Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

WHAT ABOUT MAH LEGS, CHARLIE MURPHY??!!

1356716

Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    howtomake wrote: »
    Ya know at first it took me awhile to notice what your ritual (use that term loosely) was for setting up, but I see from your edenderry vid you look the bar right/left a few times. I'm only saying because I've been noticing how others set themselves up for the lifts. Anyway just interesting...

    He's checking to see if his grip is set!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭howtomake


    He's checking to see if his grip is set!

    I just find it interesting the little physical cues that everyone seems to do before they do the lift. Like Wayne likes to flex his fingers, and Melanie Roach (my fav) kind of rocks herself into the straightest alignment, like someone put a stick in front of her. I've seen other lifters do the "rock" before but I don't know she just so looks graceful about it. Anyway sorry for hijacking your log Ed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    No worries, hijack away! It's kind of a checklist with some muttering, cues and a threat or two thrown in there. If I get too wound up I'll end up throwin the ****er behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭howtomake


    Do you threaten the bar or yourself or both:D?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭token


    He prays to Sir Isaac Newton to alter the laws of gravity momentarily before he lifts. If he does not comply it is death to all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    howtomake wrote: »
    Do you threaten the bar or yourself or both:D?
    Everything :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: ;)!
    token wrote: »
    He prays to Sir Isaac Newton to alter the laws of gravity momentarily before he lifts. If he does not comply it is death to all.
    He never answers me :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭howtomake


    Have you tried sacrificing a virgin yet? Used to work in the old days, or eat the flesh of your enemy??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    howtomake wrote: »
    Have you tried sacrificing a virgin yet? Used to work in the old days, or eat the flesh of your enemy??

    Can't find any virgins on de nort soide and all my enemies are dead!

    Right, today
    snatched an almighty sixty five entire kilograms for 4 singles. Sore today.

    Back squat: 3 ladders at 115kg, was gettin a bit loose at the end. I'll go to 120 next time but might do 1-2 ladders instead

    Jerk drives: 3x3x115kg, managin to stay upright anyway.

    Pendlays:
    5x3x85kg not too bad. Will try 5x90 next time.

    TONNZZZ: 4640kg, which is about 15% of what an actual weightlifter would do twice a day! Edit: Armanau does 30 tonnes a session, Illin 64 a day. Jebus.

    Think I'll have to train tomorrow as I'm on hairy planes on friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Clean and jerked 85 for ten singles. Jerks not fantastic but they went up.

    Front squat: 3 ladders at 100kg. Thought I was gonna fail every single one of these. Stupid brain. There may have been some grunting here.

    deadlift, 120x3, 130x3, 140x1, 145x 1 1 1 getting tougher to make these look purty.

    Edit: press: 40x5, 45x5

    KURLOVICH: 3x10 at 30. Found one of those curl belts that arnie had in pumping iron. Ridiculous!

    TONNAGE: 5300kg


  • Registered Users Posts: 512 ✭✭✭supposedly


    Dead Ed wrote: »
    Clean and jerked 85 for ten singles. Jerks not fantastic but they went up.

    Front squat: 3 ladders at 100kg. Thought I was gonna fail every single one of these. Stupid brain. There may have been some grunting here.

    Your jerks were actually grand. You asked me to look at them and be very critical and pedantic, so that's what I did.
    What happened your front squats after I left? The first ladder looked great; really easy and fast and demon-free!
    Get it together; you're a mess! :P


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Right, was out getting deaf at spa over the weekend. Feelin a bit funny today.

    Snatch:
    pissed about for a while, went to 40 or 50kg and no amount of stretching any which way or rotational voodoo would sort the shoulders out. Power snatched to 60 odd for a few doubles then.

    Rack jerk: Bleh

    Back squat: 3 ladders at 120, Felt crap but apparently looked ok. Needed some encouragement to do the last rep. 60x10 to cool down

    Situp machine thing: 23kg for 2x10 and 11.5kg for 3x10. not sure about that thing.

