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Madden NFL 12

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  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭HeartOfTheCity


    I'd be interested in joining the Xbox Online Franchise, if that's cool? Been ghosting here a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Well, I've played a further 3 games tonight and lost them all, but the good news is my defence is improving ten-fold. No longer am I conceding TD after TD from the running game nor am I losing a lot of yards from it either. I've gone from conceding around 35 + points a game to around 20 + points a game which is a good improvement just from using the formations tab as recommended and I'm learning more and more with each game.

    Now my problem seems to be in sorting my offence. I pick throwing plays and 90% of the time it seems that no-one is open for me to pass to, everyone is covered and if I do pass I throw at best an incompletion and usually an interception. If I hold off a bit waiting for my runners to get free I usually get sacked or forced into throwing the ball away. I must be picking the wrong plays I guess? My running game has improved on offense, but my throwing game is still a joke.

    Also, what teams do you lads favour when playing online? I understand that Eagles, Packers and Patriots seem to be the 3 best from looking at the ratings, but obviously they might not be the best to play with compared to others. I've been changing from game to game trying to find which team best suits my game and I reckon the Eagles and the Patriots are the two teams I've performed best with, however, I don't really want to be picking the Eagles all the time as I guess it's the equivalent of people picking Barcelona or Real Madrid on FIFA which does my head in :pac: It also doesn't feel as rewarding when I eventually nail it and start winning games.

    Cheers :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭Professional Griefer


    Paully D wrote: »
    Unfortunately not mate, I'm on Xbox 360.

    I'll play ya some time. I haven't played online, not confident enough yet:(

    And on FIFA sometime, thats my house:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 Coll79


    Frustrating game to play!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭Izy


    markontap wrote: »
    I'd like to get a PS3 league up and running if there's enough interest. I'm sick of watching the Xbox lads have the craic. Here's a list of interest so far. Anyone I've left out?

    markontap
    Tom Brady
    JohnmcDnl
    infacteh
    Rochey18

    I'd play too...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Berty44


    Anyone on the XBox 360. Some of the guys on a site I use have setup an online community. Means when you go on you have loads of guys who play the game the right way and are looking for a friendly. Community even has its own lobby ! Anyone need an invite send me a pm on XBox live, gamertag is same as username on here.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Guys, havent had a chance to get it yet and will now prob be thursday or later.

    How much are you guys getting as a trade in for Madden 11?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    Paully D wrote: »
    Well, I've played a further 3 games tonight and lost them all, but the good news is my defence is improving ten-fold. No longer am I conceding TD after TD from the running game nor am I losing a lot of yards from it either. I've gone from conceding around 35 + points a game to around 20 + points a game which is a good improvement just from using the formations tab as recommended and I'm learning more and more with each game.

    Now my problem seems to be in sorting my offence. I pick throwing plays and 90% of the time it seems that no-one is open for me to pass to, everyone is covered and if I do pass I throw at best an incompletion and usually an interception. If I hold off a bit waiting for my runners to get free I usually get sacked or forced into throwing the ball away. I must be picking the wrong plays I guess? My running game has improved on offense, but my throwing game is still a joke.

    Also, what teams do you lads favour when playing online? I understand that Eagles, Packers and Patriots seem to be the 3 best from looking at the ratings, but obviously they might not be the best to play with compared to others. I've been changing from game to game trying to find which team best suits my game and I reckon the Eagles and the Patriots are the two teams I've performed best with, however, I don't really want to be picking the Eagles all the time as I guess it's the equivalent of people picking Barcelona or Real Madrid on FIFA which does my head in :pac: It also doesn't feel as rewarding when I eventually nail it and start winning games.

    Cheers :)

    what level are you playing on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭markontap


    Guys, havent had a chance to get it yet and will now prob be thursday or later.

    How much are you guys getting as a trade in for Madden 11?

    7 euro store credit in Game Dundrum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭markontap


    Updated PS3 Online Franchise Interest;

    markontap
    Tom Brady
    JohnmcDnl
    infacteh
    Rochey18
    Izy
    Bmcc10

    Cena, we'll be using Madden 12. You're more than welcome to join if/when ya pick it up. I'll give it another few days for people to express interest before we decide whether to go ahead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Lads got €22 euro trade in for Madden 11 in HMV, Madden 12 is €48.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Who the fúck designed these cheerleaders in the game. They're fúcking minging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭empacher


    Im on xbox will have the game in two days, gamertag rizzo412


  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭HeartOfTheCity


    Lads, feel free to add me on Xbox Live - Hoodle84


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    Played 3 games so far - at All-Pro level - and not particularly liking it. Most the problems already named on here.

    They seem to pick off loads of passes whereas your defenders are like statues getting hit in the face.

    It's also become impossible to blitz sides. It's almost like the O-line has about 10 stone more than the defensive backs.

