Blogger meets his Troll

Zab · 27-09-2012 7:10pm

pickarooney wrote: »

It reckons I'm 83km from where I actually am.

Okay, let's say a site like http://html5demos.com/geo

If you aren't using wifi and don't have GPS on whatever device that you're using then it's just going to try and locate you by IP, which as discussed isn't in the slightest bit accurate.

If you do use wifi and you do manage to get a result from the wifi geolocator then you're going to be very surprised at how accurate it is considering it doesn't use GPS.

TrulyCrazyLady · 27-09-2012 7:19pm

More on the amazing Mr. Traynor:

https://www.google.ca/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=%40daragall+I+worked+for+all+3+major+UK+parties+%26+both+in+US.+I%27ve+a+DPhil+in&oq=%40daragall+I+worked+for+all+3+major+UK+parties+%26+both+in+US.+I%27ve+a+DPhil+in&gs_l=hp.12...4099483.4099483.1.4102183.1.1.0.0.0.0.607.607.5-1.1.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.2.VTEyBCmIzIc&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=7cc2b3b047f5614&biw=1243&bih=572

Says he's worked for all 3 major UK parties & both in US.

Fellow sure is busy.

TrulyCrazyLady · 27-09-2012 7:33pm

splendid101 wrote: »

Café Express off Kigali St. in little Ethiopia.

What's the wifi like there?

TrulyCrazyLady · 27-09-2012 7:35pm

Zab wrote: »

I think it's a little weak. You could argue that anybody educated should be able to spot it, yet it's clear that many (or even most) wouldn't be able to. Anyway, if you really believe he doesn't exist then ring his listed collages and get them to confirm his degrees.

Can one actually do this? I live in North America. Usually you have to provide a written request.

My name is URL · 27-09-2012 7:35pm

TrulyCrazyLady wrote: »

More on the amazing Mr. Traynor:

https://www.google.ca/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=%40daragall+I+worked+for+all+3+major+UK+parties+%26+both+in+US.+I%27ve+a+DPhil+in&oq=%40daragall+I+worked+for+all+3+major+UK+parties+%26+both+in+US.+I%27ve+a+DPhil+in&gs_l=hp.12...4099483.4099483.1.4102183.1.1.0.0.0.0.607.607.5-1.1.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.2.VTEyBCmIzIc&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=7cc2b3b047f5614&biw=1243&bih=572

Says he's worked for all 3 major UK parties & both in US.

Fellow sure is busy.

For such a sought after and busy freelancer it's a wonder he has no Linkedin account

PC CDROM · 27-09-2012 7:44pm

This reminded me of something.. anyone seen 6th about these days?

TrulyCrazyLady · 27-09-2012 7:51pm

My name is URL wrote: »

For such a sought after and busy freelancer it's a wonder he has no Linkedin account

Yes, I only gave a few examples. NOTHING about Leo Traynor makes sense.

Linoge · 27-09-2012 8:17pm

My name is URL wrote: »

For such a sought after and busy freelancer it's a wonder he has no Linkedin account

Absolutely. And such an avid internet user -Twitter, FB, blog, entire web page and leaves out probably one of the most important networking tools available to him. As a "journalist", I would have thought that keeping in contact with other professionals is 50% of the job?!

Its also cringe worthy how he signs his name -Dr Leo Traynor, PHD, MSC, DPHIL, VHI, KNOB . I mean he didn't just publish a research paper in Nature, he was suggesting the name for a bridge!

nlgbbbblth · 27-09-2012 11:08pm

My name is URL wrote: »

For such a sought after and busy freelancer it's a wonder he has no Linkedin account

Linoge wrote: »

Absolutely. And such an avid internet user -Twitter, FB, blog, entire web page and leaves out probably one of the most important networking tools available to him.

He's a hipster. Hipsters generally avoid Linkedin. "Too corporate and full of boring office drones. Man."

TrulyCrazyLady · 27-09-2012 11:25pm

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

He's a hipster. Hipsters generally avoid Linkedin. "Too corporate and full of boring office drones. Man."

