Civilization 5

Maximilian · 21-09-2010 12:49pm

nesf wrote: »

Man, Civ I's graphics were so, so much better in my memories!

lol yeah. That's exactly what I thought too.

nesf · 21-09-2010 4:03pm

Demo downloading in Steam.

*rubs hands in glee*

TwoShedsJackson · 21-09-2010 4:07pm

nesf wrote: »

Demo downloading in Steam.

*rubs hands in glee*

What size is the demo?

Niska · 21-09-2010 4:18pm

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

What size is the demo?

4G more or less.

TwoShedsJackson · 21-09-2010 4:21pm

Niska wrote: »

4G more or less.

Bloody hell the full game was 4.3GB and the demo is another 4? Bah.

nesf · 21-09-2010 4:23pm

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

What size is the demo?

Yeah 4GB or thereabouts. Am extremely thankful that this coincided with me moving to a new house with a 30Mb net connection!

TwoShedsJackson · 21-09-2010 4:37pm

I have a 7 meg connection so it shouldn't take too long, I was just hoping it would be about 1GB so it would take less and I can be playing it sooner when I get in from work

nesf · 21-09-2010 4:43pm

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

I have a 7 meg connection so it shouldn't take too long, I was just hoping it would be about 1GB so it would take less and I can be playing it sooner when I get in from work

Connection speed was decent, so should download fairly fast for you. Regardless, by this stage a half hour's wait or whatever just makes the opening cinematic scenes that bit more tantalising!

Gonzovision · 21-09-2010 5:23pm

Gonna take ages here in 3mb land:(

ShaneU · 21-09-2010 5:27pm

20 minutes on a 15mb connection

Sephiroth_dude · 21-09-2010 5:29pm

download is at 88%@780kb,almost have it

Blowfish · 21-09-2010 5:42pm

Download is a fair bit slower for the demo than the pre-load unfortunately.

I'm on the 30mb UPC and the pre-load was at 3.2MB/s, but the demo is only at 1MB/s

Sephiroth_dude · 21-09-2010 5:44pm

So what are peoples first impressions of the demo?

Blowfish · 21-09-2010 6:33pm

Certainly very "pretty" UI and art wise. The layout will probably take a short while to get used to, though everything being out of the way is quite nice. I'll have to see if it's possible to shrink the size of the unit picture in the bottom left and the research icon in the top left. They seem a bit disproportionate, especially in comparison to the minimap.

Naturally enough though, it'll take a fair bit longer than the 20 mins I've had so far to see how good the actual 'meat' of the game is.

[edit] Nice one, they thought of that. There's a 'use small scale interface' in the options. It's not available in the demo, but good to know for release.

Niska · 21-09-2010 9:30pm

Played through the demo a few times now. Wow - those 150 turns just fly by.

The hexes work brilliantly and the minimalist UI is pretty and functional - though it does take a little getting used to. Everything seems to be there, you just need to dig a little.

The new features seem to work fine as well - the city states add some sense of population (not just you and the NPC Civs), and the Natural Wonders (from Civ Rev) are a nice touch, and an additional feature to landgrab over.

The ability to accelerate cultural zones by buying specific hexes is both inspired and expensive. I need to study the Social Policies (kinda like Talent Trees in World of Warcraft et al) some more, but the system seems to be intuitive and deep, with some nice options. Hopefully they can influence the game in numerous ways and not just end up with a default "uber-policy".

Can't wait 'til Friday.

Took a while to recognize the voice - it's William Morgan Sheppard. Really like the husky delivery - but miss Nimoy's a bit.

nesf · 21-09-2010 9:59pm

UI is very pretty, though I'm having some graphical issues with roads not drawing properly and farms only appearing on one half of a hex etc. (ATI 4850 card)

Demo is short, 100 turns. Game looks good, the limitation of one unit per unit of iron is going to make things very interesting on smaller maps!

smk89 · 21-09-2010 10:10pm

4Gb!! I think I'll wait till I'm in college tomorrow.

Maximilian · 22-09-2010 12:36am

I'll just leave this here.

