Wolfenstein: The New Order

wes · 21-05-2014 1:23pm

Spear wrote: »

Part of the need to manually pick up stuff is due to the health mechanic, and the user of over charging your health. Otherwise you couldn't control the timing of it.

Yeah, that make sense. I guess it must have been to much of a pain to have auto-pickup for weapons, but not health,

calex71 · 21-05-2014 1:26pm

Do any of the perks reduce the speed overcharged health discharges

Seem to discharge too quickly to be of use in most situations.

21-05-2014 3:36pm

Spear wrote: »

Part of the need to manually pick up stuff is due to the health mechanic, and the user of over charging your health. Otherwise you couldn't control the timing of it.

Health packs make me happy, love that old skool mechanic.
Please say there is no recharging health ala COD BS?

Picked my copy up in Smyths...come on 4.30pm...
Only problem is a the massive X1 patch

cloud493 · 21-05-2014 3:57pm

Its not regenerating health in the halo sense, but it recharges your health back to the nearest thing of 20, so if you have 31 health it'll put you back up to 40.

Spear · 21-05-2014 4:11pm

One other comment I have, is that so far I haven't felt cheated when I died. Anytime I did, it was because I did something stupid like wade out in front of 4 or 5 guys at once, and I deserved it. I haven't gotten arbitrarily killed by a stupid mechanic or inbalanced enemy yet.

martingriff · 21-05-2014 4:44pm

I have made it to the Asylum Chapter 2?. Died so many time in the first level and know I have missed loads of stuff.

I have just made it to the outside door of the asylum and keep getting killed by those flying turrets loosing ammo Am I meant to fling a grenade into the amoured car they come out of.

I am loving the game but must finish it before next week and Watch Dogs come out

super_furry · 21-05-2014 4:52pm

One of those I'll pick up in a few months for 20 quid or so.

calex71 · 21-05-2014 4:54pm

martingriff wrote: »

I have made it to the Asylum Chapter 2?. Died so many time in the first level and know I have missed loads of stuff.
I have just made it to the outside door of the asylum and keep getting killed by those flying turrets loosing ammo Am I meant to fling a grenade into the amoured car they come out of.

I am loving the game but must finish it before next week and Watch Dogs come out

I assume you are doing the same thing I was and staying on the porch using the pillars fro cover?

One the soldiers are dead make a break for the car on the far left , you should get the job done more easily from there.

CptMackey · 21-05-2014 6:05pm

Picked it up today on ps4. Only 4 more hours of a 14 hour shift before I'm home to start it.

Glad that I had heard nothing about it before release. Saw a trailer today and bought it. Always good to try a game for myself with no hype either good or bad to cloud it for me

Bandit 6 · 21-05-2014 7:43pm

Picked it up today, reminds me of the old pc game collecting the gold cups! Good game so far.

actuallylike · 21-05-2014 7:54pm

Was just playing it there. Noticed that my copy had EU after the title. I've then noticed that I haven't seen one swastika while playing it. Is this because it's outlawed in Germany? Pretty unfair on the rest of the continent. I liked the symbolism in the previous games..not that I condone that type of behaviour at all at all.

Bandit 6 · 21-05-2014 8:05pm

actuallylike wrote: »

Was just playing it there. Noticed that my copy had EU after the title. I've then noticed that I haven't seen one swastika while playing it. Is this because it's outlawed in Germany? Pretty unfair on the rest of the continent. I liked the symbolism in the previous games..not that I condone that type of behaviour at all at all.

Ive seen a few so far...

lertsnim · 21-05-2014 8:10pm

actuallylike wrote: »

Was just playing it there. Noticed that my copy had EU after the title. I've then noticed that I haven't seen one swastika while playing it. Is this because it's outlawed in Germany? Pretty unfair on the rest of the continent. I liked the symbolism in the previous games..not that I condone that type of behaviour at all at all.

Only Germany and Austria have the nazi free version

calex71 · 21-05-2014 8:29pm

I've even seen the Führer himself in the

Hidden wolf 3D level

Speaking of easter eggs, keep your eyes peeled on chp 7 for

vault 101

Edit: actuallylike where did you get your copy? If i recall they won't even be called Nazis if it is a censored copy , it will be the regime I think.

