Temp Clerical Officers in Civil Service

jd83 · 24-02-2011 2:21pm #1

Hi,

Dont know if posted already but anyway heres the link.

http://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/en/star/goToJobDetails.do?id=1057&featuredJob=true

Easy couple of hundred euro for a week for a few months if anyones interested.

Newport81 · 24-02-2011 3:44pm

The money is so crap

AnnyHallsal · 24-02-2011 3:48pm

smyths wrote: »

The money is so crap

It's nearly 200 a week more than the dole.

tannytantans · 24-02-2011 4:26pm

It's definitely better than the dole but money isn't great at all. My boyfriend's a clerical officer on €485 before tax, after tax he gets €398 per week so I doubt the wage will be much more than €300 pw after tax

LuckyMe63 · 24-02-2011 4:34pm

It's a job, it gets you out of the house, gets you more money than the dole... I don't understand what you're complaining about.

to the poster - thanks you for letting us know about these oppurtunities

thebostoncrab · 24-02-2011 5:40pm

Thanks for psoting this OP, I applied for this last year and got a job. I finish up in May so this starts perfectly for myself. While the money isn't amazing it's much better than the dole and it really helped me with my depression that was made worse by being unemployed for so long.

Scarydoll · 24-02-2011 7:01pm

Thanks op for posting this! Whenever I check that site there's never anything I can apply for.

ABajaninCork · 24-02-2011 7:06pm

I got this through last night, so downloaded and completed the questionnaire this morning.

I'll keep you all posted on how I get on if you like?

PattheMetaller · 24-02-2011 7:09pm

So to those who think the money is crap, this kinda contradicts the general theme in this country that the PS is way overpaid. Either that or the welfare is way over paid.

Denerick · 24-02-2011 7:29pm

That questionairre is such a load of bull****, really sums up bureaucracy. Anyone who gives a truthful account of their own abilities will not get this job. Those (Like me) who lie and say they are the best at everything will automatically rank higher. Sums up everything that is retarded and pathetic about this country.

I got in on this before, its a complete gravy train. Good luck to all.

McSween · 24-02-2011 9:30pm

definately not doing this questionnaire alone this time. have been unsuccessful twice, despite getting the job through the local employment service in 2009.

any tips on it? i don't think it is as simple as it looks.

Denerick · 24-02-2011 9:34pm

McSween wrote: »

definately not doing this questionnaire alone this time. have been unsuccessful twice, despite getting the job through the local employment service in 2009.

any tips on it? i don't think it is as simple as it looks.

There are a few tricks in it. Basically read every question and give yourself the optimum ability possible. Throw in a few less enthusiastic endorsements (Instead of 'better than most' say 'slightly better than most', for example) You will be asked about it in the interview so just say 'Its hard to praise myself in person, easy to do it on the internet'. You'll be fine.

The important thing is to lie and to not be modest.

Mrs OBumble · 24-02-2011 9:51pm

smyths wrote: »

The money is so crap

It's 10% less than it was last year, in line with govt policy to lower the pay of all new PS new entrants by 10%.

How much anyone gets depends on their tax credits and how much else they've earned this year. But last year, it was roughly 420 pw, and I was taking home approx 380, so would expect to be taking home approx 340 this year. And you get the pension levy (last year was about 200 from 13 weeks work) back at the end too.

In fairness, this year's rate is about the same as I'm getting for a private sector temping role at the moment - and the private sector role has a truckload more stress, responsibility, and challenging customers to deal with.

noddyname · 24-02-2011 10:10pm

PattheMetaller wrote: »

So to those who think the money is crap, this kinda contradicts the general theme in this country that the PS is way overpaid. Either that or the welfare is way over paid.

+1

df1985 · 24-02-2011 10:20pm

Can you apply more than once in the sense that i would be willing to work in a number of the locations?? I live in Leixlip, so could easily work in Dublin and Kildare.

McSween · 24-02-2011 10:27pm

df1985 wrote: »

Can you apply more than once in the sense that i would be willing to work in a number of the locations?? I live in Leixlip, so could easily work in Dublin and Kildare.

once only i suspect. been registered on there a few years but i am sure my pps number is part of my registration. otherwise you could set up many accounts.

