Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

Hennessy - Retired. Plenty of cover anyway
Connors - Not ruled out
S O'Sullivan - seems to be going but i bet he could be convinced to stay around yet
BOS - Wouldnt be starting anyway
DOS - dont know where that came from
Kelly - Not ruled out
Paudie Mahony - the only one definetly out

Clinton retired - but we have no notion as to who will start in goals, you could draw straws for Adrian Power, Stephen O' Keeffe or Ian O Regan. Hardly ideal not having a settled keeper.
Noel Connors - talking to him last week, chances are extremely slim, plus he hasn't hurled in over 6 months, could you really start a championship game and be up to that intensity?
Shane O S has tickets and visa, last chance for j1, with bos going as well, he's unlikely to change.
Kelly - swelling is so severe at the moment the doctors can't tell whether the 2 fractures are old ones or a new injury, but will need cast on for a few weeks and with limited training so far, again difficult to get up to intensity.

Indeeed I can give some info about tonights game.

Squad really cut down at the moment due to injuries, exams and Shanes decision to go abroad. Thankfully most of the injuries seem just to be knocks from a couple of hard rounds of club championship so hopefully some of the walking wounded will be back for the Wexford game on Saturday.

Firstly, Dublin had an almost full strength team out with only two players, from what would be considered their strongest team, missing. Those two being Paul Ryan and Danny Sutcliffe. Hiney, Tomas Brady and Conal Keaney all started and looked pretty sharp. Dublin were very up for it. Very physical game but Waterford gave every bit as good as they got. Weren't afraid to get stuck in. Eoin McGrath had a right scuffle with his marker towards the end too. The intensity and passion just seemed that bit better, which you'd expect now coming back to county after some good tough club games.

With regard to the squad being stretched, there were only 17 outfield players available with the three keepers also togged.

The starting team was;

1 - SOK
2 - Philip Mahony
3 - Ringo
4 - Stephen Daniels
5 - Tony
6 - Brick
7 - Wayne Hutchinson
8 - Kevin Moran
9 - Richie Foley
10 - Paul O'Brien
11 - Seamus
12 - Martin O'Neill
13 - Tommy Ryan
14 - Shane Casey
15 - Gav O'Brien

Three subs were Eoin McGrath, Stevie Molumphy and David O'Sullivan. The three boys saw most of the second half. Adrian Power played the second half.


The final score was 0-20 to 0-20. Drawn game and a tale of two halves really. Strong enough breeze which aided the teams playing with. Waterford bossed the first half with Dublin coming back strong for the first twenty minutes or so of the second with the lads picking it up score the last three I think and almost snatch the win too.

SOK was again good. Made one great save, other than that puckouts were good and was doing a lot of talking keeping the full back line on their toes. Adrian came on for second half, did ok other than one or two errant puckouts. Still very hard to choose between these two. It would look as if Iggy is very much the tird choice at the moment, we'll see if he gets game time V Wexford.

Full back line was very good. Dublin really only had the one goal chance which SOK saved. Both corner backs really stood out, a few neutral wexford men standing around me singled the two of them out for praise. Ringo also did pretty well on Liam Rushe.

A lot of Dublins scores came from their half forward line. Keaney got I think 4 from play off Tony in the first half and they won a lot frees in their half forwards. Wayne Hutchinson grew into the game as it went on, caught some good ball and showed his physical presence. I was pleasantly surprised at his fitness levels. Didn't look at all off the pace, just needs more game time really. Brick was Brick. David O'Sullivan came on for Tony at half time and did ok but still it looked, at times, a little too easy for the Dubs breaking through from midfield.

Kevin Moran did well again. Very consistent. Richie Foley was certainly the player I was most impressed with. He was all over the place, got a couple of very good scores and generally put in a really good shift. As with Wayne, Richie has really got himself back in shape very quickly after surgery.

Paul O'Brien ran hard all day and got a score or two. Seamus at times was very good, caught good ball, got two very good scores, made a general nuisance with his physical presence but drifted out of the game a couple of times and Tomas Brady at centre back for Dublin dictated quite a bit of the play in the first twenty of the second half. Martin O'Neill excelled from the placed ball. Must have had eleven or twelve points. Worked hard all game too, you know what you get with Martin, he'll give you a hundred per cent every time. Molumphy came on in the second half and won a lot of dirty ball out around midfield and hit a very good score.

