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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭F.U.B.A.R


    grapeape wrote: »
    Some way of stopping back seat mods you can only post on an add if your making an offer or asking a question not just butting in for a chat there are plenty of chat sites for that

    How would you create/implement a system that sensors what people type? Entialy it would need a powerfull form of software that would negate the need for moderaters :) Other then that you could allow the OP full unlimited control of his/her thread but that could also cause more harm then good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Just a Plinker


    Mod firstly thank you for all the haelp, BUT please leave the edit option open on threads, Mine seem to go after a while, As some of us need to shift a bit of gear now and then it would be nice to edit price ? trades etc so it can be seen in the original post,

    Again Thank you all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Mod firstly thank you for all the haelp, BUT please leave the edit option open on threads, Mine seem to go after a while, As some of us need to shift a bit of gear now and then it would be nice to edit price ? trades etc so it can be seen in the original post,

    Again Thank you all

    This is not actually something we can fix as it was discussed before. Its something built into the system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    F.U.B.A.R wrote: »
    How would you create/implement a system that sensors what people type? Entialy it would need a powerfull form of software that would negate the need for moderaters :) Other then that you could allow the OP full unlimited control of his/her thread but that could also cause more harm then good
    Put it in the rules then the OP can report it and if the person keeps doing it (like one or 2 here do ) the mods can deal with them in their own way be it a temp ban or a full ban


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Just a Plinker


    andy_g wrote: »
    This is not actually something we can fix as it was discussed before. Its something built into the system.

    Thanks ANDY It is a pity, but such is life lol

    Rgds mate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭F.U.B.A.R


    grapeape wrote: »
    Put it in the rules then the OP can report it and if the person keeps doing it (like one or 2 here do ) the mods can deal with them in their own way be it a temp ban or a full ban

    Ive seen people been given out to about it and maybe a holiday was awarded aswell but yeah See your point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    grapeape wrote: »
    Some way of stopping back seat mods you can only post on an add if your making an offer or asking a question not just butting in for a chat there are plenty of chat sites for that
    F.U.B.A.R wrote: »
    How would you create/implement a system that sensors what people type? Entialy it would need a powerfull form of software that would negate the need for moderaters :) Other then that you could allow the OP full unlimited control of his/her thread but that could also cause more harm then good
    grapeape wrote: »
    Put it in the rules then the OP can report it and if the person keeps doing it (like one or 2 here do ) the mods can deal with them in their own way be it a temp ban or a full ban
    F.U.B.A.R wrote: »
    Ive seen people been given out to about it and maybe a holiday was awarded aswell but yeah See your point

    All this is already covered under the 'no threadspoiling' rule. Technically 'threadspoiling' covers anything that is not asking a question about what's for sale / wanted and would easily encompass back seat modding. Thankfully we (mods) are entitled to apply common sense and discretion so not all cases need attract 'punishment'.

    I'd never sanction anyone for, for example, politely pointing out the rules to a new user as that's just being helpful. If, on the other hand, two users who should know better were having a rules debate on thread instead of reporting posts as they know they should then that's different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭White Wolf Airsoft


    A live chat because it would help in searching for items Alot because you could say what you want and somebody might have it and they will tell you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    A live chat because it would help in searching for items Alot because you could say what you want and somebody might have it and they will tell you

    This has been discussed before and it cant be done due to the limitations of vbulletian.

    But on the plus side thats what airsoft adverts is for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    is there a way of stopping people from digging up threads by any chance?
    Like have them expire after a certain amount of time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    P4DDY2K11 wrote: »
    is there a way of stopping people from digging up threads by any chance?
    Like have them expire after a certain amount of time.

    It eventually happens. Where an inactive thread drops off the radar and into the archives.