Yawns · 24-02-2011 10:43pm

You can only apply for the one area. The only other area you can apply for along with your 1st preference is swords.

Yawns · 24-02-2011 10:44pm

Oh and ty OP for posting. I would have missed it otherwise, I checked the site there other day and only do so every other week or so when I think of it. So big thank you.

To be quite fair the pay is not crap if you have been on the dole.

Denerick · 24-02-2011 11:11pm

The pay is flipping fantastic, hope to God I get it. 350 per week after tax will translate into 100 per week straight into the credit union, 65 per week paying off bills, and the rest is to go on drink, drugs and prostitutes. Nice. I live out in the bogs so rent is like 5 pence a month.

jd83 · 24-02-2011 11:24pm

Ive done this a couple of summers when i was in college. Wont be apply this year as i have a job. Easy enough job, flexitime is great and it is something to stick on cv. If you get past the appication form your in as the interviews are handy. Good luck!

Phantasos · 24-02-2011 11:34pm

Okay am I completely blind or something? Where's the link to the questionnaire? I don't see any.

siblers · 25-02-2011 2:59am

Anyone got any advice for the questionare on this? Missed out on it last year and will be gutted to do so again.

Barrypr · 25-02-2011 10:15am

Denerick wrote: »

The pay is flipping fantastic, hope to God I get it. 350 per week after tax will translate into 100 per week straight into the credit union, 65 per week paying off bills, and the rest is to go on drink, drugs and prostitutes. Nice. I live out in the bogs so rent is like 5 pence a month.

Yeah staying on the dole is much better and has way more perks let all those fools out working pay for me to wait for the perfect job to come about.....

Hammer Archer · 25-02-2011 6:59pm

Phantasos wrote: »

Okay am I completely blind or something? Where's the link to the questionnaire? I don't see any.

www.publicjobsdata.com/tco2011/
It's at the bottom of the information booklet.

siblers wrote: »

Anyone got any advice for the questionare on this? Missed out on it last year and will be gutted to do so again.

Lie. Basically say you're fantastic at everything and enjoy everything (I love photocopying :rolleyes:). Also I think that putting "Not important" for certain qurestions (variety of work, out and about rather than deskbound) could give you an edge.
Worked as a TCO in 2008 and last year and enjoyed it both times. Both times I worked in Justice and both times it was pretty fun and interesting work. However I've heard of people getting mind numbingly boring positions for the summer.

siblers · 25-02-2011 8:08pm

Cheers. Would take anything really. Only been on the dole a week but it's a week too many/

Monife · 25-02-2011 10:43pm

Anyone who's not going to apply because they are already in temporary employment, apply anyway and state your availability at interview.

I am a TCO in the CSO at the moment and my contract ends early next year. Even though I have a year left, I am already worrying about how I will pay rent, bills etc then. I rang PAS and asked would I be allowed to apply and they said definitely as long as I am upfront and honest at interview with my availability and keep them posted on my availability, you can remain on the panel.

With the current economic climate, they might not hold another competition like this for a few years (the PAS lady said) so this panel might stay open for 3 years (they usually stay open 1 year).

TOMP · 25-02-2011 10:55pm

Extract from job information:

Hours of Attendance
Hours of Attendance are as fixed from time to time but will amount to not less than 41 hours per week.

Is this a typo?

Denerick · 26-02-2011 1:19am

TOMP wrote: »

Extract from job information:

Hours of Attendance
Hours of Attendance are as fixed from time to time but will amount to not less than 41 hours per week.

Is this a typo?

Its a weird one alright. Last time I worked there 35 was the norm. 37.5 per week on the flexi system earned you a day and halfs leave per month, so most people worked 37.5 hours. You wouldn't believe the amount of fraud went on with that clocking machine

wench · 26-02-2011 9:58am

TOMP wrote: »

Extract from job information:

Hours of Attendance
Hours of Attendance are as fixed from time to time but will amount to not less than 41 hours per week.

Is this a typo?

