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most politcally incorrect opinion?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,375 ✭✭✭fonpokno


    cautioner wrote: »
    Heroes wasn't the best...

    Would it annoy everyone if I argued a point with fonpokno? I feel like I'm being really... what's the word... anal.

    Argue away! I'm fervently pro-abortion but can never put my thoughts down without going wildly off-topic.

    It's on dude. *ding ding*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 862 ✭✭✭cautioner


    Cool beans.

    Moving on, we were studying genetics in Biology last week and the teacher was telling us about variations due to irregular numbers of chromosomes. She asked us what would happen if somehow an egg were to donate 2 X chromosomes, both being fertilised by a male Y. She drew an XXY zygote and said it happens quite often and the result is a "super-female". Oooh, intriguing.

    "What's that?"
    "It's a male with... female tendencies. I'll leave it up to ye to decide what that means. ;)"
    ":confused: ...Heh?"
    "Well, they'd be male, but... they'd be gay, wouldn't they!?"
    "Oh...
    I always thought it was a psychological thing or something to be honest miss?"
    "Oh God no, it's all in the genes"

    She then proceeded to make clear that she "didn't mind" the gays and that she couldn't "hold it against them" because it's in their genetic make-up.

    Is this as shockingly backwards as I think it is? She told us all this as firm fact, whereas I'm almost sure the whole thing is still a bit of a mystery...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭Aisling(",)


    I'm pro choice when it comes to abortion.
    If i found myself pregnant id definietly want to at least have the option of a termination even if i dont go through with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,375 ✭✭✭fonpokno


    Cautioner, is it the genetic "fact" that was presented to you that's backwards or the fact that she felt the need to tell you all that she didn't mind "the gays"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 862 ✭✭✭cautioner


    Bit of both. Mainly the fact; I found the whole "don't mind" thing more of an endearing sign of a woman born in a very different world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 367 ✭✭anladmór


    i think the roma are the most unfairly treated people in ireland and indeed all of europe today. never had a bad experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    fonpokno wrote: »

    Abortion should be legal here. Total bollocks that it isn't.

    +1.
    I am pro-choice also. The illegality of abortion is one of the very few things I hate about Ireland.
    I've mentioned this on a few other threads before but I don't believe an unborn child should have the same human rights as the mother. The mother's rights should always take precedence imo.
    God knows what kind of an arse they'd make out of abortion. We'd probably be left with a 6 month waiting list...

    Lol :pac:
    i suppose on other political opinions, i think it's complete bull**** that gay couples don't have marriage/partnership rights in ireland. i quite like new zealand's laws regarding common law partnership too, not to mention being able to get married anywehre you want (i think they recently passed something to that general effect in ireland, but that doesnt go quite as far). i think prostitution should be legal, and i'd like to see more open debate on legalising cannabis.
    +1 to all the above. Gay marriage should definitely be legal here.
    I'm undecided as to whether cannabis should be legalised or not (leaning towards it should be legal) but there should definitely be more debate about it.

    Not sure if I have any other "controversial" or "politically incorrect" opinion per se. I definitely think there should be harsher sentences for crimes in this country, but that's just common sense.
    I think prison should focus more on punishment than rehabilitation. Prisoners shouldn't be given any ****ing luxuries - it's not supposed to be a hotel or a holiday camp ffs.
    Life sentence should actually mean a life sentence. I am however opposed to the death penalty, mainly on the grounds that murderers/rapists/arsonists should not be provided with the luxury a quick and relatively painless death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    +1 to all the above.

    :cool:

    Not sure if I have any other "controversial" or "politically incorrect" opinion per se. I definitely think there should be harsher sentences for crimes in this country, but that's just common sense.
    I think prison should focus more on punishment than rehabilitation. Prisoners shouldn't be given any ****ing luxuries - it's not supposed to be a hotel or a holiday camp ffs.
    Life sentence should actually mean a life sentence. I am however opposed to the death penalty, mainly on the grounds that murderers/rapists/arsonists should not be provided with the luxury a quick and relatively painless death.

    the can has been opened.

    i agree with you here to a degree. some of the sentences being doled out are just a joke... but i do also think that there should be a lot more done to help with rehabilitation and helping a person get on their feet when they get out of prison, especially with regard to the more long-termers who become institutionalised.

    no matter what you think about people in certain social/demographics having as much free will as anyone else, the fact is, there are different cultures, different opportunities and different expectations put on people in different areas etc, and that the proof is in the prisons that there are certain groups of people a lot more likely to end up in there.

    i think a lot more effort needs to go into education in those areas, and not just education, but recreation, hobbies...

    government needs to sort out it's social housing policies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cocoa


    cautioner wrote: »
    Cool beans.

