Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

lovelypoint · 21-06-2012 12:35pm

deisedude wrote: »

You dont need a facebook account to access the page

Yes, I see that now. Oddly it did when I first clicked on it. Not sure what is going on..

DublinGAA96 · 21-06-2012 12:58pm

Anybody going to any of the opening round of games from the u16 championship next week? What teams are looking good this year?

hardybuck · 21-06-2012 4:11pm

Can't believe that there isn't a double header in Walsh Park this weekend. The Ballygunner v Passage and DLS v Roanmore games would have drawn a great crowd.

I think the Friday night game Ballygunner v Passage won't suit a lot of people, and then I expect DLS to beat Roanmore fairly handily so probably won't attract many neutrals.

Unless there is a very good reason that a double header cannot be played, this would appear to be a no-brainer.

egpower · 21-06-2012 4:44pm

hardybuck wrote: »

I would. If I was a senior player or member of management I'd be having a word with him over it. He had the option of feeding players in a better position but took the selfish option. It almost cost us in the end, we'd have been very angry if Clare had won by a point. Gavin O'Brien did something similar in the first half, inexperience.

I don't agree with Hardybuck's statement at all and I think he is being incredibly harsh on him. Tommy Ryan is a short a few things (bit of physicality and a bit of craft maybe) for inter county hurling, but two things he has in his locker are pace and finishing (goal v Galway last year and v Clare in the U21 MF 3 years ago).
I would have staked all my money (admittedly that's shag all...) on his finishing that shot to the roof of the net, but as another poster said he was expertly hooked. The point I am making is if you are Tommy Ryan and you come on - you are in there to do just that. It was worht a try. If it had been saved, we might have scored from the rebound. It's very easy be wise afterwards lads....

solarith · 21-06-2012 4:44pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Can't believe that there isn't a double header in Walsh Park this weekend. The Ballygunner v Passage and DLS v Roanmore games would have drawn a great crowd.

I think the Friday night game Ballygunner v Passage won't suit a lot of people, and then I expect DLS to beat Roanmore fairly handily so probably won't attract many neutrals.

Unless there is a very good reason that a double header cannot be played, this would appear to be a no-brainer.

Championship games involving Intercounty players playing the following weekend (footballers v Wicklow) are usually on Friday nights. JJ Hutchenson plays for Ballygunner.

egpower wrote: »

I don't agree with Hardybuck's statement at all and I think he is being incredibly harsh on him. Tommy Ryan is a short a few things (bit of physicality and a bit of craft maybe) for inter county hurling, but two things he has in his locker are pace and finishing (goal v Galway last year and v Clare in the U21 MF 3 years ago).
I would have staked all my money (admittedly that's shag all...) on his finishing that shot to the roof of the net, but as another poster said he was expertly hooked. The point I am making is if you are Tommy Ryan and you come on - you are in there to do just that. It was worht a try. If it had been saved, we might have scored from the rebound. It's very easy be wise afterwards lads....

You are so, so wrong. He should have known there was a man behind him and that he was too close to keeper. You (he) need(s) selflessness.

egpower · 21-06-2012 4:52pm

solarith wrote: »

Championship games involving Intercounty players playing the following weekend (footballers v Wicklow) are usually on Friday nights. JJ Hutchenson plays for Ballygunner.

You are so, so wrong. He should have known there was a man behind him and that he was too close to keeper. You (he) need(s) selflessness.

Hang on now a second. Just because you think you are right doesn't make me wrong. I have a view and so do you. Cue Davy style "I have 2 All Irelands....

")

hardybuck · 21-06-2012 4:53pm

egpower wrote: »

I don't agree with Hardybuck's statement at all and I think he is being incredibly harsh on him. Tommy Ryan is a short a few things (bit of physicality and a bit of craft maybe) for inter county hurling, but two things he has in his locker are pace and finishing (goal v Galway last year and v Clare in the U21 MF 3 years ago).
I would have staked all my money (admittedly that's shag all...) on his finishing that shot to the roof of the net, but as another poster said he was expertly hooked. The point I am making is if you are Tommy Ryan and you come on - you are in there to do just that. It was worht a try. If it had been saved, we might have scored from the rebound. It's very easy be wise afterwards lads....