Technically its 41 hrs per week, but your actual working time is 35 hrs.

The 41 hrs comes from the traditional working day where flexi is not in operation. 9.15 to 5.30 Mon-Thur, and 9.15 to 5.15 on Fri

Monife · 26-02-2011 11:19am

TOMP wrote: »

Extract from job information:

Hours of Attendance
Hours of Attendance are as fixed from time to time but will amount to not less than 41 hours per week.

Is this a typo?

Working in the CSO as a TCO and your daily hours of work are 7 hours. You have to take a min of 30 mins for lunch (most only take the 30mins), making your day 7 and a half hours long. You can work more than this and build up flexi time. You can build up a maximum of 11.30 hours (10.30 hours being an extra day and a half off). So if you come in at 8 and go at 4 every day you have built up 10 hours over the 4 weeks, so do an extra half hour the other day, and you have an extra day and a half off in the following month. Not all government departments operate a flexi system. Some do shift work, for example the department of justice, or other public offices. If you live near swords, pick the swords option, as that is for the CSO in swords.

ciaramc · 26-02-2011 10:54pm

Would love to get one of these jobs. Applied last year, but didnt get accepted.

sjms · 01-03-2011 3:20pm

I applied! I would absolutely LOVE to get one of these positions! I cannot believe people are knocking the money! Its definitely above minimum wage! Which is a million times better than the dole! When should we find out if we make it past stage 1?

df1985 · 01-03-2011 3:55pm

Ive my fingers, toes, everything crossed I get lucky with this, unemployed for too long and this would be perfect experience.

For anyone that applied last year, what kind of time frame are we looking at to expect a response??

Dymo · 01-03-2011 4:07pm

Isn't it a bit controversial at the end, when it asks you are you gay or straight, White, Black, Asian or Black Asian. And then are you a irish Traveller. Wonder if I put I was a Black Asian Traveler would I stand a better chance?

thebostoncrab · 01-03-2011 4:10pm

df1985 wrote: »

Ive my fingers, toes, everything crossed I get lucky with this, unemployed for too long and this would be perfect experience.

For anyone that applied last year, what kind of time frame are we looking at to expect a response??

It all depends were you end up tbh. Some people got work instantly,some a few weeks down the line. I know it was 6 months before I got a call offering me a job. They keep you on the panel for a year and as TCO work pops up they refer to it.

Nolanger · 01-03-2011 9:53pm

smyths wrote: »

The money is so crap

Not if you're 16!

Monife · 01-03-2011 10:20pm

df1985 wrote: »

Ive my fingers, toes, everything crossed I get lucky with this, unemployed for too long and this would be perfect experience.

For anyone that applied last year, what kind of time frame are we looking at to expect a response??

For me last year, I applied for TCO position in March. Got email calling me for interview 3 weeks later for interview for end of April. 2 weeks later got email telling me I was successful (no mention of a panel but only assume now that I was on one). And then got offered a position the 3rd week of July. They might be a bit quicker now seeing as CSO swords is looking for people quite soon-ish. So if you put swords or dublin down, you might hear quite soon after interview, if you are successful at interview.

Mrs OBumble · 02-03-2011 1:43am

thebostoncrab wrote: »

It all depends were you end up tbh. Some people got work instantly,some a few weeks down the line. I know it was 6 months before I got a call offering me a job. They keep you on the panel for a year and as TCO work pops up they refer to it.

Last year they introduced a new rule that says each person on the panel can only be offered one job - and once you've had your 13 weeks or whatever, you go off the panel.

It looks like they're doing the same this year (there's a wee line in the handbook).

fyi, last year I applied in late Feb (I guess) interviewed in I think mid/late April, offered work in mid May to start in early June.

Truck · 02-03-2011 3:57pm

Hey, Does anyone know the most likely areas for most positions to be? I know Swords will have alot of positions immedietly but any other areas besides that?
Thanks

Mayo Miss · 02-03-2011 4:48pm

Just filled in the questionnaire, I didn't see anywhere to put in my CV or any qualification details. Did I miss a page?

Some daft questions on there.

