Ruger Precision Rifle

BattleCorp · 11-07-2016 3:20pm

Atlantic in Carlow have them for €1850. At least I think that's the price he said. I can't swear on it because my memory is shot to sh1t (pardon the pun) but I think that is the price he quoted. I wasn't really interested in one so I didn't pay enough attention. :pac:

They had them in either 308 or 243.

Bad_alibi · 11-07-2016 3:35pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

Atlantic in Carlow have them for €1850. At least I think that's the price he said. I can't swear on it because my memory is shot to sh1t (pardon the pun) but I think that is the price he quoted. I wasn't really interested in one so I didn't pay enough attention. :pac:

They had them in either 308 or 243.

It was either €1850 or €1880 and the .308 was sold the day he got them in. I'm sure there was a bit of wiggle room in that price. Their normally good to deal with.

BattleCorp · 11-07-2016 4:02pm

Bad_alibi wrote: »

It was either €1850 or €1880 and the .308 was sold the day he got them in. I'm sure there was a bit of wiggle room in that price. Their normally good to deal with.

He had one left on Thursday morning as far as I can remember.

Bad_alibi · 11-07-2016 4:08pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

He had one left on Thursday morning as far as I can remember.

Yeah that's the .243 I was in looking at it.

Cass · 11-07-2016 4:16pm

Bad_alibi wrote: »

It is irrelevant ..........

No its not.

People will pay what they want to or what the price is. TO dismiss the higher priced ones because they can be got cheaper is ignoring the fact that they are not ALL cheap.

Don't see the point here I'll assume your agreeing with me

Never assume.

although you do also seem to like an argument.

Funny how people always say argument. No one ever says "like to debate a point". Its a discussion forum. If everyone agreed with the first post there would be no need for the forum. It'd just be a blog.

You have your opinion, and i totally disagree with it. That is the nature of things, but if you are going to call a little bit of back and forth an argument you may grow thicker skin as you're going to find a lot of people won't agree with you on a lot of topics.

The whole thing is moot anyway. For the same money there are better 1,000+ yard rifles out there. Think i highlighted some of it in a previous post.

Deaf git · 11-07-2016 10:53pm

Cass wrote: »

Where is that?

Ruger have it marked as $1,400.

$1400 Is Ruger's 'MSRP'- a suggested retail price.
It is available for $1000 or so at some outlets but this price may not include local taxes.

Getting very good reviews particularly in 6.5 Creedmoor.

Bad_alibi · 12-07-2016 7:52am

Cass wrote: »

No its not.

People will pay what they want to or what the price is. TO dismiss the higher priced ones because they can be got cheaper is ignoring the fact that they are not ALL cheap.

Not to go on a merry go round here but it is irrelevant. Your point would be valid if we were comparing varying quality of two products say like the Harris bipod and one of its clones. While they both do the same thing you can understand why someone would prefer to spend more money on a high quality product.

Your comparing apples with apples and saying that higher prices are relevant ??? That's the head scratcher. What your describing is if two Phone shops were side by side on a street and one had an iPhone for sale for €600 and the shop beside it had the same colour phone identical in every way but was selling it for €1200. The person buying the €1200 one has a screw loose.
Now if the first shop sold out and they weren't available for a month & you were one of the Apple sheep and had to have it that's why the second shop has increased its price to capitalise on your stupidity

Cass wrote: »

Never assume.

Correct that's what started this whole debate, your assumption that these rifles retail for $1400 when in fact they were available across multiple outlets for $1000/1100

Cass wrote: »

Funny how people always say argument. No one ever says "like to debate a point". Its a discussion forum. If everyone agreed with the first post there would be no need for the forum. It'd just be a blog.

I like a debate and heck sometimes I even like a good argument.

Cass wrote: »

You have your opinion, and i totally disagree with it. That is the nature of things, but if you are going to call a little bit of back and forth an argument you may grow thicker skin as you're going to find a lot of people won't agree with you on a lot of topics.

