Top Gear kicked out of Argentina - World gone mad?

fran17 · 30-12-2014 9:56pm

I think it was proper order what happened to the crew.What would happen if those three stooges came over here disrespecting the memories of the 16 men executed after the 1916 rising?Says a lot more about top gear,making publicity of war dead,than the Argentinians.

Cool_CM · 30-12-2014 10:20pm

fran17 wrote: »

I think it was proper order what happened to the crew.

I don't think the crew did anything to deserve that.

fran17 wrote: »

What would happen if those three stooges came over here disrespecting the memories of the 16 men executed after the 1916 rising?

Not much I'd imagine.

Breffnigolfer · 30-12-2014 10:22pm

fran17 wrote: »

I ........What would happen if those three stooges came over here disrespecting the memories of the 16 men executed after the 1916 rising?..........

How likely is that?

If not, why raise it as a possibility?

How about dealing with what happened, not some hypothetical situation?

B.A._Baracus · 30-12-2014 10:55pm

There was no way the license plate was a coincidence.
The producers said the car was legally registered with that plate. While that may be the case dont tell me it went 'unnoticed' when they were selecting the cars to use for the special

fran17 · 30-12-2014 11:20pm

Cool_CM wrote: »

I don't think the crew did anything to deserve that.

Not much I'd imagine.

Guilty by association.They all new very well what they were up to,thick as thieves.

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

How likely is that?

If not, why raise it as a possibility?

How about dealing with what happened, not some hypothetical situation?

Its quite unlikely because Britain has many ties to Ireland through trade,diplomacy,tourism and through the European union as we are neighbours.Plus they still have that old colonialism stain to wash out of their shirt.
I raised the possibility simply as a comparison as we are not Argentinian so must look at this from an Irish perspective.How do you suggest we deal with this?

DainBramage · 30-12-2014 11:20pm

I found the episode subdued after all the hype, slightly boring even. It was respectful to Argentina for the most part though I suspect most Falkland gags or jibes if any were probably edited out after the controversy. Indeed the Falklands hardly got a mention. The best thing for me from the episodes were the great shots of Patagonias scenery.
Looks like the crew got the brunt of the abuse after the 3 celebs were airlifted out.

fran17 · 30-12-2014 11:23pm

DainBramage wrote: »

I found the episode subdued after all the hype, slightly boring even. It was respectful to Argentina for the most part though I suspect most Falkland gags or jibes if any were probably edited out after the controversy. Indeed the Falklands hardly got a mention. The best thing for me from the episodes were the great shots of Patagonias scenery.
Looks like the crew got the brunt of the abuse after the 3 celebs were airlifted out.

I thought the same.The entertainment value was much less than previous specials and a lot of the gags were played to death and just didn't work.

funkey_monkey · 30-12-2014 11:28pm

I also thought it was a poor programme - this first episode especially. I really enjoyed the scenery and I get the feeling it was edited to be a generous thank you to Chile who helped the crew out of the situation.

I'm not sure how the British would feel if 3 Argies rocked up with an 1986 HOG number plate and proceeded to rip and tear about GB. I'm sure the Daily Mail and its permanently outraged readers would be irritated

What interested me the most was the size of the support team for these 3 guys. Ewan McGregor and the other fella went around the world with (I think) 2 support trucks (possibly 3) - nothing like the convoy TG had. That was the stand out thing for me. It was a bit of a kerfuffle over very little (although post editing could have silently removed any anti argie stuff) and also (and more importantly) a really dull programme.

end of the road · 30-12-2014 11:31pm

Gatling wrote: »

Must say pretty subdued actually ,

In saying that Argentina are getting brave now Vladimir putin are all cosyed up together,

Must reminds Argentina who sent them to invade the falklands in the early 80's

for oil and because an election was on the horizon which you know who was going to probably lose

DainBramage · 30-12-2014 11:33pm

fran17 wrote: »

I thought the same.The entertainment value was much less than previous specials and a lot of the gags were played to death and just didn't work.