Truck · 02-03-2011 4:56pm

Yea no place for the CV, strange! :rolleyes:

snowy25 · 02-03-2011 5:05pm

JustMary wrote: »

Last year they introduced a new rule that says each person on the panel can only be offered one job - and once you've had your 13 weeks or whatever, you go off the panel.

It looks like they're doing the same this year (there's a wee line in the handbook).

fyi, last year I applied in late Feb (I guess) interviewed in I think mid/late April, offered work in mid May to start in early June.

Do you only get a contract for 13 weeks or could you get more? I applied for positions in Cork. Could you get a contract for 6 months or even a year?

Mrs OBumble · 02-03-2011 9:19pm

snowy25 wrote: »

Do you only get a contract for 13 weeks or could you get more? I applied for positions in Cork. Could you get a contract for 6 months or even a year?

That's possible, if they have a any 6 or 12 month positions to fill. Unlikely though, 'cos most departments aren't allowed to fill maternity leave positions any more. The panel is mainly for summer workers to fill positions of folks who've taken the long holiday break thingie (can't remember it's real name), which is either 8 or 13 weeks.

What they're saying is "no extensions" - each person on the panel only gets offered one job, and if they've got more work after that, someone new gets it. This really annoyed the managers in the dept I was in last summer: they're just getting people trained in to do the basic processing in the section after 13 weeks, and they'd far rather keen trained people than hire new ones. But I can see the overall govt point re sharing the work among the largest pool of people.

For the people who asked about quals and CV's: no you didn't miss a step. Selection is not based on these. Not being allowed to submit a CV is quite common in publicly funded jobs these days: they want to do their selection using the same info from everyone. And in fairness, having a degree or whatever won't make you a better mail-opener or photocopy operator or filing-clerk.

pow wow · 02-03-2011 11:37pm

Longer contracts can come up on project work where regular staff can't stretch to cover it. I know of one Department who has a number of 11 month temps in at the moment for that reason. It's not unheard of, just less common than it might have been before.

Crow92 · 04-03-2011 11:39pm

Hey guys, does anyone know how the questionnaire is scored? Is it done by a computer or shifter through by people? And also is the "best" answer always the one that scores highest?

I answered this truthfully when I did it and was even modest some times because I didn't want to come across as too cocky. I find it grosely wrong for it to be scored by a computer and lying getting you the highest, mainly because I believe if I got an interview I'd get it =/

Yawns · 05-03-2011 12:11am

Crow92 it is done by computer afaik. I answered honestly last year and got nothing. Ticked most of the best answers with 1 or 2 here or there as honest. I can't help myself, don't want to completly lie on everything on it. If I don't get it and I'm in the same position next year I will just lie on everything.

Hammer Archer · 05-03-2011 9:58pm

Big mistake to be honest unfortunately. You simply have to lie.

Truck wrote: »

Hey, Does anyone know the most likely areas for most positions to be? I know Swords will have alot of positions immedietly but any other areas besides that?
Thanks

The two times I got it, it was in the city centre. Most others who I know were also in the city centre although one got it in the Phoenix Park.

Mrs OBumble · 05-03-2011 10:05pm

Crow92 wrote: »

I find it grosely wrong for it to be scored by a computer and lying getting you the highest, mainly because I believe if I got an interview I'd get it =/

Based on last year, there will be (short) interviews as well.

The computer screening is just so that they don't waste time interviewing thousands of candidates when there are only a few hundred jobs nationwide.

But TBH, it's basic clerical work. Pretty much anyone who can manage to cope with the questionnaire can do the job. The only challenge is whether you can cope with the boredom.

aine92 · 06-03-2011 11:43pm

Its such random selection, judging by the guys I know who have and haven't gotten it. Genuinely some of the people who got it you'd need to keep an eye on incase they robbed the staplers.

Does anybody know when they start to call back, when we'll know by? :pac:

newballsplease · 08-03-2011 5:49pm

Anyone know when we get any word back on the questionaire/test thing?

kilburn · 08-03-2011 8:36pm

You will get a generic you are on a panel or you were unsuccessful email in a few weeks

Temp Clerical Officers in Civil Service

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