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N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Reuben1210


    Dr_Bill wrote: »
    Hard to argue with you but we shouldn't forget previously we didn't have a motorway network it was needed, now with network in place and yes it is Dublin centric it now needs to be expanded to include the inter connecting links to the other cities our rail infrastructure needs a serious look at and investment next. It shouldn't be quicker to travel from Galway or Cork to Dublin by car, rail travel should be a viable alternative but there is no incentive there at the moment.

    100%, and a massive part of increasing the efficiency and frequency of these inter-urban links (again, Dublin-centric) is the much needed but shelved DU project. After that, electrification to really speed those lines up.

    Don't want to be too negative, so I'm going to say that maybe all this will happen faster than we think. After all, the motorways went from no network to inter-urban network centered on Dublin in 10 years , albeit with unprecedented economic growth to pay for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    It was faster to travel by bus from Waterford to Wexford than by train before this bypass is built. Afterwards it'll be a doddle. No electrification or what have you will speed up crap train services.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Mod: can we keep this to N25, please - and if possible the bit that will bypass New Ross.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Any sign of work starting on this?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Any sign of work starting on this?

    Nothing very visible from the "old" roads - drove back from Waterford via N25/N30/N11 just last week and bar some sort of compound (?) near the N80/N11 roundabout - which may be related to the M11 project - I saw nothing.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Right but at least officially this has started, right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Reuben1210


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Right but at least officially this has started, right?

    Officially, yes!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Article on WorldHighways about this project.


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Article on WorldHighways about this project.

    Article says that "Mott MacDonald has been involved in the project since the original feasibility study in 1999"

    Are they also responsible for the final detailed design, especially of the Barrow bridge? Or is it done by BAM and Dragados by their in-house teams?

    If Mott is involved in the scheme for so long they might have useful knowledge which could speed up the design process.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    Geogregor wrote: »
    Article says that "Mott MacDonald has been involved in the project since the original feasibility study in 1999"

    Are they also responsible for the final detailed design, especially of the Barrow bridge? Or is it done by BAM and Dragados by their in-house teams?

    If Mott is involved in the scheme for so long they might have useful knowledge which could speed up the design process.

    I note the reference to
    The €700 million project will reconstruct and expand the A9 motorway between the junctions of Holendrecht and Diemen.

    No big deal in Holland! :rolleyes:


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    No big deal in Holland! :rolleyes:

    What's the point you're making? We dropped a billion on the M50 upgrade.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    spacetweek wrote: »
    What's the point you're making? We dropped a billion on the M50 upgrade.

    That was before the crash; I'm talking about today - not 10 years ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Moyarney


    Today I saw tractors tilling a field this morning in Lacken near Kehoe's. Later on in the afternoon I saw work being done on the electricity and phone lines in the same field.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Bards


    http://www.mytenders.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=MAR434311

    Provision of film and video services for the production of a short film documentary on the N25 New Ross Bypass.

    Detailed description : Wexford County Council wishes to appoint a suitably
    qualified multimedia filmmaker to produce a short video documentary, including
    time-lapse photography footage, on the construction of the N25 New Ross Bypass
    project. The aim is to document through film the construction and management of
    the project. Given its national significance as Ireland’s longest bridge, and its
    dominance as a landmark structure on the project, particular attention will be paid
    to the construction of the River Barrow Bridge, including the production of a short
    time-lapse photography film to provide a continuous visual record of its
    construction. The documentary will perform the role of an audio-visual narrative of
    the project for presentation to a wide and diverse audience, including the local
    community, schools and colleges, other project stakeholders, interested
    professionals and the media. The proposed film will also be utilised as an archival
    record of the project.
    Size of the contract: All services necessary or desirable for purposeful delivery of
    a short film documentary on the construction of the N25 New Ross Bypass. This
    includes all planning, preparation, management, filming, editing, production and
    post-production services and includes specific services such as high definition
    filming, time-lapse photography, drone aerial photography and video, conducting
    and recording interviews, composition and recording of film narrative and musical
    scores, sound mixing, editing and production. It is anticipated that the main
    construction works on the project will take approximately 33 months to complete,
    and it is anticipated that the main construction works will commence in April 2016.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Sounds like a good idea.


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    Bards wrote: »
    http://www.mytenders.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=MAR434311

    Provision of film and video services for the production of a short film documentary on the N25 New Ross Bypass.


    Sounds like dream job for someone from this forum :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Jambo


    Maybe of interest - I just seen this on Facebook


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


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    IMG_0656%20-%20Copy_zpsb2jrfcmd.jpg

    This is it - anyone know what its for ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Jambo


    IMG_0654%20-%20Copy_zpsd0nwuhrw.jpg

    IMG_0656%20-%20Copy_zpsb2jrfcmd.jpg

    This is it - anyone know what its for ?