"Expertly hooked"? He was hooked...I'd expect a defender on his back to do that. Ryan had at least one player who would have had a straightforward tap in if he had held on a split second longer and then passed. Same goes for Gavin O'Brien but it wasn't as blatant.

I've played and lost a couple of tight games in this scenario, each time it was one of the fairly unintelligent players on the team responsible. On each occasion they got a massive boot up the arse from the rest of the players in particular and they didn't make the mistake twice.

The two lads saw their name in the headlines and almost cost us a win. I'd rather not continue to make a big deal about it, but the "isn't it great that they had the confidence" attitude drives me mad.

solarith · 21-06-2012 4:55pm

egpower wrote: »

Hang on now a second. Just because you think you are right doesn't make me wrong. I have a view and so do you. Cue Davy style "I have 2 All Irelands.... ")

Point taken! It's my opinion that he was 100% wrong in not passing the ball. =D

zol 2 · 21-06-2012 5:13pm

hardybuck wrote: »

"Expertly hooked"? He was hooked...I'd expect a defender on his back to do that. Ryan had at least one player who would have had a straightforward tap in if he had held on a split second longer and then passed. Same goes for Gavin O'Brien but it wasn't as blatant.

I've played and lost a couple of tight games in this scenario, each time it was one of the fairly unintelligent players on the team responsible. On each occasion they got a massive boot up the arse from the rest of the players in particular and they didn't make the mistake twice.

The two lads saw their name in the headlines and almost cost us a win. I'd rather not continue to make a big deal about it, but the "isn't it great that they had the confidence" attitude drives me mad.

I think there is for and against on this to be fair to the two lads. Both could have passed but would you call it wrong decision making? A forwards instinct is to go for goal and in split seconds have to make up their mind on what they think is the right option.Lets say both players messed up the passes would we be on here slating them for not having the b##ls to go for it themselves?
Look at flynner in the 04 munster final and that goal from the free he scored,if that went wrong can you imagine what he'd have been called? You need players to have the confidence to try these things but i can see where people come from when these things don't work it looks awful

hardybuck · 21-06-2012 5:57pm

zol 2 wrote: »

I think there is for and against on this to be fair to the two lads. Both could have passed but would you call it wrong decision making? A forwards instinct is to go for goal and in split seconds have to make up their mind on what they think is the right option.Lets say both players messed up the passes would we be on here slating them for not having the b##ls to go for it themselves?
Look at flynner in the 04 munster final and that goal from the free he scored,if that went wrong can you imagine what he'd have been called? You need players to have the confidence to try these things but i can see where people come from when these things don't work it looks awful

No, if both players messed up passing the ball 5 yards either side of them I'd be calling for their heads, as both were routine passes.

Paul Flynn's goal is incomparible. However, he was not a dead cert free taker like Mahony is, and chipped in his fair share of frustrating wides. If we had someone with Mahony's accuracy from frees then we might have won one or two more titles.

deisebhoy17 · 21-06-2012 6:56pm

were still talking about the tommy ryan thing lads wev havent much to be worrying about if thats the case. People take wrong options all the time give him a break he made one mistake and tbf you cant fault a lad for having the confidence to try and kill the game off. Im sure he'll learn from it

On another note anyone know when Paudie Mahony is due back? Or even if hes due back,... u21 game v Clare next month hed be massive for that

hardybuck · 21-06-2012 7:10pm

solarith wrote: »

Championship games involving Intercounty players playing the following weekend (footballers v Wicklow) are usually on Friday nights. JJ Hutchenson plays for Ballygunner.

Just thinking about that, sure that can't be the reason stopping a double header. Abbeyside and FMW are playing a double header on the Saturday, and they'd have several players on the football panel between them.