    Moving on, we were studying genetics in Biology last week and the teacher was telling us about variations due to irregular numbers of chromosomes. She asked us what would happen if somehow an egg were to donate 2 X chromosomes, both being fertilised by a male Y. She drew an XXY zygote and said it happens quite often and the result is a "super-female". Oooh, intriguing.

    "What's that?"
    "It's a male with... female tendencies. I'll leave it up to ye to decide what that means. ;)"
    ":confused: ...Heh?"
    "Well, they'd be male, but... they'd be gay, wouldn't they!?"
    "Oh...
    I always thought it was a psychological thing or something to be honest miss?"
    "Oh God no, it's all in the genes"

    She then proceeded to make clear that she "didn't mind" the gays and that she couldn't "hold it against them" because it's in their genetic make-up.

    Is this as shockingly backwards as I think it is? She told us all this as firm fact, whereas I'm almost sure the whole thing is still a bit of a mystery...

    If you're interested in all the genes malarky, checking the wikipedia article on klinefelter's syndrome (AKA XXY) would be a good place to start. Also, although it is one of the more common chromosome disorders, 1 in 500 males is hardly common... And although the nature versus nurture debate is ongoing, no, klinefelter's syndrome does not cause 'teh ghey'...

    It's actually kind of funny to see what happens when someone scrapes the surface of chromosome biology, ignores the conclusions of experts in the field and decides to draw their own instead... 'female tendencies', sheesh...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭Hamiltonion



    a inner city mans view on are liberal middle class college society

    Great spelling in this entry by someone bemoaning a middle class college society:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    suppose i'd better get my bit in
    XXY is not "super female" that's XXX and they're perfectly normal (for women)XXY is a freak of nature generally with both testes adn ovaries or neither and an interesting reproductive organ more one than the other if the rest is characterised by it

    also abortion is FTW i mean this whole thing of humans are so great i find it arrogant that we consider ourselves so highly we are animals and in the theory of natural selection unwanted traits die off eg. deafness/blindness
    therefore our overpopulation is elongating this contamination of the gene pool and so in time we may as a species end up as a goblin like mongrel due to our "compassion"

    also stem cells i mean i'm more important than an embryo i have millions of cells it's only one ,i win simple,also they are donated it's not as if someone goes around robbing peoples wombs to get them jeez


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 862 ✭✭✭cautioner


    suppose i'd better get my bit in
    XXY is not "super female" that's XXX and they're perfectly normal (for women)XXY is a freak of nature generally with both testes adn ovaries or neither and an interesting reproductive organ more one than the other if the rest is characterised by it

    also abortion is FTW i mean this whole thing of humans are so great i find it arrogant that we consider ourselves so highly we are animals and in the theory of natural selection unwanted traits die off eg. deafness/blindness
    therefore our overpopulation is elongating this contamination of the gene pool and so in time we may as a species end up as a goblin like mongrel due to our "compassion"


    also stem cells i mean i'm more important than an embryo i have millions of cells it's only one ,i win simple,also they are donated it's not as if someone goes around robbing peoples wombs to get them jeez

    I'm trying my best not to say this, but I can't help it, but there's so many reasons not to, but God...
    How very Hitler of you.


    Aaaaaaaargh I went there, I'm sorry, I know, I don't deserve to debate these things on the internet anymore :mad:

    Was just poking around on the XXY thing too, in some cases it can cause hermaphroditism but not many; usually it's just gives random characteristics like lankiness and sometimes epic man boobs :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    i don't intend to carry out my belief
    but we ARE animals and so i find it disturbing that we think we can f*** with nature and be all cool n' stuff
    we have no right to upset the balance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    the can has been opened.

    i agree with you here to a degree. some of the sentences being doled out are just a joke... but i do also think that there should be a lot more done to help with rehabilitation and helping a person get on their feet when they get out of prison, especially with regard to the more long-termers who become institutionalised.

    no matter what you think about people in certain social/demographics having as much free will as anyone else, the fact is, there are different cultures, different opportunities and different expectations put on people in different areas etc, and that the proof is in the prisons that there are certain groups of people a lot more likely to end up in there.

    i think a lot more effort needs to go into education in those areas, and not just education, but recreation, hobbies...

    government needs to sort out it's social housing policies.