    Edit: Split squats (racked in front squat position): 27kg for 3x8. Need to double that and then some.
    Single leg swiss curlz

    4700 kg moved today.

    Gonna have to roll the quadricepus maxi-maxi-maximuses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Clean and jerk: 88kg for ten singles. Not too bad. Some ropey ones towards the end

    Front squat: 105kg, 1-2-1 1
    Bugger. Hams were ****ed today for some reason.

    Pendlays: 80x5, 90x5
    not too bad. Grip is startin to become a factor.

    TONZ: Errr... 2255kg

    Gonna retry the FS at the same weight next time and see what happens.

    Edit: Went to a physio about the shoulder, no impingement, rotator cuff muscles fine. Upper traps are too jacked, I've no mid-back, way too much external rotation (pitcher amounts) and winged-to-**** scapulae that sit too high and wide. This might explain why the snatch receiving position is so crap. Anyway, the pain is in the joint as a result of some compensation of various things when I'm lifting and there's a bunch of crap in there too. Basically need to work postural stuff because I'm lazy and slouch. Got some stuff to do to correct the posture. I'll also have to sit up straight. Might have to work somethin out in the office to help (this probably means that I shouldn't buy that office hammock I was planning :()

    Cycled 56km between things and stuff. Bleh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Trained on friday in york with power clean + jerk (was in jeans+cons) up to 90 to try something. Less leaning with the flat shoes. wandered off for an ale then.

    Gonna try something on monday with stances, different shoes and video them to see if I can figure something out.

    Excessive Banter+abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Forgot me shorts so had to train in jeans, they have some stretch so it wasn't too bad.

    Clean and jerk: 90 for 5 singles, came forward a little. Nearly dislocated my right shoulder on one of them and finished up with a good one.

    Back squattage:
    125 for 3 ladders. That's back to PB territory. Might leave the weight the same for the next session as I think the jeans might have given me a kilo or two! </gear whore>

    Load: 2700

    I'll do some more stuff later if I have time. Stoopid work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Scuba Ste


    Equipped weightlifting, interesting.

    What's this ladder business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Scuba Ste wrote: »
    What's this ladder business.

    1-2-3-1-2-3

    I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭columok


    1-2-3-1-2-3

    I think.

    What kinda rests between 1/2/3? Rerack for 30 seconds and go again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Aye, 1-2-3 is one ladder, I'll add weight if I can get three ladders without blowing an eyeball out on the previous session. It leaves a bit of room to manoeuvre if I feel a bit off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    columok wrote: »
    What kinda rests between 1/2/3? Rerack for 30 seconds and go again?

    As long as it takes to recover!


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭token


    columok wrote: »
    What kinda rests between 1/2/3? Rerack for 30 seconds and go again?

    Look at metcon sally here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    token wrote: »
    Look at metcon sally here
    You know well he stays in after hours working his rebound box jumps and butterfly pullups. I hear he was rejected for the role of the bad guy in this movie:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Right,

    Power clean and power jerk: 5 singles at 80, dropped to 70 to work on speed as I was sluggish on the jerk and did another five singles there, which were all fairly snappy. Power jerk is gone to hell lately for some reason.

    snatches: only around 40 for a triple or two, not much pain today, excellent.

    Front squat, single at 105, realised it was too heavy and dropped to 95 for 3 ladders. Imma roll back to 100 next time. Spent the last few months trying to fight for better positions and it seems to be helping albeit slowly.

    Jerk dips, 105 x3x3, 115x3

    Deadz: 140x2

    TONZ: 4255kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Very slight change of plan.

    Snatch:
    65 for 5 singles, 70 for same

    Power clean + power jerk:
    5 singles at 70, 10 singles at 75. SPEED PLEASE!

