any body got any news on steam for linux

bpb101 · 28-06-2011 1:40am #1

just in general any news for a vale supported edition of steam for linux.

Naikon · 28-06-2011 10:45am

You were lied to, son. Not gonna happen. Michael Larrabee is an idiot.

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 28-06-2011 10:49am

OSI wrote: »

As small as the Mac market is, it's still much bigger than the Linux market, and is a market that are willing to pay for software and it still took them close to ten years to get Steam.

If the Humble Bundles were any sort of indicator, then Linux users will pay more for their games than Mac or Windows users once they are marketed in a way that is loosely consistent with with a sort of linux ethos.

Naikon · 28-06-2011 11:38am

OSI wrote: »

Paying a tenner for a few small indie games does not compare to paying €50 for a full publisher title.

It's a start, but not that the big houses would care. Linux distros are very source code centered. There isn't much incentive to release binaries that require a team to maintain, when the community could do it. They can't release the source because of IP and all that jazz.

Fysh · 28-06-2011 12:29pm

OSI wrote: »

Paying a tenner for a few small indie games does not compare to paying €50 for a full publisher title.

Well, no, but the stats say that on average Linux users paid over 3 times what Windows users paid for the same software, and almost twice what OS X users paid for the same software.

Given that the work involved in porting Steam to OS X (and incorporating any support at all for the PSN) it would seem strange to not then move beyond that into wider Linux support, but between potential DRM issues and graphics support issues I wouldn't exactly hold my breath for it to happen. Which is mildly annoying, as I'd quite like Steam on the fedora box I use as a mediacentre on my TV without having to muck around with Wine - I know PlayOnLinux is supposed to be making this easier, but nothing's going to beat a native client.

bpb101 · 28-06-2011 2:12pm

i cant see it happing anytime soon myself but
android although only on tablets is becoming quite popular and google will realy push for that and as we all know android is linux...

i think they would make a profit tho,
take example that call of duty sold 1,300,000 copies

and at just over 1 % of computer use linux that would be around 15,000 copies for linux

if steam (i know that includes copies sold in shops ) steam would make around €100,000
the only problem is that people who use linux who want to play call of duty or other will use a windows partion ...

2snj3rwgt56h9k · 28-06-2011 4:33pm

Why bother? Steam already works nearly flawlessly through Wine, and many of the games work well through it (more than would ever be concievably ported). Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Half Life 2 and portal not only play flawlessly on my Nvidia card, they also get superior framerates than in steam for OS X on a 2008 macbook pro.

Khannie · 28-06-2011 6:12pm

bpb101 wrote: »

as we all know android is linux...

Only underneath. The apps are all written in Java AFAIK.

aidan_walsh · 28-06-2011 6:16pm

Khannie wrote: »

Only underneath. The apps are all written in Java AFAIK.

Well, a bastardised Google branded version anyway.

Naikon · 29-06-2011 12:06pm

It's funny that Android uses the NetBSD libc. They probably went down that path to avoid having to deal with Ulrich Drepper.

boomslang · 23-07-2011 12:59pm

Valve have said they are not working on a Linux version of steam

Question: Final question, and one I'm sure you're not super-keen to answer, but I promised one of our tech guys I'd ask it. What truth is there to rumours that you're also working on a Linux version of Steam?
Doug Lombardi: There's no Linux version that we're working on right now.

bpb101 · 25-04-2012 3:25pm

chears for the news, hope it happens soon.
Has Been a while since i opened this thread.

bpb101 · 26-04-2012 4:13pm

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/valve-linux-steam-client/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29&utm_content=FaceBook&ref=nf

Khannie · 26-04-2012 4:23pm

Great news. Really delighted. Mmmmmmm. Naaaattttiiiiiivvveeeee.

Last native game I really played a lot of was UT2004.

bpb101 · 26-04-2012 6:43pm

Khannie wrote: »

Great news. Really delighted. Mmmmmmm. Naaaattttiiiiiivvveeeee.

Last native game I really played a lot of was UT2004.

hopefull not long before even a beta steam for linux is up and out

bpb101 · 03-05-2012 6:37pm

Going off topic a bit but however
EA To give a speech at uds

origin for linux ?

shizz · 05-05-2012 5:39pm

I just hope that all of this talk will lead to the games industry making some sort of move to linux. Gaming is the only thing keeping me dual booting and I really wanna let go.

bpb101 · 06-05-2012 4:16pm

shizz wrote: »

I just hope that all of this talk will lead to the games industry making some sort of move to linux. Gaming is the only thing keeping me dual booting and I really wanna let go.

If origin comes to linux they will port all(most anyways) there games, because it would be pointless to have just a client
They have only a few games on origin

Steams have millions of games and they really only sell the games .

EA origin actual make them

Khannie · 07-05-2012 4:34pm

shizz wrote: »

I just hope that all of this talk will lead to the games industry making some sort of move to linux. Gaming is the only thing keeping me dual booting and I really wanna let go.