    I have no objection to more money going into education/recreation for poorer areas - I'd be all for those proposals.
    Also if a prisoner serves his/her time and comes out ready and willing to be a good, law-abiding citizen then I don't object to them being given a little help getting back on track with their lives.
    However, I believe some people are beyond rehabilitation and if they're not willing to lead an honest life outside prison then they should be locked up and left there.
    Great spelling in this entry by someone bemoaning a middle class college society:rolleyes:
    Infracted for unnecessary cheap dig at other user.
    cautioner wrote: »
    I'm trying my best not to say this, but I can't help it, but there's so many reasons not to, but God...
    How very Hitler of you.


    Aaaaaaaargh I went there, I'm sorry, I know, I don't deserve to debate these things on the internet anymore :mad:
    Godwin 1, cautioner 0.

    Please don't compare other users with Hitler (unless perhaps they have an amusing Charlie Chaplin-esque moustache.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    I have no objection to more money going into education/recreation for poorer areas - I'd be all for those proposals.
    Also if a prisoner serves his/her time and comes out ready and willing to be a good, law-abiding citizen then I don't object to them being given a little help getting back on track with their lives.
    However, I believe some people are beyond rehabilitation and if they're not willing to lead an honest life outside prison then they should be locked up and left there.

    but the people beyond rehabilitation... how do you decide who they are?
    same as my stance on the death sentence, really. i couldnt live in a country with the death sentence... i don't believe in it in general... but i just couldnt trust that someone innocent wasnt gonna end up in there at some point.
    Godwin 1, cautioner 0.

    Please don't compare other users with Hitler (unless perhaps they have an amusing Charlie Chaplin-esque moustache.)

    :cool::D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭seamus-2k7


    I hate french people and France
    I know some(not many) french people are okay. To me they are arrogant, stuck up, ignorant etc. all sorts of stuff. I hate them. I hate France because there re so many french people. I feel sorry for you french people out there you can't help who you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    Hating a whole nation/race is ridiculous. The are over 61 million people living in France - I assume you have not met them all.
    Maybe the ones you have met were not nice people, but there are plenty of stuck up arrogant Irish people aswell. (You can substitute any nationality for Irish here.)
    I know a few French people and they are among the nicest people I have ever met.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    My controversial opinion? More people should give up driving and instead should use bikes as their primary mode of transport for any trips under 5 miles in distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    all children under 7 should not be allowed in public areas like restaurants and shopping centres. The kids don't like it, the parents get annoyed and everyone in the area has a crap time. Get a babysitter or stay at home breeders.

    Also belive that corporal punishment should still be in schools.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Off topic posts deleted.

    FFS, use the report button or PM a mod if you're unhappy with something posted, don't comment on it in the thread. And if someone does comment, don't reply to it and proceed to have an off topic discussion about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭innercitydub1


    Great spelling in this entry by someone bemoaning a middle class college society:rolleyes:


    ignore the grammer and you cant deny the points been made in the post

    If you cant look by the spelling mistakes i did not correct as i dont spend hours and hours perfecting my posts with a dodgy keyborad i just cant be arsed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    My most controversial opinion would probably be my fervant belief that Islam is a dangerous violent creed which is an enormous threat to western civilization.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,878 ✭✭✭Rozabeez


    Pro-choice also. It annoys me that the majority of Pro-life people I've come across are male.

    My very politically incorrect opinion is: No womb, no opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    Rozabeez wrote: »
    Pro-choice also. It annoys me that the majority of Pro-life people I've come across are male.

    My very politically incorrect opinion is: No womb, no opinion.

    Oi! I don't have a womb but I'm pro-choice. Am I not allowed an opinion? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Rozabeez wrote: »
    Pro-choice also. It annoys me that the majority of Pro-life people I've come across are male.

