Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!

Gillington · 01-06-2012 11:44pm

-Ade- wrote: »

The Belgium national team are currently at a similar stage to where Spain and Holland were for many years in the early noughties namely, to a slightly lesser extent. Talent galore, many individually excellent players but there are a few divisions within the camp. Players with questionable egos and attitudes.

Regarding the squad, the starting XI is excellent but Lakaku needs to mature first. They lack a goalscoring striker. Hazard will be leading the line tomorrow though.

Only sort of opened my eyes to the class and potential Belgium have when I read this article earlier

http://www.givemefootball.com/internationals/belgium-set-to-continue-upward-trajectory

Potentially they could have a team of

Courtois (Chelsea)

Kompany(City)
Vertonghen(Ajax/Spurs)
Vermaelen(Arsenal)
Van Buyten(Bayern)

Hazard(Chelsea)
Fellaini(Everton)
Witsel(Benfica)
Defour(Porto)

Lukaku(Chelsea)
Dembele(Fulham)

with the likes of Pocognoli,De Bruyne,Alderweireld,Mignolet etc etc etc pushing my XI,Europe beware

Nuri Sahin · 02-06-2012 12:52am

Gillington wrote: »

Only sort of opened my eyes to the class and potential Belgium have when I read this article earlier

http://www.givemefootball.com/internationals/belgium-set-to-continue-upward-trajectory

Potentially they could have a team of

Courtois (Chelsea)

Kompany(City)
Vertonghen(Ajax/Spurs)
Vermaelen(Arsenal)
Van Buyten(Bayern)

Hazard(Chelsea)
Fellaini(Everton)
Witsel(Benfica)
Defour(Porto)

Lukaku(Chelsea)
Dembele(Fulham)

with the likes of Pocognoli,De Bruyne,Alderweireld,Mignolet etc etc etc pushing my XI,Europe beware

Mertens at PSV too is another excellent talent. Someone I'd love to see at Liverpool. Mirallas at Olympiakos is meant to be another very good player. Not seen much of him myself though to really give an informed opinion on him. Meant to be starting later on vs England though, so will see him then.

amiable · 02-06-2012 1:07am

I think Belgium are as low as about 30/1 on Betfair but you can get 100/1 with some bookies to win the 2014 World Cup.
Some people may think it's mad backing them now but it's worth a bet IMO as you can easily lay it off if they qualify.

Red Crow · 02-06-2012 1:20am

I don't think Belgium will be near the finals of the 2014 World Cup.

I think they are making good strides but i don't think they will make a splash until 2018.

Paul Tergat · 02-06-2012 1:27am

I think most European teams will struggle with the next WC being on in South America... kind of going away from the point of the thread though here

Jesus Wept · 02-06-2012 1:27am

I like the way Chelsea get the majority of their business done early.
Very different to the plodding cumbersome way that Liverpool insist upon.

amiable · 02-06-2012 1:29am

Eli Manning wrote: »

I don't think Belgium will be near the finals of the 2014 World Cup.

I think they are making good strides but i don't think they will make a splash until 2018.

You don't think they will qualify?

amiable · 02-06-2012 1:31am

Paul Tergat wrote: »

I think most European teams will struggle with the next WC being on in South America... kind of going away from the point of the thread though here

That's not the point I was making. I was saying I think they will definitely qualify barring mutiny in the camp and once qualified you can lay the bet off and have a free bet on them to win the tournament

Paul Tergat · 02-06-2012 1:34am

amiable wrote: »

That's not the point I was making. I was saying I think they will definitely qualify barring mutiny in the camp and once qualified you can lay the bet off and have a free bet on them to win the tournament

I got what you meant. I understand backing them now then laying when they qualify and the odds have come down

My point was just a general one, seeing as we were talking about the WC, that most European nations will struggle in a SA WC

Samich · 02-06-2012 1:42am

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I like the way Chelsea get the majority of their business done early.
Very different to the plodding cumbersome way that Liverpool insist upon.

Liverpool probably prefer to have their manager in place before signing players.

JPA · 02-06-2012 1:44am

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I like the way Chelsea get the majority of their business done early.
Very different to the plodding cumbersome way that Liverpool insist upon.

It's easier to sign players when you can pull out a cheque book, pen in hand and say "how much?"

Gonzovision · 02-06-2012 1:48am

Samich wrote: »

Liverpool probably prefer to have their manager in place before signing players.

Yep, that's the scattergun approach, let's interview all the managers that got a team promoted last year, I think we'll take Hazard and Hulk instead of 2nd or 3rd choice manager. Or why not ask twitter...oh wait

Jesus Wept · 02-06-2012 1:55am

Samich wrote: »

Liverpool probably prefer to have their manager in place before signing players.

