Sherlock confirms that ‘Irish SOPA’ has been signed into law

ottostreet · 29-02-2012 10:03pm

fluorescence wrote: »

No it's grand, I said anyone could use it It just made me laugh because I noticed all the grammar mistakes I made :pac:

I couldn't have written it any better!

Seachmall · 29-02-2012 10:09pm

The ECJ once again rule intermediaries cannot be held responsible for monitoring or filtering content (this time in specific relation to Social Networks).

EU Court of Justice: Social Networks Can’t Be Forced to Monitor and Filter to Prevent Copyright Infringement

Another ruling that completely and explicitly demonstrates that this legislation is not in accordance with the intention of the EU despite what Sherlock says.

Fluorescence · 29-02-2012 10:09pm

Seachmall wrote: »

The ECJ once again rule intermediaries are not responsible for monitoring or filtering content (this time in specific relation to Social Networks).

EU Court of Justice: Social Networks Can’t Be Forced to Monitor and Filter to Prevent Copyright Infringement

Another ruling that completely and explicitly demonstrates that this legislation is not in accordance with EU law despite what Sherlock says.

He hasn't a clue what he's on about - it's painfully obvious from his comments to the media.

Wetai · 29-02-2012 10:32pm

Paypal's going to love this (even if it's not directly affecting them, they'll see what kind of decisions - whether it's right for the people or not - go through in Ireland).

Paparazzo · 29-02-2012 10:35pm

Funny that there's no mention of any of this on the News section of his site.
He won't get voted in again, but he'll sit of a few quango boards that require a week a year of actual work. He'll get something out of this.

ottostreet · 29-02-2012 10:39pm

My parents just watched the 9 o clock news, and were blissfully unaware of what's going on. It's criminal how much this has been kept hush hush. Not that the RTE demographic would really give a **** what happens to the Internet.

smash · 29-02-2012 10:40pm

RIP Sean Sherlock's career. I'm guessing his constituency office will have a riot outside it soon.

Spoonman75 · 29-02-2012 10:43pm

smash wrote: »

RIP Sean Sherlock's career. I'm guessing his constituency office will have a riot outside it soon.

Have you seen the comments on his Facebook page yet?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sean-Sherlock-TD/185032148201312

hmmm · 29-02-2012 10:48pm

Internet threats are all very well, but won't make any difference.

What "we" have to do is target the re-election chances of politicians who go against the wishes of the people. For example, I'd be willing to put my hand in my pocket to donate to a google ad campaign reminding voters of what he has done. People in his constituency need to get out and canvass for his opponents.

I've noting personal against the guy, but unless a politician feels an electoral impact for going against a group of people it won't make a blind bit of difference to them.

Gran Hermano · 29-02-2012 10:49pm

Let the exodus of IT jobs and companies begin.

Sure it's not like his supporters and voters in Cork need IT jobs

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0229/blizzard.html

The games company Blizzard Entertainment is to seek around 200 redundancies from the 880 people it employs in Cork.

Eric Cartman · 29-02-2012 10:52pm

anyone have this lads address / home phone number / car reg, I think they need to be posted....just for the craic like

edit, im sure this is his office but :

Address:
Davis Lane
Mallow
Co. Cork

Tel:
Phone: 022-53523

smash · 29-02-2012 10:55pm

Spoonman75 wrote: »

smash wrote: »

RIP Sean Sherlock's career. I'm guessing his constituency office will have a riot outside it soon.

Have you seen the comments on his Facebook page yet?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sean-Sherlock-TD/185032148201312

Yea I saw them. To be honest I don't think people should wait for an election. This crowd should be forced out. Enough is enough.

Haelium · 29-02-2012 10:57pm

smash wrote: »

Yea I saw them. To be honest I don't think people should wait for an election. This crowd should be forced out. Enough is enough.

It would be a good idea to force them out if there was an alternative. Fianna Fail are an evil shower of psychopaths, and Sinn Fein/ULA are idealists with some terrible ideas.

Wetai · 29-02-2012 11:00pm

Spoonman75 wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2012/0222/1224312169336.html

That's what I was partially referring to.
I wonder if it's possible for them to actually back out at this stage. Not saying they should (as people wouldn't get jobs, and might lose jobs they already have in some sectors that they've already populated), but that - or something similar - is probably the only thing that'd actually get these fools to realise the problems with this.

PseudoFamous · 29-02-2012 11:02pm

Haelium wrote: »

It would be a good idea to force them out if there was an alternative. Fianna Fail are an evil shower of psychopaths, and Sinn Fein/ULA are idealists with some terrible ideas.

Could we just pull 160 randomers off the street, and hire one of them full time to shout "CHANGE PLACES!" when we need a new government?

mariebeth · 29-02-2012 11:02pm

Sent Sean this lovely email just now. I wonder will he ignore it?

Hi Sean, it's great to see politicians doing what they do best - ignoring the people who have elected them. The vast majority of ordinary, everyday Irish people did NOT want this law signed, and very many people have objected to it, yet you ignored all the complaints and signed it in to law anyway.

