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The poll could have been much much more clear.
One can believe in Evolution, and Old Age Creationism at the same time. It's dishonest to say that it is Evolution vs the rest. Many of the others incorporate evolution.
Could have been an honest mistake mind
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I think he was going for a lighthearted joke thread, but it backfired.The poll could have been much much more clear.
One can believe in Evolution, and Old Age Creationism at the same time. It's dishonest to say that it is Evolution vs the rest. Many of the others incorporate evolution.
Could have been an honest mistake mind
Though I am interested to know who voted for "Other" and what that other is.0 -
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The poll could have been much much more clear.
One can believe in Evolution, and Old Age Creationism at the same time. It's dishonest to say that it is Evolution vs the rest. Many of the others incorporate evolution.
Could have been an honest mistake mind
By intelligent design, I created the poll to evolve along this path...I work in mysterious ways.
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Pherekydes wrote: »Looking at our beloved minister for health, the human race stopped evolving several million years ago, so.
Poof goes the evolutionary based theory.
There's a whole theory of how humanity, through medical advances has allowed the 'naturally unfit' not only to continue to exist, but actively breed, thereby weakening the genetic viability of the entire human race. That's where the worthy practice of Eugenics comes in. Maybe the Nazis had some good ideas in there somewhere...
Wow, it took 5 pages to satisfy Godwin's Law, I'm shocked...0 -
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I tldr'd your post in case people don't want to read through the whole thing.
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I tldr'd your post in case people don't want to read through the whole thing
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It would have been a cool cartoon strip if I believed that religion and science were opposed to eachother. Currently I don't. 0 -
It would have been a cool cartoon strip if I believed that religion and science were opposed to eachother. Currently I don't.
I know, semi joking. In all fairness though the 1st half of the comic more or less summarises a common theological argument. The 2nd half pokes fun at that argument. But I do think it raises a valid point.0 -
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Sorry Jackass but there is no evidence of God. Religion is a man made invention. Things done in the name of religion have caused much pain and suffering in the world. Can Man not be trusted to create or own moral code? Do we need one more reason to be at war?
I disagree with you. There is no proof for God's existence of lack thereof. However there is indication for why Christianity is probably true. Many authors deal with these topics and it's just a matter of your own initiative to listen to their arguments. William Lane Craig, Lee Strobel, Allister McGrath, C.S Lewis, Ravi Zacharias amongst other truly brilliant Christian apologists all bring interesting reasons for why God most likely existed and why the Bible is most likely true to the table.
So yes, it's a debate, but that doesn't mean that there aren't strong reasons for believing in Christ in a world that promotes reason and education.
Can man not be trusted to create a moral code? No definitely not given mans track record. I don't think morals are created anyway. I think they exist universally.Most religions preach love thy neighbour but practice love thy neighbour if he believes what you believe.
I like you think that's wrong.Crusades, jihads, holy wars, child abuse and done in the name of one God or another or in the case of the latter covered up by thoes that claim to serve him. I doubt if God exsited he would let
I consider the Crusades to be abhorrent, and many Christians did at the time too according to historical sources. Likewise with child abuse.
These aren't the product of religion anyway, but rather the abuse of religion by man. There are examples where people have abused atheism too.Why not worship Zeus, Thor or any other countless "Gods" for the acient cultures?
I haven't been posed with good reasons to, like I have been for Christianity.Religion is for the closed minded. It's the easy explaination.
Funny how it wasn't until I opened my mind to consider it until I found it for real. After a little more than two years being committed to Christianity I have to say that it certainly isn't the easy path or the easy way out. 0 -
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Earthhorse: Evolutionary biology doesn't say that humans descended from apes, rather that humans and apes have a common ancestor like the fossil that was discovered in Germany recently. This common ancestor changed in two different directions (of course more, but I'm referring in simple terms to humans and apes), one into the apes that we commonly know as primates, and one into homosapiens and so on through very very minor genetic changes over a long period of time. This is what I have grasped anyway. Changes which are to the detriment of the species cause it to die out, leaving only the species with the beneficial changes to survive and adapt to it's environment (This is referred to as natural selection). The argument is that only after millions of years did humans and apes become so different from eachother.
Further evolution in human species has according to current theory given us our regional differences, as people have adapted to their different environments.
Someone feel free to correct if I'm wrong.
You're wrong!
Celebrity German fossil primate 'Ida' died way before the common ancestor of humans and other apes. She was alive almost 50 million years ago (although she's probably now back on Twitter), and the Johnny-come-lately apes didn't show up for another 20 million or so. Humans and chimps only split 5-7 million years ago.
Lemurs, tarsiers, monkeys (old & new world), apes - which include us - are all primates. Yes, bishops are primates too.
And that 'detriment of the species' talk is as near as it gets to heresy in evolution.
The rest, you have grasped correctly. Opposable thumbs be praised!
Here endeth the lesson.
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[/quote]Funny how it wasn't until I opened my mind to consider it until I found it for real. After a little more than two years being committed to Christianity I have to say that it certainly isn't the easy path or the easy way out.[/quote]
In my view I feel that I am open mind in so far as, if I was shown concrete proof of the exsistance of God I would acept it. The majority Christians will believe in God even if they are shown proof to the contry.
This is the only life we have so we'd better make the most of it. We did not have any consciousness before conception nor will there be an afterlife. Carpe Diem.
Christianity as we know it today steams from Medevil ideoligy and is outdated. As more and more people learn to think for themselves less and less will turn to religion.
The most stable countries to live in with the least amount of social disorder are countries where Atheists are in the Majority.
What was it that opened your mind and give you such a strong commitment to Christianity?0 -
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In my view I feel that I am open mind in so far as, if I was shown concrete proof of the exsistance of God I would acept it. The majority Christians will believe in God even if they are shown proof to the contry.
You say that the majority of Christians will believe in God even if they are shown proof to the contrary. How do you know this given that there is currently no proof?This is the only life we have so we'd better make the most of it. We did not have any consciousness before conception nor will there be an afterlife. Carpe Diem.
I don't agree that it is our only life, but what I will say is that we should strive to make it as best for everyone as possible. I don't agree with you on consciousness, or afterlife because you have no means of assessment apart from a hunch. However, why don't you think that people who have faith are making the best of their lives?
This is one thing that comes up a lot. I think by having faith in God I am making the most of my life.Christianity as we know it today steams from Medevil ideoligy and is outdated. As more and more people learn to think for themselves less and less will turn to religion.
I think for myself, and in this independent thought process I decided to follow God. By the by, Christianity as we know it today is based on Judaism just as it was in the first centuryThe most stable countries to live in with the least amount of social disorder are countries where Atheists are in the Majority.
Nonsense. Anyone who says this is picking and choosing. Why does nobody consider China or North Korea in these assessments they make? Interesting bias no?What was it that opened your mind and give you such a strong commitment to Christianity?
Curiosity. I guess that was the primary of many factors.0 -
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