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corktina · 25-05-2013 7:53pm

Today in Carrick on Suir

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/corktina/library/carrick25052013

226 is coming together very nicely...watch this space!

Grandeeod · 25-05-2013 11:18pm

corktina wrote: »

Today in Carrick on Suir

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/corktina/library/carrick25052013

226 is coming together very nicely...watch this space!

226 has been coming together for years and thanks to a real crusader in Carrick! Next time you see him, say hello from the rebel in the Canary Islands. He should know what you mean.

corktina · 25-05-2013 11:59pm

i'm full of admiration for the way the boys there have stuck to it with 226, and G616 for that matter, hopefully both will run in the not too distant future.... I hope my efforts will help them along the way just a little.

Hungerford · 26-05-2013 10:25pm

corktina wrote: »

226 is coming together very nicely...watch this space!

I have been. It's starting to look disturbing like a fully functional locomotive.

Losty Dublin · 26-05-2013 10:31pm

As part of the Balbriggan Festival, the RPSI sent 461 and Cravens down the GNR mainline to run two local trains. While the out run from Dublin was somewhat sparse on passengers, the local shuttles were packed with over 600 passengers, all eager for a dose of steam haulage. And with 461 in fine steam, some excellent timings were made on the day, no mean feat given the notoriously gradients en route.

GM 226 lifted the Cravens prior to 461's departure for Balbriggan Here she sits in Connolly.

Letting off Steam at Laytown.

After the first shuttle, the empty set headed to Skerries to loop it's consist for the second run of the afternoon.

The beautiful approach to Balbriggan station.

461 finds the gradient out of Balbriggan a doodle and lets off excess pressure.

Awaiting her run home, 461 got some attention to her fire on the Navan branch.

Happy passengers alight after the second run from Drogheda.

On the run home, 461 was checked outside of Malahide viaduct. As she awaits permission to proceed, a local service waits up at Donabate.

Malahide Estuary looking inwards.

461 makes it back to Dublin at 16:30, 5 minutes ahead of schedule.

Captain Chaos · 26-05-2013 11:10pm

226 seems to be the Connolly pilot shunter this week. Spotted it shunting failed 231 around Connolly on Thursday afternoon and today it's shunting Cravens. Strange having a non Enterprise equipped 201 hanging around Connolly for so long.

Kudos to 461, it's putting on some great performances this year. Respect to the lads at Whitehead for their hard work in getting it to this condition.

LEIN · 29-05-2013 3:11pm

Nicked from Facebook.

Kilbarrack/Howth Junction 1981

Fred Swanson · 29-05-2013 9:53pm

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29-05-2013 9:56pm

1983 I'd think, as part of the DART construction.

foggy_lad · 30-05-2013 12:29am

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Connolly station turntable.

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Hilly Bill · 30-05-2013 12:24pm

Is it sutton?

foggy_lad · 30-05-2013 1:18pm

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Is it sutton?

Sallins station, It was closed for years then reopened.

Eiretrains · 30-05-2013 10:27pm

Just spent last few minutes looking at fascinating photos of trains and locomotives of various eras uploaded on the recently created New South Wales Photographic Collection on Flickr (similar to the NLI's site).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/state-records-nsw/with/6196934486/

Might be of interest for those who look outside of Irish railway history. A quick glance notices the similarity of the British/Irish locomotive design supplied to such regions. Almost mistook this to be of DSER origin.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/state-records-nsw/5620599944/

gobnaitolunacy · 31-05-2013 8:32am

Eiretrains wrote: »

Might be of interest for those who look outside of Irish railway history. A quick glance notices the similarity of the British/Irish locomotive design supplied to such regions. Almost mistook this to be of DSER origin.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/state-records-nsw/5620599944/

A Beyer Peacock product? Wouldn't look too much out of place on the West Cork either.

Always wondered why many colonial locos (not this particular one tho) got nice things like electric lighting and mechanical stokers when miserable oil lamps and backbreaking labour were par for the course back 'Home' until the end of steam.

Victor · 31-05-2013 3:54pm

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Always wondered why many colonial locos (not this particular one tho) got nice things like electric lighting and mechanical stokers when miserable oil lamps and backbreaking labour were par for the course back 'Home' until the end of steam.

Because the Irish trains never got replaced / updated.

gobnaitolunacy · 31-05-2013 4:05pm

Victor wrote: »

Because the Irish trains never got replaced / updated.

I wasn't referring to Ireland, which was 20 years or so behind the uk practice anyway.