KevIRL · 21-06-2012 7:18pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

On another note anyone know when Paudie Mahony is due back? Or even if hes due back,... u21 game v Clare next month hed be massive for that

Thought he was out for the season tbh.

hurler on de ditch · 21-06-2012 8:35pm

egpower wrote: »

I don't agree with Hardybuck's statement at all and I think he is being incredibly harsh on him. Tommy Ryan is a short a few things (bit of physicality and a bit of craft maybe) for inter county hurling, but two things he has in his locker are pace and finishing (goal v Galway last year and v Clare in the U21 MF 3 years ago).
I would have staked all my money (admittedly that's shag all...) on his finishing that shot to the roof of the net, but as another poster said he was expertly hooked. The point I am making is if you are Tommy Ryan and you come on - you are in there to do just that. It was worht a try. If it had been saved, we might have scored from the rebound. It's very easy be wise afterwards lads....

michael ryan winding up before he went on was nothing short of ridiculous .he should have said to him ,in you go you will get a chance think and do the right thing ,he might have noticed the 2 lads inside him then and the empty net ,hope michael ryan learns from this as well

calvin_zola · 21-06-2012 8:38pm

yea i think he is out for the season

With regards to tommy and gavin, hopefully they learn from it and become wiser from it

hurler on de ditch · 21-06-2012 8:38pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

were still talking about the tommy ryan thing lads wev havent much to be worrying about if thats the case. People take wrong options all the time give him a break he made one mistake and tbf you cant fault a lad for having the confidence to try and kill the game off. Im sure he'll learn from it

On another note anyone know when Paudie Mahony is due back? Or even if hes due back,... u21 game v Clare next month hed be massive for that

if he has not learned at his age ,he is running out of time

KDemp · 21-06-2012 8:39pm

Black Suir wrote: »

I gave up on them a long time ago. Have serious doubts about some that were involved on the committee (or at least were), and their alegiences to the G.A.A.

Hi,

I'm PRO for Club Déise and I'd like to respond to this comment.

We have been in existence since 2008 and in that time have raised over a hundred thousand euro, every cent of which has gone back to the county teams.
We have a very hard working committee who donate their time and money freely. We have zero tolerance on freebies and are independent of the County Board.
This year alone we funded the gym program for the senior hurlers and the Fota Island Resort intensive training weekend, which Ken McGrath in his post match interview on WLR thanked us for as he said it made all the difference. Neither of these projects would have happened for the senior hurlers without the funds from Club Déise.

We have also supported the Minors and U21s preparation and are the main sponsors for the Tony Forristal U14 All Ireland tournament.

We are finding it incredibly difficult to raise funds in the current economic climate and ill informed comments such as this are not helping matters.

Anne Ryan was mentioned in the thread of this discussion and she is a wonderful woman who has always had her heart in the right place, Anne and her brother Tommy McCarthy are very active members of our Committee.

We recently set up a facebook page for all like minded Waterford GAA fans that might like to get snippets of Team info and photographs - the link to the page is https://www.facebook.com/ClubDeiseTheWaterfordGaaSupportersClub
Please show your support by clicking 'Like' on the page.

Our goal is to help a Waterford team to win an All-Ireland and if you would like to help us do that, please join us.

We have reduced membership to €10 and every cent will go to the County teams.

Regards
Karen Dempsey
PRO Club Déise

glick6 · 21-06-2012 8:41pm

KevIRL wrote: »

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

On another note anyone know when Paudie Mahony is due back? Or even if hes due back,... u21 game v Clare next month hed be massive for that

Thought he was out for the season tbh.

Could possibly make it back for the u21 game, all going well. Then should be available for selection for the game that follows the Munster final for the seniors. That's obviously without any setbacks. His is the third hip repair operation the panel has had this year so I imagine they are pretty good at rehabbing them at this stage.

calvin_zola · 21-06-2012 8:44pm

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

if he has not learned at his age ,he is running out of time

I know, and i did say dat in an earlier post that this is tommys fourth season on the panel. But he is a good converter of the ball... So lets give him the benefit of the doubt this time

calvin_zola · 21-06-2012 8:47pm

KDemp wrote: »

Hi,

I'm PRO for Club Déise and I'd like to respond to this comment.