    The reason we pushed for the prefixes of for sale,trade etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭derek84


    How can i change the prefixes of for sale to sold as i cant access the prefixes after a few replies or maybe its just me :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    derek84 wrote: »
    How can i change the prefixes of for sale to sold as i cant access the prefixes after a few replies or maybe its just me :o

    you have to ask a mod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    derek84 wrote: »
    How can i change the prefixes of for sale to sold as i cant access the prefixes after a few replies or maybe its just me :o
    If it's within 48 hours of posting (i.e. you can still edit the first post) then hit edit -> go advanced and you can change it.

    Otherwise, as P4DDY2K11 said, report your own post and we'll sort it for you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭adamj1980


    HI, im only a new comer to boards, and im not on as much as most. But by trying to offer my car sound system as a trade item to hopefully obtain what im looking for, i get defformated as a spammer by a moderator, and im not spamming, just dislexic when it comes to understanding online forums and how they opperate.
    So i suggest that if a moderator has an issue, be it personal or buisness with a particular user, he/she should send a private message, instead of publically hummiliating the person in a forum for all to see, esp if the person is dislexic to to understanding of the online scene as i am, FOrgive my misspellins. Thanks for reading my Sugestion, as its just a sugestion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    adamj1980 wrote: »
    HI, im only a new comer to boards, and im not on as much as most. But by trying to offer my car sound system as a trade item to hopefully obtain what im looking for, i get defformated as a spammer by a moderator, and im not spamming, just dislexic when it comes to understanding online forums and how they opperate.
    So i suggest that if a moderator has an issue, be it personal or buisness with a particular user, he/she should send a private message, instead of publically hummiliating the person in a forum for all to see, esp if the person is dislexic to to understanding of the online scene as i am, FOrgive my misspellins. Thanks for reading my Sugestion, as its just a sugestion.

    As it was me the mod dealing with the situation i'll explain here. First up in the post in question i had never directly called you a spammer I asked you to stop spamming with the same post, it had been posted 11 times.

    Here is what i said qoute taken from the scar h thread
    Adamj1980.

    Please stop spamming the adverts section about a car system as you have posted from a quick check is about 11 times. With the same post.

    If i see another regarding your system it will be treated as spam and you dealt with as a spammer in accordance with site rules.

    Posting about the sound system in one or two threads as a trade is fine, posting it in 11 threads looks very spamy and thus had been reported to the mods via the report post fuction. And I happend to be the mod that was online at the time to deal with it.

    As always if there is a problem with a mod please follow the Dispute Resolution Procedure that can be found at www.boards.ie/dispute
    Andy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭se conman


    Sticky: [RULES OF THE FORUM] Airsoft - Adverts forum charter - MUST READ BEFORE YOU POST
    o1s1n
    My suggestion is to make the above about 5 times bigger as a lot of posters don't seem to be able to see it , this may seem a bit OTT but you Mods have had a hell of a time lately locking threads where it is clear that nobody reads the rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭adamj1980


    Thank you for clearing it up, as I said, due to unfamiliarity to these forum sites, I take full responsibility for the mishap. Thanks and sorry for the confusion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭dinko4gr


    how about a rule on making the wanted threads more specific instead of
    "airsoft gun NOW" "i wants some pewpew" "gief gun" etc ? i can understand someone might be not sure what he wants. but atleast they should be a tad more specific kinda like looking for an m4 variant or looking for an aeg upgraded for less than 300...

    not to forget my all time favorite http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056465609

    no disrespect meant to any person that has posted any of the above but come on ... do a lil bit of search get a feel of what you like/looking for and then post.

    my 2 cents feel free to flame me :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭hrta


    Paul,
    Please list exactly what you have for sale and the asking price / FPS for each item to comply with the forum rules. Auction threads are not allowed, nor is inviting off thread dealing.
    The same rules apply to everyone here.
    Quote from steve, after locking the thread,

    Hi Steve,

    As i have over 5 years of airsoft stuff, even i could not name it all, i did ask a price, as there was more than one item, and some in working order and some not, i did list a price, from this price to this price, all the guns are under 1J, and as i said, some were working and some not, and i had to many items to list, and i would had more to answer more post's, so i kept the listing sort, so as not to upset other posters, and spoil the sale's threads.
    And were did i inviting off thread dealing, i said, no posting any items, come out to me at the site, and pay for it, and take it away, and the price's i listed, were way under any price ever listed for the items, that i listed.