British steam locos up to the demise of steam almost all of them had oil headlights and manual firing. Surprising in view of what they sent out to the colonies and elsewhere was generally to a higher spec. Maybe something to do with the cultures of the loco dept in pre-Grouping companies, eg the Midland 'small engine' policy, handicapping loco development well into LMS days.

L1011 · 31-05-2013 11:46pm

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

I wasn't referring to Ireland, which was 20 years or so behind the uk practice anyway.

Barring the whole total removal of steam from CIE earlier than the UK (twice)...

Hilly Bill · 01-06-2013 12:51am

foggy_lad wrote: »

Sallins station, It was closed for years then reopened.

Has that only recently been done up and opened? I spent a lot of time in Sallins station in 2011.

foggy_lad · 01-06-2013 2:06am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Has that only recently been done up and opened? I spent a lot of time in Sallins station in 2011.

Not sure if it will be opened but work still going on there to the station building which was in a poor state but looking a lot better now. The new ticket barriers at Newbridge and Kildare are in use afaik.

Victor · 01-06-2013 3:27pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The goods buildings at Kent station. Is the roofless building the good depot ?

The building in the foreground was a carriage shed.

Itssoeasy · 01-06-2013 9:29pm

The work on the bridge is still going and the ticket barriers are in place but not operational yet.

Victor · 01-06-2013 9:55pm

In addition to the new entrance by CIÉ/IÉ, it seems the council are proposing alterations to the Lower Glanmire Road.

Rud · 01-06-2013 10:38pm

foggy_lad wrote: »

Not sure if it will be opened but work still going on there to the station building which was in a poor state but looking a lot better now. The new ticket barriers at Newbridge and Kildare are in use afaik.

The ticket barriers are not in use yet in Newbridge

The_Wanderer · 02-06-2013 10:44pm

Evening folks,

Just a quick hop to Thurles this afternoon.
- 22031 1325 Heuston - Limerick.
- 22037 1420 Limerick - Heuston.
- 232 1400 Heuston - Cork.
- 22052 1820 Limerick - Heuston.
http://smu.gs/17gUkHt

The Wanderer.

The_Wanderer · 05-06-2013 8:31pm

Good evening all,

The sunny (Exam Time) weather was too much to resist this evening. So here is a selection of photos from 60 minutes split between Clonkeen, outside Portlaoise and Portarlington.
http://smu.gs/17pDrdM

The Wanderer.

cml387 · 11-06-2013 12:29pm

Did someone post a link to the O'Dea collection at the NLI

If not, here they are now.

dublinman1990 · 14-06-2013 1:04pm

I've found this on Twitter today while I was listening to the FM104 Phoneshow on Monday night.

Jeremy Dixon at Inchicore Depot.

The carriage does appear to be in great condition though on the inside.

Rocky Bay · 14-06-2013 2:37pm

DD9090 wrote: »

Nicked from Facebook.

Kilbarrack/Howth Junction 1981

Where is that train headed?

steamengine · 14-06-2013 3:05pm

Howth

Rocky Bay · 14-06-2013 7:32pm

steamengine wrote: »

Howth

A goods train to Howth? Where would it have been unloaded in Howth?

LEIN · 14-06-2013 7:35pm

Rocky Bay wrote: »

A goods train to Howth? Where would it have been unloaded in Howth?

Could be ballast for maintenance or upgrades.

flyingsnail · 14-06-2013 7:41pm

Rocky Bay wrote: »

A goods train to Howth? Where would it have been unloaded in Howth?

They look like these wagons used for ballast

Captain Chaos · 14-06-2013 9:39pm

More of Howth Junction.

First photo is from around the mid 1970s I think.

This is from 1974

Grandeeod · 14-06-2013 11:15pm

DD9090 wrote: »

Could be ballast for maintenance or upgrades.

Its obviously ballast judging by the photo.

Eiretrains · 15-06-2013 12:11am

DD9090 wrote: »

Nicked from Facebook.

Kilbarrack/Howth Junction 1981

That photo is by Barry Pickup, it is indeed a PWD ballast train heading onto the Howth branch, operating in conjunction with the track upgrading for the DART.

The talk of a goods train to Howth is interesting. In fact until the late 1960s, both Sutton and Howth were served sporadically by a trip goods working, sometimes hauled by an E Class locomotive.
Paint was dispatched from the paint works housed in the former GNR power station, while the Parsons Siding in Howth received some wagons (they also manufactured freight stock such as those ballast hoppers).

Captain Chaos · 15-06-2013 12:01pm

Fairview depot looking towards Connolly station in the pre DART days. Home then to C201 class and 6100 pushpull sets.

Victor · 15-06-2013 1:36pm

Ah, I thought Fairview was built specifically for the DART.