Manach · 22-09-2010 12:39am

Ohh shiny

sionnach · 22-09-2010 12:57am

Playing as Napoleon, have only played for 2/3 hours or so but loving it so far. City states are pretty nifty and the combat is much more involving.

ranged land attacks by naval units. My graphics card (8600GT) is struggling a bit @ 1920 x 1080, might be time for an upgrade ):

youcancallmeal · 22-09-2010 9:35am

Anyone know if Civ5 supports dual screens and if so in what capacity? Googling doesn't seems to bring back anything concrete. This seems like the perfect type of game to take of advantage of a dual screen setup. Maybe have an overview map on one side with current stats and main gameplay on the other screen

TwoShedsJackson · 22-09-2010 9:53am

My PC is creaking a bit now at 2 1/2 years old but the game runs well at 1680 x 1050 with most options on medium. I like it a lot, will take a bit of getting used to but looking very promising.

There's a ridiculous amount of pissing and moaning going on at civfanatics, people seem to forget the state Civ 4 was in when that was released.

cherryghost · 22-09-2010 11:13am

Demo is epic. Love what they've done to it.

EDIT: Should also say, getting about 90FPS on my rig completely maxed out

i7 860 @ 3.5ghz
8gb DDR3 RAM
GTX 295
Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Sephiroth_dude · 22-09-2010 12:55pm

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

My PC is creaking a bit now at 2 1/2 years old but the game runs well at 1680 x 1050 with most options on medium. I like it a lot, will take a bit of getting used to but looking very promising.

There's a ridiculous amount of pissing and moaning going on at civfanatics, people seem to forget the state Civ 4 was in when that was released.

What specs you got?my machine is just over 2yrs old too.

TwoShedsJackson · 22-09-2010 1:33pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

What specs you got?my machine is just over 2yrs old too.

AMD 3 GHz dual core, 4 GB RAM, ATI 9600 512MB

abelard · 22-09-2010 1:52pm

All I can say for now is i really like the aesthetics!

Will get stuck in to a full campaign later today.

smk89 · 22-09-2010 2:02pm

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

AMD 3 GHz dual core, 4 GB RAM, ATI 9600 512MB

Have you tried canyourunit.com? Civ v is listed there

22-09-2010 2:16pm

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

There's a ridiculous amount of pissing and moaning going on at civfanatics, people seem to forget the state Civ 4 was in when that was released.

Are you a regular there? I post in the off-topic section only.

Am waiting until Friday to get it - I am a bit busy at the minute to try the demo.

gunner_twotone · 22-09-2010 2:41pm

Oh god!!!! in 27 hours I shall be palying it!

There's still alot of talk about the system requirments of the game, im terrified that my rig will run Civ 5 at a good speed but with Civ 1 graphics!!

BKtje · 22-09-2010 3:57pm

Have you tried canyourunit.com? Civ v is listed there

I tried it and failed as it belives that my cpu is less than 1.8ghz even though in the result it states i have 2.4. I'll just roll my eyes and start my pre download

Gonzovision · 22-09-2010 4:58pm

BKtje wrote: »

I tried it and failed as it belives that my cpu is less than 1.8ghz even though in the result it states i have 2.4. I'll just roll my eyes and start my pre download

That sites crap, way off with specs for most people

cherryghost · 22-09-2010 5:03pm

I got Civ V demo working on my cheap laptop:

1.5ghz core 2
2GB RAM
8400GS M
Windows XP SP3

Got it at lowest settings on low resolution. Running at about 20fps with occassional dips to 15-16fps. Very playable for a strategy game by the way :pac: Time taken between turns takes an age though.

Gonzovision · 22-09-2010 5:06pm

I've noticed from the demo end of turn times take considerably longer in early game than any of the previous games. I'm a bit worried that they'll take an age come later game.

TwoShedsJackson · 22-09-2010 5:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you a regular there? I post in the off-topic section only.

Am waiting until Friday to get it - I am a bit busy at the minute to try the demo.

No I only post the odd time, usually just read the strategy guides etc once the game's been out for a while. The General Discussion forum around the time of a release is a cess pool of stupidity.

nesf · 23-09-2010 3:42am

Game unlocks at midnight, for any who weren't aware..

