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  • #52
    kc90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    I'll *ahem* take a stab at it:

    Unrealistic sexual expectations?
    Normalisation of violence in sex?

    That's not my experience. Sounds a little like a snuff film. At least you have a reason though. Perhaps the OP does too.


  • #53
    Nemeses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Google 'brain on porn' to educate yourself. I personally don't want kids seeing porn of any kind. And hardcore/ violent porn is now widespread on the net. That's not healthy sexual development education for young teenagers now is it?

    I'm pretty well educated thank you.

    Well, Don't let your kids watch it then.. Its pretty simple isn't it.


  • #54
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    I didn't care when the government made those bank guarantees
    I didn't care when the economy totally imploded
    I didn't care when everybody started losing their jobs

    BUT I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL CUT ANYONE WHO TRIES TO TAKE MY PORN AWAY.

    I WILL CUT YOU DEEP.


  • #55
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    kc90 wrote: »
    That's not my experience. Sounds a little like a snuff film. At least you have a reason though. Perhaps the OP does too.

    Trolling?


  • #56
    kc90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Trolling?

    Is that your admission? I thought it'd take you a little longer.


  • #57
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    Nemeses wrote: »
    I'm pretty well educated thank you.

    Well, Don't let your kids watch it then.. Its pretty simple isn't it.

    I'm not saying you're not educated. I'm saying to read up on this particular area, the science/ research that has been done on its effects especially in very young people. Google 'brain on porn' to find the links.


  • #58
    Hoop66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    **Vai** wrote: »
    Its healthier for those in their late teens to see what happens rather than have it blocked from their lives as used to be the way in this country.

    But "what happens" in porn, isn't remotely like "what happens" in real life.

    This is what I'm talking about - for instance, young men who think the thing to do when you reach climax is to pull out and come on your partner's face.




    Although, there was this one girl...


  • #59
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Nemeses wrote: »
    Sex Education was taught to me at the age of 11 in the school I went too. Should be applied elsewhere. Sex is not a sin! Its normal.

    You're right, sex isn't a sin and it's great that in the school you were in you received sex education at 11 - something that everyone in this country should have but in the main won't because of the Catholic ethos of most schools in this country.

    If there was to be an opt in or out system put in place in this country I'd want it brought in with mandatory sexual education in all schools.


  • #60
    mailforkev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Tbf, it's not about not allowing everyone else access to pornography, everyone would have the option if they wanted to look at pornography or not. You would just have to 'opt in' on whatever device you were using. So, when your teenager gets a new phone, you as the parent could set it to 'opt out'. As much as you try to police your kids with the internet, you're hardly going to be able to stand behind them 24 hours a day.

    I'm with 3 mobile network, at some point years ago I noticed that they were blocking "adult" content. The site I noticed this on actually sold clothes, not porn. I had to make a phone call to opt-in to "adult" content.

    If you have half a clue about computers it's not difficult to keep your kids away from most of it. You'll never block them from everything.

    I was a regular teenager before widespread internet access, I still saw some porn, be it magazines or videos.

    Unless your kid is some kind of porn fiend who as soon as your back is turned is trying any means necessary to access porn. In which case you have probably got bigger problems.


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  • #61
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    kc90 wrote: »
    Is that your admission? I thought it'd take you a little longer.

    Ok you're definitely a troll. An obvious ploy to put me on the defensive while avoiding any real logical statements. Is that how you always debate a subject you know nothing about?


  • #62
    IM0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    or you could just parent your kids properly. kids dont need mobiles or anything with the net on it either. or money [well anymore than a days worth so whatever that is to you] dont ban porn just educate parents they are the problem


  • #63
    JohnMarston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Perspectives wrote: »
    In order to avoid this, I believe all porn should be filtered from the internet, with the option for an adult to 'opt in' if they wish to view porn. This protects our young people and at the same time gives adults a choice, whether to view it or not. I'd like to see this initiative spread across the entire EU.



    About halfway through the vid


  • #64
    LETHAL LADY
    Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    You're right, sex isn't a sin and it's great that in the school you were in you received sex education at 11 - something that everyone in this country should have but in the main won't because of the Catholic ethos of most schools in this country.

    If there was to be an opt in or out system put in place in this country I'd want it brought in with mandatory sexual education in all schools.

    I went to a catholic school and was taught sex ed. in 6th class, granted it was by a 60 something year old nun.


  • #65
    The Clown Man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭The Clown Man


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Young teenagers are being exposed to this material and as adults it's our responsibility to look out for them.

    No, as a PARENT it is YOUR responsibility to look after YOUR children.