The sarcasm was lost on you

Cass wrote: »

The whole thing is moot anyway. For the same money there are better 1,000+ yard rifles out there. Think i highlighted some of it in a previous post.

That I don't disagree with.

Bad_alibi · 12-07-2016 7:59am

This is going off topic as it has no relevance to what dealers are purchasing these guns for which will always be cheaper than the sale price. If they sell as low as $900 they have been supplied by ruger for lower than this price.
The fact someone is selling it for $2000 just means he's HOPING to make a $1100 profit compared to the $900 guy who's making maybe $100

Mr. $2000 is probably only selling the one or is a greed member of the public cashing in on the scaricity of the product.

Mr. $900 is probably selling 100+ units

Bad_alibi · 12-07-2016 8:06am

Back to the Irish pricing someone be it the UK/Irish importer or the Irish dealer is making a massive profit on these rifles.
Since all the Irish dealers are selling for a similar price €1800-1900 I'd assume it's the importer taking the largest slice of the pie. If the dealers had a better margin you'd see a bigger price difference between them.

Cass · 12-07-2016 11:18am

Bad_alibi wrote: »

Your comparing apples with apples and saying that higher prices are relevant ??? That's the head scratcher.

Bad_alibi wrote: »

If the dealers had a better margin you'd see a bigger price difference between them.

These two point from the above posts explain why i think it's relevant.

It's not down to stupidity, its availability. Picture this:

Manufacturer : €1,400
Dealer A : $1000
Dealer B : $1900

These are yuor three options to buy one from the states. Here is the dilemma.

Manufacturer : Will ship to Ireland/outside CONUS
Dealer A : Won't ship to Ireland/outside CONUS
Dealer B : Will ship to Ireland/outside CONUS

So the cheaper dealer won't ship. However say you find one that is willing to ship. What if the Irish dealer is not buying from him? What if the Irish dealer is buying direct from the manufacturer or worse again the expensive dealer.

Been in this position myself the last couple of weeks. not for a firearm just a small accessory. I can find it way cheaper in the states, but no one will ship to Ireland. The one that will ship is a little more expensive, but when you factor in their massive shipping, the taxes and duties it's more expensive than ordering from the European dealer which was far more expensive than the supplier in the states.

My point being just because someone, somewhere sells the rifle much cheaper does not mean that is the price they are buying it for or the person they are buying from. So for that reason you must consider all prices, not just the cheapest.

amadablam · 31-07-2016 1:46am

Thinking of buying one of these in the coming weeks. Without getting into it too much, does the folding stock take it into the restricted category?

Bad_alibi · 31-07-2016 9:34am

Cass wrote: »

These two point from the above posts explain why i think it's relevant.

It's not down to stupidity, its availability. Picture this:
Manufacturer : €1,400

Dealer A : $1000

Dealer B : $1900

These are yuor three options to buy one from the states. Here is the dilemma.
Manufacturer : Will ship to Ireland/outside CONUS

Dealer A : Won't ship to Ireland/outside CONUS

Dealer B : Will ship to Ireland/outside CONUS

So the cheaper dealer won't ship. However say you find one that is willing to ship. What if the Irish dealer is not buying from him? What if the Irish dealer is buying direct from the manufacturer or worse again the expensive dealer.

Been in this position myself the last couple of weeks. not for a firearm just a small accessory. I can find it way cheaper in the states, but no one will ship to Ireland. The one that will ship is a little more expensive, but when you factor in their massive shipping, the taxes and duties it's more expensive than ordering from the European dealer which was far more expensive than the supplier in the states.

My point being just because someone, somewhere sells the rifle much cheaper does not mean that is the price they are buying it for or the person they are buying from. So for that reason you must consider all prices, not just the cheapest.

Sorry forgot to reply to this. While what you say above is correct, when Joe public tries to purchase firearms or parts from the states, it's a different matter when it's the Licenced importer and the Irish dealers doing it. They don't have to contend with the above.