TwoShedsJackson · 23-09-2010 9:39am

Anyone with the full game got any comments on the diplomacy and/or AI? It's getting a bashing in some reviews on these areas.

cherryghost · 23-09-2010 2:07pm

Pre-loaded the full game now. Not sure of the diplomacy to be honest. Dont think it will bother me anyway. The demo showed that the game is still extremely in-depth and intuitive

BULLER · 23-09-2010 5:53pm

Played my first campagn there last night - I'm officially in love. WHAT A GAME!!
The interface is so smooth and smart. Really refined feel to everything. No religion

(Hated it in Civ4!)
The battle stratagies are much more immersive. I didn't think they'd be able to get me off Civ3 after the last iteration didnt do it for me; now they have!
Best anology for me is Windows.
Civ3 = XP, fast + effective.

Civ4 = Vista, nice gfx but buggy and sluggish :rolleyes:
Civ5 = 7, gfx + fast + effective!

One more turn. . . .

Sephiroth_dude · 23-09-2010 7:53pm

Loved the demo,pity it ended at 100 turns,roll on tomorrow,hopefully I can scrape the funds together to buy it

Gonzovision · 23-09-2010 7:57pm

Have the retail edition here but won't let me install until 12.

bleg · 23-09-2010 9:26pm

Just dispatched from Amazon:D Should arrive early next week. Can't stand the demo, just building up a nice civilization then BAM! game over... so frustrating!!

Gonzovision · 24-09-2010 12:05am

Arghhhhh looks like another hour........

cherryghost · 24-09-2010 12:42am

God damnit c'mooooon

Gonzovision · 24-09-2010 1:10am

Still not working for me :mad:

Blowfish · 24-09-2010 1:12am

gonzovision wrote: »

Still not working for me :mad:

Restart Steam. The button will then change from pre-load to play.

Gonzovision · 24-09-2010 1:15am

Blowfish wrote: »

Restart Steam. The button will then change from pre-load to play.

Must have restarted it 10 times....... seems a lot of people on steam forums are having the same issue with the boxed copy

Gonzovision · 24-09-2010 1:37am

At last......:)

cherryghost · 24-09-2010 1:49am

yeah was working for me too, but eh... waiting on F1 2010 now...

Mantel · 24-09-2010 10:31am

gonzovision wrote: »

Have the retail edition here but won't let me install until 12.

Did it come with a key? If so you might have been able to plug it in to steam and do the pre-load. Decrypting still takes awhile though

I had a short 2 hour game this morning on Chieftain, the AI didn't do much, Gandi is sitting in a single city churning out wonders, Elizabeth seems to be bipolar, likes me one turn and cancels our treaties a few turns later and it looks like the Russians are the only real competition on the continent. There where a load of city states taking up valuable city building room though

Have to wonder if they're really worth it but this game is quite different to the previous one.

Blowfish · 24-09-2010 10:45am

Mantel wrote: »

There where a load of city states taking up valuable city building room though Have to wonder if they're really worth it but this game is quite different to the previous one.

Some are some aren't, in my case one city state in particular is incredibly useful.

I started off on Warlord (still pretty easy at that level) as the Romans. Since both unique Roman units depend on iron it's a pretty important resource for me, but I only have 2 in my own territory. I discovered soon enough though that one of the city states on the other side of the continent had no less than 8 in it's territory. It'd take far too much of my army/resources to wade the whole way across the continent to it, so I just became allies with them to get the iron and pumped out a load more Legions, leading me to be able to absolutely destroy all my neighbours.

They also come in quite handy as buffer states. At one point the French and Chinese both declared war on me (a good bit prior to my iron windfall) as I had been lazy with keeping up a decent sized army. I became allies with 3 of the city states that were sitting directly between me and the French to the south who had a larger army than me. The city states immediately declared war on the French/Chinese too. Between them and one or two of my units, we were able rebuff the French attacks to the South, which let me focus my main army (only about 4 units) on the Chinese to the East.

Civilization 5

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