    Regards,
    Paul.
    Sorry Steve, your right, i didn't list a price, only checked it there now, so sorry again.

    Just checked it again, i did put up the price's, post 20 http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=75866689&postcount=20

    Regards,

    Paul.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭THE MINDER


    What do we do with the likes of-
    1-Timewasters especially those who ask relentless questions with no real intent:rolleyes:
    2 Those who make offers(bringing down asking)then telling you they will have the money in a month or two leaving you with a new but lower asking price:(-stuff like that:confused::confused:
    3 People PM as sold but not following up on first pms even with a pm to pull out:(
    4 People following up on pm's bit then not turning up to meet:mad::mad::mad:

    And on and on it goes-I'd like to do a name and shame section:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 878 ✭✭✭c28omzk7ihsxv0


    THE MINDER wrote: »
    What do we do with the likes of-
    1-Timewasters especially those who ask relentless questions with no real intent:rolleyes:
    2 Those who make offers(bringing down asking)then telling you they will have the money in a month or two leaving you with a new but lower asking price:(-stuff like that:confused::confused:
    3 People PM as sold but not following up on first pms even with a pm to pull out:(
    4 People following up on pm's bit then not turning up to meet:mad::mad::mad:

    And on and on it goes-I'd like to do a name and shame section:eek:
    This exactly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭thermo


    THE MINDER wrote: »
    What do we do with the likes of-
    1-Timewasters especially those who ask relentless questions with no real intent:rolleyes:
    2 Those who make offers(bringing down asking)then telling you they will have the money in a month or two leaving you with a new but lower asking price:(-stuff like that:confused::confused:
    3 People PM as sold but not following up on first pms even with a pm to pull out:(
    4 People following up on pm's bit then not turning up to meet:mad::mad::mad:

    And on and on it goes-I'd like to do a name and shame section:eek:
    at the moment the only thing you can do is use the feedback thread, its not just for backslapping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭glicster


    With regards to the above post could a poll be arranged to see if members would want a Name And Shame thread?
    I would be 99% more likely to check a Name & Shame thread than I would the Adverts Feedback for the reputation of a perspective buyer.
    The Feedback thread is for experiances of a sale/purchase after it has taken place and although you could post about timewasters Im not too sure many would bother searching as more often than not the posts in Feedback are of good experiances.
    A dedicated Name & Shame thread would be easy to search,would be easly seen when there was a new post(everybody would be curious as to who it was) and act as a deterrant to lads,who may in the future actually have the cash to make purchases,from posting in an advert when they know they cant complete the deal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭THE MINDER


    With regards to the same issue-I've tons of new stuff that I think yeah that wud be great for a project but then dont use it-given guys the chance to pick up a bit of good gear on the cheap-that been said with all the messing about I'm disinclined to post-giving it away for half nothing and then what?? loads of irritation'I'll always try give a good deal(within reason) but in all honesty i dont have the patience(anybody got any up for grabs:)) to deal with what are generally the usual culprits-I would'n want to be totally negative-there are some great users out there that are geuinely a pleasure to deal with-others when there name appears on your thread a certain expletive(Which I wont mention) comes straight to mind! Is it possible to set up an 'ignore list' for adverts section where these guys just dont get in??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    hrta wrote: »
    Paul,
    Please list exactly what you have for sale and the asking price / FPS for each item to comply with the forum rules. Auction threads are not allowed, nor is inviting off thread dealing.
    The same rules apply to everyone here.
    Quote from steve, after locking the thread,

    Hi Steve,

    As i have over 5 years of airsoft stuff, even i could not name it all, i did ask a price, as there was more than one item, and some in working order and some not, i did list a price, from this price to this price, all the guns are under 1J, and as i said, some were working and some not, and i had to many items to list, and i would had more to answer more post's, so i kept the listing sort, so as not to upset other posters, and spoil the sale's threads.
    And were did i inviting off thread dealing, i said, no posting any items, come out to me at the site, and pay for it, and take it away, and the price's i listed, were way under any price ever listed for the items, that i listed.

