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Odeon Point Village & iSense

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Overall it's bigger than both. It's not as wide as the Savoy, but that's because the Savoy is 2.35:1. Which means if you are going to see a 2.35:1 film, the Savoy is still the biggest. But if the film is 1.85:1, Odeon would be bigger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,196 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    I'm going into the iSense cinema tomorrow night, so i'll try and report back. We'll see if these premier seats are actually any better than the normal ones as well (the first five rows or so are normal seats, the good ones are all premier, so kinda felt like we had to go for the premier ones to get a decent view).


  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭twistyj




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    Crash wrote: »
    I'm going into the iSense cinema tomorrow night, so i'll try and report back. We'll see if these premier seats are actually any better than the normal ones as well (the first five rows or so are normal seats, the good ones are all premier, so kinda felt like we had to go for the premier ones to get a decent view).

    Cool, let us know how you get on. I was actually planning to head to it this weekend but I'm going to wait to see if Wrath of the Titans will be in the iSense screen first.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    twistyj wrote: »

    That's a Ward Anderson cinema in Antrim, though it does seem to have a pretty large screen.

    Screen 1 in Vue Liffey Valley is named (by Liam Neeson, according to the plaque outside it) "The Big Fella". 195 square meters and was apparently the largest multiplex screen in the UK & Ireland when opened (as a Ster Century) in 1999. Yes, they bothered to redo the plaque when Vue took over.

    Presumably if this iSense does well in Odeon Point Village, we'll see it appear in other Odeons around the country as the rebrand progresses. I happen to think the Point Village isn't the best location for a cinema, but maybe it'll get a local trade, I just can't see it getting the passing trade that the city centre cinemas would get and its in the wrong location to get the suburban viewing public in.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Screen 2 and possibly 5 are just as big in Vue, just less seats. But wow, 195 square metres. I didn't realise it was that much larger than Cineworld. However, I suspect the Savoy's width means it's still larger for scope films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    icdg wrote: »
    I happen to think the Point Village isn't the best location for a cinema, but maybe it'll get a local trade, I just can't see it getting the passing trade that the city centre cinemas would get and its in the wrong location to get the suburban viewing public in.

    I agree, the location is not great for a cinema, as even though it's served by the LUAS, it's still off the beaten track compared to it's main competitors like the Savoy & Cineworld. It's actually quite a remote location and I wouldn't think it would be safest place at night. It kind of reminds me of The Lighthouse in Smithfield, lovely cinema but not exactly accessible as it's main competitors, the IFI & Screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,196 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    So, just back from seeing the hunger games in screen 1 in iSense.

    First about the cinema - so the entrance is directly beside the hotel, once you get to the entrance there's still about 3-4 minutes of walking and escalators to get up to it. There's a Ben & Jerrys place, a pick and mix, and 5-6 tills for food, and a couple for tickets. There's also a coffee shop (no booze though, I think). The credit card machines didn't seem to be working very well, but I guess opening night jitters are to be expected.

    Upstairs, before you go into screen 1 from the top, there's some couches and tables to sit around in - they've gone for clean and simple for most of the design of the place.

    as for the screen itself - looks pretty much the same to my eye as screen 17 in Cineworld - seats are at a slightly greater pitch though I think. The sound, judging by the demo they showed beforehand, is impressive but a little gimmicky (though it was a demo) but wasn't exactly pushed by the hunger games. Very immersive view though - thanks to the decent pitch you have a nice uninterrupted view of the screen.

    It was pretty hard to figure out what seat you're supposed to be in though - the row markings were pretty poor, and the staff still didnt fully know where they were supposed to be (again, having worked in a cinema before, i'll forgive them :))

    It was probably about 60% full for the showing this evening - dont know how well/badly that really is, with it being opening night and all. I'd go back, partly because it was a pleasant enough experience, partly because I can leave at the start time of the film, and still get in there before the trailers are done. It does feel a bit painful when you're paying 10.50 for the ticket, 2 euro for the iSense screen, and 1 euro for the marginally better seats (further back, headrest, more leg room, better tilt) - but not so bad that it'd turn me off.