The gags are very contrived and samey at this point- someones car breaks down and the rest of the lads will drive off and leave them. Someones car gets rigged with something silly 'in the middle of the night' (breaklight on dash). Loading the cars up with random junk and/or converting them.
I still like the specials and the cinematography is great in them though. But they are running out of ideas.

Jimoslimos · 30-12-2014 11:33pm

Would Clarkson drive into the Bogside with a 1P4R4 number-plate?:eek:

I enjoy Top Gear for what it is, primarily an entertainment show with motors as the vehicle, so to speak. I can even tolerate the wildly differing political opinions of Jeremy Clarkson to my own.

Some of the stuff about the other numberplates representing figures close to number of soldiers killed is pure nonsense.

However I cannot believe that with all the work that goes into these specials that nobody in the TG production team would have spotted it much earlier - especially given the support the show gives to the British military, both past and present, as well as the numerous amount of paperwork to be filled out when shipping the car. It's not as if they saw the car once, threw it into a container and didn't think about it until arriving in South America.

IMO it was a similar stunt to the Vietnam motorcycle or American redneck jokes they've done before. Probably to be humorously spotted at some stage by Hammond or May, resulting in a bit of tension followed by a madcap escape - went a bit further than expected though.

The actions of the mob were inexcusable though.

end of the road · 30-12-2014 11:33pm

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

How likely is that?

If not, why raise it as a possibility?

How about dealing with what happened, not some hypothetical situation?

its relevant. his question is valid

Gatling · 30-12-2014 11:36pm

end of the road wrote: »

for oil and because an election was on the horizon which you know who was going to probably lose

Actually no ,the action the British took in sending the task force to retake the Falklands and give the argies a bloody nose was mostly done on the quite ,
The uk government had a media blackout in place for most part of the whole event ,
And oil exploration is still only a recent thing too for the most part

foggy_lad · 30-12-2014 11:38pm

The show is all washed up as far as specials go. this latest was a poor effort at anything even humorous or mildly entertaining and the best parts were the beautiful views of Argentina.

There is no doubt for me that the number plate was deliberate but I also suspect that the resulting attack on the convoy may have been organised/staged to bring attention and viewers for a show which was not getting any real attention.

cdeb · 30-12-2014 11:46pm

Top Gear - one of the BBC's most-watched shows - wasn't getting any attention, so they rigged it that people would through stones at the crew and smash their car windows?

Right so.

Have you any idea how much mileage the Daily Racist - sorry, Mail - would get if they found out (which they would) that the attack was staged? There is no way the BBC would stage an ambush, and then blame it entirely on locals.

Honest to God, the stuff people come up with is unbelievable at times.

end of the road · 30-12-2014 11:49pm

Gatling wrote: »

Actually no ,the action the British took in sending the task force to retake the Falklands and give the argies a bloody nose was mostly done on the quite

i know, but that doesn't mean the reasons weren't what i suggested. once it came out afterwords the election was a landslide for the tories.

Gatling wrote: »

The uk government had a media blackout in place for most part of the whole event

yeah, but remember britain was going through major austerity with industries closing and millions unemployed. to not black out the conflict until the forces were down there would have been to much of a gamble in terms of re-election. as far as the government knew, there was no guarintee of support for another far away conflict for a couple of islands which contribute nothing to britain especially in such times of hardship.

Gatling wrote: »

oil exploration is still only a recent thing too for the most part

they knew about the possibility of oil down there back in 1982 or before it though.

Gatling · 30-12-2014 11:50pm

cdeb wrote: »

Top Gear - one of the BBC's most-watched shows - wasn't getting any attention, so they rigged it that people would through stones at the crew and smash their car windows?

Right so.

Have you any idea how much mileage the Daily Racist - sorry, Mail - would get if they found out (which they would) that the attack was staged? There is no way the BBC would stage an ambush, and then blame it entirely on locals.

Honest to God, the stuff people come up with is unbelievable at times.

Which paper was harking on about them asking if a bridge was straight should be investigated for some reason or other

Aongus Von Bismarck · 30-12-2014 11:52pm

'Clarkey', Captain Slow and Hamster are about as fresh as a three week old kebab. Idiotic show with dreadful middle-aged lad 'humour'.