    Press: 50kg, 4x(1-2-3-4)

    Snatches ok but hurt like hell when out of position. Felt a bit slow too. More 'habbin, ice and snake oil needed
    PC+PJ: looking for speed here, Don't have a hell of a lot at the moment, fairly crisp but nothing to write home about.
    Press: started doing these again because the last time I had a decent jerk I was pressing with fair volume. Putting them in after snatches because they **** with the snatch.

    Load: 3275kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Hmmmm,
    Squat, 120x1, 125x1 (fugly), 120(fugly), 115 (samez), 110, 2 singles+ a double, one of them looked like a chinaman squat, the others looked like a chinaman's dump. Ooookay

    Pendlayz:
    60x5, 70x5, 80x3x5
    Barry fixed these, my grip was too narrow and I wasn't gettin' the thoracic extension at the top. weight was grand even doing them properly.

    jerk: some messing, nothing mad, trying some things. I can still squat-jerk.

    Split squats: 3x5 a side in t'front rack position with an almighty 37kg, I hate these more than I hate ________

    Realised about three hours after leaving the gym that I destroyed the quadz on the pvc roller at the weekend and the squat went off a cliff a few days after the last time I did that. Hope that explains the embarrassing level of weakness. Now what I should've done is stripped the bar and worked back up again but I forgot. Will have to remind meself to do so if that happens again.

    load: 3210kg methinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Let's see if I can remember this.

    -Clean and jerked 90 for 10 singles, grand, one or two out of place but the rest ok.
    -Power snatched 60 for 6 doubles I think (wasn't really counting). headbutted one of them by accident too, grand.
    -Push press- 5 doubles at 60-65 and 3 doubles at 70

    Load: 3290kg

    Gonna spend a few hours doing band resisted inverted reverse hypers from the ceiling on a swiss ball to match CO'K's load.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭columok


    Dead Ed wrote: »
    You know well he stays in after hours working his rebound box jumps and butterfly pullups. I hear he was rejected for the role of the bad guy in this movie:


    I only spotted this now. Epic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Is that Ernesto Hoost?

    Edit: No. Shut up, Cormac.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Is that Ernesto Hoost?

    Edit: No. Shut up, Cormac.

    Are you suggesting all kickboxers look the same?

    Right:
    front squat:
    3 ladders 100kg. Needs more ghetto booty. Last one a grinder

    DEATH-LIFT (clean stylee):
    3x120, 3x130, 3x140, 2x145
    still not going crazy, beltless and double overhand for the moment. I don't think I like the belt for deads (either that or I wasn't using it properly)

    Split squattage (front rack)
    2x10 with 40kg
    I was gonna do fives but someone told me to do 10.

    Load: 4060, 13835 this week over 4 sessions. Will try to increase this a bit next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Wasn't gonna train today but went in anyway to watch L try to kill himself! Had to lift in cons

    Clean and jerked 85 for three singles I think. shoulder ok
    deficit snatch deads: few triples at 85, not sure about these
    hang power snatch: bunch of doubles and triples with 60kg
    Back squatz: a few singles at 110kg, felt ****e and weak. Hip didn't like the flat shoes
    some other stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Right, it looks like I can do the smug lifts and the shoulder won't be too bad, if I do the rehab and lift within two or three days then I seem to go back to square one as the muscles I'm trying to strengthen are fatigued when I lift, (physio recommended I do them every other day). Gonna concentrate on rehab and squats/pulls and maybe some very light pressing for the next couple of weeks. It's unlikely I'll be able to lift in the Cork open anyway so I'll try to get things sorted for the hercs champs in December and try not be retarded. Hopefully by then I'll be squatting like a chinaman.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Right, damage limitation.
    Power clean, triples
    80-85-88-90
    did a "token" on the last rep at 90 so stopped it there. Would've been fine if I rested enough.

    Back squat (tryin to do it chinaman stylee today)
    3 ladders at 100kg
    didn't bother with the belt because it seems to knock me out of line. Might get rid of the knee sleeves too. Imma start videoing the warmup sets to compare with the work sets next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭token


    Dead Ed wrote: »
    did a "token" on the last rep at 90 so stopped it there.