    Regards,
    Paul.
    Sorry Steve, your right, i didn't list a price, only checked it there now, so sorry again.

    Just checked it again, i did put up the price's, post 20 http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=75866689&postcount=20

    Regards,

    Paul.
    The rules apply to everyone equally - if someone else was given preferential treatment then you wouldn't be long pointing it out :)
    List your stuff with energy ratings (even if it's a general declaration the it's below 1J) and have an asking price for anything listed just like everyone else has to.
    What you posted was, in effect, 'stuff for sale, come to my place and have a look' which is equavilent to free commercial advertising - not gonna happen, sorry.
    THE MINDER wrote: »
    What do we do with the likes of-
    1-Timewasters especially those who ask relentless questions with no real intent:rolleyes:
    2 Those who make offers(bringing down asking)then telling you they will have the money in a month or two leaving you with a new but lower asking price:(-stuff like that:confused::confused:
    3 People PM as sold but not following up on first pms even with a pm to pull out:(
    4 People following up on pm's bit then not turning up to meet:mad::mad::mad:

    And on and on it goes-I'd like to do a name and shame section:eek:
    What do you do? report them - if they're taking the proverbial then we'll deal with them... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭sharpy2010


    I dunno has it been mentioned but probably has been and I know you are limited by software issues but using current software any one can already click on a user see how active they are, how many threads they have thanked etc. So using an eBay style could you not make it so that on a "for sale or trade" thread that when a guy gets thanked for being a good seller/buyer show up on that persons personal account. I know we have the feedback thread to do something similar but as a few have stated it's alot of work and searching to find a post if someone has even bothered to write one cos I've personally left a few for people I've bought off (and I've done nothing but buy off her! But havent sold anything yet!) but to the best of my knowledge no one has left me a feedback message as a good buyer.
    so what I'm saying is that if it was as simple as hitting a thank you button that already exists to give people a better rating,then people would do that more. Many people thanks posts all the time cos it's clicking a button instead of having to fill out a form


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭Jsmurff


    I can see a problem on that already :) How many people get thanked for ansewring questions in a happily polite manor? even the ebay system doesnt work unless the buyer/seller has a flawless record Ive been screwd by plenty of 98 and 99% rated trader's it just wont work and I doubt it could be programed/ setup within the perameters of V-bulliten software :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭The_Joker


    THE MINDER wrote: »
    What do we do with the likes of-
    1-Timewasters especially those who ask relentless questions with no real intent:rolleyes:
    2 Those who make offers(bringing down asking)then telling you they will have the money in a month or two leaving you with a new but lower asking price:(-stuff like that:confused::confused:
    3 People PM as sold but not following up on first pms even with a pm to pull out:(
    4 People following up on pm's bit then not turning up to meet:mad::mad::mad:

    And on and on it goes-I'd like to do a name and shame section:eek:

    Here's the solution.....meet our new mod
    Chuck (No warnings, bans or second chances) Norris :D
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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Aezur


    Two seperate forums for wanted and selling would improve things IMO.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭dinko4gr


    could we get a PC ( Price check ) thread running ? to avoid new people in airsoft getting bend over from people like this? i know its common sense to look before your buy but its not always the case. Or if thats too much hassle could we have a rule that says on a selling post we can post a link to an Irish retailer that sells the same product NEW,IN STOCK and CHEAPER than the current seller, without been considered thread spoiling ? Some people might do it on purpose,while some may just not know. Still not a reason to allow anyone to be ripped off.


    No offence to to the OP of the mentioned post. He looks like he is not very familiar with the sport and pricing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    dinko4gr wrote: »
    could we get a PC ( Price check ) thread running ? to avoid new people in airsoft getting bend over from people like this? i know its common sense to look before your buy but its not always the case. Or if thats too much hassle could we have a rule that says on a selling post we can post a link to an Irish retailer that sells the same product NEW,IN STOCK and CHEAPER than the current seller, without been considered thread spoiling ? Some people might do it on purpose,while some may just not know. Still not a reason to allow anyone to be ripped off.


