Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

Excuse the quality, when I chopped this section from the camera recording my video editing software seems to have dropped the quaility. Date also wrong

Does not look like it but I had to jump on the brakes when I realised white van man decided to overtake

delynet wrote: »

Excuse the quality, when I chopped this section from the camera recording my video editing software seems to have dropped the quaility. Date also wrong

Does not look like it but I had to jump on the brakes when I realised white van man decided to overtake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AtRwmoZFHM

Maybe I should change the colour of my vans, seems the term "white van man" doesn't have the best reputation :P

Yeah? That was yesterday alright! Maybe you're recorded on the camera

This dashcam video from Taiwan made me laugh...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d7_1346420157

Yup, packed to the brim!

Nah definitely not overloaded for the tyres. It's got 6 tyres and the load at the time was just household goods, (sofas, mattress, divan bases) so packed, but not overly heavy. I've had heavier loads with no problems before Tyres were the ones I've had on it since buying the van, still good thread and passed the DOE no problem only a few months ago. I think they might be a budget tyre though. Kumho or something like that! I recently got 4 Continental Vanco Four Seasons on the other van, pricey at around €700 for the lot but they have good reviews and seem good so far so I might just replace all 6 on this one with the same.

Front drivers side tyre, same as last time actually!

Shane_ef wrote: »

An Audi in a rush, The Camera lens make it look like there is more room than there actually was.

What speed were you doing there and what was the limit?

Who blew the horn?

I was 2.5 ish car lengths back, that's what I was thought, the traffic began to slow hence why I begin to close in on the car in front, you can just see the black car brake at one point, I think the Audi and myself misread the flow of traffic, he was too busy looking to overtake and I was too busy concentrating on him as he appeared as he was going to overtake

edit.. I don't know who blew a horn it wasn't my car.

Deandean, I took the advice of a couple of the lads on here and got one of these;
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-Flash-memory-card-Class/dp/B003VNKNF0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346793634&sr=8-1

That person is potentially 3-4 feet from causing an awful, awful mess.

Shane_ef wrote: »

Gents, opinions on this bit of driving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fphkK5mz7s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fphkK5mz7s

Also has an in-car view... ooohhh fancy

That is the sort of driver who will become or cause a statistic eventually. What a complete idiot

looking for a to buy a dashcam now off ebay.

Budget it max 60 euro, any reccomendations lads?

Tallon wrote: »

Do you just want something like the above?

Cheap and cheerful?

Yeah just something that will do the job, budget could move up to 80. If i like the idea i'd buy a better one in a couple of months.

Have been looking at this one....
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/130-Lens-New-F900LHD-Car-Camcorder-FULL-HD-DVR-1920-1080P-Dash-Cam-DV-RECORDER-/290770858920?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43b34b33a8

I doubt I could get a gps style one for my budget.

Nissan doctor wrote: »

I edited the video down to the relevant part on youtube as I don't have video editing software on my computer however I have now returned the video to full length for you....


@ 0:00 I enter the motorway into lane 1

@ 0:20 I move to lane 2 as i approach slow moving traffic in lane 1

@ 0:25 I continue into lane 3 as the traffic in lane 2 is also moving slower

@ 0:33 I complete the overtake and return to lane 2 and @ 0:40 return back to lane 1

@ 0:53 I continue in lane one at a steady cruise(not an overtake) past two slower moving vehicles incorrectly driving in lane two

@ 1:27 while still at a steady cruise in lane 1, I slow to allow a Golf to pull in and accross into the Belfast carriagway

@ 1:35 Lane 1 becomes the city exit carriagway(as indicated by the lane divider markings) and the only lane to continue all the way around to the M1/N1 and I continue in the same lane

@ 2:05 the Audi cuts across and causes me to brake heavily

@ 2:13 the Audi brakes hard for the second time and rather then brake hard again(there is now traffic behind) I switch to the slow/climbing lane to pass the Audi and the 206 which is in front.

@ 2:37 I merge back to the continious M1 lane behind traffic as the lane terminates ahead

@ 3:15 now on the M1 I move to lane 2 to ovetake slower traffic

@ 3:27 I move back to lane 1 where I continue until it becomes lane two(after merge), I pass another Golf and move again to lane 1, where Iremain for the remainder of the video


Can you point out the erratic driving, the cutting across 3 lanes, the going from lane 4 to lane one to overtake and especially the not indicating...I'm especially fascinated by that one.

And if I were driving like a loonatic can you tell me how that makes the actions of the Audi ok? He changes across from the M50 to the M1 exit lane and caused me to brake heavily at motorway speeds.....and its OK because there was no hatched lines and he flashed his hazzards???

I watched the video, and you seem to do plenty of undertaking, which is an offence.
Audi made a decision to change lanes and exit the motorway in the last moment, and therefore he cut across you forcing you to brake - but how was he supposed to know, that you will be undertaking that white van.
I'm sure he didn't expect any car there, and he was fully entitled not to expect anyone there, as undertaking is against the law.