They have said the game is other wise the same , and changes are purely cosmetic.

balkieb2002 · 21-05-2014 9:21pm

Bought this yesterday and planned to set it download last night. Decided to check how download was progressing before I went to work this morning only to find out I had paused the download before I went to bed [to check out a watch_dogs video] and had never resumed it. Thank god I checked it this morning, hopefully it will now be completed by time I get home!

cloud493 · 21-05-2014 10:13pm

I'm specially liking how the game hasn't so far forced stealth onto me at any point. Its encouraged, but you don't have to, and theres no instant game overs if you get seen by a guard.

B.A._Baracus · 22-05-2014 12:07am

So whats peoples impressions of the game so far?

Really would like to play it myself. Had alot of fun with Wolfenstein on the original xbox and the last wolfenstein was good too (dispite not completing both... pssh need to go back)

calex71 · 22-05-2014 12:18am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

So whats peoples impressions of the game so far?

Really would like to play it myself. Had alot of fun with Wolfenstein on the original xbox and the last wolfenstein was good too (dispite not completing both... pssh need to go back)

Ticks all the boxes for a very decent single player experience, pacing , story , voice acting and gameplay are all solid.

22-05-2014 12:29am

calex71 wrote: »

Ticks all the boxes for a very decent single player experience, pacing , story , voice acting and gameplay are all solid.

I'm so pleasantly surprised at the all round quality and I have only played the first couple of hours....
There is loads of variation.
What I'm loving so far;

1: There are loads of secrets to find that make you think.

2: Ammo pickups, looting and health packs!!

3: Each area is indicated by a map which is initially greyed out until a transcript is found and there are multiple ways to approach a given situation (Stealth / or gun blazing or even a mixture of both).

4: I'm pacing myself to fully explore each area. It's been a while since an FPS with considerably structured focus still allowed for some level of exploration (Ala Bioshock 1 / 2).

5: I'm genuinely surprised at the quality of the story / voice acting so far.

Manach · 22-05-2014 1:16am

As it set in the 60s. any side missions to deal with hippies?

Duggy747 · 22-05-2014 3:32am

This game is fun, more than I thought it would be

Played about 2 hours but got a nice dose of variation, wasn't all just run n' gun. The Commanders who radio for backup are a good addition as it makes you think how to act; Silently or Rambo.........and with dual-wield you destroy the place, I love to take the turret with me and turn Nazis to mush. :pac:

I like that there's plenty of choices in terms of paths, makes it feel much less linear than other modern shooters and encourages, but not force you, to go explore.

I'm impressed so far and I'll echo that the voice acting and story so far is solid, game runs very well for me so not having any fps issues on high settings.

cloud493 · 22-05-2014 8:52am

Manach wrote: »

As it set in the 60s. any side missions to deal with hippies?

Alternate history, no hippies

Venom · 22-05-2014 11:34am

How much difference is there between the two timelines?

Duggy747 · 22-05-2014 12:54pm

One thing I like especially is how "easy" it is to take down a Nazi, they're not sponges for bullets.

hardweir · 22-05-2014 12:59pm

Really enjoyed this,great variety,graphics are good(xbox one) and voice acting etc are excellent.
I will say that it was very short and the difficulty even on uber seemed very easy.Played through it twice since tuesday,taking the stealthy option where available the first time through.
Did like their decision to use health packs instead of regenerating health although i would suggest playing on uber first time around.

22-05-2014 12:59pm

Duggy747 wrote: »

One thing I like especially is how "easy" it is to take down a Nazi, they're not sponges for bullets.

I'm on the hardest difficulty. Yes they don't take much but I have died a couple of times and all my own fault.

calex71 · 22-05-2014 1:07pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I'm on the hardest difficulty. Yes they don't take much but I have died a couple of times and all my own fault.

Yes the risk of a quick death is there and thats what I like about it, it's not cheap or the games fault when it happens, it takes away any frustration and gives you the drive to try again and not be so silly the next time or to think ahead and look for cover before moving.