    You do not have any responsibility to look after anyone else's children. In fact, it's none of your ****ing business beyond your own four walls.


  • #66
    IM0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    if they took all porn off the net there would only be one site left, and it woulod be called 'bring back the porn'


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  • #67
    **Vai**
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    young men who think the thing to do when you reach climax is to pull out and come on your partner's face.

    Its not???

    Never heard of a face baby so I'll stick with it ;)


  • #68
    Gbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    I'll *ahem* take a stab at it:

    Unrealistic sexual expectations?
    Normalisation of violence in sex?

    Again, not being a ****ty parent is the solution.
    People have managed to get their hands on porn for quite a while before the internet. This won't stop them.

    I generally have a sneaking suspicion that this sort of idea is just moralising about porn masquerading as "won't somebody think of the children" bollocks.

    If you actually want them to have realistic and healthy attitudes to sex it's down to the parent and the education system to fulfill that role. Whether it's in porn or a bunch of lads making **** up about sex they haven't had, the vacuum of information is going to be filled with something.

    That's the problem you see in the US with abstinence only education. We're sexual creatures and trying to go against that is like shouting at the tide to stay out. It's much better (and less infantile) to engage in the discussion of sex and show porn for what it is - meaningless fantasy designed for a quick dose of pleasure - not instructional material.
    If you give kids these tools - and pull your fingers out of your ears about the way reality works in the process - they'll generally be able to deal with this themselves.


  • #69
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    The Clown Man wrote: »
    No, as a PARENT it is YOUR responsibility to look after YOUR children.

    You do not have any responsibility to look after anyone else's children. In fact, it's none of your ****ing business beyond your own four walls.

    Has this strategy worked effectively thus far? If parents block access, which many do, how come so many still have access to porn at a very young age?
    In an ideal world, that would work but it hasn't. That's why Iceland and now the UK are debating it.
    Finally, in case you missed my point:


    ADULTS STILL HAVE ACCESS!!!!!


  • #70
    **Vai**
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Trolling?

    See post 20.

    If you were serious about this topic, it wouldn't be on AH.


  • #71
    **Vai**
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    Well that was a ****ty 1000th post.


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  • #72
    Genghiz Cohen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    The effects of porn on young children?

    Who the **** shows porn to young children?
    Seriously!


  • #73
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    **Vai** wrote: »
    Well that was a ****ty 1000th post.

    I've seen many posts on AH discussed in a serious manner. Have you? I think this overall discussion clearly show's i'm taking this seriously as are the other debaters.


  • #74
    kc90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Ok you're definitely a troll. An obvious ploy to put me on the defensive while avoiding any real logical statements. Is that how you always debate a subject you know nothing about?


    I am genuinely interested as to why you believe porn should be completely inaccessible to teenagers. While I am not in favour of promoting it to younger people, I don't see a huge issue here.

    I do agree with the above posters suggestion of unrealistic expectations, it's not something I would have considered. Do you have nuggets of wisdom that support your view?

    Are you a porn expert? I am not, but neither would I say I know nothing about the subject.

    Reread your own posts before you accuse me of trolling again.


  • #75
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    kc90 wrote: »
    I am genuinely interested as to why you believe porn should be completely inaccessible to teenagers. While I am not in favour of promoting it to younger people, I don't see a huge issue here.

    I do agree with the above posters suggestion of unrealistic expectations, it's not something I would have considered. Do you have nuggets of wisdom that support your view?

    Are you a porn expert? I am not, but neither would I say I know nothing about the subject.

    Reread your own posts before you accuse me of trolling again.

    Absolutely, thanks for this response.

    Enjoy
    http://yourbrainonporn.com/adolescent-brain-meets-highspeed-internet-porn


  • #76
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Oh, the Internet isn't safe for kids. Nor is the motorway. Keep a fecking eye on them, they are your poxy kids.


  • #77
    who the fug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Perspectives wrote: »
    I believe it is only a matter of time before this is implemented. It's already been discussed in the UK. Once the ball gets rolling, it'll be EU wide.

    All liberties are protected, adults will still have access. The reason they are talking about this is former methods to protect kids from seeing porn have failed.

    mummy and daddy will sleep better knowing their darling child has no easy access to porn, because the state has solved the problem


    Cloud ****ing LALA land


  • #78
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    I went to a catholic school and was taught sex ed. in 6th class, granted it was by a 60 something year old nun.