Captain Chaos · 15-06-2013 1:41pm

Victor wrote: »

Ah, I thought Fairview was built specifically for the DART.

Same here. That building in the picture is still part of it today, they added the new extension to the north end of it where the locos are with a higher roof profile for the lifting jacks.

Losty Dublin · 15-06-2013 1:46pm

Victor wrote: »

Ah, I thought Fairview was built specifically for the DART.

The GNR built their railcar depot there in 1951 on reclaimed landfill. CIE made it the suburban depot in the late 60's and it became the logical depot for the DART and was expanded and refitted in 1981.

Captain Chaos · 16-06-2013 1:53am

Just looking at the old pics of Howth Junction and comparing it to now, when the points where replaced did they re-align the branch tracks. Today the branch has a long sweep onto the main line compared to the curve around the old signal box that no longer exists.

steamengine · 16-06-2013 4:10pm

Was the signal cabin just to the right of the house and in front of the buffers ? There seems to be enough space for it there !

Captain Chaos · 16-06-2013 5:26pm

Yeah, the signal cabin would be to the right of the buffers and just behind it.

Don't know why they built that runoff siding as part of DASH 1. The DARTs have APT and CAWS fitted. APT restricts the speed a DART can even approach a red signal and automatically applies the brake if it SPADs. It would still be well clear of the mainline in a worse case event even without the runoff. It's a real belt and braces setup.

flyingsnail · 16-06-2013 5:41pm

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Yeah, the signal cabin would be to the right of the buffers and just behind it.

Don't know why they built that runoff siding as part of DASH 1. The DARTs have APT and CAWS fitted. APT restricts the speed a DART can even approach a red signal and automatically applies the brake if it SPADs. It would still be well clear of the mainline in a worse case event even without the runoff. It's a real belt and braces setup.

The run off means that you can simultaneously signal a train into that platform while signalling a through train on the up main line. Without it you may not have enough safety overlap on the signal to prevent a train fouling the main line. Regardless of APT on the DART not every train that approaches that signal would have ATP fitted.

Captain Chaos · 16-06-2013 5:51pm

What I mean is, the runoff is protecting the main line from the branch. Only DARTs all of which have APT use the branch making that runoff feature redundant. APT will restricts the DART to 10-15mph within about 200 metres or more of a red signal so it will crawl right up it. Say the driver fails to pay attention and tries to then move off when checking the train under a red signal the APT will have the train stopped before it's even over the points for the runoff never mind near fouling the main line. All that is for coming off platform 1.

flyingsnail · 16-06-2013 6:04pm

Captain Chaos wrote: »

What I mean is, the runoff is protecting the main line from the branch. Only DARTs all of which have APT use the branch making that runoff feature redundant. APT will restricts the DART to 10-15mph within about 200 metres or more of a red signal so it will crawl right up it. Say the driver fails to pay attention and tries to then move off when checking the train under a red signal the APT will have the train stopped before it's even over the points for the runoff never mind near fouling the main line. All that is for coming off platform 1.

While DARTs are the only scheduled service train over the branch they are not the only trains to operate over the branch. Per way and specials also operate over the branch and they would have no APT.

Victor · 16-06-2013 7:59pm

Does the Howth layout as built mean that both trains can make an approach at service speed instead of a crawl? ATP may be added to other trains.

Losty Dublin wrote: »

The GNR built their railcar depot there in 1951 on reclaimed landfill. CIE made it the suburban depot in the late 60's and it became the logical depot for the DART and was expanded and refitted in 1981.

Someone better tell Mr. Johnson.

flyingsnail · 17-06-2013 9:26am

Victor wrote: »

Does the Howth layout as built mean that both trains can make an approach at service speed instead of a crawl?

No, one of the trains is still going to be approaching a red signal.

The_Wanderer · 17-06-2013 11:45pm

flyingsnail wrote: »

No, one of the trains is still going to be approaching a red signal.

Before the run off siding was provided at Howth Jct. any train coming off the Howth Branch had to have a proceed aspect at the signal on the Up Howth Branch Platform.

If the signal was at red (protecting a movement on the Up Belfast) then the signal before it at Bayside Station was also held at Red. This was due to lack of a suitable overlap at Howth Jct.

CaptainSkidmark · 18-06-2013 9:31pm

Way too much talking and not enough photos here! should be a separate thread like the aviation forum

Captain Chaos · 18-06-2013 10:18pm

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

Way too much talking and not enough photos here! should be a separate thread like the aviation forum

It's supposed to be photos only but we go very side tracked. Really needed a new thread for it.

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