So I bought another classic boat

fergal.b · 11-12-2013 5:15pm

I spent a bit more than I wanted to on this but the boat does look kind of Christmassy

I had to sell a 65 hp mercury to pay for it

but the guy's in http://www.parnells.ie/parnell.swf looked after me well big thumbs up to them great service.
As it's a motorbike trailer it will need a few bit's and pieces to get right but all in all it should do the job.

Stheno · 11-12-2013 9:47pm

That looks fab!

breghall · 11-12-2013 10:29pm

top notch work as usual Fergal.. going to be interesting to see how you sort the trailer out

fergal.b · 22-01-2014 8:59pm

Busy day today on the boats

made a seat fitted the windshield, bow handle and a bit of chrome trim.

insebayguy · 23-01-2014 6:03pm

I've definitely dropped the ball in recent times with regard to stalking you Fergal. Will be making up for that though, keeping a close eye on this thread. That little boat looks superb fella.

HeidiHeidi · 23-01-2014 6:14pm

That is so CUTE!!!

Please let us know when it's going to be out on the water - never mind stalking him on this forum, I want to stalk him in real life and see that little thing afloat

fergal.b · 23-01-2014 7:41pm

I might do a Liffey run in her or a spin down the canals, it will be a site to see alright as I'm 6'4" and make it look like a sail boat.

All stalkers welcome here insebayguy

Conchir · 23-01-2014 11:11pm

You've really done something special with this, especially the colour scheme. Well done

fergal.b · 21-04-2014 8:52pm

I think I may have found a simple way to connect up the steering

after spending a bit of time making up different brackets to connect the engine to the steering link I noticed a little hole that was plugged next to the choke so I just bolted the balljoint end of the link arm straight in with a spacer to bring it out passed the choke leaver and it works a charm "must be something wrong":)

HeidiHeidi · 21-04-2014 8:56pm

That is so far over my head, it's suffering altitude-sickness

But can I just say, what a seriously cool-looking engine!

(and I bet it's more reliable than ours :mad:)

fergal.b wrote: »

I think I may have found a simple way to connect up the steering after spending a bit of time making up different brackets to connect the engine to the steering link I noticed a little hole that was plugged next to the choke so I just bolted the balljoint end of the link arm straight in with a spacer to bring it out passed the choke leaver and it works a charm "must be something wrong":)

fergal.b · 17-05-2014 7:09pm

A very little video of the very little boat

Vexorg · 17-05-2014 8:03pm

Looks great Fergal, how does handle on the water?

fergal.b · 17-05-2014 8:37pm

She's not bad better than I though she would be, you can get on the plane by moving your backside forward

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miss no stars · 17-05-2014 8:58pm

fergal.b · 17-05-2014 10:33pm

I only know of two others that have survived and one of them is a family Heirloom but if I put her up for sale you will be the first to know

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pedroeibar1 · 18-05-2014 6:19pm

Now I know who robbed the badge from my car's bonnet!
(just kidd'n)
Well done, she looks cool, now you nned to get a two-tone red-white MGA to tow her!

fergal.b · 10-11-2014 7:39pm

I just picked up this little johnson that I think I will do up in the red and white colours to match the boat it should look a bit better than the merc.

fergal.b · 10-04-2015 9:43pm

This one is a little bit smaller again

she is an old R/C steamliner by Kyosho it's missing some hardwear and a windshield among other bits and prices of the R/C it also has a broken rudder and antenna but I sure I can bring some sort of life into her

fergal.b · 06-03-2016 10:42am

miss no stars wrote: »

Well I found my next project "boy o boy what a project" so my baby will be going up for sale in the next few days

you have first refusal as promised

insebayguy · 07-03-2016 4:50pm

I sensed something was in the pipeline between posts on Facebook then the vid on YouTube. Looks like my miserable existence has some meaning again ðŸ˜œðŸ‘ðŸ¼ can't wait to see how this one unfolds

fergal.b · 07-03-2016 5:16pm

insebayguy wrote: »

I sensed something was in the pipeline between posts on Facebook then the vid on YouTube. Looks like my miserable existence has some meaning again ðŸ˜œðŸ‘ðŸ¼ can't wait to see how this one unfolds

If all goes to plan this will be the project to end all projects :eek: it's the wheelchair adapted cruiser and here is a sneak preview of whats ahead of me.

Ferris · 07-03-2016 5:33pm

Ready by summer??

insebayguy · 07-03-2016 6:06pm

What. The. &@*%?!?!?!. Please tell me this is a submarine?? How long had she been under water? Why? This can't be called a "project"!! That word relates to 250 pcs jigsaws, painting a bedroom etc. This is mammoth! Really can't wait to see this baby developing. Will you be able to get this into your work station (back garden)?