22-05-2014 2:05pm

calex71 wrote: »

Yes the risk of a quick death is there and thats what I like about it, it's not cheap or the games fault when it happens, it takes away any frustration and gives you the drive to try again and not be so silly the next time or to think ahead and look for cover before moving.

This also complements the case that it forced me to look elsewhere to approach a given situation. I kept storming one particular room with an officer and died like 5 times. Only copped it at the 6th attempt that I could enter a vent and sneak around and stealth kill the officer thus eliminating the alarm situation.

CptMackey · 22-05-2014 2:19pm

Really enjoying this. Haven't enjoyed a game this much in ages.

Dialogue is great aswell.

calex71 · 22-05-2014 4:33pm

Throwing this out in case people miss them but with spoilers.

When you are at the base/safehouse always have a good look around, and always sleep especially during chapter 9!!!!!!

I noticed as I quit without saving that different cutscenes can trigger depending on your actions too like in chapter 5

when you have to find the file in Max's room if you go see the guy and ask about it you will see one , but if you bypass him and get the file you get another one entirely

CptMackey · 22-05-2014 9:14pm

calex71 wrote: »

Throwing this out in case people miss them but with spoilers.

When you are at the base/safehouse always have a good look around, and always sleep especially during chapter 9!!!!!!

I noticed as I quit without saving that different cutscenes can trigger depending on your actions too like in chapter 5
when you have to find the file in Max's room if you go see the guy and ask about it you will see one , but if you bypass him and get the file you get another one entirely

I enjoy sleeping in the safe house especially upstairs. Won't say much more as I can't do spoilers on the phone. Def the best game I have played in ages and for me the first must have on ps4

calex71 · 22-05-2014 10:21pm

CptMackey wrote: »

I enjoy sleeping in the safe house especially upstairs. Won't say much more as I can't do spoilers on the phone. Def the best game I have played in ages and for me the first must have on ps4

Ha yes the

Wolf 3D level

SLeeping in your designated bed in chapter 9 gives you a

rather strange cutscene with Tekla

sleeping in that bed in each chapter gives you a

permanent health boost pick up beside the bed on waking

22-05-2014 10:52pm

calex71 wrote: »

Ha yes the
Wolf 3D level

SLeeping in your designated bed in chapter 9 gives you a
rather strange cutscene with Tekla
sleeping in that bed in each chapter gives you a
permanent health boost pick up beside the bed on waking

I keep dying I can't pass it.

calex71 · 22-05-2014 11:12pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I keep dying I can't pass it.

Bet it was the bit where you open a door and there are like 3 or 4 Nazis right behind it

I know thats what got me.

There is no reward for passing it nor is there anything more than

that level that I saw when I beat it, when I hit the lift at the end I was expecting more

lertsnim · 22-05-2014 11:18pm

Cracking game.

BlitzKrieg · 23-05-2014 5:12am

alot has been said about the gameplay and story, but can I throw out a thumbs up for the soundtrack, there is some wonderfully atmospheric music in the game that are not your usual bombastic war parade, very sombre music at some points.

I'm thinking particularly the music on the Gibraltar bridge level

On last level at the moment, but i've been playing through on hard it did feel too easy up until they introduced the fire and rocket soldiers, these f*ckers are harder to kill then the damn super soldiers and the fire ones carry shotguns that if they close the distance on you they will kill you in one shot, there are some specific nasty chokepoints in the game where they show up and kill me over and over and over

straight after you return to London and you just smashed in through the window, one shows up here and cause you are already in a corner its a race to put him down (via shooting his explosive cannisters or just laying into him) before he closes the gap and skullf*cks you

Will prob finish it tomorrow, but I've played it solidly 3 nights in a row now and will do a fourth tomorrow, thats longer then it took for me to finish bioshock infinite (which I also played on hard first time through)

TheDoc · 23-05-2014 10:29am

Was on the fence with this one.

Probably beggers belief to get one for a good price in store in Ireland.

Might need to buy online and wait which is sucks considering all weekend plans for cancelled haha.

23-05-2014 10:42am

calex71 wrote: »

Bet it was the bit where you open a door and there are like 3 or 4 Nazis right behind it
I know thats what got me.