    No offence to to the OP of the mentioned post. He looks like he is not very familiar with the sport and pricing.
    I mooted the idea of a price check thread some time ago but there was little support for it, in fact there was more opposition than support so unless the general consensus changes then no, we can't get one.

    In the case you linked, it's acceptable (and not a thread spoil) to post a link to a source where you can get the exact same item, including delivery to the same place in Ireland, and is inclusive of all taxes and import duties if applicable in order to justify an offer that you are posting.

    It is not acceptable to post a link to a similar but *slightly* different item or to post a link to a price on, for example, a foreign site where the cost of importing it and probably downgrading it to make it legal is not included.

    If in any doubt, report the post, include the link to the item you found in the report and mods can either decide that it is not a valid comparison or it's valid and we'll post the link on the thread as a general unbiased 'beware' for all to see - that way nobody can be accused of threadspoiling. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,748 ✭✭✭DeBurca


    I wonder if anything can be done to stop the resent glut of so called “WANTED” ads
    Most of these are being used as a means of getting around the duplicate post rule

    For example a posted has FOR SALE a bunch of old tat some batteries a few mags a broken red dot etc and after many attempts and numerous BUMPS then placed a WANTED ad for maybe a MP5 but only offering the bunch of tat or AEG that nobody wants as they have no cash
    A few days later they want a SMG and then a G3 a few day later a M4 and on it goes and all that is on offer is the same load of old tat or knackered AK or sniper rifle etc
    The same thing is being done for a long running ad when trying to sell an AEG, Pistol, Rifle etc and often they run their WANTED ad in parallel to the original FOR SALE/TRADE ad often bumping one after the other you can see this almost every day
    I had such a poster the other day looking for an M4 and after I and a few more took the time to respond he works his way down the list replying to each in turn
    In response to the post above mine he says that has no money and then when responding to me asks how much do I want for mine, I have to tell you I was not amused

    Then there are the posters who place wanted ads and yet have no money and on occasions have got a seller to reduce the asking price before announcing that they do not have the CASH
    Only the other day a guy places a “WANTED” ad for a M9 mag and gets a reply and after a bit of haggling get the price reduced from €30 down to €25 for the mag posted, now here is the good bit he then announces that he does not have the cash
    Now I know that there is a recession on and a lot of people are a bit short of cash but for god sake if you don’t have the funds then for pity sake don’t post

    Yes I know that this sounds like a RANT and it is but can nothing be done to curb the enthusiasm of these posters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    DeBurca wrote: »
    I wonder if anything can be done to stop the resent glut of so called “WANTED” ads
    Most of these are being used as a means of getting around the duplicate post rule

    For example a posted has FOR SALE a bunch of old tat some batteries a few mags a broken red dot etc and after many attempts and numerous BUMPS then placed a WANTED ad for maybe a MP5 but only offering the bunch of tat or AEG that nobody wants as they have no cash
    A few days later they want a SMG and then a G3 a few day later a M4 and on it goes and all that is on offer is the same load of old tat or knackered AK or sniper rifle etc
    The same thing is being done for a long running ad when trying to sell an AEG, Pistol, Rifle etc and often they run their WANTED ad in parallel to the original FOR SALE/TRADE ad often bumping one after the other you can see this almost every day
    I had such a poster the other day looking for an M4 and after I and a few more took the time to respond he works his way down the list replying to each in turn
    In response to the post above mine he says that has no money and then when responding to me asks how much do I want for mine, I have to tell you I was not amused

    Then there are the posters who place wanted ads and yet have no money and on occasions have got a seller to reduce the asking price before announcing that they do not have the CASH
    Only the other day a guy places a “WANTED” ad for a M9 mag and gets a reply and after a bit of haggling get the price reduced from €30 down to €25 for the mag posted, now here is the good bit he then announces that he does not have the cash
    Now I know that there is a recession on and a lot of people are a bit short of cash but for god sake if you don’t have the funds then for pity sake don’t post

    Yes I know that this sounds like a RANT and it is but can nothing be done to curb the enthusiasm of these posters
    What he said (just too lazy to type it all):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭bullets


    folks I'd like to request that people selling things will list if they are willing to Post Items (or not) and are willing to take payment options like paypal as part of the information when they are posting.