Thanks to you I have lost any inkling of faith or trust that I might have had in the Irish political system and Irish politicians. You, and your cronies in Leinster house are very obviously NOT working in our advantage. It amazes me how quick you are to sign in to law an EU directive, which is not actually necessary to be in compliance with Europe, purely because it benefits the politicians and the 'big business'.

Yet Ireland ratified the UN Conventions on the Rights of the Child in 1992, and have to date FAILED to give children rights beyond the right to education, in this country. Governments have failed to legislate for legal abortions on the grounds of risk of suicide in the past 20 years. These are issues which affect normal, everyday people, and we have consistently been neglected and ignored by governments. And that's totally ignoring the current recession that we are going through.

Ireland in 2012 isn't a great place to live in, it's not even close to being a very good place to live in. Our education system is getting worse, our public health care system is a joke, and the private health care system is going down that route as well. The morale of the people of Ireland hasn't been this low in years. The Irish people's faith in the government is at 35% as of January, but your actions have more than likely decrased that trust even further.

I only wish that the people of Ireland could vote 'no confidence' in their government, because I have absolutely no confidence in you, or the rest of the government at this time. I really hope you read this, and take even some of what I have said to heart. Please stop ignoring the people of Ireland. We gave you your job. We pay you for the job you do for us. And we can take that job away from you at the next election.

drdeadlift · 29-02-2012 11:04pm

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Unfortunately, this will be shown to be true. No doubt about that. But both sides would have been offering it.

There is no balance of power within the government that reality only bit me arse yesterday when i was watching Adams stand alone in questioning the upcoming referendum.

Spoonman75 · 29-02-2012 11:09pm

hmmm wrote: »

Internet threats are all very well, but won't make any difference.

What "we" have to do is target the re-election chances of politicians who go against the wishes of the people. For example, I'd be willing to put my hand in my pocket to donate to a google ad campaign reminding voters of what he has done. People in his constituency need to get out and canvass for his opponents.

I've noting personal against the guy, but unless a politician feels an electoral impact for going against a group of people it won't make a blind bit of difference to them.

Agreed. The 80,000 concerned citizens (registered voters) including myself who signed the online petition won't forget this. And I don't mean just Sherlock himself. I'm talking any Labour candidate that canvasses to me. The Labour Party can go to hell.

drdeadlift · 29-02-2012 11:13pm

Why dont we protest to have him out of government?

ottostreet · 29-02-2012 11:28pm

There's a resign page after going up!

Spoonman75 · 29-02-2012 11:28pm

ottostreet wrote: »

There's a resign page after going up!

Link?

wonderfulname · 29-02-2012 11:29pm

ottostreet wrote: »

There's a resign page after going up!

Linky?

Spoonman75 · 29-02-2012 11:37pm

wonderfulname wrote: »

Linky?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Resign-Minister-Sherlock/139427996180177

ottostreet · 29-02-2012 11:40pm

Spoonman75 wrote: »

He's just posted a response on his Facebook page to all the outrage he's had to read.

"No abuse please. Try to keep your views polite. Discuss the politician, not the man"

How the hell can furious people be "polite"?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sean-Sherlock-TD/185032148201312

Eh, I'm pretty sure Sean Sherlock himself didn't start a page calling for his own resignation!

Spoonman75 · 29-02-2012 11:50pm

ottostreet wrote: »

Eh, I'm pretty sure Sean Sherlock himself didn't start a page calling for his own resignation!

No he didn't. Somebody else set one up under an hour ago. But that quote I mentioned in my post is on his own Facebook page.

Edit: Oh, my bad.

nyarlothothep · 29-02-2012 11:52pm

That's probably not Sherlock posting himself but one of his underlings.

curry-muff · 29-02-2012 11:53pm

That's it, I'm off to start a riot!!!

squod · 29-02-2012 11:54pm

Spoonman75 wrote: »

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Resign-Minister-Sherlock/139427996180177

Someone should post that to his wikipedia page.

Spoonman75 · 29-02-2012 11:58pm

squod wrote: »

Someone should post that to his wikipedia page.

Funnily enough, I checked his wikipedia entry this evening to see if anyone had "edited" it.

ottostreet · 01-03-2012 12:01am

ehhh...

look

FlyingIrishMan · 01-03-2012 12:06am

lol, petition to banish him from Ireland

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-to-banish-sean-sherlock-from-ireland/309590049100766

zef · 01-03-2012 12:15am

http://www.seansherlock.ie/contact-me/

starbelgrade · 01-03-2012 12:15am

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Hilarious. I'm going to pretend you're actually oblivious to what I mean and reiterate that by "Child pornography" I mean "the engagement of children in pornographic acts, recorded (whether via photographic, videographic, or other means) for distribution on the internet".

Child pornography isn't a matter to joke about, so don't even try to.

Despite this, I do not think the bill is a good thing, as it is too invasive, involving tracking ALL data on the internet, and was proposed by the same man as SOPA and PIPA, and was edited to pretty much encapsulate SOPA when it failed.

Now, either make a constructive comment or fuck right off.