In his fable he describes himself as a middle aged man with a limp and a wheeze. hardly a hipster.

Those glasses though are indeed hipsteresque.

Thargor · 28-09-2012 8:49pm

I see this rising in the Technology Reddit aswell, I assume since theres no comments on the article on his blog that he's deleting anyone who calls bullsh1t on it?

Zab · 28-09-2012 8:55pm

There's a blog he's pointing at: http://evertb.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/tracking-a-troll/

The guy was originally saying that you could just trace purely by IP most of the time, but he's changed his tune and edited his post without mentioning it. The general gist of what he's currently saying is you get a general location by the IP and then separately you search for pages mentioning the IP which may give you direct clues as to the identity of the person.

My name is URL · 28-09-2012 9:20pm

Linoge wrote: »

Its also cringe worthy how he signs his name -Dr Leo Traynor, PHD, MSC, DPHIL, VHI, KNOB . I mean he didn't just publish a research paper in Nature, he was suggesting the name for a bridge!

lol, yeah. He could have at least noted the reasons why he felt it was a good idea. Why did he want that specific bridge to be named after Wilson? He was basically just giving his opinion on what would be a good name for a bridge some day.

At least he's putting his credentials to use I suppose.

say_who_now? · 28-09-2012 10:34pm

My name is URL wrote: »

lol, yeah. He could have at least noted the reasons why he felt it was a good idea. Why did he want that specific bridge to be named after Wilson? He was basically just giving his opinion on what would be a good name for a bridge some day.

At least he's putting his credentials to use I suppose.

I wasn't actually sure did the VHI, KNOB stand for some sort of academic qualification I wasn't aware of, lol, but then I googled and found the same letter to the Irish Times with his name and address given underneath! :eek:

Honestly, for such a "savvy" user of social media, a journalist, such an intellectual and all- that is one almighty missive!

Maybe that's how he got the trolls adress- had him write a letter to the Irish Times and had the postman keep an eye out for it! :pac:

ViveLaVie · 29-09-2012 1:30am

Linoge wrote: »

Its also cringe worthy how he signs his name -Dr Leo Traynor, PHD, MSC, DPHIL, VHI, KNOB . I mean he didn't just publish a research paper in Nature, he was suggesting the name for a bridge!

A DPhil and a Phd?? So he has two doctorates now??

Robbo · 29-09-2012 1:38am

Zab wrote: »

There's a blog he's pointing at: http://evertb.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/tracking-a-troll/

The guy was originally saying that you could just trace purely by IP most of the time, but he's changed his tune and edited his post without mentioning it. The general gist of what he's currently saying is you get a general location by the IP and then separately you search for pages mentioning the IP which may give you direct clues as to the identity of the person.

Well the thing is by being associated with a quality brand like Evert Bopp, he has nothing to worry about. Evert is the kind of chap with a rock solid background in....oh **** (google search results expurgated).

fasttalkerchat · 29-09-2012 1:38am

say_who_now? wrote: »

I wasn't actually sure did the VHI, KNOB stand for some sort of academic qualification I wasn't aware of, lol, but then I googled and found the same letter to the Irish Times with his name and address given underneath! :eek:

Oh... I thought he was a VHI member and a knob...

say_who_now? · 29-09-2012 1:45am

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Oh... I thought he was a VHI member and a knob...

Well I don't know about VHI, but he certainly is a

Knowingly Nonsensical Obstreperous B*llix! :pac:

say_who_now? · 29-09-2012 1:47am

ViveLaVie wrote: »

A DPhil and a Phd?? So he has two doctorates now??

And that surprises you ViveLaVie?

Nothing he could come out with would surprise me at this point! :rolleyes:

say_who_now? · 29-09-2012 2:06am

Robbo wrote: »

Well the thing is by being associated with a quality brand like Evert Bopp, he has nothing to worry about. Evert is the kind of chap with a rock solid background in....oh **** (google search results expurgated).

Let me help you with that Robbo-

Everett Bopp Self Promotion.

What Everett REALLY got up to in Haiti. (Link to article on the bottom of the page!

What the Press Ombudsman had to say about what Everett really got up to in Haiti.