We have been in existence since 2008 and in that time have raised over a hundred thousand euro, every cent of which has gone back to the county teams.
We have a very hard working committee who donate their time and money freely. We have zero tolerance on freebies and are independent of the County Board.
This year alone we funded the gym program for the senior hurlers and the Fota Island Resort intensive training weekend, which Ken McGrath in his post match interview on WLR thanked us for as he said it made all the difference. Neither of these projects would have happened for the senior hurlers without the funds from Club Déise.

We have also supported the Minors and U21s preparation and are the main sponsors for the Tony Forristal U14 All Ireland tournament.

We are finding it incredibly difficult to raise funds in the current economic climate and ill informed comments such as this are not helping matters.

Anne Ryan was mentioned in the thread of this discussion and she is a wonderful woman who has always had her heart in the right place, Anne and her brother Tommy McCarthy are very active members of our Committee.

We recently set up a facebook page for all like minded Waterford GAA fans that might like to get snippets of Team info and photographs - the link to the page is https://www.facebook.com/ClubDeiseTheWaterfordGaaSupportersClub
Please show your support by clicking 'Like' on the page.

Our goal is to help a Waterford team to win an All-Ireland and if you would like to help us do that, please join us.

We have reduced membership to 10 and every cent will go to the County teams.

Regards
Karen Dempsey
PRO Club Déise

Fair play to ye : ) Hopefully we reap the benefits of ye're investment

hurler on de ditch · 21-06-2012 8:56pm

calvin_zola wrote: »

I know, and i did say dat in an earlier post that this is tommys fourth season on the panel. But he is a good converter of the ball... So lets give him the benefit of the doubt this time

ok so hope Gavin dose the same

calvin_zola · 21-06-2012 9:05pm

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

ok so hope Gavin dose the same

Yaeh gavin scored a great point after, nice to see a ruan mor man on the team
They put in some time with the youngsters up there

suitcasepink · 21-06-2012 10:29pm

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

were still talking about the tommy ryan thing lads wev havent much to be worrying about if thats the case. People take wrong options all the time give him a break he made one mistake and tbf you cant fault a lad for having the confidence to try and kill the game off. Im sure he'll learn from it

On another note anyone know when Paudie Mahony is due back? Or even if hes due back,... u21 game v Clare next month hed be massive for that

Originally I heard he was out for the season but heard it was said in some paper that he could be making a return very shortly.. For Ballygunner
I dont know if its just speculation though and even if he was to play a bit of the game against Passage tomorrow hes not going to be anyway fit Id imagine. So unless some miracle has happened in the last while hes probs out for a while yet..

Black Suir · 21-06-2012 10:56pm

hardybuck wrote: »

No, if both players messed up passing the ball 5 yards either side of them I'd be calling for their heads, as both were routine passes.

Paul Flynn's goal is incomparible. However, he was not a dead cert free taker like Mahony is, and chipped in his fair share of frustrating wides. If we had someone with Mahony's accuracy from frees then we might have won one or two more titles.

If you give Michael Ryan, Ken McGrath and Sean Cullinane an auld call on the phone, after kicking both out they might find a place for you in the sqaud. After all there will be two places up for grabs.

glick6 · 21-06-2012 10:57pm

deise_girl wrote: »

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

were still talking about the tommy ryan thing lads wev havent much to be worrying about if thats the case. People take wrong options all the time give him a break he made one mistake and tbf you cant fault a lad for having the confidence to try and kill the game off. Im sure he'll learn from it

On another note anyone know when Paudie Mahony is due back? Or even if hes due back,... u21 game v Clare next month hed be massive for that

Originally I heard he was out for the season but heard it was said in some paper that he could be making a return very shortly.. For Ballygunner
I dont know if its just speculation though and even if he was to play a bit of the game against Passage tomorrow hes not going to be anyway fit Id imagine. So unless some miracle has happened in the last while hes probs out for a while yet..

Not a hope he'l play any part tomorrow. That would be downright dangerous. He's six weeks post op. quickest he can be back on a pitch is ten.

Black Suir · 21-06-2012 11:00pm

solarith wrote: »

Championship games involving Intercounty players playing the following weekend (footballers v Wicklow) are usually on Friday nights. JJ Hutchenson plays for Ballygunner.