    Also, be aware, the place only stocks nestle chocolate, so if you have to have your minstrels or M&Ms or Maltesers, be prepared :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Had a pretty good experience there earlier! Very immersive watching The Hunger Games.

    The interior of the cinema reminded me of The Lighthouse a bit, albeit super sized and catering for a different audience. It's ultra modern and the sheer size of the area it's in was impressive. Yeah I'd definitely go again and the location wasn't nearly as problematic as I expected it to be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    Thanks for the update Crash :)

    Sounds like a pleasant enough experience and I must admit you have me slightly intrigued now and I'm looking forward to paying a visit in the future.

    My main gripes are still with the location and the price. If the iSense screen is the same size as Cineworld 17 then I'd still prefer to watch a movie in a more convenient location. I was actually planning on going to see Wrath of the Titans this weekend but for €14.50 it seems abit steep considering it's only €8.60 in the Savoy (both 3D).

    If it was an IMAX screen then I'd be all over it regardless of the price but it's obviously not so that does concern me and I think the cinema will suffer greatly in the long run unless they drop their prices accordingly.

    I'd still like to see something like The Avengers or Prometheus in iSense for the sound quality plus the fact that there would be far less teenage messers then in the likes of Cineworld.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Apparently UCI Blanchardstown already has iSense. Mustn't take very much to retrofit so...

    http://www.uci.ie/fanatic/isense/?utm_source=uci&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=uci_skyscraper_isense&utm_campaign=uci_skyscraper_isense


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I've split Odeon/iSense discussion off from the old IMAX thread, which you can still find here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056500958


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Skinfull


    I'm trying to save my first Point Cinema trip for the Avengers but that's sooooo far away I may crack! I think its going to need to be a massive movie though, Wrath of Titans might get a look in!

    I have the unlimited card with Cineworld so I cant see myself making any real effort to trek out to the point, but if the screen / cinema is impressive enough, regardless of imax-ity or not then it will be an occasional stop!


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 maulikdesai1


    Hey guys, planning to go for 'Wrath of the Titans' 3D tonight, and really want to see what the feedback for this movie is from the new iSense screen at Odeon, else i might just go with Savoy and its massive screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    icdg wrote: »
    Apparently UCI Blanchardstown already has iSense. Mustn't take very much to retrofit so...

    http://www.uci.ie/fanatic/isense/?utm_source=uci&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=uci_skyscraper_isense&utm_campaign=uci_skyscraper_isense

    It's more expensive then the cinema at The Point Village for some reason as it costs €15.50 to see Wrath of the Titan's in iSense out in Blanch, so €1 more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Skinfull


    Just back from my trek out to the point to see Wrath of the Titans on the new isense and I have to say I'm not overly impressed. :(

    The screen is huge, and the premier seats are comfy and there is loads of leg room. But about 1/4 of the screen at the bottom was covered by the lower rows and other viewers heads. The vertical degree isn't steep enough, and the seats are too close to the screen so there is no clearance, if you get me. We were seated in about the 4th row of the premier seats, would recommend if you go to sit n the regular seats or at the front row of the premier.
    The sound is really good, and demonstrated well with a video that is way too long. But the room felt small. I kept thinking that Screen17 in cineworld was just so much better than this.

    Snacks are expensive, but then that's not new and there is a lack of toilets... though maybe I missed them.

    Great presentation, the place is lovely (though quite a bit of a trek after you go in the door!) but it all just felt a little... small. :(

    My trek was kind of a dry run to see if it was going to be worth it for the Avengers and I reckon we'll be sticking with Cineworld.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    ^^Agree with all of that. Also, I ended up using the wheelchair toilets cos I couldn't find any regular ones...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭BowWow


    I assume you have to park in the Point Underground car park? Is there any concession on the parking?


  • Registered Users Posts: 754 ✭✭✭ryoishin


    I think the disabled toilets on the top floor are the toilets. When your in at the actual screen itself there is a door on the other side of the room that leads to the toilet also.