I'd recommend both the Chilean and Argentinian Patagonia regions for a relaxing holiday. The W Trek in Torres del Paine in Chilean Patagonia is one of the things everyone should hope to do before they die. A wonderful 4 day trek through some of the world's most spectacular scenery.

cdeb · 30-12-2014 11:53pm

Gatling wrote: »

Which paper was harking on about them asking if a bridge was straight should be investigated for some reason or other

The Daily Mail.

But some would believe the Mail would spot this, but not spot a staged ambush (and I'm sure they'd be able to offer a high enough price to any of those "in on the trick" to spill the beans)

Thargor · 31-12-2014 12:06am

Funny thing about that number plate is, Clarkson swore on his kids lives it was just a random coincidence, which kind of makes him a lying scumbag.

Gatling · 31-12-2014 12:08am

Thargor wrote: »

Funny thing about that number plate is, Clarkson swore on his kids lives it was just a random coincidence, which kind of makes him a lying scumbag.

And you can prove this

cdeb · 31-12-2014 12:10am

Surely he just did?

Twas a marvellous example of Holmesian deduction. We're privileged to see such a mind at work.

fran17 · 31-12-2014 12:16am

cdeb wrote: »

Top Gear - one of the BBC's most-watched shows - wasn't getting any attention, so they rigged it that people would through stones at the crew and smash their car windows?

Right so.

Have you any idea how much mileage the Daily Racist - sorry, Mail - would get if they found out (which they would) that the attack was staged? There is no way the BBC would stage an ambush, and then blame it entirely on locals.

Honest to God, the stuff people come up with is unbelievable at times.

Another conspiracy theory could be lets deflect the whole "catch a ni**er by the toe" controversy that surrounded Clarkson back in early summer,
If you think about it.It's a sure fire way of getting the british public,well the section of the british public that watches top gear and buys there products,back on side by revving up the old bulldog spirit.

Breffnigolfer · 31-12-2014 12:19am

The car was a Porsche 928, the number plate read 982. (The war was in 1982)
As far as "cherish" plates go, it was a poor one. What a coincidence then the letters were FKL?

B.A._Baracus · 31-12-2014 12:20am

Gatling wrote: »

And you can prove this

License plate aside... he blatantly said he didnt use the N word on Top Gear. Despite one of the tabloids having the unedited/pre-dubbed footage of the clip. So the chap is a liar regardless of this. But personally I wouldnt put it past him swearing on his kids too.

cdeb · 31-12-2014 12:23am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

he blatantly said he didnt use the N word on Top Gear.

And he didn't. The clip - in which he doesn't actually say the n-word, but deliberately mumbles the part of the well-known nursery rhyme, which is being used in context - was deliberately not aired because he felt even the mumbled bit was too much.

Enter Daily Mail - and its brainless adherents - to blow the whole thing out of proportion, of course.

Gatling · 31-12-2014 12:24am

cdeb wrote: »

And he didn't. The clip - in which he doesn't actually say the n-word, but deliberately mumbles the part of the well-known nursery rhyme, which is being used in context - was deliberately not aired because he felt even the mumbled bit was too much.

Enter Daily Mail - and its brainless adherents - to blow the whole thing out of proportion, of course.

Mumbled something found guilty based off nothing

Thargor · 31-12-2014 12:25am

cdeb wrote: »

Surely he just did?

Twas a marvellous example of Holmesian deduction. We're privileged to see such a mind at work.

Might want to try a quick Google before you blow your load next time smartarse:
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-29488770

Clarkson told the Sun newspaper, for which he writes a regular column: "We knew absolutely nothing about the number plate, it was just an unbelievable coincidence. I swear on my kids' lives.

The Diabolical Monocle · 31-12-2014 12:27am

There are many many black porsches that could have been used.
Yet that particular one was chosen.

Clarkson was on a warning for his previous trollings.
Yet not 1 member of a professional production crew of 30+ people saw this, even though weeks of pre-production would have taken place.

