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Would Katie Taylor beat an average man in a fight?

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    #182
    ScumLord
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    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    In the ring she would beat the average man. In a street fight with no rules it would be a different story. In a street fight there'd be kicking and grapling amongst other things. Katie like any boxer, is only trained to use her fists.
    That seems to be a big misconception about boxing in this thread, nobody seems to be giving any thought to the fact she has lightning fast footwork. They simply wouldn't be able to catch her.


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    #183
    God...
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    Kirby wrote: »
    Most men would have a size and weight advantage so just tackling her would probably end it.

    The overwhelming majority of men wouldn't have the experience to use there size and weight advantage to there advantage in the amount of time she'd have them out cold on there back from a bare knuckle punch.

    Anyway I'm of this thread, it's ridiculous.


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    #184
    Tym
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    Hmmm there seems to be a rather insidious sexism in this thread.


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    #185
    1ZRed
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    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    In the ring she would beat the average man. In a street fight with no rules it would be a different story. In a street fight there'd be kicking and grapling amongst other things. Katie like any boxer, is only trained to use her fists.

    I'd still love to see you take her on just to see the result. She's still got the light footwork, speed and power in her punches to do some serious damage.

    Anyway her having a huge amount of training would still give her a big advantage over an average guy even if it was a street fight. I think she could adapt fairly quickly to the situation.


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    #186
    Daveysil15
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    1ZRed wrote: »
    I'd still love to see you take her on just to see the result. She's still got the light footwork, speed and power in her punches to do some serious damage.

    Anyway her having a huge amount of training would still give her a big advantage over an average guy even if it was a street fight. I think she could adapt fairly quickly to the situation.

    I'm not saying i could beat her, I don't know. She does have great speed and is a powerful puncher, but there's a difference between a controlled fight in a boxing ring and a street fight with no rules. Boxing is only one element of fighting. What would happen if the fight went to ground, or if she fell victim to a choke hold? Boxing doesn't train you to deal with that. Anyway it would depend on the man involved. Two men could be the same height and weight, but one could be significantly tougher than the other.


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    #187
    Mint Sauce
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    Katie would bater any average untrained man with one hand tied behind her back, and has done already.

    Wasn't there that celebraty boxing a few years ago where they invloved her in some of the training, and then had to withdraw her when RTE released that their insurnace would not cover the celebraties from her.


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    #188
    Dave0301
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    Heh, is this thread really still trundling along?

    People saying, "Oh well in a no holds barred street fight she'd lose..."

    Eh no, no she wouldn't, think about it. An Olympic gold medal winning athlete and four time world champion. She has been praised as the best pound for pound female fighter in the world. Male professionals have described her technique as flawless and her punching ferocity as incredible and yet we still have this bull****.

    If a man charged Taylor to put her down she would sidestep him and crack, fight over. I mean the woman can duck, dodge and block several punches directed at her head by other similarly trained boxers, I'm sure she'd skip away from a fat-ass 5'10" man! Even if wrestled to the ground I sincerely doubt that she'd just give up, surprisingly people can still punch on the ground you know.


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    #189
    zenno
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    Could I beat her in a fight ?, well of course I could.

    I'd just hit her with my guitar, then handcuff her with my broken guitar strings and job done, simples.

    Or play comby ya ma lord first to distract her and then go in for the head-shot with the guitar.


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    #190
    spurious
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    zenno wrote: »
    Could I beat her in a fight ?, well of course I could.

    I'd just hit her with my guitar, then handcuff her with my broken guitar strings and job done, simples.

    Or play comby ya ma lord first to distract her and then go in for the head-shot with the guitar.

    Your method has merit.


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    #191
    blatantrereg
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbb2bb6R4cw


    Here she is sparring with Guillermo Rigondeaux in Limerick. He's about 5kg lighter than she is here I think. He's hardly average or anything; he's a world class boxer and a current title holder. Just thought it would be interesting to people here. Incidentally he is holding back a lot here. He has a shockingly powerful punch for such a small man - 8/10 wins by KO at a professional level.

    edit: Back to the original question, she would annihilate the average man. She also acquitted herself better against Rigondeaux than Willie Casey, who was the European Champion, and undefeated before this fight. That fight starts at about 1.30 in the following video; don't blink or you'll miss it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waHkpojI0vw


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    #192
    Sea Sharp
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    Of course she could.

    Katie could take down any man of any weight provided they have no real experience defending themselves against punches.
    It only takes one descent dig to the jaw to end a fight and there's very few average men that could prevent someone as fast and skilled as her from landing the KO.


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    #193
    Halloran springs
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    OMARS_COMING_ wrote: »
    Lets say for arguments sake that an average man is :

    5ft 10, 14 stone, keeps somewhat active and has little fight experience.

    Would he beat Katie Taylor.

    14 stone is "average" mens weight now?? Obesity epidemic indeed..


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    #194
    zenno
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    Halloran springs wrote: »
    14 stone is "average" mens weight now?? Obesity epidemic indeed..

    Dear Doctor Halloran springs, do you think 15 and a half stone for a 6 foot man is obese ? please don't say it is. I was wondering why I couldn't balance my guitar properly lately as my protruding beer gut was enveloping the top wooden structure of said guitar. Any tips Doctor ?.