You are so, so wrong. He should have known there was a man behind him and that he was too close to keeper. You (he) need(s) selflessness.

How come Fourmilewater and Abbeyside are not playing so on Friday evening. The Nire and Ballinacourty will have players playing for Waterford next week.

deisebhoy17 · 21-06-2012 11:01pm

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

if he has not learned at his age ,he is running out of time

ah lads will ye just give it a rest bloody hell yere hard men

Black Suir · 21-06-2012 11:02pm

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

michael ryan winding up before he went on was nothing short of ridiculous .he should have said to him ,in you go you will get a chance think and do the right thing ,he might have noticed the 2 lads inside him then and the empty net ,hope michael ryan learns from this as well

In the same way that Davy gave nice calm easy going team talks is it.

suitcasepink · 21-06-2012 11:03pm

glick6 wrote: »

Not a hope he'l play any part tomorrow. That would be downright dangerous. He's six weeks post op. quickest he can be back on a pitch is ten.

Mhmmm and I hope not.. Think it was Phil Fanning that said it in the paper but Ill find out tomorrow where I got it from

solarith · 22-06-2012 12:09am

Black Suir wrote: »

How come Fourmilewater and Abbeyside are not playing so on Friday evening. The Nire and Ballinacourty will have players playing for Waterford next week.

Absolutely no idea - they must be on Saturday? As I said, it's what usually happens but not always.

Top drawer · 22-06-2012 12:25am

Is ken mcgrath gone on hols or did he stay for tonights game v tallow? Everybody in county has a different version

calvin_zola · 22-06-2012 12:38am

yea he defo went away on Holidays.. Why was he supposed to be playing a match?

liogairmhordain · 22-06-2012 12:41am

was anyone watching "championship matters" just now?
mullane on the panel, has been talking about celebrating in front of davy at the end of the game, claims davy said "mullane's finished" or something along those lines to the father of another one of the waterford players in the last week.
the whole thing is a bit petty. by all means use a bit of loose talk (real or invented) as motivation if its in short supply the week before a championship match (shouldn't be). but once the game is done, drop it.
anyway he's predicted dublin and tipp to win this weekend's two big hurling matches. malachy clerkin also predicted dublin to win, crazy talk.
its repeated at 12.20 am tomorrow night

calvin_zola · 22-06-2012 1:38am

liogairmhordain wrote: »

was anyone watching "championship matters" just now?
mullane on the panel, has been talking about celebrating in front of davy at the end of the game, claims davy said "mullane's finished" or something along those lines to the father of another one of the waterford players in the last week.
the whole thing is a bit petty. by all means use a bit of loose talk (real or invented) as motivation if its in short supply the week before a championship match (shouldn't be). but once the game is done, drop it.
anyway he's predicted dublin and tipp to win this weekend's two big hurling matches. malachy clerkin also predicted dublin to win, crazy talk.
its repeated at 12.20 am tomorrow night

Hon Mullane, f*cking Legend!

Deskjockey · 22-06-2012 2:03am

liogairmhordain wrote: »

was anyone watching "championship matters" just now?
mullane on the panel, has been talking about celebrating in front of davy at the end of the game, claims davy said "mullane's finished" or something along those lines to the father of another one of the waterford players in the last week.
the whole thing is a bit petty. by all means use a bit of loose talk (real or invented) as motivation if its in short supply the week before a championship match (shouldn't be). but once the game is done, drop it.
anyway he's predicted dublin and tipp to win this weekend's two big hurling matches. malachy clerkin also predicted dublin to win, crazy talk.
its repeated at 12.20 am tomorrow night

John's a legend but didn't think he came across that well. He didnt look that comfortable talking about it Saying "I don't want to get into it" but then immediately getting into it!!

Best to leave his hurling do the talking IMHO

Optimist eternal · 22-06-2012 8:51am

liogairmhordain wrote: »

was anyone watching "championship matters" just now?

Just saw it on RTE player. John didn't do himself any favours by going on that programme. He's better off sticking with what he does best.