It's the same every year for as long as I can recall.

Nuri Sahin · 02-06-2012 1:59am

Samich wrote: »

Liverpool probably prefer to have their manager in place before signing players.

I could be mistaken by Sir Andy Carroll's comment, but I think he meant in general. Liverpool have always been rather slow to get their business done in the summer.

Samich · 02-06-2012 2:00am

Andy Carroll wrote: »

It's the same every year for as long as I can recall.

I can't even remember a Summer with all this much transfer action so early. Maybe there has been.

dreamers75 · 02-06-2012 2:05am

gonzovision wrote: »

Yep, that's the scattergun approach, let's interview all the managers that got a team promoted last year, I think we'll take Hazard and Hulk instead of 2nd or 3rd choice manager. Or why not ask twitter...oh wait

Or take who????

Doesnt matter who gets the job, its short term work period until the owner decided otherwise.

must be mad getting excited at all these signings then realising you have no manager to make them play

Gonzovision · 02-06-2012 9:51am

Di Matteo is manager until June 30th

greendom · 02-06-2012 11:31am

gonzovision wrote: »

Di Matteo is manager until June 30th

That's like being Father Christmas just for the month of January.

Oat23 · 03-06-2012 2:07pm

Kuyt to Fenerbahce on a 3 year deal according to their Twitter.

https://twitter.com/#!/fenerbahce

Jax Teller · 03-06-2012 2:12pm

Did I see Holiett had signed for Borussia Mönchengladbach earlier ?

Oat23 · 03-06-2012 2:17pm

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Did I see Holiett had signed for Borussia Mönchengladbach earlier ?

Express are the only ones reporting he has signed a deal. Others saying he is close to agreeing a deal.

Great signing for only €800k if it goes through.

Sgt Pepper 64 · 03-06-2012 2:28pm

Samich wrote: »

Liverpool probably prefer to have their manager in place before signing players.

Why? Your new owners have made it clear that the manager will have no say anymore over transfers.

monkey9 · 03-06-2012 2:42pm

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Why? Your new owners have made it clear that the manager will have no say anymore over transfers.

No they didn't!!! If that was the case, Rodgers would still be manager of Swansea!

Dickerty · 03-06-2012 2:55pm

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Kuyt to Fenerbahce on a 3 year deal according to their Twitter.

https://twitter.com/#!/fenerbahce

As a Pool fan, I'm sad to see him go, but he was a great servant. The sort of player who will always be welcome home to Anfield...

Mr Alan · 03-06-2012 3:02pm

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Why? Your new owners have made it clear that the manager will have no say anymore over transfers.

Swing and a miss in the Liverpool thread so trying your luck in here?

CSF · 03-06-2012 3:03pm

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I like the way Chelsea get the majority of their business done early.
Very different to the plodding cumbersome way that Liverpool insist upon.

To be fair, they've massively overspent on players. If any club were willing to do that (and Liverpool certainly have been recently) they could get their business done early. Your Arsenal, United and Tottenham's will be using a bit more savvy to get the best deals possible.

Turtyturd · 03-06-2012 3:03pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

Swing and a miss in the Liverpool thread so trying your luck in here?

Best part is he is responding to a non Liverpool fan.

Oat23 · 04-06-2012 12:19am

Hoilett to Gladbach for €800k is done according to most German journos I follow.

The Twitter ignorance is unreal tonight if you type Junior Hoilett into the search. Enjoy the stupidity.

G.K. · 04-06-2012 12:28am

I'm sitting there laughing at people saying he has no amibition.

Bertser · 04-06-2012 12:37am

Just people pretending to know about football when all they need to do is have one look at the Bundesliga table from last season. Hope he does well.

mufcboy1999 · 04-06-2012 12:42am

What a steal at that price , it's a crime to pay millions for the likes of bebe and you see a better player going for that.

As far as lack of ambition , ignorant is right there a champions league team in one of the best leagues in football, some great talent playing out their.

Iv heard before the German league has the highest attendances in Europe , it's pretty entertaining to watch from what Iv seen of it on Espn on occasions too.

kryogen · 04-06-2012 12:45am

Would have thought, and no disrespect meant here at all, that he would have been picked up by a higher profile club for such a low fee.

Good luck to him, good league to ply your trade in

Nuri Sahin · 04-06-2012 12:56am

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Hoilett to Gladbach for €800k is done according to most German journos I follow.

The Twitter ignorance is unreal tonight if you type Junior Hoilett into the search. Enjoy the stupidity.