    Damn. Well it's better than been associated with "clarking" it I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    token wrote: »
    Damn. Well it's better than been associated with "clarking" it I suppose.

    Well the weight does get lifted so it can't be all bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭token


    Dead Ed wrote: »
    Well the weight does get lifted so it can't be all bad.

    Tommy said I was going to injure myself if I kept doing it at Edenderry. He said I'd make a great splitter though :pac:

    I'll stop doing it naturally when my legs are stronger. I used to do it on snatches as well back when I was powersnatching more than full snatch. It was ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Still alive, caught aids or something last week, hillarious levels of fatigue for no apparent reason. Think I'm ok now. Decided to bring in an overhead embargo as doing the rehab stuff along with lifting overhead is causing varying degrees of horribleness in the shoulder capsule. Today:

    Frontal Squatz (zu hause):
    4x9x70kg
    (startin with a low max to ensure the movement would please my communist masters). Cooked me dinner during the rest periods.

    rdl:2x10x70kg 3x70, ham crampage.

    Everything else:
    0 repsx 0 sets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭token


    Dead Ed wrote: »
    4x9

    You is gonna die


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    token wrote: »
    You is gonna die

    Numbers can't kill me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    workin till 2am yesterday so the gym was unlikely. Front squattage:
    5x7x75kg
    Lame. turned into a bit of a filthy westerner for the last two sets. Went back to physio yesterday to get more stuff to decrock myself. apparently the overhead embargo + extra squatting was a good idea. I'll try to get back to doing some pulls and cleans next week if I have more time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    about 100km from the nearest barbell until the morrow. Just did shoulder rehab stuff today. Bastarding things still hurt a fair bit when I wake up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭gstack


    whats the story with your shoulders ed ?
    I know upping my numbers on inverted rows always helps my left shoulder which tends to give me gyp from time to time


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    gstack wrote: »
    whats the story with your shoulders ed ?
    I know upping my numbers on inverted rows always helps my left shoulder which tends to give me gyp from time to time

    Garrett, how are things?! Shoulders have been a bit pissy for a good while but started to get progressively worse over the last year or so. I think it started off with doing too many crappy internally-rotated ring dips and other stupid **** (for time) about two years back, weightlifting seems to have made it worse because of the positions hit. According to the physio, I know the following things are wrong:

    -Waaaay too much external rotation and general joint laxity on both shoulders
    -impinged supraspinatus on both shoulders (he didn't spot it first time out)
    -overactive upper traps and zero residual tension in the lower traps
    -****ty posture (I'm lazy), scaps are too far apart, I can control them fairly ok but there's no residual tension there either
    -something else inside the shoulder capsule itself, it's not a slap tear but hurts like hell when I lift something overhead the wrong way, hopefully it's not too serious.

    Basically I now need to:
    -Activate and strengthen everything responsible for keeping the scaps back and down.
    -get some space for the supraspinatus between the acromium and humeral head and do distraction work
    -stop sitting like a slob!
    -stop lifting overhead
    -get a squat

    I'm not sure if those symptoms have anything to do with the pain in the joint but the rehab stuff seems like a reasonable sledgehammer approach for shoulder health. If that doesn't work I'll have to get it looked at more closely.

    Thanks for the I-row suggestion, I'll start doing them with the prehab stuff soon. The band stuff is still hurting the joint a little so I'll wait until that's calmed down to start them up. I'm pretty pissed off I can't do the lifts but I'd rather fix things up than kill myself trying to go from crap to mediocre!

    Right, back in the land of barbells today:
    Frontal squatttage:

    5x7x80kg

    Not too bad, looking reasonably chinese.

    Dumbell Kurlz:
    3x15x13kg (forgot to go to confession after doing these)

    Single leg dead:
    3x10x24kg
    Hamstring started getting tired on these.