Of the three hosts it just happens to be king troll, who makes his money off political humor, thats driving the offending plate.

Gatling · 31-12-2014 12:29am

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

There are many many black porsches that could have been used.
Yet that particular one was chosen.

Clarkson was on a warning for his previous trollings.
Yet not 1 member of a professional production crew of 30+ people saw this, even though weeks of pre-production would have taken place.

Of the three hosts it just happens to be king troll, who makes his money off political humor, thats driving the offending plate.

So surely on that conspiracy theory

clarkson would have been driving a Jag , Bentley, Lotus even a rover with an offending licence plate .

But a German marque doesn't sound right at all

foggy_lad · 31-12-2014 12:29am

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Of the three hosts it just happens to be king troll, who makes his money off political humor, thats driving the offending plate.

The same troll who appears to have a hatred for porches(and Porsches) from previous episodes of the show.

Gatling · 31-12-2014 12:30am

foggy_lad wrote: »

The same troll who appears to have a hatred for porches(and Porsches) from previous episodes of the show.

Hatred for 911's

The Diabolical Monocle · 31-12-2014 12:35am

Gatling wrote: »

So surely on that conspiracy theory

clarkson would have been driving a Jag , Bentley, Lotus even a rover with an offending licence plate .

But a German marque doesn't sound right at all

Lotus, Bentley, etc didn't have the right reg plates.

cdeb · 31-12-2014 12:43am

Thargor wrote: »

Might want to try a quick Google before you blow your load next time smartarse:
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-29488770

It was the "proof" that he was lying that I was calling you up on.

You offered none at all for some reason.

fryup · 31-12-2014 12:47am

i hear next year they're off to south armagh

should be fun

Gatling · 31-12-2014 12:49am

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Lotus, Bentley, etc didn't have the right reg plates.

A bit of a pair of screws would have solved that surely .

Thargor · 31-12-2014 12:49am

cdeb wrote: »

It was the "proof" that he was lying that I was calling you up on.

You offered none at all for some reason.

Oh FFS I suppose you thought he really was worried that there was too much of a slope on that perfectly flat bridge aswell...

Gatling · 31-12-2014 12:50am

Thargor wrote: »

Oh FFS I suppose you thought he really was worried that there was too much of a slope on that perfectly flat bridge aswell...

A perfect flat bridge

Did you actually see it or read it

Breffnigolfer · 31-12-2014 12:51am

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

There are many many black porsches that could have been used.
Yet that particular one was chosen.

.........

What black Porsche?
There wasn't any black car in the programme.

deco nate · 31-12-2014 12:53am

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

What black Porsche?
There wasn't any black car in the programme.

Yep it was gray. Maybe some people didn't see the programme and are just posting...

Gatling · 31-12-2014 12:54am

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

What black Porsche?
There wasn't any black car in the programme.

Wait

Are you suggesting they resorted to discrimination against color vehicle the swines

The Diabolical Monocle · 31-12-2014 12:57am

Gatling wrote: »

A bit of a pair of screws would have solved that surely .

Not for customs/excise/shipping documents if you want that particular plate.

A Bentley may have got him called up by the boss for trolling.

Had to keep it subtle.

Oh yes and then of course they later find a second set of joke plates in his boot.

B311 3ND.

Bell end - the man is in his 50's.

cdeb · 31-12-2014 12:59am

Thargor wrote: »

Oh FFS I suppose you thought he really was worried that there was too much of a slope on that perfectly flat bridge aswell...

So you've no proof whatsoever for your claim Clarkson is a "lying scumbag" then?

Grand so. Just squaring that point off

The Diabolical Monocle · 31-12-2014 12:59am

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

What black Porsche?
There wasn't any black car in the programme.

Oh well Jesus you sure got me there detective Columbo.

bear1 · 31-12-2014 5:01pm

I have to way I'm quite surprised the customs officials in Argentina didn't spot the number plate when it first entered the country.
Surely they would have had to have given them the exact details of each car before even putting them on the boat over.
Still think it was an amazing coincidence.

Top Gear kicked out of Argentina - World gone mad?

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