    My very politically incorrect opinion is: No womb, no opinion.
    How is having a womb relevant to whether abortion is wrong or right?

    Now I'm very much on the pro-choice/pro-abortion side, but you've gotta understand that excluding men's opinions on the basis of them never possibly being in the situation, is, from the perspective of the pro life side, essentially excluding them because they'll never be in the position of having the decision to kill a baby or endure an inconvenient 9 months.

    Excluding the opinions of people who would never be capable of committing some act on whether the act is in fact a crime or not, would be a pretty crappy legal system.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Rozabeez wrote:
    Pro-choice also. It annoys me that the majority of Pro-life people I've come across are male.

    My very politically incorrect opinion is: No womb, no opinion.
    Oi! I don't have a womb but I'm pro-choice. Am I not allowed an opinion? :(
    JC 2K3 wrote: »
    How is having a womb relevant to whether abortion is wrong or right?
    ...

    One other fault there Roz: you're suggesting that women who have undergone a hysterectomy should have no voice in relation to the matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Rozabeez wrote: »
    My very politically incorrect opinion is: No womb, no opinion.

    You cant become pregnant without sperm, No Jizz, No Opinion.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,878 ✭✭✭Rozabeez


    Gentlemen, it's my most politically incorrect opinion, I don't REALLY see the need to defend it, but if I must;

    That's more of a slogan that gets thrown around, what I really mean is I don't think that men should find it ok to tell women NOT to have an abortion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    But it's ok for other women to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,375 ✭✭✭fonpokno


    Rozabeez wrote: »
    That's more of a slogan that gets thrown around, what I really mean is I don't think that men should find it ok to tell women NOT to have an abortion.

    Yeah, that wrecks my head too. No offence to any of the wonderful menfolk here but if any man ever tried to tell me to not have an abortion I would be hugely unimpressed. My OH has said that if it ever happens then it's my body so it's my decision and I have to agree with him. Of course if any woman told me I couldn't have an abortion, I'd tell her to feck off too.

    I also hate the way some anti-abortion people push their agenda EVERYWHERE. You even see it on PI, someone will come on asking what their options are and all of a sudden the anti-abortion brigade appear and bash the poor woman crying murderer and telling her to go through 9 months of carrying around a kid that she wants nothing to do with.


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    fonpokno wrote: »
    Yeah, that wrecks my head too. No offence to any of the wonderful menfolk here but if any man ever tried to tell me to not have an abortion I would be hugely unimpressed. My OH has said that if it ever happens then it's my body so it's my decision and I have to agree with him. Of course if any woman told me I couldn't have an abortion, I'd tell her to feck off too.

    I also hate the way some anti-abortion people push their agenda EVERYWHERE. You even see it on PI, someone will come on asking what their options are and all of a sudden the anti-abortion brigade appear and bash the poor woman crying murderer and telling her to go through 9 months of carrying around a kid that she wants nothing to do with.
    While I don't disagree with abortion per se.All abortions are done for selfish reasons.It is the easy way out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,375 ✭✭✭fonpokno


    While I don't disagree with abortion per se.All abortions are done for selfish reasons.It is the easy way out.

    Exactly. It is the easy way out and if it comes to it I'm going to be selfish and take it. I'm going to be selfish enough to choose to live my life the way I want instead of ruining another. I won't ruin a child's life by resenting it or by trying to look after it when I've no job and no degree. I won't ruin my parents lives by inflicting another child on them when they've already raised their own. I won't ruin my boyfriend's life by placing the huge responsibility of a child on his shoulders.

    Easy way out ftw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    fonpokno wrote: »
    Yeah, that wrecks my head too. No offence to any of the wonderful menfolk here but if any man ever tried to tell me to not have an abortion I would be hugely unimpressed. My OH has said that if it ever happens then it's my body so it's my decision and I have to agree with him. Of course if any woman told me I couldn't have an abortion, I'd tell her to feck off too.
    Surely that renders such a singling out of men as completely and utterly redundant?

    Also, abortion isn't selfish IMO. It's only selfish if you actually believe you're killing a human with a valid right to life. Just because something's easier than an alternative doesn't make less of a valid option, or selfish in any way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    I'm numb to all this war and starving children in Africa. If there is nothing that I can do to stop it then I couldn't give a flying ****.