Commented on it an hour ago on Twitter. Mind boggles with some people. Lack of ambition? He just joined a Champions League club. Lol, that isn't lacking ambition and is willing to play abroad. He'll be a much better player for it. I wish him and 'gladbach all the best next season, lot of people outside of Germany don't realise the quality of their football. Himself and Xhaka are too very, very good signings and I can't wait to see them in action next season.

G.K. · 04-06-2012 1:03am

Off topic but I've literally only just realised -Ade- = El LoCo Ade.

I feel dumb.

JPA · 04-06-2012 1:13am

He was that price because his contract was up and he is under 23 so it is compensation.

He also played in Germany and scored against monchengladbach so they were well aware of him.

Still surprising though that he wasn't really linked to many English clubs lately.

Samich · 04-06-2012 1:18am

Such an exciting player. Enjoyed a lot of his goals last season, won't be seeing them any more

Liam O · 04-06-2012 1:27am

G.K. wrote: »

Off topic but I've literally only just realised -Ade- = El LoCo Ade.

I feel dumb.

Ah he's gone majorly downhill since the Adnan_Alves (sp?) days :P

Frisbee · 04-06-2012 1:55am

Had been hoping Wenger had plans to snap up Hoilett this summer. Disappointing news.

Samich · 04-06-2012 1:59am

Liam O wrote: »

Ah he's gone majorly downhill since the Adnan_Alves (sp?) days :P

He was adnan_alves? :eek:

Samich · 04-06-2012 2:01am

Frisbee wrote: »

Had been hoping Wenger had plans to snap up Hoilett this summer. Disappointing news.

Who do you think Wenger will sign this Summer?

On paper it doesn't look a bad team. Not sure about Ramsay, Ox and Walcott are ok, if Walcott could use his pace properly.

Is Gibbs good enough?

Verthongen wouldn't have been a bad buy for ye, could cover LB too.

Frisbee · 04-06-2012 2:18am

Samich wrote: »

Who do you think Wenger will sign this Summer?

We've already got Podolski.

I expect a keeper we've never heard of to come in as a #2.

And someone like M'Vila but not him as we won't pay a large amount for him.

All of which completely ignores the massive weaknesses we have going forward. van Persie needs decent back up which he won't get and we absolutely need another option than Ramsey/Rosicky in the #10 role. Which we also won't get.

amiable · 04-06-2012 2:03pm

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Walcotts off to chelsea

Says that bastion of football knowledge that is Caughtoffside.
Good work Sgt

mufcboy1999 · 04-06-2012 2:14pm

Samich wrote: »

Frisbee wrote: »

Had been hoping Wenger had plans to snap up Hoilett this summer. Disappointing news.

Who do you think Wenger will sign this Summer?

On paper it doesn't look a bad team. Not sure about Ramsay, Ox and Walcott are ok, if Walcott could use his pace properly.

Is Gibbs good enough?

Verthongen wouldn't have been a bad buy for ye, could cover LB too.

Will Wilshire be back for the start of the new season ?

He's a proper talent to be fair and Would be like a new signing.

ctrl-alt-delete · 04-06-2012 2:50pm

JPA wrote: »

He was that price because his contract was up and he is under 23 so it is compensation.

He also played in Germany and scored against monchengladbach so they were well aware of him.

Still surprising though that he wasn't really linked to many English clubs lately.

It would have been significantly higher compensation had he stayed in England, so maybe priced a few out.

Best of look to him over there.

DenMan · 04-06-2012 3:52pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Will Wilshire be back for the start of the new season ?

He's a proper talent to be fair and Would be like a new signing.

He sure is and I can guarantee Wenger will say that come July/August.

mufcboy1999 · 04-06-2012 6:06pm

How much did spurs pay everton for Saha in January ?

Bit strange that he's been released after only a few months.

Professional Griefer · 04-06-2012 6:15pm

Hes off to Lille isn't he?

amiable · 04-06-2012 6:23pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

How much did spurs pay everton for Saha in January ?

Bit strange that he's been released after only a few months.

I don't think they paid anything

mufcboy1999 · 04-06-2012 6:41pm

That would make sense alright.

I'm wondering if the release has anything to do with his tweets after Chelsea won the euro...

He's certainly capable of doing a job at spurs just find it a bit odd he was only given a few months.

He scored a few goals too I think.

JPA · 04-06-2012 6:49pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

That would make sense alright.

I'm wondering if the release has anything to do with his tweets after Chelsea won the euro...

He's certainly capable of doing a job at spurs just find it a bit odd he was only given a few months.

He scored a few goals too I think.

Seems they took over the last 6 months of his contract and Everton got Pienaar on loan. A bit unusual.

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