    "Jakup and Fastnet Sound Mobilising for a New Project working on the N25 New Ross By Pass Bridge Site Investigation." according to here


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    The Jakup is the barge and the Fastnet Sound must be the tug.

    At least its good to see site investigation starting .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,637 ✭✭✭✭josip


    The site investigation will be fun.
    I wonder if the Celtic Linen van is still down there?
    I assume it was removed at the time because of the shipping channel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    What do they mean by "site investigation"? I guess geological survey had to be done before deciding about the type of bridge anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭Dr_Bill


    Geogregor wrote: »
    What do they mean by "site investigation"? I guess geological survey had to be done before deciding about the type of bridge anyway.
    Site Investigation is carried out prior to tender to form the basis on an initial design as to what the ground conditions are like.

    It helps in answering questions like:

    What type of material is there?
    Is it hard or soft rock? Is it solid or crumbling?
    Is the material loose or compacted?

    Once the project is awarded a designer may typically want more information for the detailed design of the foundations of a structure and hence further site investigation might be requested.

    Imagine it this way, if you were standing on one leg (your foundation/footprint) on a sand dune your likely to fall over. Using both your legs you have doubled the size of your footprint so your not as likely to fall over, you have learned that the sand is not very good for keeping your balance.

    Standing on one leg for instance on solid ground like concrete is relatively easy compared to sand so a smaller foundation will suffice that's kinda the information site investigation aims to achieve.


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    Dr_Bill wrote: »
    Site Investigation is carried out prior to tender to form the basis on an initial design as to what the ground conditions are like.

    It helps in answering questions like:

    What type of material is there?
    Is it hard or soft rock? Is it solid or crumbling?
    Is the material loose or compacted?

    Once the project is awarded a designer may typically want more information for the detailed design of the foundations of a structure and hence further site investigation might be requested.

    Imagine it this way, if you were standing on one leg (your foundation/footprint) on a sand dune your likely to fall over. Using both your legs you have doubled the size of your footprint so your not as likely to fall over, you have learned that the sand is not very good for keeping your balance.

    Standing on one leg for instance on solid ground like concrete is relatively easy compared to sand so a smaller foundation will suffice that's kinda the information site investigation aims to achieve.
    Well, I kind of know what a site investigation is.
    I just though that most of it was done before the tendering process and awarding of the contract because, as you mention yourself, the site ground condition has a huge influence on the initial design.

    Imagine they proposed this fancy extra-dosed bridge, then contractor does the site investigation and finds out there are very soft sands making location of the bridge foundations impossible or very expensive.

    We had problems with ground surveys in Poland (for example on the A4 motorway in the east). Some contractors got into huge problems (and delays) because of that.

    I'm hoping that this rig is more for preparatory works (like clearing underwater debris etc) rather than just for the site investigation in the geological sense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


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    Heres the rig right in the middle of where the new bridge is going to be built


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


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    Still there last Saturday


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    South Kilkenny's Pink Rock Road will be closed for a full year to through traffic, as work gets under way on the New Ross bypass.
    Contingency measures will be put in place to facilitate local access.
    At the May meeting of Piltown Municipal District, acting director of services Simon Walton reminded the members that it is a Public Private Partnership (PPP) contract, which had been awarded to a consortium back in January.
    “Since it was awarded, they are at the mobilisation stage," he said.
    “The main site compound and offices are being prepared.”
    Ecological surveys for the route will be taking place, while the contractor has to develop environmental and quality management plans. Consultation has been ongoing over the last number of weeks with a number of different bodies, including the relevant local authorities, Irish Rail, Inland Fisheries, and An Garda Sicochana.
    Surveys of the road network are to be carried out, while other surveys are also being under taken with a view to monitor how water quality and nearby properties may be affected.
    Substantial site clearance and a boundary fence will be proceeding this year.
    In regard to the Piltown Municipal District, a 'substantial portion' of the Pink Rock Road will have to be closed for a period of around one year.
    This closure has previously been advertised, and no submissions were received on it.
    It is expected the closure will last from early June of this year to June 6, 2017.
    There will be some local access. This is being done to facilitate works at the Barrow Bridge.
    "We will talk to the organisers of the Pink Rock 10k, to facilitate them where possible. The dialogue will continue,” said Mr Walton.
    He added that the estimated completion date for the scheme is January of 2019.

    http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/home/208213/New-Ross-bypass--Pink-Rock.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Bards


    Just came across the following You Tube (fly through to N25 New Ross Bypass) - might be of interest

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c270csRDyQc


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,667 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Bards wrote: »
    Just came across the following You Tube (fly through to N25 New Ross Bypass) - might be of interest

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c270csRDyQc

    Is it me or do some of those look like grade separated junctions?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Is it me or do some of those look like grade separated junctions?
    I think most of them will be, yea.


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