There is no reward for passing it nor is there anything more than
that level that I saw when I beat it, when I hit the lift at the end I was expecting more

Exactly the place where I keep dying. So it doesnt matter if you pass it??

I must have missed the permanent health boosts at least three times

23-05-2014 10:43am

TheDoc wrote: »

Was on the fence with this one.

Probably beggers belief to get one for a good price in store in Ireland.

Might need to buy online and wait which is sucks considering all weekend plans for cancelled haha.

Your in for a nice suprise if you pick this bad boy up.

calex71 · 23-05-2014 10:54am

Saw the side by sides on digital foundry early , can't post the link now but a google will see folks right.

Runs near identical on ps4 and one at 1080p and 60FPS, so makes me wonder what the ID engine has that they are the 1st to achieve this on a crossplatform title, I'm not to up on the tech ins and outs of these things.

Grayditch · 23-05-2014 10:56am

Right I think I need this game. I've waited too long.

One question, can you still bayonet someone in the face/throat for that blood gurrgley death?

23-05-2014 10:58am

calex71 wrote: »

Saw the side by sides on digital foundry early , can't post the link now but a google will see folks right.

Runs near identical on ps4 and one at 1080p and 60FPS, so makes me wonder what the ID engine has that they are the 1st to achieve this on a crossplatform title, I'm not to up on the tech ins and outs of these things.

You can see the simlarities from Rage with engine usage. In fairness iD tech 5 is highly optimized so understandable they could get 1080p / 60FPS.

Rage ran @ 60fps on the x360 a game that I really enjoyed + the DLC.

23-05-2014 11:00am

Grayditch wrote: »

Right I think I need this game. I've waited too long.

One question, can you still bayonet someone in the face/throat for that blood gurrgley death?

Havent used a bayonet but I'm only a few hours in. You can stab people and throw knives if that tickles your fancy which includes the blood gurrgly deaths.

Stealth / Knife melee aspects are very well implemented.

Grayditch · 23-05-2014 11:04am

Nice one.

My favourite part of the last game was storming the Nazi mansion and throat stabbing every single one that came up or down the stairs.

Of all the weapons and abilities that I ended up with in that game, a knife on the end of that awesome rifle was one of my favourite things to use.

gimli2112 · 23-05-2014 11:21am

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Havent used a bayonet but I'm only a few hours in. You can stab people and throw knives if that tickles your fancy which includes the blood gurrgly deaths.

Stealth / Knife melee aspects are very well implemented.

Just started yesterday. Was lining up my first knife throwing kill. Nazi doesn't see me, *giggle*. Threw the knife expecting it to fly ala MW2 style like an arrow.
Threw it like a girl, clanked around the target's ankles who proceeded to turn around and shoot at me. Need to get used to the mechanics. Dying to get out of work and have a real go at it.

23-05-2014 11:23am

gimli2112 wrote: »

Just started yesterday. Was lining up my first knife throwing kill. Nazi doesn't see me, *giggle*. Threw the knife expecting it to fly ala MW2 style like an arrow.
Threw it like a girl, clanked around the target's ankles who proceeded to turn around and shoot at me. Need to get used to the mechanics. Dying to get out of work and have a real go at it.

Yea, knife physics :pac:

I always aim above the head and the dirty Nazi gets it right in the noggin

calex71 · 23-05-2014 12:03pm

Am I imagining things or did I see enemies die by friendly fire a few times

Especially if they get between you and a shotgunner.

23-05-2014 12:04pm

calex71 wrote: »

Am I imagining things or did I see enemies die by friendly fire a few times

Especially if they get between you and a shotgunner.

You are correct. They attack each other if hit by friendly fire ala Doom

Edit* oh you mean your allies?? I thought you were referring to the enemies.

cloud493 · 23-05-2014 1:36pm

Normal nazi soldiers = fun to fight
Giant nazi robots = not fun to fight.

23-05-2014 1:44pm

cloud493 wrote: »

Normal nazi soldiers = fun to fight
Giant nazi robots = not fun to fight.

Plasma grenade followed my dual shotguns are your freinds

Robot pwnage

Wolfenstein: The New Order

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