    To be honest, I don't know if I'll bother competing in an online franchise if this keeps up because I'm just not enjoying it as much as the last one. I know it's only early doors but it's frustrating as hell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭HeartOfTheCity


    The trick is the sliders in the Settings, took the below from a post on Operation Sports:

    'If you play on the PRO level use
    Human= 65. CPU= 100.
    Very slow speed. 100 threshold speed

    If you play on ALL PRO level use
    Human= 55. CPU=100
    Slow speed. 100 threshold speed

    If you play on ALL MADDEN level use
    Human= 50 CPU= 100
    Normal speed. 100 threshold speed'

    It sounds simple but it actually works really well. I was somewhere between Pro and All-Pro so set all the human sliders at 60 and it works a treat. No pass rush issues, no ridiculous interception numbers (bar a three pick game with Ryan Mallett) and no games of headers-and-volleys with your own DB's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Only two problems i have found are, have a wideout wide open down the field but either the MLB jumps like Le Bron James and gets a hand to it or ball to long in the air allows any defensive back to get a tackle in.

    The other issue not sure if it is one or not but fumbles played a game there had 7 fumbles in the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    what level are you playing on?

    Only played a few games on Franchise mode on the default level and then moved straight away to online. It's no wonder I'm getting beat all the time but I've got no interest in offline play any more these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    im the same paully its a joke im afraid the whole aspect of offline gaming is gone for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    I'm really in 2 minds as to whether this is going to be worth getting at all... Played 11 and the offline is just boring.. there's nothing interesting at all about it and it's just blehh... The online and multiplayer is great though so it was worth getting for that....

    the update to 12 though looks like it's just going to be a roster update with some nicer pregame presentation (I skip this anyways so I couldn't care less about presentation tbh) so I really dunno whether I'm bothered with getting it...

    I've already got NCAA 12 and I'm loving it so far.. have been playing the Dynasty Mode flat out since I got it and loving every minute of it... so much more rewarding than Franchise mode ever was in Madden.. haven't got to play it online yet because I've just been too lazy to make an American account but I will some of the days...

    I've been reading reviews all evening about the game and I just dunno if it's going to be worth the investment for me... there's a heap of other games coming out around October/November that I'd rather save my €50 for and leave my football gaming this year with NCAA.. unless I can get a huge trade in discount for 11 or find it really cheap somewhere I don't think I'll be going with madden this year..

    just don't think I can justify myself splashing out for what is essentially NCAA 12 but with the NFL roster and teams minus a decent offline mode.. especially seeing as I have 11 if I really do want to have a game with NFL teams...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    bmcc10 wrote: »
    im the same paully its a joke im afraid the whole aspect of offline gaming is gone for me.

    I actually think there's quite a few modes on Madden that would keep the offline gamer ticking over for quite a while, but whatever it is for me I just can't play offline games any more without getting bored very, very quickly.

    The only games I purchase now are sports games that I can play online (Madden, FIFA, NBA2K) or Call of Duty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Playing franchise mode on all pro last night
    Running is very easy while passing is difficult.
    Very opposite of last Madden where there were a few pass plays that had great success.

    Two versions ago they had a feature called Backtrack and Cris Collinsworth would replay your play and point out the open man you missed. Why did they get rid of it :confused:

    And they got rid of The Extra Point, I didn't always watch it but it was nice to have

    These are minor points but for every new version they seem to be taking things away, not keeping them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    johnmcdnl wrote: »
    I'm really in 2 minds as to whether this is going to be worth getting at all... Played 11 and the offline is just boring.. there's nothing interesting at all about it and it's just blehh... The online and multiplayer is great though so it was worth getting for that....

    the update to 12 though looks like it's just going to be a roster update with some nicer pregame presentation (I skip this anyways so I couldn't care less about presentation tbh) so I really dunno whether I'm bothered with getting it...

    I've already got NCAA 12 and I'm loving it so far.. have been playing the Dynasty Mode flat out since I got it and loving every minute of it... so much more rewarding than Franchise mode ever was in Madden.. haven't got to play it online yet because I've just been too lazy to make an American account but I will some of the days...

    I've been reading reviews all evening about the game and I just dunno if it's going to be worth the investment for me... there's a heap of other games coming out around October/November that I'd rather save my €50 for and leave my football gaming this year with NCAA.. unless I can get a huge trade in discount for 11 or find it really cheap somewhere I don't think I'll be going with madden this year..

    just don't think I can justify myself splashing out for what is essentially NCAA 12 but with the NFL roster and teams minus a decent offline mode.. especially seeing as I have 11 if I really do want to have a game with NFL teams...

    Honestly don't get it, it's a waste of 50 quid. The series has gone back several steps with this addition. The game mechanics are pretty much broken anyway. To play as any player in coverage is suicide since the catch and swat buttons are horribly inconsistent no matter how many times you press the button.

    Play action is a joke and does nothing, you NEVER get a bite off the AI they always just drop back into coverage once you snap the ball.

    Running is stupidly easy to the point where you just have to run the ball because passing is so broken.

    Screen plays are also broken.

    QB sneak net's you 4 yards EVER time it's laughable how broken it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    Stev_o wrote: »
    Honestly don't get it, it's a waste of 50 quid. The series has gone back several steps with this addition. The game mechanics are pretty much broken anyway. To play as any player in coverage is suicide since the catch and swat buttons are horribly inconsistent no matter how many times you press the button.