I know what child pornography is. I didn't joke about it, I simply made a joke. I can see the difference between the two. If you weren't so busy acting offended then you might have seen that too. I mean, it was fairly fucking obvious.

So get down off your high horse & stop acting like an uppety gobshite.

Killer Wench · 01-03-2012 12:49am

Hmm... so this is interesting to me as an American sitting in the US posting on an Irish message board. I am curious how this will impact the growth of Google's and Youtube's corporate presence in Ireland; can this impact jobs?

starbelgrade · 01-03-2012 12:54am

Killer Wench wrote: »

Hmm... so this is interesting to me as an American sitting in the US posting on an Irish message board. I am curious how this will impact the growth of Google's and Youtube's corporate presence in Ireland; can this impact jobs?

It probably depends on how the law is used. I don't think Sherlock has a clue about the possible ramifications for this, which makes him a complete fuckwit who had nothing more in his mind than trying to make a name for himself.

Well, he's done that now, the goo-bag.

Kylo Ren · 01-03-2012 12:54am

Killer Wench wrote: »

Hmm... so this is interesting to me as an American sitting in the US posting on an Irish message board. I am curious how this will impact the growth of Google's and Youtube's corporate presence in Ireland; can this impact jobs?

When we all jump ship can we live with you? It will only be a few thousand at most.

Sound man!

Killer Wench · 01-03-2012 12:58am

Keno 92 wrote: »

When we all jump ship can we live with you? It will only be a few thousand at most.

Sound man!

Sure, I got room for two more peeps and a dog.

V4 · 01-03-2012 1:12am

How much more can this poxy government crap on us.

Gran Hermano · 01-03-2012 1:21am

Hands up who believed the Chinese were over this month to discuss trade and human rights.. Looks like Enda and his langer buddy were getting tips on Internet censorship from the professionals.

Viral Vector · 01-03-2012 1:58am

A terrible day for Irish politics, any way this can be revoked (without the involvement of the EU)?

I can't understand why Sherlock, a man of this generation, would severly limit our ICT sector, there must have been some "involvement" with Sherlock and the music and film industries!

Lone Stone · 01-03-2012 2:06am

So how about we riot straight to his house ! I have a feeling he was given a large cash sum to push this through given all the valid objections to this and it still gets passed.

Spoonman75 · 01-03-2012 2:08am

Killer Wench wrote: »

Hmm... so this is interesting to me as an American sitting in the US posting on an Irish message board. I am curious how this will impact the growth of Google's and Youtube's corporate presence in Ireland; can this impact jobs?

Yeah it should be interesting to you. Consider Ireland as the litmus test for this law. It's here. Watch this space and see how this all pans out. Learn from it and tell as many of your fellow Americans that this is what happens when these types of laws are enacted in a particular country.

Facebook was founded in 2004. YouTube was founded in 2005.

If this law was enacted in those years would you consider making an Irish version of either websites?

I'd spend my time wondering the point of it.

wonderfulname · 01-03-2012 2:08am

MaxSteele wrote: »

Nice to know we have the EU dictating not only the irish economy, but Irish law and legislation. Sean Sherlock, you wimpy little bureaucratic string of piss.

:mad::mad::mad:

Now now, don't be passing blame, a perfectly sound and acceptable piece of legislation could have been passed to conform to the EUs wishes, this disastrous piece of filth, and the fact it was signed in against the public's wishes, is entirely Sherlock's fault.

Downlinz · 01-03-2012 3:32am

The real appalling thing in all this is the lack of coverage given by the mainstream media. Sad really our national media is this corrupt, no doubt Joe Duffy will be talking about Dublin bins again tomorrow instead of something that actually matters.

curry-muff · 01-03-2012 3:43am

His Facebook Page is a good read, lots of lolworthy posts :pac:

Rei-chan · 01-03-2012 4:45am

Are we actually gonna do anything about this? Some sort of action... So far it's just complaining on the internet.

K-9 · 01-03-2012 5:13am

100,000 internet signatures in the UK (50 Million or so population, 0.2%) gets a debate on the full opening of papers on Hillsborough in Westminster, all sides agreeing to do their best, even Tory toffs and Nottingham and Manchester MP's, setting sporting and social rivalries aside.

80,000 in this great Republic (4 Million population, 2.0%), gets passed anyway, no heed to the public whatsoever.

GrafenPills · 01-03-2012 6:16am

curry-muff wrote: »

His Facebook Page is a good read, lots of lolworthy posts :pac:

He will claim his facebook page was hacked soon.
Giving a a BS story in order to erase those comments. Watch and see.

talkinyite · 01-03-2012 8:26am

It was bound to happen really. Web 2.0 is already here.

cocoshovel · 01-03-2012 8:44am

I find it cringeworthy when I look at his facefriend page and see nothing but 16 year old kids with their guy falks masks thinking they're hilarious with their "meme" generators.
Half of them dont even make sense and are nothing but irrelevant text on some colouredy background with a face. They dont even know the meaning of memes, let alone have the right to vote. /rant

Sherlock confirms that ‘Irish SOPA’ has been signed into law

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