    I like it but if it had of been full I would nt have been able to see the bottom of the screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Skinfull


    BowWow wrote: »
    I assume you have to park in the Point Underground car park? Is there any concession on the parking?

    I didn't notice any parking area as we took the luas (right to the door of the cinema) but there is a hotel there and maybe you could park in the hotel carpark.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    BowWow wrote: »
    I assume you have to park in the Point Underground car park? Is there any concession on the parking?

    Parking is €2.70 per hour. Sign says there's a 'concert rate' or something after 6pm but I don't know if that's a reduced rate or a more expensive one. Either is plausible! Either way, I turned around and drove straight back out. There's LOADS of on-street parking about 4 minutes walk away. €1.60 per hour and free from 7pm.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    Parking is €2.70 per hour. Sign says there's a 'concert rate' or something after 6pm but I don't know if that's a reduced rate or a more expensive one. Either is plausible! Either way, I turned around and drove straight back out. There's LOADS of on-street parking about 4 minutes walk away. €1.60 per hour and free from 7pm.

    When I went up last weekend the cinema validated my parking ticket and it was €5 for 3 hours, so not too bad.

    Thought the cinema was pretty impressive myself, saw Wrath of the Titans in 3D iSense, the sound system is amazing, the demo shows it off pretty well. Screen is massive, have no experience in any other large screen formats so have nothing to compare it to really, but I was impressed.

    I hope some more tennants fill up the shopping centre, it's kinda like walking through a zombie movie for minute or so it takes to walk through.

    Wasn't overly pushed on the film tho, was kinda meh.

    Also, actually, there's this pretty cool Mirror Mirror standee in the shopping centre lobby that frightened the shite out of me when I walked under it. Bloody thing talks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    I don't get this confusion over the toilets. :confused:

    They're just on the corridor leading up to Screen 1. Or you can just turn directly right as you walk into the cinema's lobby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Dermo


    e_e wrote: »
    I don't get this confusion over the toilets. :confused:

    They're just on the corridor leading up to Screen 1. Or you can just turn directly right as you walk into the cinema's lobby.

    There are 2 doors into the isense screen.

    The first is on the same floor as the cinema lobby which have toilets very close to the door.
    The second is on the next floor up where there are some nice couches but only a disabled toilet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Skinfull


    ...
    Also, actually, there's this pretty cool Mirror Mirror standee in the shopping centre lobby that frightened the shite out of me when I walked under it. Bloody thing talks!

    LOL It got me too! It was for snow white, the tunnel? Yeah when the forest noises came on I leapt and grabbed my friends arm. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭ciaran75


    does anyone know the size of the old screen 1 or current screen 9 in blanch?

    or size of screen 1 in vue


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I don't know about Blanch, but as posted earlier, Screen 1/2 in Vue is apparently 195 square metres. iSense is 160.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 fatcatskinnyrat


    was there earlier and very impressed-titanic in 3d..looking forward to hobbit and tdkr as im sure i read both are shot in 4k and isense has 4k projectors as opposed to 2k in most imax...
    was at odeon imax printworks in uk last year and its an imax as opposed to digital imax in other locations and i have to admit i think i sense is as good as imax as the sound was far superior and the picture quality was same-
    defo the seating would be an issue in point as regards not been able to see bottom of screen..
    toilets not really an issue as there downstairs beside screen 2-one disabled upstairs beside the lift which is probably a legal thing and another downstairs..
    spoke to manager about monthly ticket or any offer and he recommended the odeon premier club card so i got myself one free film with this so i might keep this for avengers and 25% off on a tuesday..
    seemed to be a leak from the gibson or centre roof when i was there-beside the escalators..bit unpleasant view..
    parking was 5euro for 3 hours which is very reasonable..
    could do with more signage and people in centre though as reminiscent of dawn of the dead


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 MrChavcore


    i was there today to see titanic in 3D on the isense and i dont know, my expectations were clearly too high because i wasn't overly impressed. perhaps if the cinema wasn't so far off the beaten track and it didn't seem as if you were walking through a deserted city (the ifsc and shopping mall?) then it'd be a bit of a better sell. the screen isn't THAT impressive and it actually cuts off chunks from the sides. the sound is the one redeeming features though and is fantastic. for the 14.50 i spent on the ticket and the 11 that snacks and a drink cost me i just didn't feel like i got value for money.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    They are cropping the picture? Seriously?