    I can understand if someone are not willing to post or cannot accept paypal
    but please fer feck's sake let a potential buyer know on your for sale thread
    up front. for the seller it only means writing an extra line of text in yer posts!!!

    I'm sick and tired of seeing fantastic bargains on adverts only to
    see absolutely no information if the seller is willing to send the item via post and are willing to accept paypal/postal order etc.

    I've often been in the situation where I've wanted something, have been more than willing to offer the asking price without any haggleing and also willing to pay for all postage and any additional paypal fees.

    ~B


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 dekop


    I know stopping spam is a good idea, but having to post 50 messages just to gain access to the footy forum is a bit much, as well as having to wait a month, big turn off, :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭thermo


    dekop wrote: »
    I know stopping spam is a good idea, but having to post 50 messages just to gain access to the footy forum is a bit much, as well as having to wait a month, big turn off, :mad:
    this is not the football forum :D



    ps is this one of your 50 posts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    THE MINDER wrote: »
    What do we do with the likes of-
    1-Timewasters especially those who ask relentless questions with no real intent:rolleyes:
    2 Those who make offers(bringing down asking)then telling you they will have the money in a month or two leaving you with a new but lower asking price:(-stuff like that:confused::confused:
    3 People PM as sold but not following up on first pms even with a pm to pull out:(
    4 People following up on pm's bit then not turning up to meet:mad::mad::mad:

    And on and on it goes-I'd like to do a name and shame section:eek:
    I agree totally with THE MINDER its so annoying when they get you to drop the price and then you dont hear from them. The mods do a great job but their hands are tied on somethings like i know of at least 10 people that have changed their names on this but it cant be proven within boards.ie rules so the Mods can do nothing Its time either a name and shame thread was set up or a lock put on the adverts section to stop the renaming and time wasters after a week of a thread im taking them down unsold because im sick of time wasters. Im starting to rant like Deburca :D so ill leave it at that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭war_child


    I would ask the Mods for a solution to the very serious business of complaining ...mostly by sellers who use this forum for one thing only selling items for a mark up on what they bought them for from another Airsofter, Im so sick and tired of these lads complaing about delayed payments and non meeting ...if you want to sell gear please rent a small property and sell thru those means. Half of the time you buy a piece of equipment and it doesnt stand up to what was described ......its a sinking ship and i didnt invite the rainy day mate ...i just own the best umbrella ..which is why i can see this becoming a huge problem ...no one will buy from whineing moaning sellers who want items bought at this time on this day of this month and they have to understand were gamers but we also have lives and that always takes precedence ...i have a great new camo barrett ...but im living on the street ...seriously lads its a big thing but never brought up.

    Many Thanks

    War-child


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭war_child


    id just like to share an observation ive had regarding certain mods on the airsoft forums ....in the link i will post it seems the mods are more comfortable handing out warnings and infractions , as indicated by the following link the op indicates twice he is having trouble posting pictures of his saleable item , but to his and my own dismay the mod never steps in to help with the process, instead opts to adopt the tyranical posturing of i am MOD hear me roar by warning and snipping never once offering assistance ..should we moderate the mods or would be moderated for moderating the moderators where does it end.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056610232

    Whilst i understand that some of your mods are volunteers offering their time freely are they not still a representative of Boards.ie and bad feeling towards individuals flexing their muscles would ultimatly reflect badly on Boards itself.

    Thanks for Reading

    War_child


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker


    Sorry, but I would not agree at all with this observation.