All I can say from this video is that if no one was doing any undertaking there, there wouldn't be any problems.

guttenberg wrote: »

How was he undertaking the white van? Lane 1 was signposted for M1(?), Lane 2 and 3 signed for the port(driver was in lane 3), lane 4 and 5 signposted for Malahide- van in lane 4 and audi came up lane 5. Van was in left lane for his destination so he was fine, technically the OP should have been in lane 2, irrespective of that, the audi driver shouldnt of been coming up lane 5 and then switched to lane 3 at last minute.

Is your understanding that when lanes on motorway are signposted for different directions, then they are treated as separate roads, and therefore rule prohibiting overtaking on the left doesnt apply anymore? I wouldn't share this opinion.

Nissan doctor wrote: »

You are misunderstanding road markings I think.

When carriagways/lanes are serperated by thick white lines which are much closer together then standard lane seperation lines, then you have now entered a different carriagway. This carriagway can have seperate speed limits etc to the main carriagway(m50 in this case) beside it.

Have you got anything to support, that if part of motorway is separated by thick white lines which are much closer together, then it's 2 different carriageways, and therefore traffic on left one has nothing to do with traffic on right one? I already said I'm of opposite opinion, but I can't say I'm 100% certain. We both probably need to look up into rotr and regulations to be sure.

Besides, I would understand undertaking/overtaking as being defined as changing lanes for the purpose of passing a slower vehicle.

That statement is entirely wrong.
There is no need to change lane to be overtaking.
Overtaking/undertaking happens when one vehicle is travelling faster than other vehicle in the same direction, and eventually that vehicle passes slower vehcile on its side. No need to change lanes.

At no point did I do this to pass any vehicle on their left side.

Doesn't matter as your definition was entirely wrong.

The van where the Audi switched across was not in my carriagway and the couple of cars further back where moving slowly in lane 2(middle lane hoggers as is the boards term:)) and I didn't change lanes/speed etc, I simply continued at a steady speed.

Fact that you didn't change lane or speed, doesn't mean you were not overtaking / undertaking.

Imagine someone driving for the entire motorways at steady speed of 150km/h all the time on the right lane of motorway. Are you trying to say that such driver even though he passes hunderds of cars which were on left lane, didn't do any overtaking, just becuase he was travelling at constant speed and not changing lanes? nonsense.

By your basic understanding of undertaking, if I was in lane 1 and a car in lane 2 or 3 slowed suddenly for any reason, I must also slow so I don't pass them

Yes - that's exactly what you are supposed to do.

. This could only lead to more danger as would be the case if I had switched across 3 lanes and back again to overtake the two cars when my lane was completely clear.

Safe driving is as much about intelligence and common sence as it is about the hugging the ROTR book IMO.

I would love to see you explaining this to polizei in Germany after you didn't bother slowing down on lane 1, when other vehicles slowed down on lane 2.
In Ireland garda don't give a hell about lane discipline, so no one obesy the rules, and as we can see here, even drivers who are very much into motoring (like you), doesn't understand some basic rules.


Conclusion.
1. I'm not sure about that thick broken line if it really spearates carriageway into two separate carriageways. I doubt that, but I'm not sure, so I'll do some digging in regulations in nearest future to find out.

2. I'm 100% sure, that undertaking (overtaking on the left - whatever you call it) happens anytime when you go faster than other vehicle in the same direction, and you pass it on the left side, no matter if you changed lanes, accelerated, etc...
There are certain exceptions, when overtaking on the left is allowed in ROTR, but that's definitely not in cases you decribed.

I have a cheap cam that I got off ebay a year or two ago and just going to change as it is a little too big and the suction clamp is a bit dogdy - anyone have any thoughts or experience of any of these?
(think this is the one techmoan reviewed and looked pretty decent)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-7-140-Dual-Lens-dash-board-camera-car-dvr-black-box-video-recorder-gps-logger-/280753941622?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Recorders_Cards&hash=item415e3d2c76
No GPS logger but not too bothered about that
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2-7-HD-Dual-camera-car-dvr-recorder-support-CMOS-WXGA-HD-sensor-HDMI-/261095724314?signal=want_66392fd2-0521-30b9-816d-623a54aa77b8:e2bde010-fab3-11e1-b4bd-0050568f011e_0
1080p
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HD-1080P-Vehicle-Camera-Car-DVR-Video-Recorder-Cam-Dash-IR-Night-Vision-Blackbox-/320979156389?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Recorders_Cards&hash=item4abbd93da5

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-Camera-HD-Vehicle-DVR-Accident-Video-Recorder-Night-Vision-Car-Camcorder-DV-/150893333690?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item2321f18cba
This one has the option of sticking to the dash
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Vehicle-Camera-DVR-Traffic-Recorder-LED-720P-HD-Dashboard-/160880150797?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Recorders_Cards&hash=item257534490d