Full forward line actually didnt see too much of the ball. Dublin full back line was very physical to the point of being cynical, it was the repetitive fouling that started Eoin Mcs scrap. Shane Casey got on the ball a few times but found it difficult to get his man turned and get space for a shot. Gavin looked tired to be honest and Eoin came on for him at half time. Tommy Ryan tried hard and did well creating a couple of scores without being standout. No real goal chances for us that I can remember now.

Lads who were on the sideline but not togged were Mullane, Dean Twomey, Liam Lawlor and Maurice. All seemed to moving relatively well. Maurice certainly wasnt casted or bandaged up so it looks as if his hand injury isnt too bad. If Mullane is injured it may partly explain how quiet he was against FMW (im not taking anything away from the fourmile performance by the way, and I too feel they are third ranked club team currently) No sign of Noel Connors, Shane Walsh, Eoin Kelly, Daragh Fives..... Paudie Mahony was there too and seemed in good form, tipping a few balls around at half time.

Considering the strength of the Dublin team out and the extent of the injury "crisis" at the moment it was a very good team performance. There could be six or seven lads to come into the waterford team if all were available. It gave fringe players a good oppertunity and some showed well. It shows there is a bit of strength in depth in the panel. I just hope that between Saturdays challenge and the next round of club championship there are no more injuries. Fingers crossed!

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mccarthy37 wrote: »

Any word on the football team for Sunday. Limerick seem to be very confident of turning us over as they are talking about facing Clare already. Surprised there isn't much talk about this game with only a few days to go. Good luck to Jackson with the junior team I would love if any of the teams got a win.

Despite beating Limerick in the league again this year, I wouldn't be too optimistic of a win.

We're missing Gary Hurney who every team is worried about, as well as Ferncombe and I'm not sure about the availability of the likes of Whyte either.

I noticed that Waterford didn't have any representation at the launch of the Munster Championship recently, the only county not to have someone there. Sends out all the wrong kind of signals.

With respect to Kiely I think that the junior championship is a waste of time at this point. Counties like Cork have used it wisely to bring on good club players and guys out of minor and U21 who didn't make senior straight away. We don't have the same need for it or the same approach as far as I can see. Same goes for intermediate hurling.

mccarthy37 wrote: »

I knew the news was bad concerning Gary Hurney what a shame when you think how poorly our minor and under 21 teams fared out this year, the bad news seems to be pilling up. I wonder is it time to concentrate on one code in this county. Football grabbed the limelight a few year ago but it seems to have slipped back and there's no sign of panic from the County Board with money being so tight I guess they have enough on their plate at the present time. Ah well here's hoping for Sunday you never know.

In 2011 they played in Div 3 and were unlucky to drop a division and made the last 16 in the Championship. While the good underage talent that became available in the last 10 years wasn't utilised, I think you're jumping the gun a bit.

hardybuck wrote: »

In 2011 they played in Div 3 and were unlucky to drop a division and made the last 16 in the Championship. While the good underage talent that became available in the last 10 years wasn't utilised, I think you're jumping the gun a bit.

Totally agree with you there, were very unlucky in Div 3 last season. The games that were lost were by only a point or two so an additional season in Div 3 would have been of great benefit so the earlier suggestion that the county should concentrate on one code is some what of a joke considering if you look at the majority of rural clubs outside of the city where football seems stronger. The work is being done at club level and this work should have the county as a Div 3 side or perhap Div 2 so is the county board to blame.

DublinGAA96 wrote: »

A colleague of mine spoke to somebody close to the senior hurlers very recently saying things aren't going well at all in training and that. I don't know what to believe but its just what I've been told.

Yea shur my cousins wifes fathers uncles next door neighbours second best friend heard off a lad that her brother kind of knows through a mutual acquaintance that things are absolutely flying in the camp! Not sure if I believe it though.. Think I'l wait and see what happens come June 17th!

On a more serious note though, there are 11 players injured at the moment and add to that the blow of losing Shane O'Sullivan to travels as well as a bit of will he stay, won't he stay with Stevie. Of course there are going to be difficulties. This is a panel trying to get their stuff together to beat a Clare team who will be absolutely gunning for them. I'd love to know exactly what he means by "things aren't well at all in training and that". Or, actually, no I wouldn't. Let what goes on in training stay in training and let them get on with their preparations. God knows the lads have already had more than their fair share of crap from the various media outlets trying to make a big deal out of very minor stories earlier in the year.