    Assistance stuff is boring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭gstack


    Hey Ed all good still training away
    I have a somewhat similar diagnosis on my left shoulder
    I was told to strengthen the external rotators and tidy up my posture which is also terrible

    What do you find most effective for strengthening the external rotators ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Nothing yet because they're still lazy and weak! I've been told to do standing external rotations with a theraband looped around a door handle, so two or three sets of 12 slow reps with the band. I also do two sets with the humerus abducted (put a foam roller under your armpit and do the rotations like that), apparently the first one targets the teres minor and the second the infraspinatus.

    I was given another one where I put the band around the door handle, pull using both hands with the humerus level with the floor, scaps retracted and rotate up so both fists are pointing at the ceiling, This one wasn't too smart and hurt the shoulders (probably should've used a lighter band). I think W's and cuban presses might be a better idea than that particular exercise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Shoulder not as sore in the mornings, it just seems to click a little and the pain stops, not too shabby. My sleep is broken again though, very broken. 10km worth of errands on the bike today but I took it easy and avoided (most) commuter races.

    Front squattage:
    10x3x85kg
    bored off me hole in the gym and just grunted through these, not too bad looking, hams were still a bit tired though. Having some trouble understanding how 10kg can be added to these on the next run through. Technically it should be possible but it seems a bit of an ask </wuss>

    Pendlayz: 60x5 70x5 80x5
    ouches between scaps. Think I might leave the rehab for when I finish training on training days so it doesn't mess with other stuff.

    Sinful elbow flexor prehab (dumbbells):
    3x10xweight I think they were 15kg, not sure.

    Someone left 140 in the rack so walked it out to get a feel, then did 170. That was interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Front squattage:
    4x9x80kg
    Weird, they looked to be moving fast enough but I was nearly sick doing these. Actually easier than I thought they'd be.

    Shoulder 'hab:
    2 sets of all that stuff. I think every three days is about right for these. three sets seems like too much.

    Still woozy from squats.

    Edit: some shoulder distraction and 3x10 single leg deads with 24kg krazyball.


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭gstack


    Shoulder Distraction ?
    Please enlighten me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    gstack wrote: »
    Shoulder Distraction ?

    He gets Dee to creep up behind him and belt him in the leg to take his mind off his shoulders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    gstack wrote: »
    Shoulder Distraction ?
    Please enlighten me

    I wrap the band around a door handle, hold onto it and kind of pull the body away from the door while relaxing the shoulder so it gets pulled out a bit. I hold it at that tension and maybe move a little, can feel a bit of clunking the odd time. It's for the capsule, I'm not sure what it does though, I'd guess it helps with the slide and glide and maybe breaks up some scar tissue. I'm too lazy to find out what actually happens so do not take my word for it!!

    Right,
    Frontal squattage, in apartment again.
    warmed up with 25 and inside of right knee felt a bit angry, stretched a bunch of stuff and did some more reps. Put the wraps on to keep knees warm but left them loose enough to avoid getting any sneaky kilos. Calmed down eventually...

    5x7x85kg

    Getting a bit tougher now and starting to kick the hips out. I'm too lazy to bother doing anything else this evening. Might try some very light presses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Missed the gym once more so had to squat in the apartment again. Wasn't too happy with the idea of power cleaning 90 in such delicate circumstances so had to make a rack using a pair of plyo boxes and chairs.

    Frontal squatz:
    7x5x90kg

    all sets were hard, upperback started rounding out a bit on the last three sets I think. Gonna do 10x3 on friday then rest for two days before the next run through. The last week looks about as much fun as prison rape.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭howtomake


    Dead Ed wrote: »
    Wasn't too happy with the idea of power cleaning 90 in such delicate circumstances so had to make a rack using a pair of plyo boxes and chairs.


    Oof, DIY home set ups, yes I feel your pain...


Advertisement