Black Suir · 22-06-2012 11:02am

Top drawer wrote: »

Is ken mcgrath gone on hols or did he stay for tonights game v tallow? Everybody in county has a different version

I heard that Mount Sion and Ballygunner tried all in their power and even tried to get people who they thought might have a little influence to get this weekends round of games called off because of players away. Am glad the County Board did not bow to them and stood up for the average club player who is all to often thrown to one side this time of the year.

Deise Hurler · 22-06-2012 12:15pm

Glad to hear county board didnt call off the games if that story is true. On Paudie Mahony seen him in the gym I use a few times last week. Working hard he was and moving fairly freely. Wouldn't be suprised to see him back hurling fairly soon.

Mountainlad · 22-06-2012 12:53pm

Glick6 is right, no way Mahony will be back tomorrow. He should be back around the end of July/start of August because that would be about 3 months after the operation.

Calling this weeks games:

Reckon that Lismore, Dugarvan and Passage to beat Ballygunner (who I think are heading for a relegation playoff) in Group 1

In Group 2, Fourmilewater and De La Salle should win with a bit to spare. Also, I think Mount Sion should just about prevail over Tallow.

abbeysideFB4L · 22-06-2012 4:38pm

Harty Cup 2012/2013

Group A
DLS Waterford
Castletroy College
Ard Scoil Ris
Clonmel CBS
St Colmans
Kerry Colleges

Group B
Blackwater College
Our Ladys Templemore
West Limerick Colleges
Abbey CBS
Charleville CBS

Group C
Nenagh CBS
Midleton CBS
Colaiste Chriost Ri
Hamilton High School
Thurles CBS

Group D
Waterford Colleges
Doon CBS
Gael Cholaiste Mhuire
St Flannans
St Caimans

1st round of fixtures is september 19th

hurler on de ditch · 22-06-2012 6:45pm

Black Suir wrote: »

In the same way that Davy gave nice calm easy going team talks is it.

are you even of sound mind?its rich coming from me ,but you make fu#% all sense

suitcasepink · 22-06-2012 9:02pm

Now.. No Pauric playing but for how long is Brian O Sullivan here in Ireland and why isnt he on the Waterford panel?

soccymonster · 22-06-2012 9:41pm

liogairmhordain wrote: »

was anyone watching "championship matters" just now?
mullane on the panel, has been talking about celebrating in front of davy at the end of the game, claims davy said "mullane's finished" or something along those lines to the father of another one of the waterford players in the last week.
the whole thing is a bit petty. by all means use a bit of loose talk (real or invented) as motivation if its in short supply the week before a championship match (shouldn't be). but once the game is done, drop it.
anyway he's predicted dublin and tipp to win this weekend's two big hurling matches. malachy clerkin also predicted dublin to win, crazy talk.
its repeated at 12.20 am tomorrow night

Davy Fitz also did an interview on Clare FM today.
The interviewer told him what Mullane said on that show (as Davy said he didn't watch championship matters) and Davy Fitz just said that he never did any interviews prior to the match and to his knowledge never said anything about Mullane prior to the game either. Yet if players want to believe hearsay from others to use as motivation and rile them up for the match, then so be it. Or along those lines anyways.

He was also said to elaborate on the comments made to him before he said the whole "ive 2 all ireland medals" and answered back that the match was on Sunday. Leave it in the past and just move on. The interviewer attempted again to make him say what was said to him from whoever he directed the comment at to "clear his name" but he just wouldn't budge and didn't want to make a fuss over it.

Personally thought he came across very well in the interview myself and didn't badmouth anyone (altho taking into account I didn't catch it all but a good part of it).
If I find a podcast, I'll post it for anyone who wants to check it out.

AtomicKoala · 22-06-2012 10:57pm

Personally I think the standard of both teams has deteriorated massively in the past few years, just my opinion for what its worth.

To quote Davy; "Things were far better when I was allowed play".