    Play action is a joke and does nothing, you NEVER get a bite off the AI they always just drop back into coverage once you snap the ball.

    Running is stupidly easy to the point where you just have to run the ball because passing is so broken.

    Screen plays are also broken.

    QB sneak net's you 4 yards EVER time it's laughable how broken it is.

    the QB sneak is very annoying, seems there is no way to defend against it Cam Newton ran about 10 times in the first half the other day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Should be on tonight for a game paully if yer still up for it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    just wondering has any of yous played of the virgingaming.com site?i won 5$ from playing madden then entered a fifa tournament with it and won 30$ handy 20quid..


  • Registered Users Posts: 399 ✭✭SeanyMc22


    snip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Slightly confused should this have been a touch back?

    http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/92286670


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Yes, touchback


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Should be on tonight for a game paully if yer still up for it

    Hi mate, I won't be around for a few weeks unfortunately. I still haven't got on to add you but I will and we'll have a game in the future!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭JohnnyRyan99


    If anyone fancies a game in the next while I'll prob be on until the match tonight... GamerTag is PoonTownWarrior

    Xbox 360


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Haven't played Madden sicne the 2010 game... have they fixed the all-madden (sometimes even all-pro) problem of the computer's defensive players with worse than 55 catching ratings, doing one-handed-diving-backwards-on-the-turn-having-changed-direction-right-as-you-threw-the-ball-like-it-was-nothing issue?

    That annoyed the life out of me, especially when your WRs with 90+ catching would drop passes right in their hands, only 10-15 yards down the field. The games were still too easy to win, but that was infuriating at times. You'd have to check it down 9/10 times, or have a passer rating of 80-83 at best!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    I hated this game, but god im loving it now. Just finished my first season in franchise mode and really enjoyed it. Feel its a much better game then last year, still a few things that need a tweek but im sure it will be in the update, hope so anyway.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Think ill go trade in 11 and Black Ops and get it today`


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,218 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The passing game is shocking though. As others have said, a complete reversal of last years where the running game was harder. I'm even having trouble with the Saints Post play which nearly always got me a 1st down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Guys, don't just leave it at "Pro" or "All-Pro" at the global difficulty setting. Go to Player Skill and Computer Skill if you want to make certain aspets of it harder. It really can be fine tuned to your exact level, just takes a lot of trial and error. If you're finding running too easy, there's so many sliders you can adjust in these two options. Well worth the effort it takes to get it spot on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    But isnt that the problem???? You nearly always got a first down? That shouldnt happen. I was throwing INTs all the time, now with Rivers I had I think 8 INTs and just over 4000 yards few behind Manning.
    I just went into practice and got used to the game and I now have no problems throwing the ball.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    If I don't have a soccer match tomorrow I'll be on for a good bit of the day if anyones up for a game on the xbox?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,218 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    But isnt that the problem???? You nearly always got a first down? That shouldnt happen. I was throwing INTs all the time, now with Rivers I had I think 8 INTs and just over 4000 yards few behind Manning.
    I just went into practice and got used to the game and I now have no problems throwing the ball.

    I'd only use it on 3rd downs if I felt I was badly stuck, if I was within 5 yards I'd normally try run the ball for the 1st. Hadn't played Madden before so I was always using Gameplay rather than picking a play myself. If a play came up on 3rd down that I didn't think would work, it was easier to call an audible and go with the Saints Post.

    But the fact remains, the same play in both Madden 11 and 12 giving very different results.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Just bought it..


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Any spots left in online franchise for Xbox? Think I might give it a go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    It's not starting for another week or two niallsparky
    So you're in

    Any preferences on what team you want?


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭Joyce88


    Put me down for the Xbox franchise next week too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 476 ✭✭linebacker52


    if there are anymore places in the xbox franchise i will take one.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    mikemac wrote: »
    It's not starting for another week or two niallsparky
    So you're in

    Any preferences on what team you want?

    Are the Falcons available?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I think the commish has the Falcons

    The commish should be here in a few days organizing it, we'll see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    mikemac wrote: »
    I think the commish has the Falcons

    The commish should be here in a few days organizing it, we'll see

    Are we using the same teams from last year or starting over? Plus is it a draft or real teams?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭JohnnyRyan99


    I would like in on the Xbox league also

    Someone should probably do up a list to keep tabs on all those who want in, as the fantasy football showed this year there's lots more people interested!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    I am absolutely delighted to see so many people joining the league. We will be giving each player first option on the team they had last year and then it'll be open picking. It will be a fantasy draft and I'll post up details on Monday.

    Will probably start a new thread too keep things easier.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    OK, please quote this message and add your name and preferred team if you want in. Anyone who did last year gets first refusal on their own team.

    Adrian522 - 49ers
    Santry
    Berty44
    Raoul
    Raze_them_all - Raiders
    UnitedIrishman
    mikemac
    niallsparky
    helimachopter
    PADRAIC.M - ravens
    Ix Deadmau5
    JohnnyRyan99
    Pyjamarama
    McG
    HeartOfTheCity
    empacher
    niallsparky
    Joyce88
    linebacker52


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