I was so far gone from Windows that I just stopped gaming when UT3 failed to materialise on Linux.

bpb101 · 08-05-2012 7:16pm

Free EA games in the USC

timbyr · 09-05-2012 9:38am

bpb101 wrote: »

Free EA games in the USC

I'm a bit confused there. Runs in the default browser. So all that is in the USC is a bookmark?

Are they WebGL or running using something like that Unity3D framework?

bpb101 · 09-05-2012 5:50pm

timbyr wrote: »

bpb101 wrote: »

Free EA games in the USC

I'm a bit confused there. Runs in the default browser. So all that is in the USC is a bookmark?

Are they WebGL or running using something like that Unity3D framework?

hey , that what people are saying but at lease it a step in the right direction.
I probly won't play them but I will still dl
Just to add to the count

timbyr · 09-05-2012 8:22pm

Just "installed" it. Required me to enter my Ubuntu SSO details.
After install it then proceeded to open up the browser with
http://alliances.commandandconquer.com/?utm_source=%28not%20set%29&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=cca_ubuntu
Then had to sign in with my Origin account.

It is just one of their Play4Free. It is WebGL but pretty crap quality. I am quite afraid of it being just a way of making them jumping on the micro-transaction bandwagon.

bpb101 · 11-05-2012 1:21am

last question is the most important i would say
from this.

timbyr · 31-05-2012 11:13pm

Ubuntu is now providing downloads for Humble Bundle V like Steam through the Software Centre

Khannie · 05-06-2012 3:02pm

Nom nom nom....

bpb101 · 06-06-2012 2:58pm

i find it stage there is no subject on a email like this !!!

bpb101 · 16-06-2012 1:07pm

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/06/linux-gaming-on-the-rise-ea-arrives-on-ubuntu-and-valve-plans-steam-port/

Khannie · 17-06-2012 9:51am

I have to say that all this is great news. I bought the humble bundle myself recently. Availability of games on linux would probably see a massive surge in desktop linux usage (as in from almost nothing, to two times almost nothing

). It would certainly remove one of the biggest barriers there for the ~14 - 40 year olds.

bpb101 · 18-06-2012 1:59pm

just worndering , what games do people think valve will port over to linux. There Half life or counter strike.
They wont just bring out the client

EDIT: Does anybody think it will be in the usc or what ?. If it is it will cost $0:00 , it wont be free

d31b0y · 18-06-2012 3:31pm

I imagine any games that are available on Mac will be ported on to Linux. These are the games that they have flagged to be most popular.

They would never charge for the steam client. That would be madness.

bpb101 · 18-06-2012 7:31pm

d31b0y wrote: »

They would never charge for the steam client. That would be madness.

I don't mean charge , i mean not free , similar to the EA games were $0.00

Khannie · 18-06-2012 11:55pm

d31b0y wrote: »

I imagine any games that are available on Mac will be ported on to Linux. These are the games that they have flagged to be most popular.

Not to mention require feck all effort to then port to linux. If it runs on Mac I think it would be handy to port to Linux. I'd nearly help them out if I wanted the game badly enough.

They said they were porting the source engine though, right? I remember being very upset at the time that that engine wasn't OpenGL.

Hey...who knows....we may see a native UT3 client yet.

(yes, I am *still* bitter).

RUCKING FETARD · 19-06-2012 1:32am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds (Head guy behind Linux)

Skip to 48.15 and watch untill 50.10 to see what he thinks of Nividias lack of driver/tech support!!

https://github.com/search?q=optimus&type=Everything&repo=&langOverride=&start_value=1

bpb101 · 17-07-2012 12:40pm

its official
Left for dead 2 will be coming through steam on linux
Straight from value

http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/

See also Omg Ubuntu

rollie · 20-07-2012 2:50pm

This is amazing news....hopefully some more games will be ported over, and more developers get involved. The Total War series would be fantastic

bpb101 · 20-07-2012 9:12pm

well , i presume , they can only port over the openGL games, which are basically all the mac games on steam

i would say that other developers wont consider Linux (on steam) until there is an actual client.

Khannie · 20-07-2012 9:33pm

bpb101 wrote: »

well , i presume , they can only port over the openGL games, which are basically all the mac games on steam

Other games have been ported in the past, though obviously OGL games are much easier to port. I'd say the mac->linux port effort is relatively small.

bpb101 · 20-07-2012 9:57pm

Khannie wrote: »

I'd say the mac->linux port effort is relatively small.

what i mean is that the games that are on mac are ussaly through OpenGL
and its will be the ones that can be easly port that will

Are you suggesting that there will be a windows and linux games, no mac ports for current games?