At least he's not the IT genius Leo refers to in his blog, because this guy clearly couldn't find his way out the front door, let alone "track a troll"! :pac:

Zab · 29-09-2012 2:18am

say_who_now? wrote: »

What Everett REALLY got up to in Haiti. (Link to article on the bottom of the page!

Yeah, I was just reading that article. Amusing.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7344/haiticonnect.png

TrulyCrazyLady · 29-09-2012 5:26am

More on the Secret Life of Leo Traynor.

It seems he also claims to have been an A&E Nurse.

Is there anything this guy can't do?

http://topsy.com/s?q=%40leotraynor+being+Pro+Choice+is+a+no+brainer

TrulyCrazyLady · 29-09-2012 5:44am

Also, Dr. Leo Traynor wasn't alway so forgiving and kind. Here are some interesting quotes:

"I see the Lockerbie bomber Megrahi's finally dead. Good. A great pity the scumbag didn't die in jail. I hope the animal suffered."
http://topsy.com/s?q=%40leotraynor+lockerbie

If you're angry about the church or banks or politicians - don't calm down. Calmness is overrated. Stay angry & push for change
http://topsy.com/s?q=%40leotraynor+calmness

Jesus H Christ. This Tuffy person is a frigging skidmark on the underpants of politics #vinb
http://topsy.com/s?q=%40leotraynor+tuffy

Talking ****e
http://topsy.com/s?q=%40leotraynor+****e

And interestingly enough:

"You can't make up anything anymore. The world itself is a satire. All you can do is record it." ~ Arthur Buchwald
http://topsy.com/s?q=%40leotraynor+buchwald

My bet, Leo Traynor is the alter ego of a fiction writer doing character research or a journalist who's gone over the edge.

Aidric · 29-09-2012 9:36am

When I read this story for the first time it just didn't sit right. Subsequent reads haven't altered my opinion. It reads like something from a failed creative writing student.

Psychedelic · 29-09-2012 3:16pm

Good blog post here: http://www.resistradio.com/news/questioning-the-trollocaust-did-leotraynor-really-suffer-vile-hate-campaign

Linoge · 29-09-2012 9:03pm

Now he should bring the gardai to task for ignoring a death threat against him. He's got the publicity - how about preventing the same situation happening to someone else by shaming the gards? Maybe even result in disciplinary action for the gards involved. Fck, he could get a good few more blog stories out of it too!

That is unless there was never any gards involved to begin with......

Thargor · 29-09-2012 9:21pm

If its not bullcrap, isnt he basically naming the kid to everyone in the local community? How many parents of 15-16 year olds could he know?

Green Diesel · 30-09-2012 12:20pm

Obvious troll is obvious

dr.bollocko · 30-09-2012 12:24pm

MOD:

Troll banned. His nonsensical rantings have also been deleted.

Lets move on from that now please.

Zaph · 30-09-2012 12:55pm

dr.bollocko wrote: »

MOD:

Troll banned. His nonsensical rantings have also been deleted.

Lets move on from that now please.

I've just permabanned him, if he re-appears please let me know.

stmol32 · 01-10-2012 2:03am

Zaph wrote: »

I've just permabanned him, if he re-appears please let me know.

Why don't you just give us his IP address and we can all go round to his house and forgive him.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 01-10-2012 2:05am

dr.bollocko wrote: »

MOD:

Troll banned. His nonsensical rantings have also been deleted.

Lets move on from that now please.

Zaph wrote: »

I've just permabanned him, if he re-appears please let me know.