    Firstly I think the Airsoft Mods all do a great job and all Moderators are volunteers, so have a life away from boards.

    The thread you picked showed a poster list an item for sale at 13:40 and a bump just 4 hours later at 17:41. Poster joined Boards.ie 4 months before that post, so not a noob.

    A Mod advised that 24 hours is the minimum between bump posts and that poster should read charter.

    Poster is back 3 hours later asking how to posts pics. That is a question for the help desk not the Airsoft forum. Or the poster could have PM'ed a Mod re posting pics.

    Less then 24 hours later and poster is back with another "bump". So they obvisously chose to ignore a warning from a forum moderator. Never a good thing to do. A cynic might see this as a way of bumping a post back up to the top of the first page ;)

    They had been warned already, so they got a yellow card, which is just like a tap on the shoulder to say "you were already told about bumping". Poster didn't get infracted or banned, so I really don't see what the issue here is.

    Then the poster wants to start "facebooking" another member re the item for sale, so off thread dealing and showning that the advice to read the forum charter was indeed ignored.

    You honestly think this poster was hard done by???

    I don't think any of the Airsoft Mods could be accused of using their "Mod Powers" too freely tbh. The amount of BOLD Type posts or the issuing of infractions or bans from the Mods are fairly sparse and IMHO I have never seen one that was not warranted.

    A Mods job is to keep their forums ticking over and keep the peace. It is not that of a babysitter.
    war_child wrote: »
    id just like to share an observation ive had regarding certain mods on the airsoft forums ....in the link i will post it seems the mods are more comfortable handing out warnings and infractions , as indicated by the following link the op indicates twice he is having trouble posting pictures of his saleable item , but to his and my own dismay the mod never steps in to help with the process, instead opts to adopt the tyranical posturing of i am MOD hear me roar by warning and snipping never once offering assistance ..should we moderate the mods or would be moderated for moderating the moderators where does it end.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056610232

    Whilst i understand that some of your mods are volunteers offering their time freely are they not still a representative of Boards.ie and bad feeling towards individuals flexing their muscles would ultimatly reflect badly on Boards itself.

    Thanks for Reading

    War_child


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭war_child


    Sorry, but I would not agree at all with this observation.

    Firstly I think the Airsoft Mods all do a great job and all Moderators are volunteers, so have a life away from boards.

    The thread you picked showed a poster list an item for sale at 13:40 and a bump just 4 hours later at 17:41. Poster joined Boards.ie 4 months before that post, so not a noob.

    A Mod advised that 24 hours is the minimum between bump posts and that poster should read charter.

    Poster is back 3 hours later asking how to posts pics. That is a question for the help desk not the Airsoft forum. Or the poster could have PM'ed a Mod re posting pics.

    Less then 24 hours later and poster is back with another "bump". So they obvisously chose to ignore a warning from a forum moderator. Never a good thing to do. A cynic might see this as a way of bumping a post back up to the top of the first page wink.gif

    They had been warned already, so they got a yellow card, which is just like a tap on the shoulder to say "you were already told about bumping". Poster didn't get infracted or banned, so I really don't see what the issue here is.

    Then the poster wants to start "facebooking" another member re the item for sale, so off thread dealing and showning that the advice to read the forum charter was indeed ignored.

    You honestly think this poster was hard done by???

    I don't think any of the Airsoft Mods could be accused of using their "Mod Powers" too freely tbh. The amount of BOLD Type posts or the issuing of infractions or bans from the Mods are fairly sparse and IMHO I have never seen one that was not warranted.

    A Mods job is to keep their forums ticking over and keep the peace. It is not that of a babysitter



    Firstly Tommy i said it was an observation and i used one example there have been more but to take time from my day to copy and paste them all in to one comment is something i am unwiling to do.

    My point i was making was instead of using the mod powers to infract or even to warn would it not have been more productive to assist the person in question in getting their pictures up so HE DIDNT have to use facebook to see the picture.