    They only discussion we had pertaining to sex in school was biology in 5th year which frankly is bullsh¡t. Every child needs to have proper sex education. This isn't to abdicate the responsibility of parents - it's paramount that parents give frank, open and age appropriate discussions about these issues throughout their development - but schools would give children the platform to find out through discussions with peers and teachers what is acceptable and how the reality of sex differs from what is presented in pornography.

    Again, an opt in or out system for your own devices or wifi would be another handy tool for a parent to have to help them in curtailing access to hardcore pornography.


  • #79
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Has this strategy worked effectively thus far?

    Its up to parents to you know parent. Trying to sub-contract that out to ISPs is pointless. Also, any block implemented locally or via ISP, can probably be circumvented pretty easily.
    Perspectives wrote: »
    If parents block access, which many do, how come so many still have access to porn at a very young age?

    The blocks aren't hard to get around really. Use a free proxy or the like, and they will get access. So again, the block is largely pointless.
    Perspectives wrote: »
    In an ideal world, that would work but it hasn't. That's why Iceland and now the UK are debating it.

    If such a system were to exist, then it should be an opt-in system. Also, who should pay for the implementation of such a system? The ISP will have to pay, and will probably pass the cost onto the customer, and it will be a system, that will be easily circumvented, resulting in a pointless waste of time, and money.

    I see no reason why I should have to pay, because some parents aren't bothered enough to monitor there children's Internet usage.
    Perspectives wrote: »
    ADULTS STILL HAVE ACCESS!!!!!

    Why should adults have to ask for access? Also, there are potential privacy concerts, as you now have a huge database of people, with information that could be used to embarrass them, and as we have seen with the recent prism revelations (not to mention previous ones), the government will have ready access to this, and if some dodgy sort comes to power in the future, this information could be use against people.


  • #80
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Perspectives wrote: »
    No biko but I like the article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/26/iceland-crackdown-internet-porn

    However, the difference here is the adults can contact their internet provider and ask to be opted into access of porn. Young teenagers are being exposed to this material and as adults it's our responsibility to look out for them.

    I dont think they are being exposed...I'd be pretty certain that they are going searching for it!
    We had porn 20 years ago when I was a teenager, internet or not.


  • #81
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Google 'brain on porn' to educate yourself. I personally don't want kids seeing porn of any kind. And hardcore/ violent porn is now widespread on the net. That's not healthy sexual development education for young teenagers now is it?

    It's mumbo jumbo. There was a thread in tGC that trashed the idea of it.


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  • #82
    IM0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Absolutely, thanks for this response.

    Enjoy
    http://yourbrainonporn.com/adolescent-brain-meets-highspeed-internet-porn

    in fairness the same can be said about a healthy sex life, porn like alcohol CAN be damaging, but that says more about the person than it does about the product. back to the convent with you


  • #83
    The Clown Man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭The Clown Man


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Has this strategy worked effectively thus far? If parents block access, which many do, how come so many still have access to porn at a very young age?
    In an ideal world, that would work but it hasn't. That's why Iceland and now the UK are debating it.
    Finally, in case you missed my point:


    ADULTS STILL HAVE ACCESS!!!!!

    Again, it's none of your business. Protect your own children so they can have a functioning sexual relationship as you define it.

    Personally, I doubt people are going to stop having sex any time soon and I damn sure think that the way we (as a nation) have been conditioned to see sex by our Catholic former overlords is totally, totally wrong.

    I won't insist that you think the same, however. I don't care what you do. You can raise your children however you see fit, but don't presume that you can tell everyone else that you know best.


  • #84
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    IM0 wrote: »
    in fairness the same can be said about a healthy sex life

    Or anything that excites someone really... If someone was really into music, would we have "yourbrainonmusic.coms?"


  • #85
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Enjoy

    On the assumption you are not trolling... which is not an assumption I share based on your posts so far but I will run with it for a moment..... then I do not think linking what is essentially a blog site is going to convince anyone of anything.

    Especially as you have not made any specific claims rather linked to a blog which makes a host of them.

    Perhaps a better approach would be to make a specific claim and back it up to links to actual peer reviewed science.


  • #86
    Perspectives
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Perspectives


    wes wrote: »
    Its up to parents to you know parent. Trying to sub-contract that out to ISPs is pointless. Also, any block implemented locally or via ISP, can probably be circumvented pretty easily.



    The blocks aren't hard to get around really. Use a free proxy or the like, and they will get access. So again, the block is largely pointless.



    If such a system were to exist, then it should be an opt-in system. Also, who should pay for the implementation of such a system? The ISP will have to pay, and will probably pass the cost onto the customer, and it will be a system, that will be easily circumvented, resulting in a pointless waste of time, and money.