Good work, guys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiVrPsY8xIs

areyawell · 01-10-2012 2:20am

Seriously this article is complete and utter bull and its actually the person who wrote the article is trolling. I come from an IT background. No one can trace an IP address from a twitter comment unless they work for twitter and even then only a small minority who work for twitter have access to that information. If he was receiving racist and threatening remarks on twitter the guards are able to file a report and pass it on to there computer forensic team who will fill out a report and contact twitter for the IP information. Twitter wont release the IP address directly to the person who received the abuse, only to the gaurds who can than proceed to track down that person. If the IP address is located outside the country there generally will be no prosecution against the person, maybe if the person was in the UK . The person who wrote the blog is just a complete and utter troll. Guards are so uneducated in this country that if something like this happened to you, better off contacting there main headquarters and speak with one of there IT/Forensic team

Zab · 01-10-2012 2:28am

areyawell wrote: »

Seriously this article is complete and utter bull and its actually the person who wrote the article is trolling. I come from an IT background. No one can trace an IP address from a twitter comment unless they work for twitter and even then only a small minority who work for twitter have access to that information. If he was receiving racist and threatening remarks on twitter the guards are able to file a report and pass it on to there computer forensic team who will fill out a report and contact twitter for the IP information. Twitter wont release the IP address directly to the person who received the abuse, only to the gaurds who can than proceed to track down that person. If the IP address is located outside the country there generally will be no prosecution against the person, maybe if the person was in the UK . The person who wrote the blog is just a complete and utter troll. Guards are so uneducated in this country that if something like this happened to you, better off contacting there main headquarters and speak with one of there IT/Forensic team

You have a lot of what Leo has said wrong. The IP did not come from twitter. The troll was lured to a private blog and his IP address was logged when he posted. How he went from IP to troll is less clear, reasons given by Leo and others include IP geolocation, research on what the IP has been logged doing at various sites on the internet and directly analysing what Leo's computer knew about his friends' IPs. Leo has not made any satisfactory statement on the issue.

Seaneh · 01-10-2012 2:31am

aka leo is talking through his arse.

Pdfile · 01-10-2012 2:33am

FatherLen wrote: »

normally i would be one of the tl:dr, but this is worth the read.
that man is a lot more forgiving than i would be.

given the gravity of the situation your true colours would shine, that guy is made of better stuff then me..

stmol32 · 01-10-2012 8:40am

Pdfile wrote: »

given the gravity of the situation your true colours would shine, that guy is made of better stuff then me..

FatherLen wrote: »

normally i would be one of the tl:dr, but this is worth the read.
that man is a lot more forgiving than i would be.

The two of ye should give yourselves more credit.

This person made up a story to cynically manipulate a hysterical media thus cheapening and taking focus from genuine cases of online harassment.

Surely you are better than this horrible creature?

My name is URL · 01-10-2012 6:36pm

Feck sake.. you can't escape this crap!

It's the top main story on the daily Slashdot newsletter this evening

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/09/30/0420214/the-day-leo-traynor-confronted-his-troll

Thargor · 01-10-2012 6:44pm

You'd expect the Slashdot crowd to tear that apart but they're fairly accepting of it.

TrulyCrazyLady · 01-10-2012 9:14pm

Oh Good Lord, he's now pulled the post where he claimed to have a DPhil. It's still in the Google cache and I have a screenshot, but this is surreal:

http://www.traynorseye.com/2012/08/men-of-letters.html

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:D5ij2dtv1hIJ:www.traynorseye.com/2012/08/men-of-letters.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

TrulyCrazyLady · 01-10-2012 9:15pm

Oh Good Lord, he's now pulled the post where he claimed to have a DPhil. It's still in the Google cache and I have a screenshot, but this is surreal:

http://www.traynorseye.com/2012/08/men-of-letters.html

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:D5ij2dtv1hIJ:www.traynorseye.com/2012/08/men-of-letters.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

areyawell · 01-10-2012 9:45pm

That Leo guy is some troll, unbelievable! just a guy looking for attention and maybe revenue on his blog

humbert · 01-10-2012 9:55pm

It would be brilliant if the blog was written by some 17 year old. That'd be some good trolling.

TrulyCrazyLady · 01-10-2012 10:05pm

areyawell wrote: »

That Leo guy is some troll, unbelievable! just a guy looking for attention and maybe revenue on his blog

Actually I think whoever is writing this is doing it to make a point.