    Has anyone seen a film in 2.35:1 there yet?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,718 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Skinfull wrote: »
    The screen is huge, and the premier seats are comfy and there is loads of leg room. But about 1/4 of the screen at the bottom was covered by the lower rows and other viewers heads.

    Not the place for subtitled films then. The Savoy is the same: couldn't read some of the subtitles during The Raid because there was a head directly in front of me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    was there yesterday evening to see Pirates/Scientists in 3D. Place was very clean, had to go up a few escalators to get to the cine. Maybe word of mouth has to get around but it was scarily empty... like employees : patrons was literally about 1:2. Anyway 3D glasses + 3D film + premier seats was pretty expensive, about €12. Since it was screen 2 it wasn't the biggest; the fancy seats were nice, less stiff, practically same seats.

    Anyway only the big blockbusters would be in iSense, I can't recommend going unless you're in screen 1; but honestly location-wise (not as handy as Savoy or Cineworld), price & value isn't great, I don't know if I'll continue going, maybe once/twice more. If people aren't crazy about the screen size (i don't really care about audio) then that's about that!

    People working there were lovely though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭ciaran75


    Went to the ISENSE cinema in blanch last night to see Battleship and was very impressed (well movie aside)

    the sound was incredible, best cinema sound i've heard.

    screen was also crystal clear, again best i've seen so far (vue included)

    no problems in blanch with seeing bottom of screen either i hear others mention problem in point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭Ant


    27 Channels of sound on 54 speakers. As far as I know its about 4 times more than a regular screen.

    I really appreciate good sound and it's one of the reasons why I continue to choose the cinema over home viewing. I haven't been to the Odeon yet but does anybody know how many modern digital films actually have 27 separate channels to get the benefit from iSense?


  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭ciaran75


    Ant wrote: »
    I really appreciate good sound and it's one of the reasons why I continue to choose the cinema over home viewing. I haven't been to the Odeon yet but does anybody know how many modern digital films actually have 27 separate channels to get the benefit from iSense?

    i think they take a regular movie soundtrack and process's soundtrack to 14 - 120 channels.

    http://immsound.com/exhibitors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭Ant


    ciaran75 wrote: »
    i think they take a regular movie soundtrack and process's soundtrack to 14 - 120 channels.

    http://immsound.com/exhibitors

    I figured they were probably using some sort of audio post-processing like that. When I last looked into it, digital films were released with 2k video resolution and 5.1 sound (with 7.1 becoming starting to become more common from 2010 on).

    It seems we'll be waiting a while before mainstream films are released with native imm soundtracks (24 discrete audio channels) to get the full benefit of the Odeon's iSense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Quiet


    Hey all, thanks for your info.

    I regularly go to Vue even tho I live near Clontarf! I can do it in less than half hr drive and do it purely because most of their screens are quite large, there is free parking, they give vouchers for money off next film.

    I was really looking forward to Odeon cos it's a lot closer but after reading all your info on screen sizes and prices I'm so disapppointed at the fact that it's not the newest big screen in town which would have had justified the price. In addition the fact of paying for parking has put me right off even tho it's across the way via car journey.

    It seems lots of businesses use clever marketing of 'newness' and branded stylistic terms to mislead people into paying more money for something that's of no significant improvement at all.