Now Fitzy is quite a reputable guy, well deserving of a listening to. To randomly quote a random person with no affiliation to him:

soccymonster wrote: »

Personally thought he came across very well in the interview myself and didn't badmouth anyone (altho taking into account I didn't catch it all but a good part of it).

tus.maith · 22-06-2012 11:01pm

Ballygunner got their Championship campaign back on track with a hard earned two point victory in a competitive game against Passage in Walsh Park yesterday evening, on a full time score of BG1.16, Passage 2.11. Passage led by 8 at the break with Eoin Kelly netting their two goals, both from 21metre frees as Passage kept out a late Stephen Power penalty to see them 2.7 to 5 points ahead at the break. Ballygunner improved greatly on the resumption with a cruical goal from JJ Jutchinson on 46 mins bringing them back into contention. Stephen Power was very accurate from placed balls notching up 10 points and while Owen Connors had Passage in contention right until the end, two late points from David O Sullivan and Barry Mullane sealed the Ballygunner victory. Brian O' Sullivan, Shane O' Sullivan and Paudie Mahony all expected to be available for their final group game against Lismore.

Mount Sion claimed their first points of the 2012 campaign with 6 points to spare over Tallow in Fraher Field on a full time score of Mt Sion 2.15, Tallow 0.15 with the all important Mt Sion goals coming from Sean Ryan and Martin O Neill in the opening half.

Mountainlad · 22-06-2012 11:18pm

AtomicKoala wrote: »

Personally I think the standard of both teams has deteriorated massively in the past few years, just my opinion for what its worth.

To quote Davy; "Things were far better when I was allowed play".

Now Fitzy is quite a reputable guy, well deserving of a listening to. To randomly quote a random person with no affiliation to him:

What does he mean by that?

AtomicKoala · 22-06-2012 11:31pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

What does he mean by that?

Often, Davy says the most when he doesn't say anything at all. But in this case, its safe to assume that he feels that Waterford is on a downward spiral, similar to the one that led to the February Revolution.

Also, Waterford_Female wants to ask you something.

Mountainlad · 23-06-2012 1:58pm

I'd just like to assure anyone listening to 'on the ball' on WLR that the comment about the 'Ballymac lads' and the stuff said about the City was not me, somebody else using the alias 'Mountainlad'. In fact, it's made me a bit paranoid to be honest.

deisebhoy17 · 23-06-2012 7:04pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

I'd just like to assure anyone listening to 'on the ball' on WLR that the comment about the 'Ballymac lads' and the stuff said about the City was not me, somebody else using the alias 'Mountainlad'. In fact, it's made me a bit paranoid to be honest.

lol... looks like youve struck a chord with someone so if thats the case!

deisebhoy17 · 23-06-2012 7:48pm

liogairmhordain wrote: »

was anyone watching "championship matters" just now?
mullane on the panel, has been talking about celebrating in front of davy at the end of the game, claims davy said "mullane's finished" or something along those lines to the father of another one of the waterford players in the last week.
the whole thing is a bit petty. by all means use a bit of loose talk (real or invented) as motivation if its in short supply the week before a championship match (shouldn't be). but once the game is done, drop it.
anyway he's predicted dublin and tipp to win this weekend's two big hurling matches. malachy clerkin also predicted dublin to win, crazy talk.
its repeated at 12.20 am tomorrow night

Mullane has made a bit of a fool of himself with this whole saga. He had an opportunity on the programme to really put the issue to bed and admit that he reacted badly and that he regretted what he did. Its obvious he is embarrassed over it but just didnt want to admit it and maybe his ego took over. Hes been a great ambassador for hurling but he has let himself down on this occasion.
As for Kellys celebration after his goal it was pretty shameful thing do tbh and not a true reflection of what waterford hurling stands for. Whatever his reasons behind it he didnt to himself or his teamates any favours. Id like to see him do it against the likes of Kilkenny, but I dont think youll see that happening. its all well and good to goad in the face a rookie fullback from a county that hasnt done much in recent years. This player has gone hiding too many times in too many big games and im sick of trying to vouch for him. Id like to see him do his talking with the hurley like he used to be able to do in the past.

Im looking forward to the future for Waterford hurling I think there are some terrific young lads coming through that have been bred with the correct attitude. But there are a few pieces of deadwood still hanging around and clinging onto past reputations and the sooner that moves on and the next generation comes to the fore the better at this stage. Its time to change the mindset of Waterford hurling and rid ourselves of the nonsense that has been holding us back this past decade.

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