Only problem -- I can't figure out what point other than that most Internet hand wringers will believe anything that suits them.

areyawell · 01-10-2012 10:07pm

That Leo guy is some troll, unbelievable! just a guy looking for attention and maybe revenue on his blog

TrulyCrazyLady · 02-10-2012 2:32pm

Ok folks, an update. CHeck this out. I think someone has taken Leo's name here to denounce him for an earlier IP tracing scandal in Dublin http://pages.citebite.com/u5y7f4q6ksxu

Thargor · 02-10-2012 2:47pm

TrulyCrazyLady wrote: »

Ok folks, an update. CHeck this out. I think someone has taken Leo's name here to denounce him for an earlier IP tracing scandal in Dublin http://pages.citebite.com/u5y7f4q6ksxu

I originally thought this thread was going to be a repost of that story when I was opening it to read the other day, and to be honest when you look at the timing I think the simplest explanation is that Leo read that story and it planted a seed in his mind about an idea for a blogpost, maybe it got a bit out of hand and he wasnt expecting it to be quite so popular.

Theres just no way the Gardai ignored a box of ashes being sent to a Jewish guys house, they just wouldnt do it, out of fear for their careers if nothing else.

TrulyCrazyLady · 02-10-2012 2:56pm

Thargor wrote: »

I originally thought this thread was going to be a repost of that story when I was opening it to read the other day, and to be honest when you look at the timing I think the simplest explanation is that Leo read that story and it planted a seed in his mind about an idea for a blogpost, maybe it got a bit out of hand and he wasnt expecting it to be quite so popular.

Yes, I think that's one explanation, that he took his inspiration from the earlier IP scandal.

Here are two other ones that are totally out there:

1) This is a revenge parable, Leo Traynor is getting revenge on Chris Andrews by creating a story in which Andrews is a super troll and putting it out there on Yom Kippur

2) Someone is pranking Leo Traynor and stole his identity to do this

P.S. It is looking like Leo Traynor exists. I'm guessing the fact he has no internet presence other than social media is due to the fact he's a giant layabout.

The commenter who uses the Leo Traynor names says Leo also claimed to be in the IDF.

Whew!

Zab · 02-10-2012 3:16pm

Thargor wrote: »

I think the simplest explanation is that Leo read that story and it planted a seed in his mind about an idea for a blogpost, maybe it got a bit out of hand and he wasnt expecting it to be quite so popular.

Possibly, I'm slightly confused though. This is the comment on broadsheet:

Leo Traynor wrote:

Very interesting that the person who did it then shut down their Twitter account on Saturday night citing Anti-Semitic abuse. He was immediately identified. What is even more interesting is that this Walter Mitty character (IDF, journalist, PhDer, spin doctor, writer) who lives in Rathmines, around the corner from said Internet cafe, in fact had a Fianna Fail TD lobby on his behalf to get social welfare. He doesn’t work, citing ME or some such illness, yet spends his time between the Canaries, his flat in London, and his large gaff in Rathmines. You’ve been busted, son.

Of course he’ll be back on Twitter. Cannot stay off it, his third time storming off. The odd hyphen slipped into user names, etc.

This comment by "Leo Traynor" appears to be describing the person that we know as "Leo Traynor". Furthermore, if that's the case, it appears to be saying that Leo Traynor is the one who tracked down Chris Andrews.

To be clear the above is just from the comment. Eddy Carroll wrote the dossier on Chris Andrews, but the other details don't match him (stormed off twitter etc.) https://twitter.com/eddycarroll

TrulyCrazyLady · 02-10-2012 3:46pm

Zab wrote: »

To be clear the above is just from the comment. Eddy Carroll wrote the dossier on Chris Andrews, but the other details don't match him (stormed off twitter etc.) https://twitter.com/eddycarroll

First story about Chris Andrews IP hacking doesn't jibe with second.

First claims sophisticated IP tracking op took months:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/sting-op-exposes-andrews-over-ff-twitter-rants-3197102.html

Second claims it took Eddy Carroll only a few hours:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/husband-unmasked-former-ff-td-chris-andrews-after-phantom-tweets-targeted-wife-3202402.html

Commenter using Leo Traynor name says Leo Traynor done it. Then, a few days later out comes a report putting it down to Eddy Carroll's tech genius.

Bizarre.

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