    I see no reason why I should have to pay, because some parents aren't bothered enough to monitor there children's Internet usage.



    Why should adults have to ask for access? Also, there are potential privacy concerts, as you now have a huge database of people, with information that could be used to embarrass them, and as we have seen with the recent prism revelations (not to mention previous ones), the government will have ready access to this, and if some dodgy sort comes to power in the future, this information could be use against people.



    Surely if we can send a man to the moon, we must be able to tackle porn on the Internet. This will be an EU wide initiative in the coming years. Lots of resources at hand, something will be developed.
    I agree, privacy must be protected of individuals opting in.


  • #87
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Perspectives wrote: »
    I hope we all agree this can't continue.
    What? Catholic guilt isn't working any more? Tough titty. Sounds like you just want a list of the pervs so that you can lock them up, and/or send propaganda from some random church to "cleanse" them or some such?


  • #88
    IM0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Or anything that excites someone really... If someone was really into music, would we have "yourbrainonmusic.coms?"

    yeah. moderation is the key


  • #89
    Hoop66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Gbear wrote: »
    ...
    People have managed to get their hands on porn for quite a while before the internet. This won't stop them...

    Can I just make clear, I'm not arguing for the introduction of internet controls. I'm much more in favour of responsible parenting, and proper sex-education.

    That said, yes, people have always managed to get their hands on porn, but it is only really since the advent of the internet that such hardcore porn has been so readily available.


  • #90
    kc90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Absolutely, thanks for this response.

    Enjoy
    http://yourbrainonporn.com/adolescent-brain-meets-highspeed-internet-porn

    There's a lot there, I'll have a proper look later. Although, it appears to be mostly opinion linked to unrelated articles.


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  • #91
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Surely if we can send a man to the moon, we must be able to tackle porn on the Internet.

    Sending a man to the moon was a herculean effort, costing a lot of money. Again, I see no reason why I or anyone else should have to pay for this. Parent should do there job and parent.

    Also, to completely block access would need draconian measures, that would obliterate Internet freedom, and quite frankly its not worth losing such freedom, due to lazy parents.
    Perspectives wrote: »
    This will be an EU wide initiative in the coming years. Lots of resources at hand, something will be developed.

    A nasty draconian measures that will destroy Internet freedom. The only way I see this working is complete ban on proxies, VPNs etc. Look, the only way to completely protect children from such material is either good parenting, or banning it all outright.

    Also, again why should we spend all this money on this? Why can't parent do there jobs? I see no compelling reason for all this money to be wasted.
    Perspectives wrote: »
    I agree, privacy must be protected of individuals opting in.

    It won't be, and we have seen that happen already. If people want this, then it should have to imho ask for it, and then pay for the service to the ISP, or buy there own software themselves, or find a open source blocker for free. No need for government involvement.


  • #92
    mcwinning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭mcwinning


    Dreadful idea. Then I would have to leave my lair and actually talk to girls.


  • #93
    who_me
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Won't someone please think of the children single men between the ages of 16 and 35.

    35? Was I supposed to have stopped 5 years ago?

    I must have missed that memo. Thought it was a tissue..


  • #94
    Tiddlypeeps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Has this strategy worked effectively thus far? If parents block access, which many do, how come so many still have access to porn at a very young age?
    In an ideal world, that would work but it hasn't. That's why Iceland and now the UK are debating it.
    Finally, in case you missed my point:


    ADULTS STILL HAVE ACCESS!!!!!

    What you are looking for is impossible.

    All a web provider can do is block a list of known sites (exactly the same as your net nanny software), they need to be aware of them to block them. It's just how the internet works and it's the main reason that any attempts to censor the internet have failed in the past and will always fail in the future. For every site you block several new ones will pop up to replace it. Even existing sites can just buy a new domain name to use with a previously blocked website, it's very little work on their end.

    It's the same kind of thing that's going on at the moment with internet providers being told to block the pirate bay, it's a dumb move because it doesn't change anything. People will still access these things because of the inherent openness of the internet.

    The ONLY way to stop your kid from accessing porn or any other material on the internet that you don't want them to see is to remove internet access from your kid, and even then you can't be around them 24/7 so friends can still show them things on their smart phones and whatever else. The best you can do as mentioned before is educate them and try your best to keep an eye on them when they are using the internet. You can use net nanny software and ad blockers to make sure it's not in their face, but at the end of the day if they want access it they will find a way.

    The only reason Iceland and the UK are even debating this is because politicians are clueless and totally out of touch with reality. They have no idea how the system works so throw out preposterous ideas that are impossible to implement.


