How to achieve secular schools/educational equality

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I think you will find that a major problem that non religious/other religion parents have with religious schools is that religion 'infiltrates the school day'.

It might be; what i said there was no Constitutional reference to 'infiltration'.

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Therefore it is near impossible to exercise our constitutional right to remove our children from religion. They can sit out the part where they do the 'Grow in Love' workbook, but religious indoctrination is not necessarily, and in some cases (Little Kiwis school included) not at all, confined to those sessions. I was told by one of my sons teachers that religion 'infiltrates' the curriculum when I enquired about our options.

But we don't have a Constitutional right to remove our children from religion? You quoted the provision yourself; ‘ Legislation providing State aid shall not discriminate between schools under the management of different religious denomination, nor be such as to affect prejudicially the right of any child to attend a school receiving public money without attending religious instruction at that school.’. The Supreme Court has already found that the Constitution does not protect a child from being influenced, to some degree, by the religious ethos of the school, as well as that a religious denomination is not obliged to change the general atmosphere of its school merely to accommodate a child of a different religious persuasion who wishes to attend that school. Which in short means a childs right not to attend religious instruction does not extend to a right not to be influenced (or even have their curriculum 'infiltrated') by religion.

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Edit; Actually now I think about it 'infiltrate' was not the exact word that the teacher used on that occasion, it was 'permeate'. Religion permeates the school day. Infiltrate however is a synonym for permeate, since we seem to be focusing the discussion on the usage of words.

There's no protection from permeation in the Constitution either, though I'd suggest 'permeate' does not carry the connotation of stealth that goes with 'infiltrate'. Perhaps she used the word 'vivify'? The Rules for Schools require that a religious spirit should inform and vivify the whole work of the school, so it might have been that...

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

As for indoctrination, I did not at any stage suggest that the constitution uses the word, so I'm not sure what you are getting at here. My use of the word in the post you quoted was entirely in the correct context:
indoctrinate
: to teach (someone) to fully accept the ideas, opinions, and beliefs of a particular group and to not consider other ideas, opinions, and beliefs

You said "so I could realise my constitutional right to remove my child from religious indoctrination with relative ease." There is neither a reference to indoctrination in the Constitution, nor does it offer you a right to remove your child from religious indoctrination (or teaching to fully accept the ideas, opinions, and beliefs of a particular group and to not consider other ideas, opinions, and beliefs). It only offers the right of a child to attend a school receiving public money without attending religious instruction at that school.