    Sorrt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    While I don't disagree with abortion per se.All abortions are done for selfish reasons.It is the easy way out.
    It would be a lot more selfish to bering an unwanted child into the world tbh.

    Ideally, I wish there was no pro-life agenda anywhere whatsoever. I'm sorry but I just cannot take anyone who says "life begins at conception" seriously.
    I'm numb to all this war and starving children in Africa. If there is nothing that I can do to stop it then I couldn't give a flying ****.

    Sorrt

    I'm kind of like that aswell. If half a billion people were wiped out the face of the planet tomorrow by war/famine/tsunami/whatever I doubt I'd care too much as long as none of them were people I actually cared about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 862 ✭✭✭cautioner


    I think smoking should be made completely illegal. Offenders will be punished by slow, painful death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭Lynskey


    <sigh> Teenagers.....God's way of punishing us for having sex


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭Synods


    I'm kind of like that aswell. If half a billion people were wiped out the face of the planet tomorrow by war/famine/tsunami/whatever I doubt I'd care too much as long as none of them were people I actually cared about.[/quote]

    it would be way easier to care if these people we saw on these adds were white. I don't mean we should only care about white people, thats not my opinion at all!! but we have to admit that it is easier to identify with people who we could imagine as our own friends/family/etc.
    I do agree too that we have seen so much of these harrowing pictures of famine struck kids in the third world that they've lost their "shock" factor. sometimes it can just seem that there are so many things f***ed up in the world that we have just gone beyond help....

    Anywho....my politically incorrect opinion is that i am sick of all these funds and resources being pumped into the "disadvantaged" areas of the large towns and cities when all the recipients seem to do is persist in committing the same crimes and causing the same problems. there are undoubtedly problems in these areas, im not trying to take away from that, but there are just as many problems in the rest of the country and we dont get half the help these people do!!! Why is it that just because you come from Ballyfermot or Newcastle West you get the help and money from our government when somebody living in a rural area who could equally need help gets ignored?!!!

    Perhaps if these people who, having gotten help from the state but failed to take it, should have their benefits taken from them so they can be used in an area where they are just as equally needed, and make these wasters truly appreciate what they're getting!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    I suppose my most ''un-PC" opinion is that I really don't care too much about giving to animal welfare charities *awaits angry mob*

    Don't get me wrong, I do hate cruelty to animals, I just feel we should put humans' needs first. Basically, when I see that Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall chap on TV banging on about the poor battery-farm chickens , on one hand I'm thinking 'fair play to him' but then I see an ad for Concern or Trocaire or even see disadvantaged or disabled kids in Ireland and think "He could really do more worthwhile things if he campaigned for human rights..."

    Personally, I always give to a 'human' charity over an animal one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    I'm numb to all this war and starving children in Africa. If there is nothing that I can do to stop it then I couldn't give a flying ****.

    Sorrt
    well my theory is take all the weapons/bullets in africa and open fire,then melt the guns into cans ,fill them and feed the surviors,no more wars no more famine and they'll think twice about asking for our help the next time
    Acacia wrote: »
    I suppose my most ''un-PC" opinion is that I really don't care too much about giving to animal welfare charities *awaits angry mob*


    Personally, I always give to a 'human' charity over an animal one.
    to be fair animals rarely do some of the bad s*** people do to each other and the fact charity workers wages come out of donation's i think is b***ox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Acacia wrote: »
    I suppose my most ''un-PC" opinion is that I really don't care too much about giving to animal welfare charities *awaits angry mob*


    Id prefer to give money to an Animal Welfare charity than an Animal Rights Charity, pfffffffffft animals to have rights, but they shouldnt be treated cruelly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    to be fair animals rarely do some of the bad s*** people do to each other and the fact charity workers wages come out of donation's i think is b***ox

    Not all charity workers wages come out of donations . I would check with each individual charity before making a donation to make sure it goes to the victims in question.

    And I know animals don't do 'bad ****' to us as you say, and they shouldn't be treated cruelly (I'm opposed to hunting and blood-sports , for example). However, I wouldn't give money to take a dog off the streets when there are children in the developing world living in sewers or on rubbish tips. That's just how I feel.
    Fad wrote: »
    Id prefer to give money to an Animal Welfare charity than an Animal Rights Charity, pfffffffffft animals to have rights, but they shouldnt be treated cruelly.