  • #95
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    Unrealistic sexual expectations?
    Normalisation of violence in sex?

    I am not sure either of those things are even remotely realistic fears though except... as with everything... in very extreme cases of people who have a tentative attachment to reality already.

    However if one was to start building policy based on that minority group then porn is far from the only thing one would have to turn their eye on. In fact I find myself wondering what would NOT fall under its purview. The X-Files certainly would never have made it to our screens... though I happily concede that would have at least been a benefit of an otherwise insane policy system.
    Hoop66 wrote: »
    But "what happens" in porn, isn't remotely like "what happens" in real life.

    Nor is what happens on the vast majority of our TV programmes and Hollywood movies. None of those things give anyone (except again those with an already tentative grip on sanity) a dangerously unrealistic view of reality either. Further you seem to have this impression...
    Hoop66 wrote: »
    young men who think the thing to do when you reach climax is to pull out and come on your partner's face.

    ... that porn is a one way influence thing where we see porn and attempt to bring what we see into our own lives. The entertainment industry... including porn... does not work that way and it is a two way relationship. It is simplistic to expect that some porn writers came up with facial ejaculation for no reason... stuck it in porn... now men everywhere want to do it. It is in porn because this was something already appealing to the target market.

    In other words the expectations and desires of the market were evaluated and used to design and tailor the porn in a symbiotic two way evolution. Just like it is with any entertainment industry.
    kc90 wrote: »
    I'll have a proper look later. Although, it appears to be mostly opinion linked to unrelated articles.

    That would be a pretty accurate description of it from my experience. And my experience is lengthy given that site is linked to just about every time debate on the subject of porn (and sometimes on the subject of prostitution) comes up.


  • #96
    Nemeses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    Hmm seems like the OP wants to ban freedom on the internet regardless if its porn or whatever the case maybe.

    I want to ban The OPs opinions on boards.ie - We'll get a mod to it ;) See how he likes it....



    Point is, Opinions are fine. However, Other peoples kids looking at porn is the least of my worries.

    I don't really care how unfit a parent is by letting their own sprogs watching porn. Its not my problem but the parents.

    Don't censor my internet freedom with your Gov blocking BS.


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  • #97
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    I'll *ahem* take a stab at it:

    Unrealistic sexual expectations?
    Normalisation of violence in sex?

    >Implying all porn is violent
    >Implying all pornstars are surgically enhanced
    >Implying people can't separate fact from fiction

    Etc etc etc


  • #98
    Hoop66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    >Implying all porn is violent
    >Implying all pornstars are surgically enhanced
    >Implying people can't separate fact from fiction

    Etc etc etc

    I'm not, or certainly didn't intend to. I maintain that these can be effects of exposure to hardcore pornography, especially at a young age.

    Are you saying that porn (not all but a majority) doesn't objectify women, for instance? Or that scenarios presented in porn are "natural"? I'm thinking, as an example, of bizarrely gymnastic sexual positions which are only used so that a camera can get a good view.

    I'm in no way anti-porn, but I do think it presents a warped view of human sexuality which isn't particularly healthy.


  • #99
    AulBiddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭AulBiddy


    I don't think porn should be banned, I think the sex education nowadays should teach kids the difference between real sex and sex in pornography and the consequences of their actions instead of the usual "well here's the man and here's the woman and together they make a baby"


  • #100
    donutheadhomer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    Perspectives wrote: »
    Because porn is so accessible and free on the internet nowadays, even young children/ teenagers are viewing/getting exposed to it. I hope we all agree this can't continue.

    In order to avoid this, I believe all porn should be filtered from the internet, with the option for an adult to 'opt in' if they wish to view porn. This protects our young people and at the same time gives adults a choice, whether to view it or not. I'd like to see this initiative spread across the entire EU.


    perhaps the ISP would be able to block this from their end if custoemrs' opt in


  • #101
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    I'm not, or certainly didn't intend to. I maintain that these can be effects of exposure to hardcore pornography, especially at a young age.

    Are you saying that porn (not all but a majority) doesn't objectify women, for instance? Or that scenarios presented in porn are "natural"? I'm thinking, as an example, of bizarrely gymnastic sexual positions which are only used so that a camera can get a good view.

    I'm in no way anti-porn, but I do think it presents a warped view of human sexuality which isn't particularly healthy.

    Yeah... it's terrible the way women do be objectified, while they are wearing strapons and the lads a bending over in latex crotchless pants....

    Terribly objectifying of women...


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