particularly the IA rump of government?
My guess is that they will leave the wording ambiguous enough to keep the stalemate alive for another decade or two. Bad news for the west, but good enough for the populists eyeing the next election.

westtip · 07-09-2017 3:46pm

eastwest wrote: »

There's little doubt that Ennis-Athenry will be recommended for closure, along with two or three others, but that doesn't mean they'll all close. I agree, it will be the last one to face the chop, mostly because it is relatively new and in good condition and because it is just too political.
What I do expect to see is some kind of a statement to the effect that there will be no more investment in new railways, except for the Belfast-Cork route and maybe the Dublin Airport link. But will they stop short of spelling out the obvious, that any expansion of the WRC is dead in the water, or will they leave the door cracked open enough to keep the dreamers happy, particularly the IA rump of government?
My guess is that they will leave the wording ambiguous enough to keep the stalemate alive for another decade or two. Bad news for the west, but good enough for the populists eyeing the next election.

yes indeed it will be the usual way of dealing with it. can kicking. of course it depends if the greenway can be made an issue at the next election who knows the anti tourism TD in Tuam who opposes the greenway might be ousted on this issue.

end of the road · 07-09-2017 3:58pm

westtip wrote: »

yes indeed it will be the usual way of dealing with it. can kicking. of course it depends if the greenway can be made an issue at the next election who knows the anti tourism TD in Tuam who opposes the greenway might be ousted on this issue.

that would be impossible seeing as there is no anti tourism TD in Tuam. there is a td who opposes the greenway, who (assuming those who voted for him even have an interest in this issue either way) is reflecting the opinions of those who did vote for him.

eastwest · 07-09-2017 4:40pm

end of the road wrote: »

that would be impossible seeing as there is no anti tourism TD in Tuam. there is a td who opposes the greenway, who (assuming those who voted for him even have an interest in this issue either way) is reflecting the opinions of those who did vote for him.

If it walks like a duck........

westtip · 07-09-2017 4:53pm

end of the road wrote: »

that would be impossible seeing as there is no anti tourism TD in Tuam. there is a td who opposes the greenway, who (assuming those who voted for him even have an interest in this issue either way) is reflecting the opinions of those who did vote for him.

my guess is the greenway may be made an issue in Tuam and any td or candidate opposed to it will be seen as anti tourism. hence the label anti tourism TD. If enough people are made aware of his anti greenway anti tourism stance it may not stand him in good stead. I guess it will be upto other campaigners to manage information and make everyone aware of the anti greenway tourism stance of their local td

end of the road · 07-09-2017 5:07pm

westtip wrote: »

my guess is the greenway may be made an issue in Tuam and any td or candidate opposed to it will be seen as anti tourism. hence the label anti tourism TD. If enough people are made aware of his anti greenway anti tourism stance it may not stand him in good stead. I guess it will be upto other campaigners to manage information and make everyone aware of the anti greenway tourism stance of their local td

but the local td isn't anti-tourism. he just isn't in favour of the greenway. of course he wants tourism, what td doesn't. however, it could turn out that if built the greenway may not bring any tourism, what then?

westtip · 07-09-2017 5:27pm

end of the road wrote: »

but the local td isn't anti-tourism. he just isn't in favour of the greenway. of course he wants tourism, what td doesn't. however, it could turn out that if built the greenway may not bring any tourism, what then?

I guess we will have to wait and see. like they did in Waterford. if he wants tourism why does he oppose the greenway. he knows as an independent TD he will not change European TEN T transport policy already approved by the dept of transport. So we have to assume his anti greenway stance is in fact anti tourism and will need to make sure as many voters as possible know a vote for him blocks the greenway and blocks tourism. ergo anti tourism TD.

Del.Monte · 07-09-2017 7:50pm

As an aside, it's a good many years since I travelled over the Athenry/Claremorris section but I don't remember anything particularly scenic about it - am I wrong? The Waterford, Westport/Achill and even the Limerick Greenways all have scenery - is it another build it and they will come scenario?

Muckyboots · 07-09-2017 8:01pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

As an aside, it's a good many years since I travelled over the Athenry/Claremorris section but I don't remember anything particularly scenic about it - am I wrong? The Waterford, Westport/Achill and even the Limerick Greenways all have scenery - is it another build it and they will come scenario?

Ya, nothing to see around here. Feck off with the lot of ye. Mountains and sea that's scenery. We've just got plain old countryside. Balls up the tourist rail argument too. Freight or nothing. The smellier the better.

Muckyboots · 07-09-2017 8:01pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

As an aside, it's a good many years since I travelled over the Athenry/Claremorris section but I don't remember anything particularly scenic about it - am I wrong? The Waterford, Westport/Achill and even the Limerick Greenways all have scenery - is it another build it and they will come scenario?