I didn't intend to insult anybody concerning football v hurling, I was amassed with less than a week to go there was very little debate about the game on Sunday. At least this got the ball rolling, a win on Sunday would really brighten up the seen in football who knows. What Offaly achieved in the 80s should be an inspiration for any small county that play both codes seriously. At club level we have some serious talent in football I taught a few years back that we would make a major breakthrough but it has proven a lot harder to achieve. Anyway best of luck to the senior and junior teams for Sunday.

hardybuck wrote: »

I see that Tipperary had another good minor football win against Cork last night en route to the Munster final. They play Kerry, who they've already beaten convincingly in the competition.

Mickey Ned O'Sullivan, who is managing Kerry this year, claimed that Kerry were 'years' behind the likes of Tipp in terms of strength and conditioning.

Waterford were always about the same standard as Tipp at both underage and senior. Now Tipp are streets ahead in underage and are starting to pull away at senior level.

Now, we've had this argument before - people who are interested in both codes will agree for a more balanced approach to our games in Waterford, and the hurling people will say that we should concentrate in hurling only as we're too small for both sports.

Tipp does have a larger population than Waterford - about 45,000 larger. However, Tipp has 361,000 fewer people than Cork, yet they are now consistently beating them at hurling and football at all levels.

I'm a believer in doing things right, and I see no reason why both hurlers and footballers both can't be approached in professional fashion.

Well done to Tip agree with everything that has been said here.
Tom Kelly your a scream keep up the good work.

Deise Doodler wrote: »

Who was the last waterford Club to win a senior Munster club title ?

De La Salle.

I just read a preview on rte.ie one the game this weekend. One of the guys they singled out who might do damage for Waterford doesn't even play for the county. He plays for London. Some insult to both teams.

premierstone wrote: »

Wasn't aware RTE had developed a time travelling machine, surely now that they have the ability to travel through time they should find something better to do than watch Limerick and Waterford playing football.

Lordy...its been a long day.

Mountainlad wrote: »

They'll be grand, as long as the alternative isn't to watch Tipp play football!

So Ferncombe is gone to London? I thought he was just injured.

Agree with ya Hardy, but having read some of their reviews of the hurlers over the years it's not just out of a lack of respect for the fixture. The people who compile the information for them have made so many mistakes that I've read solely from a Waterford perspective that I can only imagine they've made many errors with regards to other counties. It really is poor stuff.

Ah they've changed the article! They mentioned a chap called Lloyd Colfer who might be someone that John Owens might look towards for scores. He might have to look pretty hard as Lloyd will be sitting over in Clapham this weekend probably.

Whoever wrote the article must have just looked at the last game Waterford played, picked out one of the scorers and picked one of the London guys by accident.

tus.maith wrote: »

Waterford Senior Football Team.

1. Kieran Cotter Geraldines
2. Maurice O’Gorman Nire
3. Thomas O’Gorman Nire
4. Kieran Connery Clashmore/Kinsalebeg
5. Wayne Hennessy Ardmore
6. Tony Grey Stradbally
7. Shane Briggs Ballinacourty
8. Shane Ahearne Stradbally
9. Sean O’Hare Ballinacourty
10. Patrick Hurney Ballinacourty
11. Paul Whyte Kilrossanty
12. Cillian O’Keeffe Clashmore/Kinsalebeg
13. Tommy Prendergast Kilrossanty
14. Sean Fleming Clashmore/Kinsalebeg
15. Mark Ferncombe Ballinacourty

Waterford Junior Football Team

1. Paul Houlihan St. Saviours
2. Justin Walsh Nire
3. Declan Prendergast Ardmore
4. Ger Dunphy Newtown
5. Adam O’Loughlan St. Molleran’s
6. Eddie Rockett (CAPTAIN) Stradbally
7. Richie Hennessy Ardmore
8. Michael O’Gorman Nire
9. Patrick Lynch Ballinacourty
10. Paul Power Portlaw
11. Ronan Cahill Rathgormack
12. David Power Kilrossanty
13. Edmond Hogan Rathgormack
14. Mitchell Casey De La Salle
15. John Coffey Stradbally


Strong enough senior team, surprised Ferncombe is fit to start.

Best of luck to both teams.

any idea of who was playin for wexford den lad

I see mount sion were beaten again by ballyduff upper in the league. I know its only the league but things musnt be alrite in the sion