    What's the difference between an animal rights charity and an animal welfare charity?:confused:


  • Posts: 8,647 [Deleted User]


    cautioner wrote: »
    I think smoking should be made completely illegal. Offenders will be punished by slow, painful death.

    I thought lung cancer was a slow painful death.


  • Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭pagancornflake


    Liberal douches i call them

    rich middle class only concerned with the world around them cause its popular culture

    they will tend to no alot about propaganda gave to them about the envoirment, world hunger, human rights yet bring them on a bus journey into dublins inner city and they dont give a .... or not no these problems even exsisted.

    try tell them that dublins inner city makes up for 91 percent of crime
    prison system made up of 70 percent from dublins inner city
    highest rates of poverty very low funded education In Ireland

    This is what i find very hard to understand, you try get it through to there head about these social problems and your called small minded

    yet put your world hunger t shirt on and cheer in barcak obama and claim to be so in touch with the world as your smugness chokes real ireland to deathwith political sensitive buzzwords intrests groups who claim to repersent the poor when they dont have the slighest clue about poverty

    i shall leave at this but are new Irish liberal society claim to be open minded and free speech yet refuse or have diffrent ideolgys than thses people or just dont want anything rammed down your throat about al the worlds problems but are own..your automaticly classed as small minded a bigot a racist or a facist

    they say they repersent the left what the hell is the left do you repersent the left cause its cool do you repersent it cause its cool to.they where there che t shirts yet ask them about socilism they will not have a slightest clue what your talking about
    if someone asks me what side i stand on my reply always is any side your not

    Wake up and look at the city around you stop been so smug about everything if you realy want to make a difrence

    a inner city mans view on are liberal middle class college society

    "rich middle class only concerned with the world around them cause its popular culture"

    I can tell that you are lower middle class by looking at your spelling. Silly poor people whining about their failures. Listening to it always puts a smile on my face.

    "rich middle class only concerned with the world around them cause its popular culture"

    Pff, lrn2sociology. My family is extremely rich. I mean seriously, we could BUY and SELL you ass and make substantial profits from your assets (pun intended- behold the benefits of superior upper middle class hereditary intelligence). Despite our potential for eminence, we are hermits and we dont care about the world around us in the slightest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Acacia wrote: »

    What's the difference between an animal rights charity and an animal welfare charity?:confused:

    Animal Rights would be like PETA claiming animals deserve total liberation and ya know rights.

    Welfare would be like the ISPCC, saying you shouldnt beat the **** out of dogs and cats, go ahead and keep as pets, theyre loving companions, and we'll be damned if we'll stop you eating em.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    Fad wrote: »
    Animal Rights would be like PETA claiming animals deserve total liberation and ya know rights.

    Welfare would be like the ISPCC, saying you shouldnt beat the **** out of dogs and cats, go ahead and keep as pets, theyre loving companions, and we'll be damned if we'll stop you eating em.

    Ah, okay, I get you now. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad



    Pff, lrn2sociology. My family is extremely rich. I mean seriously, we could BUY and SELL you ass and make substantial profits from your assets

    And aren't you all the better with you're wealth and level headedness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    to be fair animals rarely do some of the bad s*** people do to each other and the fact charity workers wages come out of donation's i think is b***ox


    Are they supposed to do it for the laugh then?

    Charity Workers need a wage too:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 862 ✭✭✭cautioner


    Acacia wrote:
    Personally, I always give to a 'human' charity over an animal one.
    Agree 100% - in theory (can't remember the last time I donated)
    thought lung cancer was a slow painful death.
    My attempt at irony = fail.
    Fad wrote:
    Animal Rights would be like PETA claiming animals deserve total liberation and ya know rights.
    People for the Eating of Tasty Animals?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    cautioner wrote: »
    I'm trying my best not to say this, but I can't help it, but there's so many reasons not to, but God...
    How very Hitler of you.
    cautioner wrote: »
    I think smoking should be made completely illegal. Offenders will be punished by slow, painful death.
    You know what's ironic about this? Guess which vehemently anti-smoking leader lead the biggest anti-smoking campaign in the world in the 30s and 40s?


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