Ya, nothing to see around here. Feck off with the lot of ye. Mountains and sea that's scenery. We've just got plain old countryside. Balls up the tourist rail argument too. Freight or nothing. The smellier the better.

Del.Monte · 07-09-2017 8:05pm

Muckyboots wrote: »

Ya, nothing to see around here. Feck off with the lot of ye. Mountains and sea that's scenery. We've just got plain old countryside. Balls up the tourist rail argument too. Freight or nothing. The smellier the better.

Something like this?

rebel456 · 07-09-2017 8:07pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

As an aside, it's a good many years since I travelled over the Athenry/Claremorris section but I don't remember anything particularly scenic about it - am I wrong? The Waterford, Westport/Achill and even the Limerick Greenways all have scenery - is it another build it and they will come scenario?

I don't go to a Greenway for the scenery - any type of field & the odd town/village/suburb is grand. I go for a cycle away from roads, much much safer as any road in Ireland from small boreen to city streets to N roads has eejits speeding. Also away from the exhaust pollution & noise. Come to think of it the Mullingar/Athlone greenway is mostly flat & straight, not the most scenic. Greenways are a decent attraction in their own right.

bk · 07-09-2017 8:57pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

As an aside, it's a good many years since I travelled over the Athenry/Claremorris section but I don't remember anything particularly scenic about it - am I wrong? The Waterford, Westport/Achill and even the Limerick Greenways all have scenery - is it another build it and they will come scenario?

The truth is even the least "scenic" parts of Ireland are vastly more scenic then most of Europe and large parts of the world in general. Much more scenic then much of the land people love cycling through in Holland for instance.

I notice many, if not most, Irish people completely take for granted just how beautiful our countryside is. We grew up with it all around us, so take it for granted.

But having travelled around the world and having travelled around Ireland with foreign friends and seen it through their eyes, I now realise how insanely scenic nearly the entire country of ours is to them.

If we build green-ways all over the country and link them up, I promise you, we won't know what to do with the massive influx of German, etc. cyclists. We are really sitting on a tourist goldmine right under our feet, if only we could be less closed minded.

westtip · 07-09-2017 8:58pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

As an aside, it's a good many years since I travelled over the Athenry/Claremorris section but I don't remember anything particularly scenic about it - am I wrong? The Waterford, Westport/Achill and even the Limerick Greenways all have scenery - is it another build it and they will come scenario?

Ah yes the "no scenery argument" it reminds me so much of a submission I made to those W*******s in Mayo County Council planning department on February 12th 2014 (go look for it - its on the MAYO COCO WEBSITE!

Submission on the draft Mayo county plan

West on Track State
It is stated that comparing the Claremorris-Collooney rail line to the Great Western Greenway is
disingenuous as the latter is built along the route of a railway that was formally abandoned before
its removal in 1937 and runs through some of the most magnificent scenery in Co. Mayo whereas
there is no comparable scenery along the Claremorris-Collooney route which remains a rail line in
the possession of the state.

Response: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, clearly this disparaging comment about the quality of the scenery on the route is at best ignored. Clearly West on Track have no appreciation of the honest open country side the route travels through with lovely views of the Ox mountains, Nephin, or Croagh Patrick in the distance. Nor does West on Track appreciate the numerous businesses and hostelries on the route that simply want to welcome the tired hungry tourists off their bikes and into their businesses to enjoy some West of Ireland hospitality. It is a pity West on Track cannot see the beauty of their own county.

Mayo county council ignored the 300 submissions asking for a greenway through this stunning countryside

bk · 07-09-2017 9:00pm

MOD: Snipped out the name their. Thanks

Stephen15 · 07-09-2017 9:02pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

As an aside, it's a good many years since I travelled over the Athenry/Claremorris section but I don't remember anything particularly scenic about it - am I wrong? The Waterford, Westport/Achill and even the Limerick Greenways all have scenery - is it another build it and they will come scenario?

True enough I know someone who did the Mullingar-Athlone greenway and they said it was crap nothing to see

eastwest · 07-09-2017 9:25pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

As an aside, it's a good many years since I travelled over the Athenry/Claremorris section but I don't remember anything particularly scenic about it - am I wrong? The Waterford, Westport/Achill and even the Limerick Greenways all have scenery - is it another build it and they will come scenario?

Yes, nothing to see. No ribbon development, no backs of trucks, no traffic lights, no exhaust fumes.
Just flat trails through unspoiled countryside, hedgerows, streams, trees, railway heritage, open countryside, bogs etc.
The kind of experience that has proved so popular elsewhere.

westtip · 07-09-2017 9:53pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

As an aside, it's a good many years since I travelled over the Athenry/Claremorris section but I don't remember anything particularly scenic about it - am I wrong? The Waterford, Westport/Achill and even the Limerick Greenways all have scenery - is it another build it and they will come scenario?