Bad_alibi wrote: »

While
Im well aware they don't ship out of the CONUS and it wasn't the point I was making. I stated that dealers in the US are possibly purchasing direct from ruger for below $900 if their able to sell for $1000 retail.

I'm talking about dealer imports and you keep referring back to a member of the public purchasing from a dealer in the US which is not the same thing at all.

Bad_alibi · 31-07-2016 9:45am

amadablam wrote: »

Thinking of buying one of these in the coming weeks. Without getting into it too much, does the folding stock take it into the restricted category?

No it's unrestricted.

Was taking to two dealers during the week who are out of stock and both said there's an order of them due in the end of this month. What caliber are you thinking of getting

Cass · 31-07-2016 12:30pm

I'm too tired to read back to start up the debate again so i'll leave it at this.

The prices in the states cannot be directly changed into Euros and used as a comparison. Irish dealers don't buy directly from the states. They get it from Europe and mostly the UK. Perhaps years ago they did, but with the down turn over the last 8 years not anymore.

I've said in a couple of thread before how a rifle i was looking at was sold by the manufacturer for $450 and by some dealers for $395. However the cheapest price i could find here was €850.

SO if some dealers in the US are selling cheaper than the RRP then bully for them. However one, two, five individual dealers selling cheaper, when there are as many selling for RRP and some selling for far more does not mean it can be gotten cheaper here.

The cheapest i've seen it advertised, and only advertised as the dealer says to order one, was for €1,675. That is $1870 and far more than the $1400 (or whatever it is) price tag the manufacturer has on it.

So if one dealer is charging more than the other then it's up to the buyer to see where is the price, best service and then buy from there. This happens all the time. I've seen CZ 455 (hmr) rifles for sale from €525 up to €650. Same rifle, same design, etc. So either a dealer is trying to make more or have more overheads so needs to charge more. Same with the Ruger.

amadablam · 31-07-2016 3:05pm

Bad_alibi wrote: »

No it's unrestricted.

Was taking to two dealers during the week who are out of stock and both said there's an order of them due in the end of this month. What caliber are you thinking of getting

Thanks

That's what I thought myself but someone put doubt in my mind about the folding stock making it restricted.

I'll either buy it in 308 or 243 depending on what caliber I decide to sell or trade

Bad_alibi · 31-07-2016 3:07pm

Having shouldered both the .243 is noticeable heavier than the .308 due to the longer barrel.

amadablam · 31-07-2016 10:36pm

Bad_alibi wrote: »

Having shouldered both the .243 is noticeable heavier than the .308 due to the longer barrel.

I was originally going to change the 6.5x55 for this rifle in 243 but think it might not be as good a caliber for deer as the 6.5, I've had most of them.

Has anyone shot one in 308? It's been almost a year since I had a 308 but I would like to hear how the chassis/stock handles recoil in 308

jb88 · 02-08-2016 3:53pm

EWQuinn wrote: »

What he meant to say was: "What other Ruger rifle can be counted on to shoot half-MOA five-shot groups?"

In my experience no Ruger factory rifle can be "counted on" to shoot sub MOA groups unless you're lucky. The one tested in American Rifleman shot sub MOA groups, not 1/2 MOA groups. This might be a landmark achievement for Ruger, yipee.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/7/17/ruger-precision-rifle/

at 100 yards my 10/22 (The receiver is a ruger) ;-) on a bench with the correct ammo. No Problem. I am not alone in being able to achieve this. It seems to be how most people test their firearms these days

I have fired one of these Ruger Precisions and they are nice, but any half decent rifle and scope should be able to get 3 - 5 rds touching at 100 yards.

Does 3 rds touching at 50m count :-) with the Ruger Precision .308

Cass · 02-08-2016 6:00pm

Not long in the door from Atlantic in Carlow. Had to stock up on a few calibers of ammo (including 9mm at a great price if anyone is looking for some).

Anyway the Ruger precisions are all gone. Last two went out the door last week. So never got to hold one, but they tell me they are getting more in, just waiting on confirmation.

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