Conchir · 07-03-2016 9:25pm

I'm so excited to see this. As always it'll be great to watch, and you'll have an entire community behind you fergal! The best of luck with it.

JamesM · 09-03-2016 1:12pm

Offline for a couple of days visiting the grandchildren (and don't have an iphone) and come back to this exciting news

Present location ?

deandean · 14-03-2016 6:31pm

Wow Fergal you are some man to take on a challenge. Best wishes with the new project.

There are some 'sunken jewels' out there for sure

Skuxx · 14-03-2016 6:49pm

Are we allowed to ask what sort of boat she is or will there be a grand reveiling?

fergal.b · 14-03-2016 6:59pm

Skuxx wrote: »

Are we allowed to ask what sort of boat she is or will there be a grand reveiling?

She is a 1970's Richardson "roving gem" generation 4 I think it's the same hull as an ocean 30 here is another sneak peak taken after the refloating. :eek:

Ferris · 14-03-2016 8:42pm

I (respectively) disagree that its an Ocean 30 hull Fergal. The chine is too angular on your boat and the 'step' below the gunnel isn't on the Ocean/Broom 30.

Obviously I am open to correction but I think its a Seamaster 30 hull, which isn't a bad thing, my Da had one for years. If you know the beam you could confirm as the Seamaster was beamy for its time.

fergal.b · 14-03-2016 8:56pm

Ferris wrote: »

I (respectively) disagree that its an Ocean 30 hull Fergal. The chine is too angular on your boat and the 'step' below the gunnel isn't on the Ocean/Broom 30.

Obviously I am open to correction but I think its a Seamaster 30 hull, which isn't a bad thing, my Da had one for years. If you know the beam you could confirm as the Seamaster was beamy for its time.

Sorry your right my mistake it's a seamaster30 I was looking up Ocean 30's at the time

it's 11ft 3ins beam.

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Ferris · 14-03-2016 9:07pm

it says 11'6" here: so its in the right ballpark. Also I'll always remember that hullshape, the 'oul fella had me painting it that often. :P

Great handling hull btw. Slams upwind a bit in heavy stuff but capable and very maneuverable. Driven properly it would spin in its own length and was easy to berth single handed. I would imagine that the lay-up is on the brick ****house side of heavy.

What engine is in her, is it salvageable?

fergal.b · 14-03-2016 9:20pm

Ferris wrote: »

it says 11'6" here: so its in the right ballpark. Also I'll always remember that hullshape, the 'oul fella had me painting it that often. :P

Great handling hull btw. Slams upwind a bit in heavy stuff but capable and very maneuverable. Driven properly it would spin in its own length and was easy to berth single handed. I would imagine that the lay-up is on the brick ****house side of heavy.

What engine is in her, is it salvageable?

Yep there sure is a lot of fibreglass in her and it's going to be tricky cutting out for the wheelchair ramp I would like to come in from the side but it would need a lot more structural support than the transom, lots of thinking to do.

I don't know much about diesel cruiser engines but it might be a perkins 4236 and she is up and running now.

Ferris · 14-03-2016 9:37pm

Defo not a Perkins, I would guess a BMC captain, very popular on British broads type cruisers. Better engine I've been told, especially since it runs now.

On the aspect of side to / stern to access I don't know which would be best. The Shannon has a mix of both, but not at every harbour. Also what to do about differing heights of jetty's etc.

Its a big challenge and I can't wait to see your solution and what else you do to the boat.

fergal.b · 14-03-2016 9:44pm

Ferris wrote: »

Defo not a Perkins, I would guess a BMC captain, very popular on British broads type cruisers. Better engine I've been told, especially since it runs now.

On the aspect of side to / stern to access I don't know which would be best. The Shannon has a mix of both, but not at every harbour. Also what to do about differing heights of jetty's etc.

Its a big challenge and I can't wait to see your solution and what else you do to the boat.

I think your right again I remember seeing the word captain on the side of the engine had no idea what it meant :roll eyes:

I learn something new every day.

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daveville30 · 14-03-2016 9:49pm

Why did it sink do you know? A lot off work in that better off buying a barrel of epoxy.

Ferris · 14-03-2016 9:52pm

fergal.b wrote: »

I think your right again I remember seeing the word captain on the side of the engine had no idea what it meant :roll eyes: I learn something new every day.
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They have different sizes, BMC 1.5 & 2.5 I recall, taken from Sherpa vans I think. I would guess that yours is a 1.5 with about 35hp so its no speed merchant but you'll see 5 or 6 knots which is plenty in my view.

The 4236 is what we have and its a good engine but it would be a lot bigger and therefore may give you layout issues. The 4236 would get you to above hull speed with that hull but realistically what you have there is A1.

fergal.b · 14-03-2016 10:13pm

daveville30 wrote: »

Why did it sink do you know? A lot off work in that better off buying a barrel of epoxy.