    Pity..... cos it had potential


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    The Odeon is a really nice cinema but as an earlier posted said, it doesn't seem particularly busy. I went to see Lockout this evening and there were only about 8 people there. There were 4 customers, including myself, in the foyer when I arrived and about 7 staff - all about 5 minutes before multiple 17:15 screenings. Hopefully they stay open.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Can't see how it would; without shops in the rest of the complex it's a bit of a white elephant really & when I was there, pretty lacking in footfall. That area's a bit of a graveyard to begin with (Point Depot notwithstanding) and given the walk-in traffic places like The Savoy, Screen & Cineworld get purely on location, it's must too out of the way for city-centre custom. It'd be a shame if it did close, but the Lighthouse didn't fare any better...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    One thing I can't understand is that all the evening showings of the Avengers there are in 3D. Now, I'd imagine that the older you are, the less likely you are in the 3D version of a movie, and the later you would go to a showing. I was going to try it out, but really am not impressed by current 3D technology and prefer a 2D one.


    P.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,666 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    I know it's not great for their business, but I'm happy enough with it being empty - makes for a better cinema experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    MJohnston wrote: »
    but I'm happy enough with it being empty - makes for a better cinema experience.
    Going to The Avengers there later and it's looking like it'll be sold out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭DermoMIO


    the screen is no where near as big as cineworlds sound is very good though, think the main lobby is too small could get messy if a few movies finishing around the same time as each other


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 maulikdesai1


    just back from watching Avengers at iSense Odeon. Must say brilliant sound quality and huge screen. am no expert in comparing or measuring which is the best/biggest screen. but this one was huge.. Not to mention. super duper movie... now planning to go to cineworld tomorrow to watch the movie in 2D. ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭redt0m


    I don't know what the big deal about isense is, saw Avengers 3D there on saturday and, sorry, but I won't be going back to that screen, not even for 2D show - heads blocking the bottom of the screen (couldn't read any of the subtitles), sound surprisingly poor (saw Battleship in Cineworld on sunday and the difference was crazy), screen felt very narrow (Savoy 1 is bigger) - not impressed at all


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    There are 2 showings of Avengers there one at 8pm and one at 9pm which one will be in the big big screen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Over priced for what it is. IMO

    14.50 for the nice seats, and 13.50 for the really uncomfortable ones.

    Just not worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    Elmo wrote: »
    Over priced for what it is. IMO

    14.50 for the nice seats, and 13.50 for the really uncomfortable ones.

    Just not worth it.
    Yep - not to mention, the prices for popcorn / snacks are overpriced in an overpriced market. I always buy a large popcorn when at the cinema (no need to tell me to bring my own bag in, I prefer the warm stuff in the cinema!) and the Odeon's large popcorn is both more expensive and smaller than that at Cineworld. As are the ticket prices. Just can't see it being a success for this and other reasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Ticket prices in London were £13.50 for regular and another £3.00 for 3D. Now that's a rip off.

    Will there be an iMAX at this cinema?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    ionapaul wrote: »
    Yep - not to mention, the prices for popcorn / snacks are overpriced in an overpriced market. I always buy a large popcorn when at the cinema (no need to tell me to bring my own bag in, I prefer the warm stuff in the cinema!) and the Odeon's large popcorn is both more expensive and smaller than that at Cineworld. As are the ticket prices. Just can't see it being a success for this and other reasons.

    Agreed. Way too expensive. I booked online a few times now. Normal seats, tickets start at €10.50 and then they add another €1 or so on top as a 'handling charge' or whatever they're calling it now. Absolute nonsense. Do they not save money by automating the process online and via the ticket machines they have? i.e. they pay less staff wages.

    I really like the Odeon cinema but if it wants to survive a recession in what is essentially a ghost town part of the city, they're going to need to offer much better value. The fact that they don't even do proper loyalty cards a la Cineworld (~€20 pass for the month) in favour of their 'spend €1,000 and get a free ticket' card is another reason why I'll be going less often than I'd like to. Why not just make entry as cheap as possible? You'll still make your 1000% markup on popcorn and Coke from me!

    The Odeon is pretty convenient for me. I'd probably go 3 or 4 times a month. However, until they offer much better value, I'll probably only go 4 or 5 times the rest of the year to see the movies I really want to see. Pity. For the Odeon and me.


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