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    #195
    Halloran springs
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    zenno wrote: »
    Dear Doctor Halloran springs, do you think 15 and a half stone for a 6 foot man is obese ? please don't say it is. I was wondering why I couldn't balance my guitar properly lately as my protruding beer gut was enveloping the top wooden structure of said guitar. Any tips Doctor ?.

    Unless you're hitting the gym every day and built like a tank, then yes I would definitely consider 6 foot / 15.5 stone overweight or obese.


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    #196
    zenno
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    Halloran springs wrote: »
    Unless you're hitting the gym every day and built like a tank, then yes I would definitely consider 6 foot / 15.5 stone overweight or obese.

    Looks like a few rounds with katie wouldn't be a bad idea so, wish me luck.


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    #197
    fran17
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    in the ring with head gear then i'd give her a fair chance but otherwise nah


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    #198
    1ZRed
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    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    I'm not saying i could beat her, I don't know. She does have great speed and is a powerful puncher, but there's a difference between a controlled fight in a boxing ring and a street fight with no rules. Boxing is only one element of fighting. What would happen if the fight went to ground, or if she fell victim to a choke hold? Boxing doesn't train you to deal with that. Anyway it would depend on the man involved. Two men could be the same height and weight, but one could be significantly tougher than the other.

    Well give me your stats so. I'm 6ft, about 12 stone and fairly muscular. I can fight but I don't have a huge amount of experience in it and I still wouldn't guarantee myself winning, even though I would have a lot of advantages on her. You just don't know because she has her training behind her that would transale into the street fight.


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    #199
    Sunnyisland
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    All fantasy stuff here people, it ain't going to happen.


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    #200
    teednab-el
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    It depends on what you mean by the term "fight". If you had krav maga, bjj ,muray Thai, boxing and kick boxing under your belt and you were good at them you would destroy her. Boxing is so limited when there are better martial arts out there. However its Katie Taylor gold medal opponent that Russian one I'd be more interested in kicking the sh#t out of and not Katie :D


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    #201
    darced
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    #202
    Daveysil15
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    1ZRed wrote: »
    Well give me your stats so. I'm 6ft, about 12 stone and fairly muscular. I can fight but I don't have a huge amount of experience in it and I still wouldn't guarantee myself winning, even though I would have a lot of advantages on her. You just don't know because she has her training behind her that would transale into the street fight.

    Well if you're well trained then the stats are not really an issue. I did kickboxing for years and a bit of MMA recently, so maybe that would give me an advantage, maybe not. Anything can happen in a street fight. Anyway I wouldn't like to fight Katie. She's a lovely girl and I was told never to hit a lady.


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    #203
    paddy147
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    If I stood in the ring with Katie Taylor,I would most probably be helped back out of the ring very soon after stepping into it.

    As would most of you here,posting on this thread.

    The girl has amazing speed and sight,so you wouldnt stand a chance against her.



    Oh,and Ive no problem in saying that Katie Taylor would send my flying onto my ar5e either.


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    #204
    Dietsquirt
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    she'd win within a minute


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    #205
    WoollyRedHat
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    Would Katie Taylor beat a..... Bear
    RTes new show, coming this Autumn, as every week Katie Taylor is presented a new target to beat the crap of.... because taking home a gold medal just doesn't cut it in order to prove yourself anymore. In the next episoide , Would Katie Taylor beat a..... load of travellers on a wet November morning.


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    #206
    1ZRed
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    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    Well if you're well trained then the stats are not really an issue. I did kickboxing for years and a bit of MMA recently, so maybe that would give me an advantage, maybe not. Anything can happen in a street fight. Anyway I wouldn't like to fight Katie. She's a lovely girl and I was told never to hit a lady.

    Well the argument was always pointless because no self respecting guy would ever fight her outside the ring and even in the ring, I wouldn't challenge her. My ass is for sitting not for getting kicked!


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    #207
    paddy147
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    Did anyone see her on the Late Late being interviewed by Tubs??

    She is the most humble person,and she is a role model to alot of people.

    Have a look at her "late late" interview on Youtube.
    You wouldnt think that she would knock 7 different colours of shyte out of you.




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    #208
    paddy147
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    Have a look at that late late interview youtube clip......


    Anyone notice that Russian young one looking sick as a dog too (1 minute 53 seconds in)..at the medal ceramony aswell.:D


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    #209
    Faith+1
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    I'm 6 '1 and reasonably fit but Katie would knock the sh*t out of me.


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    #210
    Daveysil15
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    paddy147 wrote: »
    Did anyone see her on the Late Late being interviewed by Tubs??

    She is the most humble person,and she is a role model to alot of people.

    Have a look at her "late late" interview on Youtube.
    You wouldnt think that she would knock 7 different colours of shyte out of you.



    I'm sure she could beat tubs anyway ha. But yes she's very down to earth. Her father looks like a tough bloke. I think he was a boxer too.


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    #211
    ScumLord
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    Sea Sharp wrote: »
    It only takes one descent dig to the jaw to end a fight
    I doubt she'd go for a punch to the jaw bare handed, she could very likely break her hand. A good shot to the liver can put anyone down, even the best trained fighters.


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