Fair play to Sligo Greenway co-op they have exposed some of the dreadful scenery (not a patch on Achill) here on their website, it is pure dreadful, sure no one in their right mind would want to enjoy this tranquility

http://www.sligogreenway.com/

and if you go to their fb page there are more photos of the dreadfully boring scenery you will see and the dreadfully inhospitable Sligo people who will have the audacity of welcoming you with open arms once the greenway is built.

Shocking stuff. Down with this sort of thing.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=sligo%20greenway%20co-op%20ltd

Del.Monte · 08-09-2017 12:04am

westtip - God loves a trier. I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if the wretched Claremorris/Collooney Greenway gets established and proves to be a success.

westtip · 08-09-2017 10:37am

Del.Monte wrote: »

westtip - God loves a trier. I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if the wretched Claremorris/Collooney Greenway gets established and proves to be a success.

It will probably be Collooney/Charlestown first as the backward thinking Mayo county council have dug their heels in - largely due to the Claremorris influence of West on Track on Cllrs who are doing as much as they can to stop a greenway in East Mayo on the closed railway. In fact the way things are going in terms of proactive support from councils we might end up with a greenway from Athenry to Milltown on Galway/Mayo border and greenway from Collooney to Charlestown on the Sligo Mayo border and the unfortunate people of East Mayo left with a rusting railway that the council will continue to refuse the notion of a greenway on, mind you it doesn't really help when the Minister for Westport will do nothing to support the greenway idea, still pandering to the views of West on Track, BTW the reason he doesn't want a greenway in East Mayo as he thinks it will somehow take trade from the Great Western Greenway, it won't and if the two are connected it will actually enhance the great western greenway, but he cannot see past the parish pump.

ClovenHoof · 09-09-2017 7:55pm

How dare Westip try to stop a priest from using hundreds of millions of taxpayer's money to get a first class ticket though the Pearly Gates!

eastwest · 09-09-2017 11:02pm

ClovenHoof wrote: »

How dare Westip try to stop a priest from using hundreds of millions of taxpayer's money to get a first class ticket though the Pearly Gates!

Yes, he should know that it's priests who bring infrastructure to the west, the holy place with the knock in it.
First they brought the airport, now they'll bring the train.
And no one can be saved who through his own fault remains outside the circle.

westtip · 10-09-2017 9:32pm

eastwest wrote: »

Yes, he should know that it's priests who bring infrastructure to the west, the holy place with the knock in it.
First they brought the airport, now they'll bring the train.
And no one can be saved who through his own fault remains outside the circle.

Again I say "Down with this sort of thing.":D

westtip · 12-09-2017 10:52am

m17 on your bike.jpg

The end of the western rail corridor, the motorway opens this week I think, they had a big cycle ride on it last weekend, apparently thousands of cyclists on the new motorway! looks like someone left their bike behind on the motorway, perhaps we can find them a route to cycle on!

Unless this was Sean Canneys bike to promote the alternative greenway route along the hard shoulder of the motorway.....:D

MayoForSam · 12-09-2017 1:48pm

westtip wrote: »

m17 on your bike.jpg

The end of the western rail corridor, the motorway opens this week I think, they had a big cycle ride on it last weekend, apparently thousands of cyclists on the new motorway! looks like someone left their bike behind on the motorway, perhaps we can find them a route to cycle on!

Unless this was Sean Canneys bike to promote the alternative greenway route along the hard shoulder of the motorway.....:D

2000 cyclists were the first members of the public to travel along the new M17 as part of a fundraiser for local Lions Clubs in Tuam and Gort. Despite the inclement weather (and 40 Euro a head), it was a very popular event and it goes to show the local appetite for 'getting on your bike'.

eastwest · 12-09-2017 1:58pm

MayoForSam wrote: »

2000 cyclists were the first members of the public to travel along the new M17 as part of a fundraiser for local Lions Clubs in Tuam and Gort. Despite the inclement weather (and 40 Euro a head), it was a very popular event and it goes to show the local appetite for 'getting on your bike'.

Not all 'Dublin 4 types' then?

westtip · 12-09-2017 2:15pm

MayoForSam wrote: »

2000 cyclists were the first members of the public to travel along the new M17 as part of a fundraiser for local Lions Clubs in Tuam and Gort. Despite the inclement weather (and 40 Euro a head), it was a very popular event and it goes to show the local appetite for 'getting on your bike'.

Build it and they will come!

eastwest · 16-09-2017 10:16am

I see that a minister is one of the people cycling the route from Enniskillen to Tuam today in support of the greenway project.
Surely nobody still believes that government support is for opening a railway on the route? Ministers don't do things like this without checking with the boss.

Western Rail Corridor (all disused sections)

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