After the owner passed away she was neglected and a chain or something was left rubbing against the hull wearing a hole in her. All donations of epoxy are welcome

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snowwolf · 17-03-2016 9:44pm

Fergal are you Telling me this is your new project ???.

fergal.b · 17-03-2016 9:52pm

snowwolf wrote: »

Fergal are you Telling me this is your new project ???.

If all goes to plan it will be

I have two boats up for sale at the moment to help fund it

will be sad to see them go.

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snowwolf · 17-03-2016 10:03pm

Jesus you are going to have some job on your hands there . rather you than me . i will be looking forward to see how this turns out .

Hifive · 17-03-2016 10:47pm

Oh ye of little faith, this man has skills.......Or needs new contact lenses.

Anyway, a quick power wash and a lick of paint and she'll be grand.

snowwolf · 18-03-2016 1:08pm

I just can't wait to see how this one turns out . I bet we will all be astonished . it will be like jesus turning water to wine . A man of many talents .

insebayguy · 24-03-2016 3:33pm

Just back from galavanting about the Caribbean on the "Brilliance of the Seas", not a bad ship but I bet nothing compared to what you'll make out of this one. Doing a bit of catch up here and can't wait to see how this turns out. Have you managed to move the other boats on yet?

fergal.b · 24-03-2016 3:56pm

I might have the little one gone and hold onto the Glastron a bit longer can't be without a running boat

I ran into a little problem with the cruiser it's one of those things you should always look out for when buying a boat, it turns out there is money owed to the marina and the marina owner has the right to hold onto the boat till he is paid so if I had bought her I would also have to pay what is owed :eek: we are still working out a solution so she is still on the cards just have to wait and see how it all turns out.

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insebayguy · 24-03-2016 5:04pm

Christ. That could have gotten smelly. Hopefully it works out for the best either way. This just may not be the one for you but see how it plays out I suppose. Not sure of the legality of the marina owner holding (or putting a lien) on goods/stock against payment. I know it's the normal/done thing but I have a niggling feeling that legally it can't be done. They can certainly pursue payment of any outstanding monies owed through the usual legal channels etc but I think they're not in a position to seize the craft against payment (unless they're customs/revenue). Might be worth looking into. I know usually in these cases the person owed money is grateful to accept a percentage of the outstanding fees rather than letting them build up & getting nothing in the end.

snowwolf · 25-03-2016 3:32am

Fergal i hope all works out well for you . you deserve it .

Ferris · 26-03-2016 12:43am

Surely the outstanding debt rests with the deceased ex-owners estate. You removed the boat from the marina with agreement with the marina owner presumably, therefore your contract is with him. Had he taken ownership of the boat then??

Also, theoretically you could bill him for the cost of removal ;-)

I would advise using a solicitor if it all goes south but in the meantime I wonder if you played (respectful) hardball, mentioning the above facts (if accurate), would the marina owner give it up as a lost cause.

fergal.b · 26-03-2016 2:28am

Ferris wrote: »

Surely the outstanding debt rests with the deceased ex-owners estate. You removed the boat from the marina with agreement with the marina owner presumably, therefore your contract is with him. Had he taken ownership of the boat then??

Also, theoretically you could bill him for the cost of removal ;-)

I would advise using a solicitor if it all goes south but in the meantime I wonder if you played (respectful) hardball, mentioning the above facts (if accurate), would the marina owner give it up as a lost cause.

I didn't pay for the lift out, not sure if it was the new owner or the insurance also not sure if the now owner bought it off the insurance company or the family but the money is owed to the marina that lifted her and where she is now.
Why do I pick up on things that have so many compilations :roll eyes:

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Alkers · 26-03-2016 3:03am

Roughly how much are we talking, could we crowd fund to get it over the line? I for one can't wait to see you progress this project!

fergal.b · 26-03-2016 11:57am

Simona1986 wrote: »

Roughly how much are we talking, could we crowd fund to get it over the line? I for one can't wait to see you progress this project!

Thanks for the offer very kind but I don't want to give in just yet maybe when push comes to shove I'll have too, it's Easter now and all the boats will be going back in the water so the pressure will be on him to get things sorted.
Living on carers allowance funds are very low so I was thinking of maybe setting up a "fund:it" account http://fundit.ie/browse if thats possible and also look into seeing if there are any grants from the Irish wheelchair association as I think you can get one to convert a holiday home or mobile.
One of our members here has also kindly offered to supply the plywood to do the floor

and I will be doing a lot more beg, steel and borrowing when the time comes.:)

As a family we were meant to be on the water

and it would be great to be able to bring some other wheelchair users out for a day trip so hopefully it will all come together before I get too old for this sanding fibreglass crap

So I bought another classic boat

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