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O Shea's Ale and Stout, Aldi

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭54kroc


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Lidl soon to launch their own Irish craft beer range.

    Anymore info, who's making it etc?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Lidl soon to launch their own Irish craft beer range.

    Actually prefer shopping in Lidl. I find Aldi a bit chaotic. If they have a pale ale I'll be very happy. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    I think it depends on the individual stores. Two near me, one is chaotic but the other one is fairly relaxed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,759 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    drumswan wrote: »
    You might see a bit more on the shelves with the Budgets recent lifting of the craft tax break capacity cap. I believe Carlow were producing something close to the limit.

    I would have thought that O Hara's would have been well over the 20 000hl.
    Can anyone confirm / deny this.
    Beernut, calling Beernut......


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    In July this year Seamus O'Hara said he was expecting to finish 2014 on 17,000hL so would have to be careful as he has the capacity to go over it.

    20,000hL is a lot of beer, and far beyond what most Irish breweries are capable of. If you take 8 Degrees for instance: bottles everywhere, lots of taps, endless new specials, thriving export. They're one of the bigger guys and their LinkedFinance prospectus said their projection for 2014 is 4,000hL. I can't remember if the new brewkit is intended to double or triple that, but it'll still be well under the 20,000hL.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    O' Haras are selling in to the US though, right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Big Nasty wrote: »
    O' Haras are selling in to the US though, right?

    Yep, and Porterhouse too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,759 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Thanks Beernut.
    I wonder who lobbied for the increase.
    Looks like it won't really affect anyone, except maybe O Hara's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    54kroc wrote: »
    Anymore info, who's making it etc?

    I wish I could say! All will be revealed in the coming weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    BeerNut wrote: »
    If you take 8 Degrees for instance: bottles everywhere, lots of taps, endless new specials, thriving export.

    Doesn't necessarily mean loads of sales, as you have sort of alluded to. One micro has 15% of the craft market, but probably about 40% of the craft taps.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Thanks Beernut.
    I wonder who lobbied for the increase.
    Looks like it won't really affect anyone, except maybe O Hara's.

    Possibly also Porterhouse, and maybe in a 2 or 3 years Rye River, whose approach is very production oriented.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Possibly Fran Well? Or the lads in Clonmel making the lager?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,761 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Or the lads in Clonmel making the lager?

    C&C are way beyond the limit already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Possibly Fran Well?


    Owed by Molson Coors so I suspect they don't qualify under section 3b of the act "legally and economically independent (within the meaning of Section 78A of the Finance Act 2003) of any other brewer"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    I thought they were legally indie still - Fran Well I mean, and did C&C not do some trickery to make that lager brewery the same?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    I guess Five Lamps dont fall under the exemption then either?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    You don't have to be under the Revenue's limit to put "craft beer" on the label.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    drumswan wrote: »
    I guess Five Lamps dont fall under the exemption then either?

    Their 90%+ owned by C&C so i would guess not


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,851 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    drumswan wrote: »
    You might see a bit more on the shelves with the Budgets recent lifting of the craft tax break capacity cap. I believe Carlow were producing something close to the limit.

    What's the new limit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    What's the new limit?

    30khL


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,759 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    30khL

    Have you just invented the kilohectolitre??


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Have you just invented the kilohectolitre??

    30k (30,000) hl

    or 30,000 x 100 litres

    or 3,000,000 litres


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Lucena


    30khL

    a year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    yes, a year


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,759 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    30k (30,000) hl

    or 30,000 x 100 litres

    or 3,000,000 litres

    Yes, I did understand it.
    Still a new compound unit to me, though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    3,000,000 litres is a lot of beer but only 50% beer can be for contract/BUL/ franchise etc to avail of the rebate


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    Mod what the hell is going on here, are you asleep at the wheel :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    OK I guess it's up to me the drag this thread back on topic, has anyone tried the new Golden Ale from O'Shea's yet. How did it taste haven't had a chance to try it myself yet


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Mod what the hell is going on here, are you asleep at the wheel :rolleyes:

    If you've got a problem with the way thread is being moderated, you have a choice to either (a) report it, or (b) send a PM to a mod.

    Ironically enough, what you have done yourself is further drag the thread off topic. You are also backseat modding which is frowned upon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    OK I guess it's up to me the drag this thread back on topic, has anyone tried the new Golden Ale from O'Shea's yet. How did it taste haven't had a chance to try it myself yet

    See my post earlier in thread for my impressions
    Seems they have a new Golden Ale. Not very nice, quite bland and a lingering astringent bitterness.


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