Khannie · 21-07-2012 10:55pm

bpb101 wrote: »

what i mean is that the games that are on mac are ussaly through OpenGL
and its will be the ones that can be easly port that will

Yep. Agreed. I remember for UT2004 though, they paid Ryan whatshisname to port it from D3D to OpenGL on Linux.

bpb101 wrote: »

Are you suggesting that there will be a windows and linux games, no mac ports for current games?

Can't quite understand the question. I was saying more or less what you were saying...that mac ports will be handier because they're OGL already.

human 19 · 22-07-2012 2:39am

The official Valve Linux blog. Bookmark.

http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/

"This blog is where you can find the latest information from Valve about our Linux development efforts. Avoid the rumors and speculations that multiply on the Web. Instead, come to the source – a blog where people who are interested in Linux and open source game development can get the latest information on Valve’s efforts in this arena. In this initial post, we’ll introduce the team (and a bit of its history) and then give you a snapshot of what we’re currently doing."

human 19 · 22-07-2012 2:56am

Ian Romanick of Intel's Open-Source Technology Center blogged about The zombies cometh.... In there, Romanick shares that he and his team were in Bellevue working with Valve's Linux team on Left 4 Dead 2. Romanick's key points from the blog post:

*It was the most successful work trip I've ever had. The guys at Valve were amazing to work with. They are sharp, driven, and have an aggressive plan.

*There are also a few places where we eat way, way too much CPU. A lot of these problems mirror issues that we've seen with other game engines (e.g., Unigine).These have been a lot easier to diagnose on L4D2 because we have access to their source code. Being able to take a profile that shows times in the driver and in the application makes a world of difference. Being able to tweak little things in the app (what happens if I do this...) is also helpful for diagnosing performance problems.

Blog from Ian Romanick + comments/responses

http://www.paranormal-entertainment.com/idr/blog/posts/2012-07-19T18:54:37Z-The_zombies_cometh/

bpb101 · 23-07-2012 2:21am

human 19 wrote: »

The official Valve Linux blog. Bookmark.

http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/

"This blog is where you can find the latest information from Valve about our Linux development efforts. Avoid the rumors and speculations that multiply on the Web. Instead, come to the source – a blog where people who are interested in Linux and open source game development can get the latest information on Valve’s efforts in this arena. In this initial post, we’ll introduce the team (and a bit of its history) and then give you a snapshot of what we’re currently doing."

I’ve already rss feeded it

bpb101 · 26-07-2012 1:13pm

Has anybody though why steam want to invest so much in linux and open source

Well apart from the fact that linux user want to game

Have a look at this , from the Casual Connect videogame conference in Seattle, USA, Newell said:

“The big problem that is holding back Linux is games. People don’t realize how critical games are in driving consumer purchasing behavior.
We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2,500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It’s a hedging strategy. I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space.
I think we’ll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people.
If that’s true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality.”

bpb101 · 26-07-2012 2:29pm

Serous sam 3
Coming to a linux steam client near you

image.php?id=0x2012&image=linux_serioussam_3_show&w=1024

Grudaire · 27-07-2012 11:19am

Similar article on the BBC as well...

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377

Mr Newell, who worked for Microsoft for 13 years on Windows, said his company had embraced the open-source software Linux as a "hedging strategy" designed to offset some of the damage Windows 8 was likely to do.

"We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2,500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well," said Mr Newell.

"Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space."

rollie · 27-07-2012 11:59am

I would say that has more to do with the new inbuilt Windows market place. Its a major rival to Steam, and could threaten to close off the platform from Valve. Although on the upside it could mean even better deals for us lay-folk.

bpb101 · 27-07-2012 1:25pm

havent seen any pictures of the steam client yet but hopefully before or on the 8th of august we might see something

in that serious sam post that i made above , what is the icon in the launcher, 2nd from the end? Never seen it before,

timbyr · 27-07-2012 8:08pm

rollie wrote: »

I would say that has more to do with the new inbuilt Windows market place. Its a major rival to Steam, and could threaten to close off the platform from Valve. Although on the upside it could mean even better deals for us lay-folk.

Can't imagine it will have much more of an impact that the existing Games for Windows Live does.
Granted it'll be available by default. But I am not so sure that Steam's regular customers will jump ship.
I just hope I don't have to deal with platform exclusivity with Microsoft Games published titles. Not the biggest fan of the GWFL and how it handles game installations, DRM and DLC.

bpb101 · 28-07-2012 1:19am

well i presume the businesses plan is that , IF people in the future want to move to linux they will still have steam.

Also are valve predicting a mass market move from widows to linux
would be cheaper for OEM's by 20 -30 quid per machine
That goes a long way when your selling thousands of PC's daily

Stuxnet · 28-07-2012 7:53pm

windows 8 wont be such a "catastrophe" if ms simply implement a turn off metro feature or have it disabled by default on pc's ...

is bound to come in an update if the above valve premonitions come

any body got any news on steam for linux

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