    And as you pointed out "A Mods job is to keep their forums ticking over and keep the peace." In that very sentence you point out a mods role on his forum and surely assistance is part of that remit. And by using the word babysit, not once did i say he had to walk him thru each and every step maybe he was trying to load from phone or maybe some other form of device that wouldnt allow in which the moderator could have easily pointed out this fact...

    And to end in Answer to your question of him being hard done by ...in regards to the bumping no ....but in regards to the facebook comment i think yes ..As with assistance from the mod there would have been no need to take the item off thread for the simple purpose of viewing ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Thank you for the feedback war_child, duly noted.
    war_child wrote: »
    Firstly Tommy i said it was an observation and i used one example there have been more but to take time from my day to copy and paste them all in to one comment is something i am unwiling to do.
    I have a problem with that comment and it is this:
    You (in general) expect mods to be at your beck and call to help you out with stuff - which we do on a daily basis - yet you (in particular) are choosing to give feedback in a very general manner because you can't be bothered to take time out to go and collect a few examples of what you are talking about.

    Look, mods are volunteers here, we do this in our spare time, we go to great lengths to investigate every reported post and try and deal with it in as fair a manner as we can. We don't claim to be internet 'gods' and we certainly don't claim to never get things wrong - we do - and we deal with that.

    All I'm asking here is that if you want to be critical of all the time we put in here then please put some effort in to make a valid case - if you are (as you admitted above) unwilling to do that then, respectfully, please keep your generalisations to yourself. :)

    If you truly have a grievance with any of the mods here then you should make contact with a cmod and raise the issue with them.

    If, however, there is something that we can fix locally then this is the place for it - but - as I said - you need to take some time and present some facts.

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭war_child


    appreciate your response steve ...and regards to the beck and call comment i move that Boards.ie facilitate the people who use this site with greater power in editing their specific adverts

    ...as while this is a forum the items being sold are personal therefore the sole property of those advertising so by association the advert they place should be treated as such ...by offering (US) the postee the option to edit our threads and particularly the heading and also the status which is what i have had personal difficulty with would free moderators up to keep their forums running smoothly ...As you have pointed out your time is donated and obviously you have lives outside of boards ..but having to wait for a mod to come on to rectify simple things that should be made available to the person who posts restrains the speed in which items can be sold.

    But thankfully as my last thread is now closed and i no longer have anything i need to buy or sell in regards to airsoft i am quite happy to say you may continue on your happy way of modding as it does not affect me at all.

    Be good
    war_child


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    The 'editing your own thread' permission time-out is a feature of vBulletin, the software behind boards.ie, and is a site-wide setting so there's not much we can do about that.

    We can only do our best to keep the forum running within the limitations of the framework we have. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭adamj1980


    Just a suggestion, why not set an iPhone app, where people who dnt have instant access to a laptop, can access the forum and also upload pics, the current system doesnt allow it when your using a phone.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭Private Snafu


    adamj1980 wrote: »
    Just a suggestion, why not set an iPhone app, where people who dnt have instant access to a laptop, can access the forum and also upload pics, the current system doesnt allow it when your using a phone.?

    Why not use something like the photobucket app to upload photos?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭adamj1980


    adamj1980 wrote: »
    Just a suggestion, why not set an iPhone app, where people who dnt have instant access to a laptop, can access the forum and also upload pics, the current system doesnt allow it when your using a phone.?

    Why not use something like the photobucket app to upload photos?
    Tried it, doesn't work, keeps shutting off when I try and register.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭Private Snafu


    imageshack also have an app (albeit not as slick as photobucket).

    Or you could register online with photobucket first :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    adamj1980 wrote: »
    Just a suggestion, why not set an iPhone app, where people who dnt have instant access to a laptop, can access the forum and also upload pics, the current system doesnt allow it when your using a phone.?
    I've heard that the boards developers may have something in the pipeline for this but it's probably a long way off, not sure where it would be on their list of priorities.
    In the meantime, if you're using a mobile that doesn't allow you post pics then pm a mod, we now have a means to accommodate that.


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